Official Viewsonic set the record straight about "Gtablet Support" or did they?
Was led to a video on youtube caught on ces 2011.
By the sound of the representive there, it seems as viewsonic will no longer support the Gtablet, but there own viewpad 10s tablet which they will sell and support. And as meantioned in the video the Gtablet will be supported and sold by US merchant.
Just thought I give an insight. So please feel free to disscussed further on this topic.
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This was posted on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UobzkW6iV28
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Viewsonic answers and sets the record straight!
Posted by officialviewsonic:
See what happens when I go to CES?!
Glad there's so much discussion about the G-Tablet. Let me try to help resolve some of the confusion...
We now have 4 full-sized tablets we've introduced.
G-Tablet you all know
ViewPad 7 - 7 inch Qualcom Processor running Froyo. 3G and voice ready (integrated SIM)
ViewPad 10 - 10 inch Dual Boot Win 7 / Android 1.6 (soon to be higher)
ViewPad 10S - Tegra II -based Froyo device
First, let me make one thing clear: ALL PRODUCTS HAVE FULL SUPPORT. The G-Tablet has a different support line mainly due to its more retail/end-user distribution. That line is managed by USMerchants, hence our sales rep's comments.
The G-Tablet is not going away. We have an OTA upgrade scheduled for later this week, and are looking at different OS loads on it (hint hint).
Google does not support Google Mobile Services or the Android App Store on any 10" tablet running Froyo. Adobe does not support Flash on any 10" Tegra II Tablet running Froyo.
While we originally were launching the 10S only in Europe and Russia, we are now considering bringing it to the Americas as well.
We have many more Tablets in different configurations and sizes in the works, so you'll continue to see great things from us.
Thank you all for your continued interest and support for our products. I'll keep you updated!
And while Viewsonic will only support the 10s it still will not have the marketplace installed....smh...hrmmmmmm
The device has always been purchased through US Merchants and supported through both entities (when all is said and done). Viewsonic mainly had a hands-off approach to the G all along. This marketing lady sums up what is going on. The G was a stepping stone for them and just to get a place in the market (with less than good results).
Not seeing how much has changed, but since this device has Viewsonic's name on it, they will have to support it. Too much bad press on top of the already bad press would be too much rick for them. Seems only difference is an HDMI port and probably higher price.
dezufnoC said:
And while Viewsonic will only support the 10s it still will not have the marketplace installed....smh...hrmmmmmm
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Yes and no meantion of flash. Since they stated on their site that it would be by late jan. Will pending certification from adobe that is.
Interesting. Looks identical device.
Your correct they do have that big logo on the rear of our Gtablets. lol So lets see what happens... hopefully they will honor the support and not push us to US merchant.
Yes the price could be higher only b/cus the rep laughed hoping it could be the same price as the Gtablet lol. Also no Tap n tap.
rushless said:
The device has always been purchased through US Merchants and supported through both entities (when all is said and done). Viewsonic mainly had a hands-off approach to the G all along. This marketing lady sums up what is going on. The G was a stepping stone for them and just to get a place in the market (with less than good results).
Not seeing how much has changed, but since this device has Viewsonic's name on it, they will have to support it. Too much bad press on top of the already bad press would be too much rick for them. Seems only difference is an HDMI port and probably higher price.
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sam96_77 said:
Interesting. Looks identical device.
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These are the specs they are showing us as of late:
Android 2.2 OS
10.1" Capacitive multi-touch
1024x600 Resolution
1GHz, 512MB ROM
512MB RAM
Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n
Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR (Optional 3G)
Webcam 1.3MP
G-sensor
USB, Micro SD (32GB Max), HDMI, headphone
XDA support
The G tablet will be sold by US Merchants, but the true support comes from XDA and the team of Devs who make this device what it is! This makes me think Gingerbread and Honeycomb will only be brought to the G tab if XDA makes it happen....
So true. I don't really think about Viewsonic anymore when I am using my gTablet. Like others have said, if the dev community here at xda had not stepped up to make these fantastic roms for this tablet I would have returned it to the store long ago.
Any piece of electronics I purchase I buy fully knowing that it will become outdated very quickly. So I will enjoy my gTablet for as long as the guys here at xda cook things up for it. When these guys move onto other great tablets I may purchase one of those at that time.
But until then, I have a great tablet running a great custom rom and I will continue to get great use out of it everyday.
Couldn't agree more.... Roebeet, Gojimi, Rothnic and all the others who have contributed here on XDA made the tablet fast and stable. I say as long as we have them. Im ok with that. I'll just theme them up lol.
This may seem like a dumb question, but do any of these guys have donate paypal accounts or something of that nature? They do all this work on these roms, with many people like myself reaping the benefits without really contributing. I would like to give something back other than my feedback when something works or doesnt work.
That being said, I do not regret my purchase of this device and I did it knowing that xda devs were on it. If viewsonic is smart, they would employ the devs here and keep this piece alive. It really is a good, solid device with good hardware.
Sent from my GTablet-TnT-Lite using Tapatalk
If the support issue turns out this way, it will be the second time I got screwed up by Viewsonic Support. And it will definitely be the last time.
What sort of support from Viewsonic have any of you been accustom to or dependent on for the g-tab?
Your support is right here on XDA.
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This may seem like a dumb question, but do any of these guys have donate paypal accounts or something of that nature? They do all this work on these roms, with many people like myself reaping the benefits without really contributing. I would like to give something back other than my feedback when something works or doesnt work.
That being said, I do not regret my purchase of this device and I did it knowing that xda devs were on it. If viewsonic is smart, they would employ the devs here and keep this piece alive. It really is a good, solid device with good hardware.
Sent from my GTablet-TnT-Lite using Tapatalk
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If an developer accepts donation you can see the "Donate to me" button which can be seen in any of their postings above the Avatar (left hand side).
If it was not for Devs here mine would be back in store. In fact if I wanna know if the g-tablet will get updated to honeycomb I don't ask viewsonic rather I tweet bekit, reobeet and company. I have more faith on the guys here at xda then any other company that includes galaxy s carriers and manufacturers.
You guys rock
Agreement
As a newbie to Android I look at the xda site here everyday, sometimes twice just to see what amazing stuff these guys come up with for the gtablet......from a newbie to the guys developing stuff for the trablet that I love......thanks
IMHO... viewsonic adding the xda link to their site was the best think they've done as for the gtablet. Especially for those unaware that we have a dev team enhancing our tablets to a point where we can say wow.
I can't express enough how excited I am about how the devs modified our tablets to work as it should of out of the box.
I for one and I know many will agree that we are NOW happy with our gtablets.
Thanks dev team!
Viewsonic are probably quietly hoping that the devs will fix their 10s when that comes out too!
I'm not too worried about it. All we need is a dump of whatever firmware they end up with on the 10s, and it might be fairly easy to port over. One good thing about the Tegra is APX mode - allows us to take more risks.
Gojimi is working on his Gingerbread rig, Bekit on dealing with cm7, Pershoot and the kernel devs are amazing us with their customized kernels and Rothnic is popping out updates to his mods all the time. Things are alive and well, here.
Heck, we might have an Eve port one day. :O
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IMHO... viewsonic adding the xda link to their site was the best think they've done as for the gtablet. Especially for those unaware that we have a dev team enhancing our tablets to a point where we can say wow.
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On the other hand they will not hesitate to void the warranty of any tablet that has XDA stuff on it.
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+10 char. Barnes and nobles.
http://images.barnesandnoble.com/PResources/download/Nook/source-code/nookcolor-source-code.zip
u forgot link http://images.barnesandnoble.com/PResources/download/Nook/source-code/nookcolor-source-code.zip
that was fast
This is awesome.
Looks like B&N understand that they have something much bigger than an ereader.
I, for one, had not been interested in this device until I saw the posts here about it being rooted and being able to install other programs on it. I went out and bought it last night and will hold on to it until an easier root method is published.
Well of course they understand But since at $250 they're probably not making much, if any profit off the machine, they need to sell content and they have two options:
1) Close the machine off Amazon style and force people to buy content from you, or
2) Open the platform, hope more people buy your device and hope that translates into content sales (book, magazines, etc...) where the money is.
Seems like they're blending #1 and #2 but with a bit more #2... Pretty good for us.
Hopefully, the cooked ROMs will allow to access the stock B&N reading program as well. It's a bit slow at times but it's a pretty good reader with strong book management capabilities (shelves) and the magazines are pretty good too.
Don't mean to sound dumb, but what exactly is this a link for?
Hopefully the link is to the source code used to compile the Android OS on the Nook Color.
Maybe I will even finally compile me some Android.
At the very least it would seem that combining parts of this with AOSP 2.2 might yield one / several usable froyo kernels for the NC. Easy to say, definitely more complicated to actually do.
Ypocaramel said:
Well of course they understand But since at $250 they're probably not making much, if any profit off the machine, they need to sell content and they have two options:
1) Close the machine off Amazon style and force people to buy content from you, or
2) Open the platform, hope more people buy your device and hope that translates into content sales (book, magazines, etc...) where the money is.
Seems like they're blending #1 and #2 but with a bit more #2... Pretty good for us.
Hopefully, the cooked ROMs will allow to access the stock B&N reading program as well. It's a bit slow at times but it's a pretty good reader with strong book management capabilities (shelves) and the magazines are pretty good too.
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I like the device so much, alll I do is talk about how good it is and how it compares for the money.
I highly recommend it to everyone looking for a reader, that's capable of much more.
I'm surprised how many people are interested
I bought one yesterday and already have it rooted. Additionally, I have ADW Launcher, all of my favorite apps/games, DroidX keyboard, etc. I agree that this is easily one of the best values in the tablet segment. I'm really eager to see Android 2.2/2.3 though.
I got my Nook last week and use it quite a bit. I too agree it is the best tablet around, especially when you consider the price point. I'm using it now even with tapatalk. Most of my friends are probably tired if hearing me extol its virtues. Once Froyo or Gingerbread hits, along with bluetooth (if possible) this thing will be even more awesome.
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Got one for my wife last week, rooted it right away and we both think it's great. It's the only tablet in the house and I'm using it more than she and considering buying another NC just for myself.
Perhaps I should just be patient with Honeycomb (supposedly) coming out early 2011, along with new devices designed specifically for a more tablet friendly OS. Does anyone question whether NC will be able to run Honeycomb?
kaiser_va said:
Got one for my wife last week, rooted it right away and we both think it's great. It's the only tablet in the house and I'm using it more than she and considering buying another NC just for myself.
Perhaps I should just be patient with Honeycomb (supposedly) coming out early 2011, along with new devices designed specifically for a more tablet friendly OS. Does anyone question whether NC will be able to run Honeycomb?
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The answer to honeycomb relies on two things (the way i see it):
1) We must be able to boot custom roms. From what i gather, alot of progress is being made there already, so i doubt that will be too much of an issue. If we can get a recovery option, and be able to do nandroid backups, it would be even safer.
2) The hardware must meet HC's specs. This is the real question mark - what kind of hardware will HC actually need? As it is, our tablets really aren't lacking in the hardware department, and a custom overclocked/undervolted kernel should really help (speed boost to 1.0-1.2). As it is, our A8 CPU and SGX530 GPU are no slouch (though yes, our GPU is weaker than top end gear), and the 512MB ram should really help performance. Again, it comes down to what custom kernels and roms can be cooked up for our hardware..
B&N Clerk Talked About Hacking It
jtreminio said:
Looks like B&N understand that they have something much bigger than an ereader.
I, for one, had not been interested in this device until I saw the posts here about it being rooted and being able to install other programs on it. I went out and bought it last night and will hold on to it until an easier root method is published.
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Hi,
I got one yesterday. Can’t open it until Christmas, since it’s my present from my wife. Anyway, when I bought it the clerk was talking about training. I told ther that the person that was getting it was very tech savvy. She said “They will get it home and hack it in about an hour. You know it can be hacked into a full tablet computer.”
This was from the cashier.
Best sub 300 tablet in the market right now
Its basically a 7 inch droid x
Hope we get aosp rom soon
Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk
what are the specks on the nook?
easy9 said:
what are the specks on the nook?
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Check the specs on the wiki page: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Nook_Color
Smooth...
I have been watching this ColorNook development since they announced it coming to market.
Bought one 5 days ago after autonook was finished. For $250 it beats the market tablets hands down. Tethered it wirelessly to my Droid and I was in business.
Glad I made the leap. Rotting took less than an hour. Great job guys.
Thanks
The nook color is an awesome little device! I chose it over the galaxy tab, (it was way too expensive, & i didn't want another two year contract with sprint). It's crazy how much people on craigslist are charging for a tab, they get up to $600!, no thank you, i'm happy with my autonootered/rooted nook, & it didn't cost me an arm and a leg I recommend you guys pick one up, it's only gonna' get better.
Of course I'm speaking with the processor and what.
Basically I have this idea of buying a lower priced tablet from China and then root it. Now I'm not just look for a 10", a 8" would be even perfect but I'm just saying
Do you guys think this would go over? Only problem is I'd have to find a tablet that has decent amount support and work on it.
Lend me your thoughts as I've thought about this today while fooling with the GTab at Sears.
jerichoholic said:
Of course I'm speaking with the processor and what.
Basically I have this idea of buying a lower priced tablet from China and then root it. Now I'm not just look for a 10", a 8" would be even perfect but I'm just saying
Do you guys think this would go over? Only problem is I'd have to find a tablet that has decent amount support and work on it.
Lend me your thoughts as I've thought about this today while fooling with the GTab at Sears.
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At the moment, anything that's cheaper than the GTab is not comparable in terms of hardware specs. The Notion Ink Adam is the one exception, but availability is a significant issue, as is (potentially) build quality.
The general consensus on most of the sub $250 tablets from China, from almost every review site, is "You shouldn't buy this tablet at any price point."
The main issues you need to look for are a) capacitive touch screen rather than resistive, b) reasonable battery life, and c) any hint that someone has brought the OS up to a more current version. Many of the Chinese tablets a) ship with a resistive touch screen, b) have battery life on the order of 3 hours, and c) are still running 2.1, with absolutely no modding community - not to mention they're all running much slower processors in general.
All of that being said, there are about 2 million tablets that are going to be released in the next couple of months that will feature similar hardware, and I'm sure some of them will be at the GTab price point, or possibly below. If you're unsure, my advice would be to be patient.
Thank you for the thoughtful reply. I figure I'd rather go with a name brand I'm familar with and that has a big support group for modding.
I'm torn between this and NookColor but the success rate of root and rate of not failing is on the side of NC compared to the GTab.
Also I hear Spring will be a time for a bunch of new tabs to drop, besides the Xoom what are others?
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I'm torn between this and NookColor but the success rate of root and rate of not failing is on the side of NC compared to the GTab.
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Really? I wasn't aware that is was possible to fail to successfully root the G-tab. The instructions are so simple.
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Thank you for the thoughtful reply. I figure I'd rather go with a name brand I'm familar with and that has a big support group for modding.
I'm torn between this and NookColor but the success rate of root and rate of not failing is on the side of NC compared to the GTab.
Also I hear Spring will be a time for a bunch of new tabs to drop, besides the Xoom what are others?
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Rooting is easy on the nook color and gtablet but installing custom roms...the gtablet is way easier. IMO, the roms available for the nook color are not as stable as the ones available for the gtablet. The nook color is still a work in progress when it comes to loading a stable 2.2.
I have both devices and I'm stuck on 2.1 on the nook because the 2.2 roms seem to be hit and miss. With the gtablet, I'm waiting on a stable 2.3 rom but I'm not in a rush because I'm happy with the rom I have now on the gtablet.
The G-Tablet is a pretty unique product right now, but as others have said above that will all change very soon. Tegra 2 tablets will really hit the matket hard this year, so if you have any reservations I'd say wait and see what is available in the next 6 months.
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Really? I wasn't aware that is was possible to fail to successfully root the G-tab. The instructions are so simple.
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When I say failing I mean after root, the problems you run into regarding FC's, certain apps not working or opening at all. Certain coding failures I see riddled in the Dev forum. Of course Im still looking but it just seem a lot of people had problems with certain things not working or getting unsual errors.
I know you run into this will any root but it just seems a bit more than I'm use to.
EDIT: XMR has given a bit more substance to my arguement since he owns both. I do see a lot of people having problems with the newest Dec. rom on the Nook.
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Thank you for the thoughtful reply. I figure I'd rather go with a name brand I'm familar with and that has a big support group for modding.
I'm torn between this and NookColor but the success rate of root and rate of not failing is on the side of NC compared to the GTab.
Also I hear Spring will be a time for a bunch of new tabs to drop, besides the Xoom what are others?
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Toshiba and Asus both have tablets coming out, as does almost every other manufacturer. Search for CES coverage and you'll see no shortage of info on them.
jwischka said:
Toshiba and Asus both have tablets coming out, as does almost every other manufacturer. Search for CES coverage and you'll see no shortage of info on them.
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This post was in Jun, At this point I have had 2 gtabs, the second has had hardware problems since I got it. I am sending back to woot for a refund.
Any updates on simular tablets that are compareable?
Thank you Jaye
knowing what we know now, should i buy
g-tablet for $350 now or xoom (wifi only) for $550 in a month or wait for LG optimus tab (t-mobile g slate)?
its clear all of these have tegra 2 and all have or will have honeycomb soon. I do want DLNA and hdmi, but its not necessary. I really just want a solid tab to game, watch movies on, and do basic word processing.
sundar2012 said:
knowing what we know now, should i buy
g-tablet for $350 now or xoom (wifi only) for $550 in a month or wait for LG optimus tab (t-mobile g slate)?
its clear all of these have tegra 2 and all have or will have honeycomb soon. I do want DLNA and hdmi, but its not necessary. I really just want a solid tab to game, watch movies on, and do basic word processing.
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I was going to wait for the G Slate but I got antsy and decided on the GTAB because it seemed to be solid as far as hardware goes. I gave up GPS, 3G (because I can wi-fi tether to my N1), a decent viewing angle, and HDMI Out (until a PDMI to HDMI cable cord comes out) without having to use a dock.
But all in all I'm happy with the GTAB because of its great versatility and the fantastic support that already was available before I bought it (not from Viewsonic but here @ the XDA-Dev-Nation).
sundar2012 said:
knowing what we know now, should i buy
g-tablet for $350 now or xoom (wifi only) for $550 in a month or wait for LG optimus tab (t-mobile g slate)?
its clear all of these have tegra 2 and all have or will have honeycomb soon. I do want DLNA and hdmi, but its not necessary. I really just want a solid tab to game, watch movies on, and do basic word processing.
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i have both devices (g tablet is my sister's actually but i just flashed tnt lite on it last night). for the price and value, i would suggest you wait until motorola releases the wi-fi version of the xoom or wait until samsung, sony, and toshiba release their respective tablets.
honeycomb, even on the xoom still feels like a beta. i actually get a couple of force closes and "ghost scrolling" here and there. it's not completely stable. also keep in mind, flash doesn't work yet for for honeycomb (they are waiting for adobe 10.2 mobile release) and we are still awaiting for some software support for the sd card slot. lastly, the 4G/LTE compatibility is not included in this device. we have to send our xooms back to motorola for such upgrades. perhaps the later xoom models will come equipped with LTE compatibility.
so, be patient. but if you have the extra cash to fhrow around, a g-tablet would be a good choice to hold you down until the other tablets come out.
I have been using my Gtab since end of November 2010. While I do like what it can do, there are still a lot of things that i am not very happy with. I am not sold on froyo/gingergread due to being built for a phone technically, but for the price you can't beat it. I am with others on here when i say wait. Because even the xoom is the first honeycomb tablet, and things will get better. That being said, you cant wait forever, since technology moves so damn fast!
The devs show the gtab TONS of love, so i am very hopeful of what is to come for it!
GTab has some quirky things but it is solid if only for the full usb port .. makes it actually cool/simple to swap apps with my Dell Streak and multiple PC's
so is the consensus then to wait, even if the gTablet can be had for under $290?
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so is the consensus then to wait, even if the gTablet can be had for under $290?
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It's an extra $300 for a better screen and no developer support if you want the wifi Xoom. You may want to consider the Asus Transformer, scheduled for release April 26th in the states for $399 (16gb version). It has some nice options like the IPS display, hdmi out and optional keyboard with built in battery, but again, no developer support. The developer support could be strong though for the Asus as it hits a nice price point. I'm happy with my recent
purchase of the gtab for $250 even after finding out about the Asus coming out. All the thanks goes to the xda developers.
My gtab cost less than half that of my Nexus S and it is far more stable.
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so is the consensus then to wait, even if the gTablet can be had for under $290?
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Not sure why would any one wait when if it can be had for $280 shipped, and when people are selling theirs on here for $250 (including a case and keyboard).
When do you expect another tegra2 tablet (which is stable over-clockable to 1.4Ghz) to be sold anywhere near $300 ? If you can live with the TN screen you can't go wrong with the Gtab, unless you are willing to wait for at least 6 more months.
All the hype about the transformer is basically because its $399 tegra2 with an IPS screen.
All the hate for non-tablet based Andriod OS has nothing to do with the gtab its for the tablet market in general.
I would still say this is as good (if not better) than any other tablet being released in the near future (in cost per feature ratio).
If you can wait, then by all means do so, GTab might drop even further, transformer might drop another $50, better options will be available, but as pointed earlier can't this argument be had on any other product out there ?!
wait???
I have2 g-tabs because Ilike to experiment. The price is so good and the support and options so varied here at xda ... why wait? There is alway a next best thing just over the horizon but at some point you have to jump in the water. I submit that the g-tab pool is very nice. Jump in!
The Support...
I, too, have been using my gTab since it first came out. And through all the initial heartaches with the software, I am still lovin' my gTab.
The big things for me are :
1. The support it has that the newer tablets will not have. At least at the start, and even later on, if the manufacturer does not truly throw themselves behind their product. For better or worse, Viewsonic is still there with updates, however few and far between. And with the Tech support of sites like this one, you can truly do just about anything you want with it. Alas, it still will not make me my cup of Joe.
2. You don't have to be too tech savvy to experiment. You do have to read up a bit. And be sure you follow the directions. Take precautions, etc. But believe me, there are lots of threads in lots of forums to help the noobs out there.
So, sooner or later, there will be newer, shinier, faster models. But I still stand by the gTab.
I have had my Gtab for about 2 months and it has been a great tool, even more so with VeganGinger RC1 now available. I had read of too many shortcomings of the Xoom for me to hold out for it, many of which still haven't been fixed. My personal feelings are: the Gtab is worth it, for now. In a year or so when the bugs are worked out of the upcoming models then it will be worth it to switch.
i can tell the world of our gtablet is closely falling apart.. :| because of Lack of updates from viewsonic and nvdia(hardware acceleration)..
HONEYCOMB is raging in the market already.. why not in Gtab?
our great developers are moving forward.. and are gtab is becoming history already..
cotangent05 said:
i can tell the world of our gtablet is closely falling apart.. :| because of Lack of updates from viewsonic and nvdia(hardware acceleration)..
HONEYCOMB is raging in the market already.. why not in Gtab?
our great developers are moving forward.. and are gtab is becoming history already..
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Hey there,
Have some confidence. It was a big battle between the community and nvidia to support the older tegra 2 procs and we won on that. Now the only thing that we are waiting on is google to release the AOSP for Honeycomb to 3rd party this way Viewsonic can get their devs working on a stable OS for our tablets. This all takes time and it will come thru.
cotangent05 said:
i can tell the world of our gtablet is closely falling apart.. :| because of Lack of updates from viewsonic and nvdia(hardware acceleration)..
HONEYCOMB is raging in the market already.. why not in Gtab?
our great developers are moving forward.. and are gtab is becoming history already..
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This isn't even remotely surprising, is it? The bridge android tablet devices that predate the official Google release of a tablet-based version of Android (ie, Honeycomb) were orphans from the start. Just enjoy it for what it is, or sell it and move on to the next big thing. It's likely that gingerbread (already happening), and honeycomb (if that source ever gets released) will be unofficially supported in time.
If your Gtab does what you want it to, why not enjoy it? If it doesn't, then happily move away from it.
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If your Gtab does what you want it to, why not enjoy it? If it doesn't, then happily move away from it.
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Exactly. The tablet market is moving fast, and in a few months everything currently on the market is going to be obsolete. If the gTab works well now -- and mine definitely does -- replacing it immediately just out of spite to ViewSonic doesn't seem to make much sense.
I'll wait till the next generation of processing hardware comes out ... by then, Honeycomb might actually be ready for prime time.
a user from this forum asked viewsonic about this..
FROM CD112:
"can you please let us know when we will start to see the release of Gingerbread 2.3 more stable version with the correct nvidia drivers. Nvidia is willing to work with viewsonic to get a stable and decent working rom for the gtablet. I know this seems odd but there has been about 4 tablets released after viewsonic gtablet that are currently runing Android honeycomb 3.0 and the Gtab is still running froyo 2.2. It is time for a upgrade guys. Please.
Also can you please release the source code for 1.2 to the devs this way we can get better roms built in the 1.2 boot-loader.
This is the answer that i got back.
1. When will we start to see the release of Gingerbread 2.3 more stable version with the correct nvidia drivers?
Answer: The gTablet is based upon nVidia's Harmony platform. Unfortunately, nVidia has chosen not to provide driver support on Harmony for either Gingerbread or Honeycomb.
2. Approximate release date of the source code for 1.2 to the devs this way we can get better roms built in the 1.2 boot-loader.
Answer: A release date is not yet scheduled."
and the viewsonic's answer.. damn viewsonic..! their killing us slowly..
cotangent05 said:
a user from this forum asked viewsonic about this..
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I think this post predates the whole nvidia debate.
All the talk about nvidia not supporting harmony was official refuted by nvidia themselves.
cotangent05 said:
i can tell the world of our gtablet is closely falling apart.. :| because of Lack of updates from viewsonic and nvdia(hardware acceleration)..
HONEYCOMB is raging in the market already.. why not in Gtab?
our great developers are moving forward.. and are gtab is becoming history already..
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What do you mean our developers are moving forward? If you mean buying other tablets, yes probably. Because most of the "devs" are tech freaks haha.
As far as I'm concerned, Viewsonic or Nvidia had nothing to do with the progress that our current devs have made with the Gtablet Roms. My faith is in them not Viewsonic or Nvidia.
Also, if you've seen the dev section there have been updates up the ying yang with the CM ROM, the kernels, Vegan and even Roebeets ROMS. Roebeet was the one that had the most concern with the lack of viewsonic support because his TNT ROM was based on Viewsonic's base rom. That's why I understood his frustration. However, as of late he has moved to the Vega build just like Gojimi with his Brilliant Corners ROM. So I think he will have more room to mod since he isn't as reliant on Viewsonic.
So yes, eventually the devs will move on but for now I do not see that they have abandoned the gtablet. All the early players are still updating their ROMs with the exception of Rothnic. I wonder how he's doing.
As for honeycomb, wait until google releases the AOSP. Do you think that the CM team, Gojimi, Roebeet, etc won't try to put honeycomb on the gtablet?!?! They won't be able to resist. They are devs and modders, it's in their DNA.
Hmmm yeah I've seen the new rom which is the brilliant corners, i personally thanking a lot to our dev ... And the gtablet being the most active here in xda and other forums... But we are lacking some love from the official company ,
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Gingerbread has been raging since December and there aren't many phones who've gotten updates yet until recent. There are still high end phones coming out with froyo. I don't see GB or HC coming to the VS anytime soon.
cotangent05 said:
Hmmm yeah I've seen the new rom which is the brilliant corners, i personally thanking a lot to our dev ... And the gtablet being the most active here in xda and other forums... But we are lacking some love from the official company ,
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I've learned since buying an Android device that relying on the manufacturer to bring updates is stressing. So I will not buy a product unless it is capable of being rooted. I'm just glad the gtab received official support from the CM team. They figure out some crazy stuff over there at a faster rate than the actual manufacturers. And not too mention the XDA devs too!
japhule said:
Gingerbread has been raging since December and there aren't many phones who've gotten updates yet until recent. There are still high end phones coming out with froyo. I don't see GB or HC coming to the VS anytime soon.
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Your actually incorrect on that June/July we will have source codes for Harmony gingerbread drivers from there we can move forward to further advance our tablets. LG is working on a 2.3.4 release for the Optimus 2x harmony platform which Nvidia has to support and develop for.
Look it up and I posted links in the general section.
I've been lucky enough to snag a Viewpad 10e from Argos in the UK... Struggling to find any forums specifically for this pad though.
In a nutshell, its a great piece of hardware for £200 slightly let down by stuttery software. Very iPad like but with Android gingerbread.
Anyone else out there have any experience with this tab yet? Anyone know of any plans for it to get it's own forum/development community?
Cheers.
steviesteve78 said:
I've been lucky enough to snag a Viewpad 10e from Argos in the UK... Struggling to find any forums specifically for this pad though.
In a nutshell, its a great piece of hardware for £200 slightly let down by stuttery software. Very iPad like but with Android gingerbread.
Anyone else out there have any experience with this tab yet? Anyone know of any plans for it to get it's own forum/development community?
Cheers.
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Is it a tegra 2 device? If so we all here would at least love a full working gingerbread rom.
No - sorry - its Cortex A8
Processor 1Ghz Cortex A8 Processor
OS Android 2.3 (Gingerbread)
LCD Monitor 9.7” IPS LCD 1024 x 768 ; XGA
Brightness 400 cd/m2 Brightness
Memory DDR3 512 MB
Internal Memory 4GB
Band Wifi only
Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n
Bluetooth BlueTooth 3.0 and 2.1 + EDR compatibility
External Memory Micro SD card slot
I/O Interface Micro USB/ Mini-HDMI/ 3.5mm headset audio jack
Audio Stereo speakers/ microphone
Sensors G-sensor
Cameras Front: CMOS 1.3MP
Battery Li-Polymer 5400mAh
Charger 12V/ 2Amp
USB Micro USB
Dimensions 241.6 x 188.6 x 9.1 mm
Weight 620 grams
Accessories Power adaptor (with plugs), Quick Start Guide, 1Mobile Market QSG, Compliance information, Micro USB cable
Dude, return the tablet right now. Boycott viewsonic!
Its been over 24hrs with new toy now. Will be posting a review soon. I honestly like the look and feel so much that I'm selling my Galaxy Tab 10. I'll have some money left over as well cause the Viewpad is so cheaply priced. All that extra processor power is not needed for me, I basically use the tab for web browsing, a few notes, check the weather and the kids play angry birds! This pad is definitely suited to the job.
goodintentions said:
Dude, return the tablet right now. Boycott viewsonic!
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Ditto. For that price, you are better to go with a much wider support device like the Kindle Fire or Nook Color. Don't expect your new toy to get any substantial update to improve it beyond what it is now. The gTablet community has already been bitten by Viewsonic false promises. Your device will most likely had the same fate.
PS: a no name brand tablet from China can do all you want at an even lower price. Did you choose Viewsonic for the peace of mind of a name brand? Viewsonic don't make their own tablet. They outsource the manufacturing, the software and the support. All they really interest in is take your money.
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Honestly, I was really impressed by the response I had recently from their support dept. I really like the device and I have been through a few to say the least. Seems like it could be quite hackable and I may just use it to learn some new programming skills myself! (If I can drum up some support). In my experience, every forum/thread has loads of people frustrated by lack of support from the manufacturers/resllers but for me, the point of these forums is finding help... Ill keep my fingers crossed that the OEM is discovered soon and after that finding some hacks should get easier.
Third warning about Viewsonic, their products suffer longevity shortfalls. I am now the 3rd person telling you they have the consumer integrity of a wombat. Don't hold your breath waiting for anyone to pick it up and think it will be differently. So many people got burned via the g tablet and it's abhorrent lack of updates from the manufacturer (which when it comes to things like drivers etc for future OS upgrades becomes a critical part of the equation) not many people who have been around the android block are going to make another purchase from Viewsonic so you could very well be alone for the foreseeable future in this purchase. I don't even like having a Viewsonic monitor on my desk at work anymore. Again, take what you are hearing at face value, Viewsonic + android = meh. I enjoyed my g tablet when i purchased it and it does almost all that I need but I hoped for more and have gotten less. Keep it if you like, but 6 months from now when you are looking at another tablet you are going to be hard pressed to find anyone to buy your Viewsonic. The poor reputation flags are there already.
Keep in mind, Viewsonic is the same company that came to XDA saying they wanted feedback and input from this community about the g tablet. That was spring of this year and not a single thing has changed. They did that one firmware update in April and since then it has been nothing but pushed changes that then get pulled back.
Keep it if you are happy with it, I just wouldn't expect anything in terms of a large community ever coming of one of their devices.
It's been almost a year since they promised they'd release an update. Every time I've asked them about update, the only reply I've gotten is "we're working on it." I dare you to find any report of a different response than that.
Viewsonic needs to go back to producing nothing but display monitors and projectors. This company is not ready yet to play with the big boys in the computing market.
US vs UK - not exactly the same...
The G-Tablet was a US only product?!
The Viewpad 10e is only in the UK so far..... 9.7" IPS panel for £199, 9mm thick looks good value to me if your needs are not too demanding
Cant get my 10e to play videos from iplayer, any idea as to why not?
I decided to try one...
Works on live streaming for me from the app but not the others, think it could be to do with the Flash player version, read recently about other tablet users having issues with bandwidth / setting local storage to 0...
Which app did you use, couldn't find one in the 1mobile app store that came on the device
rustyfishhook said:
Which app did you use, couldn't find one in the 1mobile app store that came on the device
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BBC iPlayer 1.04 apk from the web. It still is only working for me with live TV, Flash version 10.3, Flash 11.0 wasn't working...
Will play around with the different versions in the office today
Ok so I now have the Viewpad 10e working with BBC iPlayer.
I used BBC iPlayer 1.0.4 & Flash 10.3.185.25
I put these into a zip file on 4shared, not sure if I am allowed to share the link or not..
Hello
I'm very keen on the Viewpad 10e myself. Has anyone tried out the multimedia side of it? it would be great t be able to play 1080p movies, etc. By the sounds of the 3D stuff that comes with it, it should be a decent GPU in it, would be nice to know how it does.
Custom ROM
Does anyone know how to install a custom ROM on the device?
Hi all
I'm thinking of getting one of these too. But I'm a bit concerened about the 'dated' SC A8 CPU and the dated OS?
Some of the things I will want to do on this is video calling using Skype (yes, I know there are other alternatives, but it has to be Skype) and playing DivX/Xvid movies and some .MKV movies. Could anyone tell me if it will be good enough? I am quite impressed by the dimensions and the screen, but if the specs can't keep up then I'm thinking of a cheap and chunky Tegra 2 tablet like the POV which is actually £10 cheaper and I'll put a custom ViewComb 3.2 ROM on it...
Any suggestions/opinions?
Does anyone know how to root the device?
Just got one for my daughter.
First impressions : well-made bit of kit with a great IPS screen. worth it for the hardware, I would say.
Moon reader pro is great on it, as is perfect viewer for comics and pdf's.
Can't get the video calling working for some reason. Anyone had any joy with this ?
Have tried Tango and Fring. In both cases, the FFC doesn't seem to switch on. You can see the the other person on it, but they can't see you.
Also, with Tango, the mic is switched off, and can't be switched back on.
Some sort of firmware shenanigans going on here. Had a quick chat with Viewsonic customer support just now, who will email me back.
Bit concerned by the negative comments on this thread !
Wanted the archos 101 as HMV were doing it for £129 , but just missed the boat, and then this came to my attention in Argos. Hope I haven't landed a dud !
Well, so far, have managed to get all her bits on it. Their version of market is a bit limited, but there is enough to get you started. Go launcher was a must, after having it on my Galaxy S2 phone, and it seems to cope ok. Formatted some of her films as mp4's and the shipped 'vortex player' handles them well.
Video calling would have been icing on the cake really.
Oh yeah, and whatsapp functionality, but there are ways around that I am looking into now.
Overall so far - promising.
Root and custom rom's would really maximise this thing's potential.
Oh yeah, and won't talk to my macbook pro over bluetooth- first device ever to do that.