Will Root, and when?
As of right now, I don't think anyone has done it. Us Aria users were able to use unrevoked--hopefully support for the Gratia will come soon.
Here is a previous thread--maybe you can work with them to get it rooted?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=872822
unshad said:
Will Root, and when?
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The current HBOOT on the newer HTC phones is the issue. Until another exploit is discovered, a permanent rooting solution is not yet available. The Unrevoked team made this tweet recently so maybe hope is on the horizon:
http://twitter.com/unrevoked/status/24492360310198272
So with Root silence...
Any news about rooting Gratia?
neskor777 said:
Any news about rooting Gratia?
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Second thread, second post, same answer. There is no documented method for rooting a Gratia that was shipped with Android 2.2.
Ok, thanx!
tpbklake said:
Second thread, second post, same answer. There is no documented method for rooting a Gratia that was shipped with Android 2.2.
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HTC today released Aria 2.2 source code..do you think is it possible to root HTC Gratia too?
Bay Harbor Butcher said:
HTC today released Aria 2.2 source code..do you think is it possible to root HTC Gratia too?
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The kernel source code is not the key to rooting a device. The bootloader is locked down and has closed a hole that was previously used to exploit and root the device. The source code that was released today does not include the bootloader code.
tpbklake said:
The kernel source code is not the key to rooting a device. The bootloader is locked down and has closed a hole that was previously used to exploit and root the device. The source code that was released today does not include the bootloader code.
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Ok..so I think root for Gratia will never arrive. Bootloader surely has another hole but we need someone who find it out.
Bay Harbor Butcher said:
Ok..so I think root for Gratia will never arrive. Bootloader surely has another hole but we need someone who find it out.
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There are several current HTC devices that have the same issue, not just the Gratia/Aria and there are several devs in the HTC community that are looking for a new exploit. Hopefully it will only be a matter of time...
Must sux to have stock froyo since last year and not be able to root. I just got my jap aria last month and barely keeping it together with out the root.
I'm interested in rooting my Gratia too
Permanent root is impossible now, but temporary root is possible via Visionary+ R14 (Tested)
jwfoo said:
Permanent root is impossible now, but temporary root is possible via Visionary+ R14 (Tested)
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Thanks for the confirmation. I also thought temp root should be possible and that will allow you to run most of the apps that need root access.
Temporary root really works? How many people tried it?
I'm really afraid of brick...
sorry for my english
tomskra said:
Temporary root really works? How many people tried it?
I'm really afraid of brick...
sorry for my english
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This is a very old thread. It's possible to software S-OFF the Gratia now, which includes the ability to permanently root.
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I am quite new on android and I have never rooted.
Now I have decided to root my HTC aria but it is upgraded to 2.2 through OTA.
I have Googled for a while, and it seems that rooting is not possible on aria 2.2 OTA upgrade.
Is it true?
If yes, am I going to master reset (factory data reset) it to root?
Or are there any other ways?
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p.s. sorry for poor English I am from HK
Edit: I have already downgraded it to 2.1 Eclair but the version of hboot is still 1.02.
Also, I still can't root it.
That is correct, you can't root your phone if you downloaded the 2.2 update, there is no way to root it as of yet and there is noway to downgrade
So I still can't root after factory reset?
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No, you cannot
I have already downgraded my phone to 2.1 Eclair.
But I still can't root it.
Is it because the version of hboot?
Yes it is.
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im having the same issue had it rooted them did the official 2.2 update and realized att took the wifi hotspot app and disabled it unless you have the 4gb tether $60. so now i guess ill be waiting for an update so i can root it someone is probably already on it, "i hope".
tt0204 said:
I have already downgraded my phone to 2.1 Eclair.
But I still can't root it.
Is it because the version of hboot?
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hi how did you downgrade to 2.1? i updated to froyo 2.2.2 from at&t and i wish i didnt please help me i want to downgrade thanks.
Looks like you made a bad mistake my friend =(. Sorry for ya.
i upgraded my to the official 2.2 now i cant get the free wifi hotspot feature without paying $60 bucks. Has anyone managed to root it yet?
chritz1179 said:
i upgraded my to the official 2.2 now i cant get the free wifi hotspot feature without paying $60 bucks. Has anyone managed to root it yet?
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No there is currently no way to root the newer HTC devices that have installed the Froyo update, including now the AT&T Aria. HTC has modified the HBOOT loader code on all of these devices and removed the previous root exploit that was used. At this point in time a new rootable exploit has not been found, so you are out of luck.
tpbklake said:
No there is currently no way to root the newer HTC devices that have installed the Froyo update, including now the AT&T Aria. HTC has modified the HBOOT loader code on all of these devices and removed the previous root exploit that was used. At this point in time a new rootable exploit has not been found, so you are out of luck.
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Why would HTC (= not gay) allow ATT (= gay) to dictate something line locking the phone to a specific ROM and not letting users continue to root the thing?
chilimac02 said:
Why would HTC (= not gay) allow ATT (= gay) to dictate something line locking the phone to a specific ROM and not letting users continue to root the thing?
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AT&T had nothing to do with this. HTC is the one that has changed the HBOOT loader code on all of their devices, not just the AT&T Aria. If you bought an unlocked HTC Aria from Asia and installed the Froyo 2.2 update, you would have the same issue.
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AT&T had nothing to do with this. HTC is the one that has changed the HBOOT loader code on all of their devices, not just the AT&T Aria. If you bought an unlocked HTC Aria from Asia and installed the Froyo 2.2 update, you would have the same issue.
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Yes indeed. But I don't get it why they are pressed to change the HBOOT like this. Someone will end-up cracking it anyway. But anyway...
Dude, you can still tether w/o paying by creating apn settings for MediaNet.
You can find info about APN settings in the forum or download an app that can backup apn settings (I use HiAPN) and access your phone via computer and open up the XML file. In that file it should have the apn settings of your carrier (password, proxy, etc.) Make a new APN setting with the same values you just read. Please note that MCC is 310 and MNC is 410.
Has anyone figured out how to root the new aria HBOOT ? Or are they still working on it if anyone is working on it.
as far as I know, many people had this mistake and had to wait for developer to solve it one day
adamb2 said:
Has anyone figured out how to root the new aria HBOOT ? Or are they still working on it if anyone is working on it.
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This is a common problem with a lot of the HTC devices and is not unique to the Aria upgrade, so once a solution is discovered, hopefully it can be applied to the Aria also.
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Yes indeed. But I don't get it why they are pressed to change the HBOOT like this. Someone will end-up cracking it anyway. But anyway...
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Security of the platform. If you openly allow people to gain root access to your devices, no one will want to carry your device, nor develop software for it.
Rooting allows
-method to circumvent tethering restrictions
-file browsing the phone which allows easy pirating of software
Me, I want to root for the first reason.
im also facing this issue
Aria official android 2.2, HBOOT 1.02, SHIP ON
not able to root it, waiting for someone talented working out a solution...
without having s-off?
i really just want the perm root until they can get all the kinks of of these early ROMs
No.
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ah ok
because right now they making stock custom roms
and..... that just seems silly?
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No.
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I'm thinking of getting a Evo 3D, but I've been Ify because of the Root/Recovery situation.
Anyways my question is...
Is it Possible yet to Fully Root the Evo 3D? And if so, is it also Possible to Install a Custom Recovery like ClockworkMod?
Thanx in Advance!
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I'm thinking of getting a Evo 3D, but I've been Ify because of the Root/Recovery situation.
Anyways my question is...
Is it Possible yet to Fully Root the Evo 3D? And if so, is it also Possible to Install a Custom Recovery like ClockworkMod?
Thanx in Advance!
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Root is available. Head to the development section to learn how to root and flash a recovery.
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you don't need to flash any of the ROMs if you dont like them. I would root in case HTC/sprint sends a forced update. Might as well right?
PMGRANDS said:
I'm thinking of getting a Evo 3D, but I've been Ify because of the Root/Recovery situation.
Anyways my question is...
Is it Possible yet to Fully Root the Evo 3D? And if so, is it also Possible to Install a Custom Recovery like ClockworkMod?
Thanx in Advance!
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Come to the Dark Side lol..... We have full root & s-off. 2 Recovery's to choose from (clockwork & Team Win Recovery Project), kernels/overclocking, and modified stock roms popping up daily. Aosp is still a little ways out, but there's still plenty to do, while we wait.
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Come to the Dark Side lol..... We have full root & s-off. 2 Recovery's to choose from (clockwork & Team Win Recovery Project), kernels/overclocking, and modified stock roms popping up daily. Aosp is still a little ways out, but there's still plenty to do, while we wait.
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Ok sounds Good to me... Thanx!
This is probably a super noob question, but I haven't quite gotten into the 3VO development scene yet. I keep hearing that the bootloader is yet to be unlocked, but people are talking about a permanent root already?
Can someone explain to me the difference between temp root and permanent root? I know the difference between temporary and permanent, but how does it apply to rooting your 3VO? Also, how does a locked boot loader affect us and why do we want it unlocked? Last thing, what is S-off? Thanks!
vulcZ said:
This is probably a super noob question, but I haven't quite gotten into the 3VO development scene yet. I keep hearing that the bootloader is yet to be unlocked, but people are talking about a permanent root already?
Can someone explain to me the difference between temp root and permanent root? I know the difference between temporary and permanent, but how does it apply to rooting your 3VO? Also, how does a locked boot loader affect us and why do we want it unlocked? Last thing, what is S-off? Thanks!
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Permanent root means S-off and a few other things. People are talking about HTC when they speak of unlocking bootloaders. If you root your phone through AlphaREV, your phone will be permanently rooted.
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vulcZ said:
This is probably a super noob question, but I haven't quite gotten into the 3VO development scene yet. I keep hearing that the bootloader is yet to be unlocked, but people are talking about a permanent root already?
Can someone explain to me the difference between temp root and permanent root? I know the difference between temporary and permanent, but how does it apply to rooting your 3VO? Also, how does a locked boot loader affect us and why do we want it unlocked? Thanks!
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Permanent root is only available via an unlocked bootloader, because of the write protection on the phone. Fortunately for the community a combined effort between Alpharev & Unrevoked, resulted in the bootloaders being unlocked Friday evening. While HTC did say that they would unlock the loaders, the "Revolution" tool is the reccomended way to proceed as there's no way to say what sort of stipulations HTC might incorporate. Check one of the many S-Off threads in the developement section or pm me if you need a more detailed answer.
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Permanent root is only available via an unlocked bootloader, because of the write protection on the phone. Fortunately for the community a combined effort between Alpharev & Unrevoked, resulted in the bootloaders being unlocked Friday evening. While HTC did say that they would unlock the loaders, the "Revolution" tool is the reccomended way to proceed as there's no way to say what sort of stipulations HTC might incorporate. Check one of the many S-Off threads in the developement section or pm me if you need a more detailed answer.
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This^, my answer was half-arsed lol.
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hockeyfamily737 said:
Permanent root is only available via an unlocked bootloader, because of the write protection on the phone. Fortunately for the community a combined effort between Alpharev & Unrevoked, resulted in the bootloaders being unlocked Friday evening. While HTC did say that they would unlock the loaders, the "Revolution" tool is the reccomended way to proceed as there's no way to say what sort of stipulations HTC might incorporate. Check one of the many S-Off threads in the developement section or pm me if you need a more detailed answer.
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Awesome, thanks guys! That's exactly what I wanted to know. So now I can go ahead and root my phone and wait for the next badass ROM (hopefully CM!) for this phone!
Soooo, I have been living a relatively blissful existence in the rooted world rocking cyanogenmod 7. For a couple of reasons I decided to try the latest "official" gb leak from HTC... And I've lost root...
So, my question is: what/where am I? My s-key is still off... I originally rooted using the revolutionary method, should I redo the root process?
Thanks in advance!
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Soooo, I have been living a relatively blissful existence in the rooted world rocking cyanogenmod 7. For a couple of reasons I decided to try the latest "official" gb leak from HTC... And I've lost root...
So, my question is: what/where am I? My s-key is still off... I originally rooted using the revolutionary method, should I redo the root process?
Thanks in advance!
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What exactly did you flash?
The latest gingerbread leak for the thunderbolt (from Android Police) is what I flashed.
"[Exclusive Download] Gingerbread Build 2.11.605.3 Full RUU And New Radio For HTC ThunderBolt"
I'd post a link, but I'm not yet allowed.
seamusz said:
The latest gingerbread leak for the thunderbolt (from Android Police) is what I flashed.
"[Exclusive Download] Gingerbread Build 2.11.605.3 Full RUU And New Radio For HTC ThunderBolt"
I'd post a link, but I'm not yet allowed.
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Well, when you flash an RUU (something you really shouldn't do unless you want a bone stock device) you're going to loose root because HTC doesn't root their ROMs.
You should be able to just reflash a new recovery (since the RUU probably wiped it) and superuser and be good. If not, reflash the recovery and try a rooted version of the ROM. And stay away from RUUs... If you'd rooted with ADB you'd be looking at a completely bone stock, S-On device right now.
If you want to try newest leak rooted and running very nicely load my Vigor lookalike or xdabolt in development section both based off 2.11.605.3 mine has a few more tweaks and custom kernel his is more stock if you want that with HTC kernel.
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Since you still have S-off you're still rooted. Download Superuser from the market. And clockworkmod comes with rom manager from the market if im not mistaken.
TDubKong said:
Since you still have S-off you're still rooted. Download Superuser from the market. And clockworkmod comes with rom manager from the market if im not mistaken.
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No. S-off is S-off, not root by any stretch of the imagination. Let's not confuse people by mixing terms that aren't interchangeable.
loonatik78 said:
No. S-off is S-off, not root by any stretch of the imagination. Let's not confuse people by mixing terms that aren't interchangeable.
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I was told that when i first rooted my phone that as long as i had S-Off that meant i still had root. Never saw anyone say any differently until just now when you did. I'll check it out. I am far from being a developer I just know what i been told and what I have found out on my own. So if I am wrong then ignore my previous post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838909
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I was told that when i first rooted my phone that as long as i had S-Off that meant i still had root. Never saw anyone say any differently until just now when you did. I'll check it out. I am far from being a developer I just know what i been told and what I have found out on my own. So if I am wrong then ignore my previous post.
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S-off merely allows root permissions to persist beyond reboot. It primarily locks out writing to /data and /system, and without those, root is impossible. The difficulty in rooting a new device is finding a way around the bootloader security to achieve SU access so that exploits can be used to write a new bootloader that won't check for root and will allow writing to /system and /data. Once security is off, gaining SU status is fairly easy. It is entirely possible to have S-off and run a non-rooted ROM. I hope that clears up confusion. If I'm wrong somewhere in this, I hope someone corrects me.
has anyone attempted to write a new hboot using a goldcard? will this method work to gain s-off?
nixxofugi said:
has anyone attempted to write a new hboot using a goldcard? will this method work to gain s-off?
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Since you are the first person I have seen even mention this "goldcard", I imagine the answer would be no.
I am curious, and I'm sure there are others. Could you give a brief explanation of this "goldcard" witchcraft with which you are acquainted?
I'd settle for a link to read, if you know of one.
A little info
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=572683
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Interesting.
Has this been successful on any of HTC's more recent devices? I can't imagine an exploit that dates back to the Hero, would work on the more recent devices. I imagine what we are dealing with now, has been in place since the MT3G Slide. Wasn't that the first device that could not be S-OFF'd?
Would be awesome if it did, though.
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Interesting.
Has this been successful on any of HTC's more recent devices? I can't imagine an exploit that dates back to the Hero, would work on the more recent devices. I imagine what we are dealing with now, has been in place since the MT3G Slide. Wasn't that the first device that could not be S-OFF'd?
Would be awesome if it did, though.
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I did a little digging, and it appears that this would not work on anything that shipped with Gingerbread.
This only works on devices that have both a stock Gingerbread and Froyo ROMs. The Gingerbread ROM is exploited with the "goldcard", which allows a downgrade to a Froyo ROM. The Froyo ROM is then the one that is actually used to S-OFF the device. Once the S-OFF flag is set, it remains in perpetuity.
Since there is no Froyo ROM to downgrade to, it won't work, we wouldn't be able to make use of an HBOOT that old on the Amaze ROMs. I think someone already tried to flash an older version of an ENG HBOOT, and was unsuccessful.
You can try this if you like... I'm still waiting for input. I'm too cowardly to try it myself since a phone is of vital importance for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18770379&postcount=54
And a few posts prior to that said that the goldcard method didn't work. ref post #49.
Don't try it guys this is a year old or so and it was hard to do on the devices it was made for.
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Hi, is there any way how to root stock HC rom, w/o S-OFF? I just need to install one application and don't want to have custom recovery because of ofic. updates, etc... (I know that they forgot us, and no update will roll out, but still hope for it )
Should be able to htc dev unlock
mcord11758 said:
Should be able to htc dev unlock
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But you will lose warranty immediately
Mich3lin said:
But you will lose warranty immediately
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You might lose warranty, depending on the problem