Hi all; I am new (here that is) but am fully capable microsoft certified & mvp coder.
Who is or want's to be or can help working on magldr compatible wp7 Kitchen and initial live-activated dwi rom?
1st goal here to make a kitchen then for hello_world just rebuild leo70 with live activated. Maybe get together here and setup proper dedicated irc. This may not be normal way to go about but I am not interested in social netiquette distractions. Just want to work on this and get it done. I have been using dumps (both my own and this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=915978 ) along with jtag, and everything at my disposal.
I am doing this now with progress already made and have been working on this since prior to leo70 public release.
if interested or have news or info please post here or pm me- thanks.
G-ThGraf said:
Could we make a WP7 ROM with Chevronwp7 and all tweaks i cooked in?
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I am hoping to and trying to and will make a kitchen and then this so soon: YES!
leo70 said:
Anyone made any moves on .rgu to .provxml to enable service mode on leo70?
REGEDIT4
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\BootLauncher]
"Default"="ServiceApp.exe"
or:
REGEDIT4
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\USB\FunctionDrivers\TFTP]
"DeviceName"="USBFNS3:"
"USB_MaxPower"=dword:32
"bcdDevice"=dword:00000000
"Product"="Generic Serial"
"idProduct"=dword:00000629
"Manufacturer"="Generic Manufacturer"
"idVendor"=dword:0000045e
"IClass"="{CC5195AC-BA49-48a0-BE17-DF6D1B0173DD}"
"Flags"=dword:00000002
"Prefix"="FTP"
"Dll"="tftp.dll"
Anyone use trivial ftp for FUU? anyone called these DLLs or used/moded these keys?
also: per Da_G partition layout and comments for wp7 hard spl: for FFU/RUU: is it serial or usb/kitl/ethernet?
I think injecting a certificate into leo70 and rebuilding dump up will then allow an ffu to be flashed; debugging this then leads to a lot; hspl, kitchen, new roms.
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Where is all the action/info !?
I wish you all the luck to make this a wonderful experience. Hope people with relevant knowledge and skills join you for this cause.
first there need to be some tools to be made , like Reloc , rebuild imgfs , maybe a platformbuilder like bepe did.
after that you could make a kitchen.
Da_G have posted some interesting information in WP7 Development & Hacking section
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=649914
maybe this would also help to understand the structure of the (our DFT) rom.
Sounds good guys. Potentially integration of the android set up could be good bypassing the need to copy partitions across etc.
Wow ... good luck my friend
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The imgfs rebuild with all modify is possible with tools here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=685272
But a this time i don't find way to rebuild flash.store.bin (part04.bin = os.nb) content bin's:
LOGO
BLDR
NK
SLDR1
SLDR2
IMGFS
USER
...
Maybe the DFT wait to give the tool for community ??
;p
Good luck seems an excellent idea
netdrg said:
The imgfs rebuild with all modify is possible with tools here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=685272
But a this time i don't find way to rebuild flash.store.bin (part04.bin = os.nb) content bin's:
LOGO
BLDR
NK
SLDR1
SLDR2
IMGFS
USER
...
Maybe the DFT wait to give the tool for community ??
;p
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HazzBazz said:
Sounds good guys. Potentially integration of the android set up could be good bypassing the need to copy partitions across etc.
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sandman01 said:
Da_G have posted some interesting information in WP7 Development & Hacking section
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=649914
maybe this would also help to understand the structure of the (our DFT) rom.
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ceesheim said:
first there need to be some tools to be made , like Reloc , rebuild imgfs , maybe a platformbuilder like bepe did.
after that you could make a kitchen.
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Cool.
we can at least discuss it all here maybe: put all relevant info together.
I agree with u ceesheim, with tools required etc.
What about 7/CE platform builder though, modify, plus existing tools for imgfs etc? I was thinking also: for now anyway: just disassembling dwi.exe and figuring out all of the other partxx of this build which gets around non-wp7-spl. its a great hack and bears with it some interesting methods which may lead to other things.
I am really just exploring all options for now; any ideas, thoughts, discoveries? To be honest I am only reverse enginerring it all and have not yet tried to rebuild flash.store.bin (part04.bin = os.nb). Was going to try a few os.nb in there and just see response of magldr etc. Been lazy last few days lol.
But point is seems FUU/RUU and then Cotulla,DFT,Bepe' DWI give us two different paths to explore here!
What are exact known problems & current states on that: trying to do dump to (re)-build+flash?
I think that is where I will work - figure out other partxx.bin and magldr and disassemble dwi.exe to make flasher.
Thoughts?
ceesheim said:
this is used to dump it :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884239
I think it was part 4 you had to rename to .nb and then open in this rom tool.
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netdrg said:
i use the tools here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=685272
For make this dump
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ceesheim said:
only different is that the tools from da_g are command line .
the link I posted is more noob prove
I just tested it , rename part4.bin to part4.nb
then open romtools and click open ,go to the location where you stored part4.nb and click it and hit the button open
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Yep, thanks guys.
I use them all depending on what I am doing. Da_G great: use all these tools 4 imgfs, xip, uldr, xph, etc and yeah - can get same for part04.nb to rie. What been discovered/worked out for other partxx.bin of 'myname' ? emul' wp7 spl etc opened, explored? Anyone know overall kitchen progress thus far? Hope wp7 kitchen ppl can get together more so and get this done!
leo70 said:
Ok.........
Anyone looked at rgu for serviceapp.exe or got anything on this? calls to DLL for Trivial FTP for FUU? Also: questions if any wouldnt mind:
anyway to tweak dwi.exe just like daf.exe and use switches like |ro| and other switches and set part layout size etc? originally thought could force magldr to convert-extract by putting other partxx.bins on part(0) user then do userdata dump to .img but layout! and prob it just dump in original .bin anyway? not quite sure how dwi places converts- containers, fs, etc?
What IS known about magldr, partxx.bin(s), dwi.exe?
Yeah, im being lazy, maybe too hopeful here on these ones, but worth asking. I will fully disassemble dwi.exe later on .
If problem with rebuild .nb/.nbh perhaps use another kitchen like zero or visual osbuilder with wm6 and just rename .nb to part04.bin to even see if it will load at all; debug this and watch this strap up; I might try this with stock os.nb made to fit to size. CRC?
it may fail totally but I want to see why and where/when/by what. ie: interaction with wp7 hd2 spl emulacrum and other parts+magldr. Will cotl' spl etc get wm6; should 'understand' wm6 os.nb?
Might lead to exploration of other partxx.bin from within wm6 or mtty. another thing is mtty. Mtty brings other ideas into play; if we know Cotulla and DFT layouts etc and truly understand magldr, partxx.bin, dwi.exe, and emulacrum spl, then we can go another way: that is all I am really saying here.
Especially considering how it is built and lack of tools/info on this ***particular*** wp7 build.
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Ok.........
Anyone looked at rgu for serviceapp.exe or got anything on this? calls to DLL for Trivial FTP for FUU? Also: questions if any wouldnt mind:
anyway to tweak dwi.exe just like daf.exe and use switches like |ro| and other switches and set part layout size etc? originally thought could force magldr to convert-extract by putting other partxx.bins on part(0) user then do userdata dump to .img but layout! and prob it just dump in original .bin anyway? not quite sure how dwi places converts- containers, fs, etc?
Yeah, im being lazy, maybe too hopeful here on these (ffu/ruu) ones etc, but worth asking. These are what I will figure out/we need to. Also noted "wph" string in daf.exe for droid. interesting. so yes, bypass option seems real.
edit: going back to what I said above, replacing part04.bin COMPLETELY with equivalent size os.nb (rename back to part04.bin) and flashing with dwi.exe? there is a plethora of things that could be attempted this way. crc? size? errors? not sure, but there is that hd3/hd7 experimental leaked "hd2 wp7" rom that wouldn't flash to hd2 under normal spl. and a lot of other things here to do; I am just interested in this as it bypasses all normal known spl mechanisms completely! You can flash anything you want without checks etc. And then explore interaction with Cotulla' spl (wp7hd2LEO1000) and other partxx.bin etc. Thoughts?
As far as orthodox methodology goes, so, bepe_cotulla_dft made a complete new platform builder and bsp? thoughts on where to start without this?
Please note I am a windows (nt) kernel coder and getting my head around phone7, ie bsp/oal=hal (!) so please bear with me! Who is working on Transaction Safe exFAT? any progress towards cracking? what is Encryption used in TexFAT? Along with kernel/drivers (nt x86/x64) also have cryptography experience. Sorry for all the questions! umm, in summary:
I am also assuming other partxx.bin(s) of DFT release are SPL, OEM, OEM RO, etc.
***Anyone got up KITL and/or can debug this leo70 release? (please answer with instructions etc!).***
edit: with above factors being case, I will fully disassemble and reverse magldr, partxx.bin, cotulla wp7 hd2 spl, os.nb, dwi.exe later on . edit: am doing now. whilst reading architecture for windows 7 phone! Kitchen will be done, but ability to just flash and part layout initially required imho! I am going to take control of magldr, cotulla wp7 spl, dwi.exe first: doing this now .
Sorry to spread over few posts!
Ultimately thus, concluding, I think key here is to reverse engineer all (cotulla' wp7-hd2-spl emulacrum, magldr, os.nb, all other partxx.bins, dwi.exe) then create new open set of each these and new flasher: anyone explored this, disagree, agree?
This is what I am doing now .
Got IP address & can see what is being done.
i like your work
keep up what u doing and i hope to get it done so we can finally use wp7 unlocked and activated
thank you...
@Leo70
I'm a coocker (for windows mobile 6.X) so if you need some help i think i could help you. Just PM me if you need
Why don't you ask Cotulla? Reverse Engineering will be much more longer?
I think they are working on a new MGLDR so why do your own thing on your side?
Can you put a file in the installation process where we can put our Live ID Code?
If every one have the same market ID that will possibly be a problem in the future?
I'm not trying to teach you anything don't really now about dev stuff just wanted to share my thought and opinion.
looking forward to this kitchen....
ok, after 3 days of attempting to download RUU_Schubert_HTC_Europe_1.60.401.01_Radio_5.52.09.16_22.33a.50.10_Signed rom i had finally been successful so i thought i should try out swapping stuff to determine what each part**.bin represents.. started off with the basic os.nb swapping and tried flashing magldr to see the changes..
i hate to be the bearer of bad news but it seems partition size & info are hardcoded into DWI.exe so the file size change doesnt allow for a successful flashing..
so lets hope it will be more flexible when magldr 1.13 is released (which is going to be released "soon" as in no specific eta) otherwise this kitchen might just serve the purpose for building nb's/nbh's for other devices..
But im sure this issue is only present in magldr 1.12 dwi.exe as the wp7 rom wasnt released officially in xda, however only time will tell
Only time will tell, fingers crossed
this project sounds great. a already tweaked rom would be awesome and an pre activated rom even better.
keep up the work. maybe you should contact cotulla and ask him rather than reverse engineer everything. maybe he will help you and save you a lot of work.
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Since getting my XDAII a few days ago, I've been impressed with the number of customisations possible, and have managed to acheive a number of different tasks, however, I have as yet to cook my own ExtROM for it.
This is something I would very much like to do, and I have acquired an ms_.nbf from the end of the line update that O2 provides from their website.
I have all the necessary tools to do it, and I know exactly how to, but I do not know which packages I need to keep in order to have a PDA with fully functioning bluetooth, blackberry and ad nauseum. alternately, as I'm sure that there is probably an ExtROM with all the bare essentials in it (and probably newer version essentials too) so if someone could point me to one, or the other I'd be very grateful, and whatever it is, I am definitely interested in dumping O2Active.
you dont need to mess with nbf files to cook an extented rom
you can just use the tool to unhide and unlock the extented rom from the xda and remove the cab files you dont want and
add the ones you want and change the config.txt file to include the new stuff and exclude the stuff you removed
then you just lock and hide the rom and hardreset
and the rest if history
I know, but someone else wants a custom ROM, and they're too far away for me to get hold of their PDA to do it that way.
all I need to know now is what .CAB files I need to include to have everything functioning, then I'll bung on extras
I guess this is a trial and error jobby then.
now something I've wondered that should be simple to answer;
when flashing on an ExtROM, is it possible to flash ONLY the ExtROM, or is it mandatory to flash the OS and radio as well, on pain of trashing the PDA and reducing it to only the bootloader.
well, through trial and error I've got it all sorted, thanks to everyone for their help... oh, wait, I didn't get any help, but many thanks to Rudegar.
Sure, you don't owe me anything, but if a forum's been setup for the purpose of giving help, it sure would have been nice to have received some rather than just getting ignored because I haven't made enough posts yet to join whatever religious PDA sect you happen to run exclusively to help eachother.
rant over, I've made my point, perhaps something positive can come of it?
Just yesterday I created my first "EXTENDED ROM" and installed it by myself for my friends XDA II, all you need is EDIT2003 program thats on the wiki somewhere. Then you can open the ms_.nbf, and edit the splash images and the files it will install on the hard reset, then just install it to the phone using the rom upgrade procedure but put the extended rom in and delete the nk.nbf and the radio_.nbf tah dah!
SoftBank's known 3G/HSDPA flat-rate packet data connection setting that has hacked from old X01HT ExtROM (user name: "open", password started from "oz...") will be unusable on end of March.
The user name of new setting (available at current ROM that released on end of Nov. 2006) has changed as "opensoftbank", and still no one hacked the password itself.
However, finally I found a way to create the connetcion, using some files dumped from current X01HT ROM.
To create SoftBank's connection that can be used continuously after Apr. 1 2007, you need ROM COOKING as follows, because at least the file WIFIwake.exe should be in the ROM to make the connection.
Step 1. Cook your ROM (add following 2 files in attached ZIP) and update device.
For general instruction of Hermes' ROM cooking, see the Wiki and related resouces.
addfile Out.xml
addfile WIFIwake.exe(A.xml and Initial.exe aren't needed)
Step 2. Install ConnSBM.CAB (included in ZIP)
The connection will be created, however password entry is still empty at this moment.
Step 3. The files are in ROM, so you need to set to "Menu -> Show All Files" on File Explorer to make ROM-attributed files visible (or, use similar option for 3rd party's file explorers, such as Resco or GSFinder+).
Step 4. Run WIFIwake.exe from \Windows folder.
The password will be created into the connection made by ConnSBM.CAB at Step 2.
To confirm whether success or not, check the connection "Internet > SoftBank", and click "Edit -> Next -> Next". If "****************" is shown at the Password field, the password has been successfully created.
If the password is not created, maybe WIFIwake.exe (non-ROM attributed) exists on \Windows. After running Initial.exe, WIFIwake.exe is copied onto storage from ROM. You need to delete it before retry, if you have run Initial.exe before install ConnSBM.CAB or lost setting.
BTW, I guess this way can be applied not only Hermes, but also Universal and/or any other HTC devices those can edit OS ROM (at least, I have successed on WM6 for Universal).
Enjoy AT YOUR OWN RISK !
Great work, a lot of japanese people was pursuing this for long time! Congratulations
Awesome, I had been doing this same thing for 3-4 days no and getting nowhere.
Mad props to you.
I have the Hermes and I'll be going to work as an engineer in Japan from April. I have installed the DoCoMo ROM for the moment (simply because out of the two ROMs, it's the one to have Bootloader 1.0.4, I have no trouble reading Japanese, and I need a Japanese input that's a bit more stable than Bagoj's IME).
However I'm wondering exactly what this thread would enable me to do... I'm planning on getting a subscription with either SoftBank or DoCoMo (whichever provides SIM cards/accepts to register a foreign phone).
If I get a SoftBank subscription, would this enable me to somehow cheat the subscription on getting more Internet for free? Or if that's wrong, what exactly would it enable me to get?
I haven't looked into the phone subscription system at the moment, but soon will. Whatever this thread exactly means could be a huge help in any choice I would have to make.
Many thanks for your help in advance,
Cheers,
Yannick
Hmm, I get the connection added but when I try to run the initial.exe from Windows is doesnt do anything. Using 3DES Custom.
@itamae
What Does The File intial.exe Do Exactly?
@jokinawa
How Is The Connection Created Without Running initial.exe?
Cheers
mousey_ said:
@itamae
What Does The File intial.exe Do Exactly?
@jokinawa
How Is The Connection Created Without Running initial.exe?
Cheers
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I finally got the program to work. Funny thing is that I could nt cook a ROM with the initial.exe in it of it would not install. I was using the Rom Koch 0.99 release. So if I just copied the files over to a fresh install of a ROM it worked but I had to click initial.exe about 4-5 times before the "loading" graphic appeared.
I am assuming that it either installs a dll with the password encoded in it of he knows the password and didn't want it to become public. Initial.exe puts the connection password in the connection that ConnSBM.CAB creates.
Without the initial.exe running you have the connection with a blank password.
Files
Seeing as how none of these files are in the ROM itself is there any way you can post a list of file to help us re-create the process?
Well done !!!
Finally we'll be able to upgrade to XDA Live of Crossbow without fearing to lose our flat rate !!
Alcibiade said:
Well done !!!
Finally we'll be able to upgrade to XDA Live of Crossbow without fearing to lose our flat rate !!
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By the way anybody courageous and kind enough to cook it with the latest WM6 version and post the ROM ?
I am trying to do that but I am learning from scratch... and it will probably take me a huge amount of time
Actually the best would be to compile it with some utilities to be able to read Japanese fonts and input Japanese...
This is wonderful news indeed! Now we only need a way to cook Japanese fonts and stable input into new ROMs and life would be perfect...
Great!
Alcibiade said:
By the way anybody courageous and kind enough to cook it with the latest WM6 version and post the ROM ?
I am trying to do that but I am learning from scratch... and it will probably take me a huge amount of time
Actually the best would be to compile it with some utilities to be able to read Japanese fonts and input Japanese...
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Every time I cooked the "addfiles" the initial.exe would not run properly and create the connection. If I cooked the other files minus the initial.exe and the cab it still wouldnt create the password. I could only get it to work by copying the files after flashing. Anybody get it to work in a cooked rom?
Alcibiade said:
By the way anybody courageous and kind enough to cook it with the latest WM6 version and post the ROM ?
I am trying to do that but I am learning from scratch... and it will probably take me a huge amount of time
Actually the best would be to compile it with some utilities to be able to read Japanese fonts and input Japanese...
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mmmh cooked the latest LVSW and it s working great
Thanks, thanks thanks a lot for this itamae !!
Alcibiade said:
mmmh cooked the latest LVSW and it s working great
Thanks, thanks thanks a lot for this itamae !!
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@^#)(!^@$ MMS Lite doesnt work
More EASY way has been found!!!
Another Japanese SoftBank user has found more easier way to add the new SB connection.
Now you DON'T need any ROM cooking. Please move to new thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1172318
Alcibiade said:
By the way anybody courageous and kind enough to cook it with the latest WM6 version and post the ROM ?
I am trying to do that but I am learning from scratch... and it will probably take me a huge amount of time
Actually the best would be to compile it with some utilities to be able to read Japanese fonts and input Japanese...
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posted here, OS also Japane,,どうだ！参ったか！
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1181259&postcount=48
I am not sure to understand the "cook" the ROM... are you talking about the OS part? The Radio or the Extended rom ?
Cheers
help
great to hear that u made it work. but still i cant get the softbank ap settings work
i got The connection created but however password entry is still empty .i tryed the way u have told. is there a easy way out. i use a o2 xda exec.
i would be really be happy if u could let me know
thanks
take care
suren
ysi said:
great to hear that u made it work. but still i cant get the softbank ap settings work
i got The connection created but however password entry is still empty .i tryed the way u have told. is there a easy way out. i use a o2 xda exec.
i would be really be happy if u could let me know
thanks
take care
suren
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after copy Out.xml & WIFImake.exe to /windows folder, click on WIFImake.exe then the passwd will be inserted there!
thanks for the mail but still i did not
may be some thing wrong with my rom
thanks
DCD if you dont like what im doing just tell me to delete this post and i will.
All credit goes to DCD one of the best kitchen and Rom maker's out there.
If it wasn't for him our 6800's would be almost useless.
This is for the people who are using the titan kitchen. I took DCD's latest build and repackaged it for the PPCKitchen.org Titan Kitchen located
here http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=23206
Place it in your BuildOS/Kitchens directory and then extract "Titan_DCD_3.01_Selections.txt" and place it in the BuildOS/Projects directory.
Now you can create your own custom DCD rom using the new kitchen and DCD's latest build.
I've been using this for about 20 hrs and the rom is very stable.
Thanks again DCD u Da MAN!!!!!!!!
Make Sure to remove---> _fixed <---from the end of the file before u place it in the kitchens folder.
Download
http://rapidshare.com/files/108106961/Titan_DCD_3.0.4_FIXED.rar REALLY FIXED this time LOL
thank i'm looking for this. I ran into error error nk.dat
AstronusX said:
thank i'm looking for this. I ran into error error nk.dat
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Sorry i forgot to change it from os.paylod to nk.fat, im up loading a fix right now thanks.
Errors in PPCkitchen
King - Thanks for putting this together
Unfortunately, I'm getting an error message (a bunch).
I downloaded the main file and did the updater.
When I go into BuildOS and select DCD 3.0.4 5054 or 5060, I am bombarded with error messages "Internal Error - Option.xml GUID not found (PROGRAM - xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) where the "Program" is the name of the program and the x's are registry keys.
After I click ok 100 times to get through to the Kitchen, it allows me to select programs and build the OS, but once I install it, nothing actually gets installed on the phone.
Do you know what is causing this? Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
mfrish said:
King - Thanks for putting this together
Unfortunately, I'm getting an error message (a bunch).
I downloaded the main file and did the updater.
When I go into BuildOS and select DCD 3.0.4 5054 or 5060, I am bombarded with error messages "Internal Error - Option.xml GUID not found (PROGRAM - xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) where the "Program" is the name of the program and the x's are registry keys.
After I click ok 100 times to get through to the Kitchen, it allows me to select programs and build the OS, but once I install it, nothing actually gets installed on the phone.
Do you know what is causing this? Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
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Is this your first time using the kitchen?
King_tee - I had to do alot of editing to get ALL the errors to go away. I had to remove the welcomehead96.png, also had to remove a few other items.... like remotedesktop..... I guess I should have taken a log of what I did....
Edit - However - VERY nice job getting it to where it is..... Thank you
Thanks will try. The BuildOS in the regular kitchen is crashing so I can now cook a kitchen.
Also will my OEMs made for the 3.0.1 rom work if I put them in the build os directory. I didn't use the OEMizer w/ BuildOS. It appears to be the same just w/ a different save directory.
azclown said:
King_tee - I had to do alot of editing to get ALL the errors to go away. I had to remove the welcomehead96.png, also had to remove a few other items.... like remotedesktop..... I guess I should have taken a log of what I did....
Edit - However - VERY nice job getting it to where it is..... Thank you
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No prob az i forgot about getting rid of those files. I thought i got all of them. I will upload a new file with the fixes for those who haven't downloaded it yet.
NEW FILE UP LOADED
Let me know if its working for you guys
As of this morning, the version I downloaded still gives an error (can't find HTC Sliding Sound module) when trying to load the selections.txt file for the DCD kitchen.
drgreenberg said:
As of this morning, the version I downloaded still gives an error (can't find HTC Sliding Sound module) when trying to load the selections.txt file for the DCD kitchen.
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The sliding sounds module is in the DCD OEM's folder......when u open it up in the kitchen it should come up as a selectable OEM. At then point all you have to do is select it.
Bell?
Does the kitchen work for Bell phones? It does not seem to be in the carrier list.
jondixon said:
Does the kitchen work for Bell phones? It does not seem to be in the carrier list.
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I don't know if it does.Are you are referring to the ppckitchen or DCD's Kitchen?
What i have provided is just a modified version of DCD's work (all credit goes to him) that will work in the ppckitchen.
You can check over here http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=23206
if you are talking about the ppckitchen, and they should be able to answer your questions.
If you asking about the DCD kitchen you can ask over here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=385336 and im sure he will help you out.
I guess the obvious question is, what's the difference between the two kitchens?
DCD's kitchen is built around his ROM. The PPCkitchen kitchen isn't designed for any specific ROM or device.
Advantages of DCD's kitchen:
It's what DCD is using, so you know it builds his ROM like he intended it.
Advantages of PPCkitchen's kitchen:
Easy to install.
Prettier front end.
More error checking.
More OEMs to pick from.
Self updating.
Device dependency/exclusions supported
Carrier dependency/exclusions supported
OEM dependency/exclusions supported
Easy to move same configuration from one kitchen to the next.
Effortless switching between ROM configurations and kitchens
Splash/animation support
gguruusa said:
DCD's kitchen is built around his ROM. The PPCkitchen kitchen isn't designed for any specific ROM or device.
Advantages of DCD's kitchen:
It's what DCD is using, so you know it builds his ROM like he intended it.
Advantages of PPCkitchen's kitchen:
Easy to install.
Prettier front end.
More error checking.
More OEMs to pick from.
Self updating.
Device dependency/exclusions supported
Carrier dependency/exclusions supported
OEM dependency/exclusions supported
Easy to move same configuration from one kitchen to the next.
Effortless switching between ROM configurations and kitchens
Splash/animation support
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I honestly don't think you give DCD enough credit for his work.... Here are some more Advantages....
Easy to use
Builds a basic ROM with only 2 clicks of the mouse.
Can be used behind firewalls.
No IP logging when you use it. (I had been told this was logged with your login name)
In all fairness both systems work very well, while the PPC kitchen has a more elegant streamlined interface, I do believe the end result is the same, a working ROM the way "I" want it.
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hey guy anybody else getting an error unable to make file
when it goes to unpack the ppcgeeksoem rar
azclown said:
I honestly don't think you give DCD enough credit for his work.... Here are some more Advantages....
Easy to use
Builds a basic ROM with only 2 clicks of the mouse.
Can be used behind firewalls.
No IP logging when you use it. (I had been told this was logged with your login name)
In all fairness both systems work very well, while the PPC kitchen has a more elegant streamlined interface, I do believe the end result is the same, a working ROM the way "I" want it.
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Could be because DCD has only a little to do with what we're talking about (which I gave him credit for). That's Bepe's buildos you're looking at, and essentially what we're comparing is Bepe's buildos w/ DCD integrated against PPCKitchen's buildos w/ DCD integrated.
You can't seriously suggest that Bepe's buildos is easier to use - the interface is practically identical! Both are about the same difficulty to use in their most basic, unaltered configurations, and both can build a basic rom w/ 2 clicks. Installing, configuring, starting, and maintaining is a lot different however...the nod hands down goes to ppckitchen there. Once you get past a basic configuration, PPCkitchen's buildos is unchallenged.
The proxy/firewall thing is fixed (general release this weekend) and it doesn't log IPs (never has).
Bepe's buildos get's the nod for no internet connection required, and the previous version (I don't know about v2) get's the nod for Linux compatible. Bepe's buildos also get's the nod for being more interfaceable to other projects and having more projects using it, but none of that is related to the original question (except maybe linux compatibility). [EDIT: v2 isn't native linux compatible, so no nod there.]
All of this is not too suprising, as PPCkitchen's buildos is, at it's core, an evolution of Bepe's Buildos.
I give credit to all sources DCD's kitchen / PPC Geeks kitchen and more.
They both offer the tools to make a ROM to your likings, some better then other, but the fact of the matter is that it gets the job done.
What PPC Geeks version is doing is making a bit more user friendly ( in my opinion ), but I still used DCD's kitchens because I really don't add any extra OEM's to my ROM's unless it is a specifically Themed ROM and then again I can get it done with both kitchens with ease.
I guess users will just have to test them both out themselves to see if they prefer one or the other.
What would be great is if we can have a Modifier / virtual simulator / kitchen where we can find ways to modify our ROM's / PPC's to their best potential ( such as drivers, RAM Management that works / compatibility with different OS and maybe interface change support ).
A virtual simulator to test out all of our modifications by simulating our respective device just as if we were to cook the ROM ( this could save tons of time rather then just flashing all the time or preventing an accidental bricking of your phone)
And a Universal kitchen for practically any Device ( well TITAN at least for our use ) that works on XP, Vista, MAC, and even Linux.
Im sure with all the developers on this forum and on ppcgeeks we would be able to get this done some time in the future.
Just an Idea....
[email protected]$ said:
What would be great is if we can have a Modifier / virtual simulator / kitchen where we can find ways to modify our ROM's / PPC's to their best potential ( such as drivers, RAM Management that works / compatibility with different OS and maybe interface change support ).
A virtual simulator to test out all of our modifications by simulating our respective device just as if we were to cook the ROM ( this could save tons of time rather then just flashing all the time or preventing an accidental bricking of your phone)
And a Universal kitchen for practically any Device ( well TITAN at least for our use ) that works on XP, Vista, MAC, and even Linux.
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PPCkitchen buildos is actually the closest you can come currently for easily swapping components around, and there's a universal kitchen here on xda that supports many devices (way more devices than PPCkitchen does).
Don't hold your breath on the hardware emulator
lightbiter said:
hey guy anybody else getting an error unable to make file
when it goes to unpack the ppcgeeksoem rar
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You'll have to elaborate a little better. If I had to guess, however, I'd say that you might have an older version of winrar installed. As a workaround, you can manually extract and modify the selections to use the extracted dir instead of the .rar.
I allreyd flashed a lot and did use a soft spl, but I do not find a proper
explanation what it is.
So, i Think it is the Bootloader ?
Can anyone tell me what a soft and a hard SPL is and does ?
For what do I need it ?
I just got my new Touch Pro bought in UK and now it is here in Germany and I want a german ROM on it as soon as it is available.
Please don´t write your standard answers like WIKI and Search - a forum is here for communication and I did not find the proper answers - only too long threats
Greetings
Marcus
69reichertm said:
....So, i Think it is the Bootloader ?...
....Can anyone tell me what a soft and a hard SPL is and does ?....
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Yep your right on that assumption sir The bootloader does alot of the low level handling of the startup process when you power on the device aswell as handling the process when you flash anything to the device...im sure its far more technical than that but thats a starter explanation Essentially you NEED a bootloader for the device to work at all, the case with many of the HTC devices...other devices are different most likely.
Soft SPL: (normally referred to as SSPL) IS loaded into RAM and allows you to perform some of the operations the standard bootloader would do, naturally with some extra functionality (explained later)
HardSPL: Same sort of thing except it is flashed to the device permenantly, so it replaces the HTC bootloader in your devices flash memory.
Both of these tend to safeguard against corrupting the device by having some fancy workarounds and updates to the processes built into the HTC SPL, and the best part is that they allow you to flash ANY ROM you wish therefor allowing us to use Cooked ROMs and various updates like radio updates and etc...frees the device up quite superbly.
69reichertm said:
Please don´t write your standard answers like WIKI and Search - a forum is here for communication and I did not find the proper answers - only too long threads
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Perhaps some mebers feel like adding a general HardSPL page to the wiki for FAQs like this to be answered better than "Search the forum.." since we know its not that good for finding anything.
The Wiki is there for everyone to use and edit so, learn and pass it on
Just a quick question, does any of this interfere with HTC released updated ROMs? Like, when they release a new version on their site, does having HardSPL prevent you from updating?
Hello !
Thank you for your advise.
One more question:
Should I install Hard or Soft SPL ?
I want to try out many ROMS - I think Hard is better, what do you mean ?
Thank you for your help
By the way:
I am a kind of technican - working in IT for nearly 18 years starting fron Novell, Banyan Vines and DOS up to Windows Vista. Also I am a kind of apple Guru, thats why I have certainly an iPhone 2G and 3G.
For business I use HTC devices sind the first MDA. But I lost track a little sind iPhone.
As I am a technic nerc I sstarted with th the Diamond touch again and I liked the device but i swapped this week to the touch pro because of the keyboard, SD Slot an flash light. I love this device.
By the way I also have the new Samsung Omnia 900 here and an unfun Nokia E71 ( I hate this old symbian - looks like last centuty )
So good night and thank you
Marcus
Jiggs1337 said:
Just a quick question, does any of this interfere with HTC released updated ROMs? Like, when they release a new version on their site, does having HardSPL prevent you from updating?
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no, raphael hardspl is unsigned, means any rom is allowed, including HTC official roms.
69reichertm said:
One more question:
Should I install Hard or Soft SPL ?
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you can only install hardspl. the job of soft spl is to install hardspl.
do not ever try any of the following:
- with SSPL, do not flash anything other than the included SPL NBH files. as extra protection the diamond and raphael SSPL's require htchacker sign (except the version jocky edited) and will reject anything that's not an SPL.
- and do not ever try to flash SSPL as an NBH, especially if it is a diamond or raphael.
Im sorry to disagree with your "don't tell me to use the Wiki".
But this is a fairly comprehensive answer to your question: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=SPL Questions? straight out the wiki.
Ta
Dave
When flashing a new ROM, do u lose all ur settings? Like installed programs, and other customizations?
Do you lose these by installing Hard-SPL?
Jiggs1337 said:
When flashing a new ROM, do u lose all ur settings? Like installed programs, and other customizations?
Do you lose these by installing Hard-SPL?
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Yes - Everything Goes.
No.
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Dave
Thanks Dave.
So what do you guys do? Just reinstall everything one by one after you've flashed the new ROM?
Jiggs1337 said:
Thanks Dave.
So what do you guys do? Just reinstall everything one by one after you've flashed the new ROM?
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There are several things.
UC is short for User Customisation; it is in all the Kaiser ROM's nowadays. l3v5y's Raph ROMs also have it.
Links: l3v5y's ROMs & Main UC Thread.
I use UC to install programs, Provisioning XML (as part of UC) to change registry settings, my xcopyce application to copy folders and active sync to copy contacts, calender etc.
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Dave
Ok, thanks. Seems very complicated. Having to write XML files and such.
when running RaphaelHardSPL-Unsigned_190_1_3.exe, it says all information will be lost on my device. Are you sure i dont lose everything when installing Hard-SPL?
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Ok, thanks. Seems very complicated. Having to write XML files and such.
when running RaphaelHardSPL-Unsigned_190_1_3.exe, it says all information will be lost on my device. Are you sure i dont lose everything when installing Hard-SPL?
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I can't say. I haven't done it, what says you will lose all the info, the RUU or the thread? If it's the RUU, then you should be OK, it's probably the standard message that the proper RUU (used for carrier ROM upgrades) has.
UC is good, takes maybe an hour or two to get setup, but once done, you don't have to do it again and it makes flashing so much fun. I started with just installing CAB's and Copying files, then went onto ProvXML for my registry settings next. The latest version of Schap's Advanced Config (3.0) can export tweaks into a Prov XML file for you. It is worth it if you flash your ROM as often as I do.
Dave
I do love this kind of stuff. Any new gadget i get, i like to do this kinda stuff with it. But its a little overwhelming in this case .
So, using UC, i can set it up so that my settings, such as email accounts, wifi networks + passes, notify settings, etc, as well as all the programs are restored after a ROM flash?
To do this i have to manually go through my registry to find the entries for each of these settings though? No way to just extract my current unflashed devices settings to a file that the new ROMs then use? That would be nice
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I do love this kind of stuff. Any new gadget i get, i like to do this kinda stuff with it. But its a little overwhelming in this case .
So, using UC, i can set it up so that my settings, such as email accounts, wifi networks + passes, notify settings, etc, as well as all the programs are restored after a ROM flash?
To do this i have to manually go through my registry to find the entries for each of these settings though? No way to just extract my current unflashed devices settings to a file that the new ROMs then use? That would be nice
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We are getting a little off topic of the OP now but...
Any tweaks done with schaps Advanced Config can be easiler exported using a "export" menu option.
If you export your registry after flashing, and again after you have all your settings setup right, you can Diff then using a Diff Program and copy the changes into your ProvXML file. Most PPC Regedit programs can export.
Any more on UC, I'd have a read of the UC thread and ask any questions in there. Myself and l3v5y keep and eye on it most of the time and should be able to help fairly quickly.
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Dave
Hello
So my Threat became quite interesting.
One last question foe me.
What File should I download to HARD SPL my Touch Pro.
Is there a file which includes all ? I mean I do not have to modify files inside the cabinet or so ?
Is there a fast link ?
Thank you for all the help - now lets start using the Touch - weekend is near
69reichertm said:
Hello
So my Threat became quite interesting.
One last question foe me.
What File should I download to HARD SPL my Touch Pro.
Is there a file which includes all ? I mean I do not have to modify files inside the cabinet or so ?
Is there a fast link ?
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lol, sure, there is only one package, and you simply click the EXE and it goes
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410150
Is it possible to use those backup softwares? Like Spb Backup for example that say "ROM Upgrade Mode — now it's possible to restore data after the ROM upgrade"? Instead of UC and such?
there is a IPL initial program loader (sort of bios)
a SPL secondary program loader (kinda like the ntloader)
and there is a service mode (3 color screen) (the flashprog)
then we have a RUU remote unit upgrader
mft masterfile table
mbr master boot record
and some other shizzle
the device switches the output of the internal usb when device is in 3 colorscreen to a service mode which allows it to overwrite the internal flashdrive .. pretty neat as what it actually does is switching to an internal flashprogrammer which programs the internal flashdrive. this is the same process as is used for your pc at home to update the bios.
the CID celloperator identification code (used for blocking certain rom upgrades)
enjoy..
Soft SPL quesiton
I have a SPV M700 and it's unlocked. I want to install Schaps rom. I have the folowing SPL version 1.07.000. I have't managed to install hard spl. Can I use soft spl to flash it? Can I permanently brake it?
I recently have found that to have a rom fit for my needs and to work properly with my exchange server settings, etc. that I need to rebuild roms (easier than starting from scratch). I am not planning on re-distributing them, they are mainly for my use, and others that use a specific exchange server setup like I do.
Anyway onto my main question:
Using the different tools I have found through Google and xda-developers, I have started to extract the radio nb file so that I can build a new NBH with the radio and the rom. I have also toyed with the idea to do the SPL into the NBH so that I don't have to worry if it has been flashed or not. I also will be flashing the roms from my microsd card (which I have been doing with my modified rom already).
Thank you in advance!
Putting an OS and a radio in a single NBH is perfectly acceptable. However, I don't think you can include Hard-SPL in there because it is flashed through SSPL, and it should really be the only thing flashed in that manner.
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Putting an OS and a radio in a single NBH is perfectly acceptable. However, I don't think you can include Hard-SPL in there because it is flashed through SSPL, and it should really be the only thing flashed in that manner.
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Got it, thanks for the quick reply too!
I noticed your signature, and saw that you have the rilphoneauto. I see an EXT and OEM type file, but I am only familiar with cooking in cabs and making minor entries. I wouldn't know where to begin to add in an OEM or EXT to the roms that I modify/re-cook.
They're basically directories with a slightly varied structure that you put in an appropriate kitchen directory and then select inside the kitchen UI. If you're using the new "visual" kitchen, you should use the EXT package; otherwise the OEM. There are tutorials all over the forums explaining how to use them. I'm probably not the best person to do it anyway since I've only been cooking for a little while