I have rooted my optimus one.
just wanna know which are d apps that are neCessary to remain in the phone memory.
so that i cn move rest to sd.
Widgets should remain in the phone memory. Everything else that doesn't run frequently should go to the SD card
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Widgets should remain in the phone memory. Everything else that doesn't run frequently should go to the SD card
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What about keyboards,go sms,maps n youtube??
Oh yea. I forgot about those. Keyboards and go sms. I think it's okay to move youtube and maps onto the sd card
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Oh yea. I forgot about those. Keyboards and go sms. I think it's okay to move youtube and maps onto the sd card
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K.
unable to move maps n youtube.
stil woried abt lockscreen n launchers.
Are you using the stock ROM? Apps that are in /system/app cannot be moved to the SD. If you installed it via downloading/installing from the market or somewhere else, you can move it.
Everything that feels like it should be launched no matter what or those that need to be started quickly on boot, keep it on the phone memory.
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Are you using the stock ROM? Apps that are in /system/app cannot be moved to the SD. If you installed it via downloading/installing from the market or somewhere else, you can move it.
Everything that feels like it should be launched no matter what or those that need to be started quickly on boot, keep it on the phone memory.
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Yeah. m on stock.
did move sum apps to sd via app 2 sd enabler.
Cmon guys I thougjt it was safe to move all sh#t to sd
It's safe. It's just that apps that need to be started on boot must be there as soon as it can. Read and write speeds on the SD card is much slower than on the phone memory.
Well he didnt ask for fast boot
It's not about fast booting It's about getting the things you need as fast as you can. For example, I need a widget to load as fast as it can since it has to be there as soon as the phone boots. That was my point
Everything that you don't use everyday move to SDcard (if possible). If you move favourite apps to SD and you acces them all day long you will shorten the SDcard's life.
I have void with a2sd enabled. So all user applications are on sd. Can I use titanium backup to move some apps to internal memory?
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I have void with a2sd enabled. So all user applications are on sd. Can I use titanium backup to move some apps to internal memory?
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I used Titanium to move a lot of stuff over to the SD from Internal... Stuff in the /system directory doesn't affect your phone's "Internal Storage Space" as reported in the Settings menu since /data and /system are separate partitions. Apart from /system apps, the only thing that I would want to move to the SD that it couldn't move was the PayPal App from the app-private location. Going into ADB wouldn't allow me to do it either.
Titanium also allowed me to uninstall a bunch of the **** that came installed like game demos. This did not free up additional storage space, with the exception of what it removed from Dalvik-Cache. Which, btw is going to be your biggest issue... Some ROM's allow you to move this to the /cache partition, but this is a relatively small partition (~56MB) on this phone and my Dalvik-Cache currently takes up ~90MB.
Pls reply here guys.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=941156
I use app 2 sd to move everything I dont need frequently on SD, than just long press on those program from app 2 sd and Open them.
It's a bit tricky and I dont know other ways (on the home screen most of SD apps wont appear...) but I never had slow opening and the like
Everything was ok till xtesterday.
today i rebooted ma cell,
and all d apps disappeared of sd.
though sd is accessible via file manager,gallery.
i tried formattingsd,cell reset.
bt all in vain.
cant install from file manager.
cant even install from market.
even unable to unmount ma card.
any solution???
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I used Titanium to move a lot of stuff over to the SD from Internal... Stuff in the /system directory doesn't affect your phone's "Internal Storage Space" as reported in the Settings menu since /data and /system are separate partitions. Apart from /system apps, the only thing that I would want to move to the SD that it couldn't move was the PayPal App from the app-private location. Going into ADB wouldn't allow me to do it either.
Titanium also allowed me to uninstall a bunch of the **** that came installed like game demos. This did not free up additional storage space, with the exception of what it removed from Dalvik-Cache. Which, btw is going to be your biggest issue... Some ROM's allow you to move this to the /cache partition, but this is a relatively small partition (~56MB) on this phone and my Dalvik-Cache currently takes up ~90MB.
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I used Titanium again and used it to incorporate the updated GApps into the ROM. I knew that I had about 56MB free on the system partition. Putting Gmail, Maps, Street view, Market and anything else that I could find freed 30MB on the data partition.
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Hey! I have a fast, dumb, question! What does each partition do? I wanna partition my new SD card through amon_ra 1.5.2 and it says swap size, ext2 and FAT32 size... what's what! and whats the recommended for an 8gb card class 4
swap is not needed necessarily, it is used to store stuff when ram is going low. fat32 is the part where your music, pictures etc are stored (the part that gets mounted on your pc when you want to copy files), and ext2 is the part where apps2sd stores the apps.
ext2 (or 3 or 4) and fat32 are the filesystems that are created on the partitions, that is why they are called this.
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swap is not needed necessarily, it is used to store stuff when ram is going low. fat32 is the part where your music, pictures etc are stored (the part that gets mounted on your pc when you want to copy files), and ext2 is the part where apps2sd stores the apps.
ext2 (or 3 or 4) and fat32 are the filesystems that are created on the partitions, that is why they are called this.
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i have 1028Ext2, 128swap and the rest is fat32! is that ok?
Shei77 said:
i have 1028Ext2, 128swap and the rest is fat32! is that ok?
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not sure about the order, but basically yes. you don't need swap, and your ext is probably big enough for >3000 apps (read: too big), but as long as you are happy you can leave it that way.
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not sure about the order, but basically yes. you don't need swap, and your ext is probably big enough for >3000 apps (read: too big), but as long as you are happy you can leave it that way.
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really?Lol!
btw are apps supposed to take any "space"? In Modaco 2.9 i lost some internal space on all the apps i installed? is it supposed to take some memory from 100mbs of my htc hero internal memory?If yes, how to remove it, if not, omg modaco 2.9 was bad?
Also is having like 1000 apps making my phone slower? I dont actually have that many, i have 60 i think, if i remove some will it make it any faster?
Also, if i change my ext2 now to like 500mb will it delete any of my current apps or "break" anything?
apps take space from internal memory, search for "apps2sd not working", it is explained in these threads more than enough. you can move the dalvik-cache to the ext partition, then you won't loose any internal space. doesn't seem necessary, i have about 280 apps installed and still 16mb internal left. having the apps does not slow down the phone, only extends the time for first boot after flashing. apps only make the phone slower when they are running, which i control with autostarts.
if you change the ext size partition your apps will be deleted, as will be the rest of the contents of the sdcard. there ways to do it without deleting anything, but frankly, when you need to ask it would be too complicated. would be more effort than make a backup, copy the contents of your sdcard to pc, repartition, copy contents back and restore the backup. that's the way to go btw.
if you uninstalled some/a lot of apps you can regain a few mb by deleting dalvik-cache from recovery. first boot after that may take a while.
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apps take space from internal memory, search for "apps2sd not working", it is explained in these threads more than enough. you can move the dalvik-cache to the ext partition, then you won't loose any internal space. doesn't seem necessary, i have about 280 apps installed and still 16mb internal left. having the apps does not slow down the phone, only extends the time for first boot after flashing. apps only make the phone slower when they are running, which i control with autostarts.
if you change the ext size partition your apps will be deleted, as will be the rest of the contents of the sdcard. there ways to do it without deleting anything, but frankly, when you need to ask it would be too complicated. would be more effort than make a backup, copy the contents of your sdcard to pc, repartition, copy contents back and restore the backup. that's the way to go btw.
if you uninstalled some/a lot of apps you can regain a few mb by deleting dalvik-cache from recovery. first boot after that may take a while.
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so apps shouldnt take ANY internal memory? if they do i should move dalvik-cache from amon_ra or apps2sd?
autostarts btw?
how to remove dalvik-cache from uninstalled apps? aint it supposed to be auto-deleted when i uninstall apps?
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so apps shouldnt take ANY internal memory? if they do i should move dalvik-cache from amon_ra or apps2sd?
autostarts btw?
how to remove dalvik-cache from uninstalled apps? aint it supposed to be auto-deleted when i uninstall apps?
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they are supposed to take internal space, because they use some space from dalvik-cache. if you move the dalvik-cache to the ext partition of the sdcard then the space is not taken from the internal memory but from the sdcard, obviously...
check the market, with autostarts you can stop applications from being started automatically.
like i said, clear dalvik-cache in recovery image via the menu item and then wait a few minutes for the phone to reboot...
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they are supposed to take internal space, because they use some space from dalvik-cache. if you move the dalvik-cache to the ext partition of the sdcard then the space is not taken from the internal memory but from the sdcard, obviously...
check the market, with autostarts you can stop applications from being started automatically.
like i said, clear dalvik-cache in recovery image via the menu item and then wait a few minutes for the phone to reboot...
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may i ask, how can i move the dalvik-cache to my SD card? i actually want my apps to take NO memory AT ALL on my internal memory..
Guys I need some clarification around app2sd or indeed apps2sd, apps2sd+ etc etc...
Basically whats the differnece? I know some versions only allow certain apps to be moved buts whats the apps2sd+ method ? and how do I go about getting it ?
I dont have masses amounts of apps but my current method (app2sd) only allows certain apps to be moved....I want to move all and app data if poss ?!
cheers in advance
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Guys I need some clarification around app2sd or indeed apps2sd, apps2sd+ etc etc...
Basically whats the differnece? I know some versions only allow certain apps to be moved buts whats the apps2sd+ method ? and how do I go about getting it ?
I dont have masses amounts of apps but my current method (app2sd) only allows certain apps to be moved....I want to move all and app data if poss ?!
cheers in advance
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I am not aware of any apps + data to SD. I must ask though, why are you so keen to move stuff off /data?
Remember that there is no advantage in having lots of free /data space, so you're better making use of it. If you have so many apps that you need the space, then look at apps2sd and dalvik2cache or dalvik2sd, since that stores the dalvik cache onto the SD card too.
Also, what method are you using? You should be using the EXT method rather than the froyo method, as that stores all apps on the SD card, and doesn't listen to the developer's preference about storage.
I don't know what apps2sd+ is that you talk about though, as I don't recognise the term. Do you mean apps2sd + dalvik or something like that?
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I am not aware of any apps + data to SD. I must ask though, why are you so keen to move stuff off /data?
Remember that there is no advantage in having lots of free /data space, so you're better making use of it. If you have so many apps that you need the space, then look at apps2sd and dalvik2cache or dalvik2sd, since that stores the dalvik cache onto the SD card too.
Also, what method are you using? You should be using the EXT method rather than the froyo method, as that stores all apps on the SD card, and doesn't listen to the developer's preference about storage.
I don't know what apps2sd+ is that you talk about though, as I don't recognise the term. Do you mean apps2sd + dalvik or something like that?
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Yeah sorry mate its probably my inexperience on all things android showing here....
Basically Im using the EXT method, 0 swap, 512 ext3 and rest Fat32 i think? coupled with the sam lu version of app2sd and tbh its fine its just I received the latest update for it which now shows which apps are 'phone only' so only really came to light recently....
I currently only have 11 apps 'on SD' with 37 on 'phone only' (maybe 55 apps in total) and wondered if this was normal ? or have I set something up wrong ? Phone memory shows 104.58mb free from 165.75mb....
So approx 1 in 4 apps are being moved to sd shall we say (please dont shoot me other the maths either lol)...surely im going run out space within the next 100 apps if 50 apps to date has used approx 60mb (cant see it happening though as i dont see myself installing that many) or is the majority of the used data used for other processes ?
Just trying to get my head around the whole thing thats all....and was wondering if you could realistically have 200+ apps as mentioned in multiple threads.
And as for the apps2sd+ maybe that was an error in the way i read/interpreted a thread so ignore it....
Irrespective everything works fine, was just curious thats all
Hold on... can you check, as I think your apps are all being held on the SD card just now.
Using a file browser, go to /system/sd and check out the app folder. Compare the contents with /data/app and see if it matches.
Remember the dalvik cache and data use up space, so dalvik2cache or dalvik 2 sd should be next on your list if you want hundreds of apps.
I think you are just getting told apps are on phone when they are on SD, since android can't tell when you are using this apps2sd method or not
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Hold on... can you check, as I think your apps are all being held on the SD card just now.
Using a file browser, go to /system/sd and check out the app folder. Compare the contents with /data/app and see if it matches.
Remember the dalvik cache and data use up space, so dalvik2cache or dalvik 2 sd should be next on your list if you want hundreds of apps.
I think you are just getting told apps are on phone when they are on SD, since android can't tell when you are using this apps2sd method or not
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edit - Right I must have seriously done some thing wrong here? using astro to check /system/sd is empty and there is no /app folder fullstop within /data ? WTF?!
I have just flashed FoydVillain 1.5 but have since restored all apps and got back to a point where I was when I subbed this post...blagged !
Ive gone back to the drawing board and revisited the 'newbie guide to rooting' thread and doubled checked the apps2sd instructions, I want to run the gscript check to see if its set up right but cant find the check.zip file thats mentioned in the guide (says its attached at bottom?! but I cant locate it) where can I get it from otherwise?
cheers
Use the vr wiki article to get the script. Click wiki and search apps2sd.
Did you use a file browser with root BTW?
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Use the vr wiki article to get the script. Click wiki and search apps2sd.
Did you use a file browser with root BTW?
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Cheers Ill have a look today....
Can you expand on 'a file browser with root' though please, I have a file browser and root access but not sure what you mean....
Ta mate
Sent from my HTC Hero using XDA App
Ive managed to run the check script through gscript and apps2sd is working but without dalvik-cache but at least its a start....will now look at sorting that cheers pulser!
Goofy problem but every rom I have tried will not update tweetdeck properly in the background with the screen black, except for xtrsense. Even the original stock rom does not work properly at doing this. Has anyone else had the same problem? Is there a fix?
I would love to be able to go to one of the 2.2 or 2.3 roms but i need tweetdeck to update properly on my accounts.
Side question - will there be a 2.2 or 2.3 for xtrsense?
Side question 2 - I am going to be searching for this but figured i would throw it in just incase I can not figure it out. I loaded the gscript for the apps2sd but I cant get any apps to the sd card. It is not even an option when I go to the manage apps. Like I said, I am going to search for this one but while I was typing I figured I would throw it in.
Tweetdeck is one of my key apps and I have no trouble at all with it on CELB Froyo or GSB. The only ROM I had an issue with was a later version of Nonsensikal. For some reason, that had an Autokiller-like aggressive memory setting and Tweetdeck would not stay open in the background.
Unlike many other twitter clients, Tweetdeck has no way to autostart and seems to have no server component to get updates, and aggressive memory settings will close the app when it is in the background. If you are using autokiller or something like it, using the optimum preset seems to work pretty well. Just vanilla GSB settings are just fine.
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Side question - will there be a 2.2 or 2.3 for xtrsense?
Side question 2 - I am going to be searching for this but figured i would throw it in just incase I can not figure it out. I loaded the gscript for the apps2sd but I cant get any apps to the sd card. It is not even an option when I go to the manage apps. Like I said, I am going to search for this one but while I was typing I figured I would throw it in.
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Gscript for Apps2SD? I never heard of a GScript for that capability. There's an Apps2SD flashable zip which adds the Apps2SD script to your phone, if that's what you're talking about, but you don't use it in GScript.
Technically and completely literally, there never can be a 2.2 or 2.3 version of xtrSENSE because xtrSENSE is (currently) based on the July OTA 2.1, so it's a heavily modified version of THE official ROM for the Eris. There is no official 2.2 or 2.3 for the Eris, so there's no 2.2 or 2.3 stock ROM with Sense to base a new Eris ROM on.
Devs have worked on 2.2 and 2.3-based Sense ROMs based on stuff from other phones, but none of them are as stable and "finished" as the original stock ROM, or even xtrSENSE. Things don't work such as Wifi and Camera, and possibly some other difficulties. They haven't given up but they've been beating their heads against the wall for months for Froyo Sense. At this point, there's probably a marginally better chance that we'll ever have a port of a Gingerbread Sense which has everything working, over Froyo Sense.
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Tweetdeck is one of my key apps and I have no trouble at all with it on CELB Froyo or GSB. The only ROM I had an issue with was a later version of Nonsensikal. For some reason, that had an Autokiller-like aggressive memory setting and Tweetdeck would not stay open in the background.
Unlike many other twitter clients, Tweetdeck has no way to autostart and seems to have no server component to get updates, and aggressive memory settings will close the app when it is in the background. If you are using autokiller or something like it, using the optimum preset seems to work pretty well. Just vanilla GSB settings are just fine.
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I use advanced app killer but i do not let that run all the time, I just start it when I want to manually kill apps.
It is just so weird with tweetdeck not updating in the background right, except on xtrsense. I just dont get it
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Gscript for Apps2SD? I never heard of a GScript for that capability. There's an Apps2SD flashable zip which adds the Apps2SD script to your phone, if that's what you're talking about, but you don't use it in GScript.
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Yes, he has a gscript script built in to xtrsense that you can just load and run to do it.
I will have to redo my sdcard again and see if that fixes it. I still like how 2.3 lets you move the apps though. It is a WHOLE lot easier.
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Side question 2 - I am going to be searching for this but figured i would throw it in just incase I can not figure it out. I loaded the gscript for the apps2sd but I cant get any apps to the sd card. It is not even an option when I go to the manage apps. Like I said, I am going to search for this one but while I was typing I figured I would throw it in.
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That's not how it works with xtrSENSE. With xtrSENSE, you first need to partition your SD card to add an ext3 partition to store your apps. Then, as you noted, you run a gscript to activate apps2sd. This will move *all* of your user apps to the ext partition - you cannot choose to keep some internal. You either have your apps internal and not on SD, or you have your apps on SD and not internal.
The original post in the xtrSENSE thread explains this pretty well. The relevant portions are here:
Apps2sd and Cache2sd:
I have revamped my implementation of apps2sd to use simpler and better organized scripts. For apps2sd to work you must first complete the listed prerequisites and it is a good idea to read through the "things you may want to know about apps2sd" section. Although it can provide gobs of space for apps, Apps2sd is not for everyone as it ties the stability of your phone to your SD card... If you do not need the space I would recommend that you keep the default of DISABLED; if you want to try you can always disable it again however there is always the chance of issues.
To enable/disable apps2sd and cache2sd just run the appropriate GScript and reboot your phone (Quick Boot makes this easy!).
Prerequisites
If you have not setup your SD card (for those new to Apps2sd) as per tkirton:
BACKUP YOUR SD CARD TO YOUR COMPUTER. Can't stress this enough, as partitioning will wipe the entire card.
Reboot into recovery
In Android System Recovery, select Partition sdcard
In the Partition sdcard menu, select Partition SD
Follow the instructions on the phone to partition your SD card. Most folks seem to recommend using the default values however you can go larger or smaller use values 256, 512,768,1024. You will also be asked to set a swap size; I stayed at 32mb (anticipate future ROM options to allow moving swap to sd)
Once the partition is initially created you must then convert to ext3 - In the Partition sdcard menu, select SD:ext2 to ext3. Follow the instructions on the screen.
Press the back button on the phone to go back to the main menu.
Your SD card is now ready to work with an Apps2sd supported ROM.
Things you may want to know about apps2sd
Bootloop protection is built in if your SD card is corrupted or is removed from the phone with Apps2sd enabled. Your apps will go away but your phone will boot .
There are 3 subsets of data associated to an app when it is installed and run on your phone.
1) /data/app/ (and /data/app-private) - actual .apk files we think of as the applications that are not system apps (i.e. installed on /system/app)
2) /data/data/ - the files produced by ALL apps (system apps and market apps) during installation that are used by the Android system to run the app
3)/data/dalvik-cache/ - app cache file and work space for ALL apps (system apps and market apps).
From root explorer (or similar) you can browse to the /data/app OR the /system/sd/app folders and you will see the same thing, both will tell you how much space you have used and have left. The way apps2sd works is by "linking" the /system/sd/app to the /data/app folder so that the Android system thinks it is accessing the /data/app it is really at /system/sd/app.
I have seen using Apps2sd cause issues with some.zip flash updates as they try to write directly to the /data/app folder which no longer "physically" exists
If you get into a bootloop issue using apps2sd boot into amon_ra recovery and try one of the follow:
1) from the Other menu option select the Fix apk uid mismatches
2) from the Wipe menu option complete a)Wipe data/factory reset b)Wipe Dalvik-cache c)Wipe SD:ext partition
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When you run the apps2sd or cache2sd script, upon reboot, it will move ALL your existing apps or cache to the sd card ext partition and ALL future apps and cache will be installed and stored on the sd card ext partition.
Running the apps2internal or cache2internal script, upon reboot, it will move ALL your existing apps or cache to the /data block of internal storage and ALL futures apps and cache will be stored in internal storage.
With HTC based ROMs it is all or nothing and you cannot move individual apps like in the CyanogenMod ROMs.
So how do I know Apps2sd is on? - You can run the GScript report_system_stats which will give you a printout of what fileblocks are used as well as a “true/false” value for Apps2sd On. You can also go to menu>Settings>Sd card and phone storage - when on space available under Available storage will go down at a VERY slow rate when new apps are installed.
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KnightRid said:
I use advanced app killer but i do not let that run all the time, I just start it when I want to manually kill apps.
It is just so weird with tweetdeck not updating in the background right, except on xtrsense. I just dont get it
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It works fine for me on xtrSENSE. Try uninstalling advanced app killer for a while and see if tweetdeck works better. Also, run the gscript set_memory_balanced or set_memory_stock. I have had Tweetdeck work just fine in xtrSENSE4.6.5 with both of those settings.
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That's not how it works with xtrSENSE. With xtrSENSE, you first need to partition your SD card to add an ext3 partition to store your apps. Then, as you noted, you run a gscript to activate apps2sd. This will move *all* of your user apps to the ext partition - you cannot choose to keep some internal. You either have your apps internal and not on SD, or you have your apps on SD and not internal.
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I did not explain well, I did do that but the apps still would not move over. I thought i had to manually move the apps after the ext3 partition and such but there must be something little I am missing. I will go back through the steps again and see what happens. I still like how 2.2 and 2.3 move the apps a lot better and I wish xtrsense would be based on 2.2 or 2.3
As for tweetdeck, it DOES work right in xtrsense just not in any other rom even the stock rom.
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I did not explain well, I did do that but the apps still would not move over. I thought i had to manually move the apps after the ext3 partition and such but there must be something little I am missing.
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When you run that gscript that I highlighted above (report_system_stats), does it say that you have apps2sd enabled? If it does, then you do. After you partition your card and run the gscript to enable apps2sd (called apps2sd), there is nothing that you need to do manually - the apps will move to SD. All new apps that you install will go to SD. You cannot pick and choose - apps are either on SD or internal.
I will go back through the steps again and see what happens. I still like how 2.2 and 2.3 move the apps a lot better and I wish xtrsense would be based on 2.2 or 2.3
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To be honest, I think that this method is better. For one thing, you can back up your ext partition on your SD card; unless you use Clockwork, you cannot backup .android_secure. Also, when you connect your SD card to your computer, it dismounts the SD card from the phone, making those apps unavailable until you re-mount the SD card to the phone. Because you cannot dismount the ext3 partition (without trying really hard, that is), your apps are always available. Widgets can run from those apps. Lastly, there is no this app is internal, that app is on SD - they are either all on SD or they are not. Plus, of course, you don't have to move apps one at a time.
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When you run that gscript that I highlighted above (report_system_stats), does it say that you have apps2sd enabled? If it does, then you do. After you partition your card and run the gscript to enable apps2sd (called apps2sd), there is nothing that you need to do manually - the apps will move to SD. All new apps that you install will go to SD. You cannot pick and choose - apps are either on SD or internal.
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Yea, it just doesnt move anything for some reason - Really isnt that big of a deal just would be nice with me being a packrat for everything so I wouldnt have to uninstall as often lol
Thanx for the help!
I am still wishing and hoping for xtrsense based on 2.2 or 2.3 though =)
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That's not how it works with xtrSENSE. With xtrSENSE, you first need to partition your SD card to add an ext3 partition to store your apps. Then, as you noted, you run a gscript to activate apps2sd. This will move *all* of your user apps to the ext partition - you cannot choose to keep some internal. You either have your apps internal and not on SD, or you have your apps on SD and not internal.
The original post in the xtrSENSE thread explains this pretty well. The relevant portions are here:
Note the parts that I bolded.
It works fine for me on xtrSENSE. Try uninstalling advanced app killer for a while and see if tweetdeck works better. Also, run the gscript set_memory_balanced or set_memory_stock. I have had Tweetdeck work just fine in xtrSENSE4.6.5 with both of those settings.
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There's an app called Link2SD which allows you to use old-school Apps2SD with the ability to only move what you want to move. Haven't tried it but reports are positive about it. Creates symlinks or some such for individual apps instead of for the whole data/app folder at once.
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When you run that gscript that I highlighted above (report_system_stats), does it say that you have apps2sd enabled? If it does, then you do. After you partition your card and run the gscript to enable apps2sd (called apps2sd), there is nothing that you need to do manually - the apps will move to SD. All new apps that you install will go to SD. You cannot pick and choose - apps are either on SD or internal.
To be honest, I think that this method is better. For one thing, you can back up your ext partition on your SD card; unless you use Clockwork, you cannot backup .android_secure. Also, when you connect your SD card to your computer, it dismounts the SD card from the phone, making those apps unavailable until you re-mount the SD card to the phone. Because you cannot dismount the ext3 partition (without trying really hard, that is), your apps are always available. Widgets can run from those apps. Lastly, there is no this app is internal, that app is on SD - they are either all on SD or they are not. Plus, of course, you don't have to move apps one at a time.
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There's a couple of apps on the market, Dual Mount SD (used to be called SD Share, I think) and Multi Mount SD, which now, not only allow you to mount your SD card to both your computer and your phone at the same time, they also both have the option to auto-mount your SD card to your computer when you plug it in to the USB cable, which is now what I do. Multi Mount SD had that feature first, Dual Mount SD copied it just recently.
Also, Titanium Backup (paid, don't know about the free version) will allow you to batch move as many apps as you like to and from the SD card.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
There's a couple of apps on the market, Dual Mount SD (used to be called SD Share, I think) and Multi Mount SD, which now, not only allow you to mount your SD card to both your computer and your phone at the same time, they also both have the option to auto-mount your SD card to your computer when you plug it in to the USB cable, which is now what I do. Multi Mount SD had that feature first, Dual Mount SD copied it just recently.
Also, Titanium Backup (paid, don't know about the free version) will allow you to batch move as many apps as you like to and from the SD card.
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Good to know, but I still like the "old school" apps2sd kludge more than the official kludge that Google added with Froyo. I've had more problems with apps2sd (when I tried it) with Froyo than I ever had with xtrROM before cache2cache was added to that ROM.
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Good to know, but I still like the "old school" apps2sd kludge more than the official kludge that Google added with Froyo. I've had more problems with apps2sd (when I tried it) with Froyo than I ever had with xtrROM before cache2cache was added to that ROM.
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The absolutely only thing I don't like about, now that Link2SD is out, is that it's difficult to use the old Apps2SD under Froyo and beyond, requiring special partitioning arrangements, concerning where the particular partitions are and making it difficult to mount all the Fat32 partitions to both the phone and the computer, unless there's been progress in those areas I haven't been made aware of.
Even though there's some things which won't move to the SD card in a friendly way with Froyo's move to SD, almost everything will move if you use an app such as Titanium Backup to move them. As I said, there's still some apps it won't move but it moves almost all of them for me. I guess I wouldn't like it if I was stuck with Google implementation of it, but as long as there are third party apps to make up what it's lacking, it works great for me.
I also like that since I "only" have an 8GB SD card, that I don't have to partition it, the apps that are moved to SD will only take up as much space as they need to, no partition with space that'll never get used because I want it at least large enough to cover my worst case scenarios.
Off topic, it's unbelievable how much "crap" I get on my SD card, from all the apps I've stopped using but never deleted any respective folders for from the card. Mostly because I replaced the app with something better.
hello, noobs here! i just want to ask how can i set up app2sd on my galaxy ace. im using jusada's ICS right now, and i heard that rom support darktremor A2SD enabled, so my assumption is, i just partitioning my SD card, so the rest will working by itself.
now i have partitioned my SDCARD, but when i restart my phone, it didnt happend and still the same, even my sdcard memory decrease.
so my question is:
how to set it correctly?
thanks! (and sorry for my bad english )
Why don't you use s2e
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scoffyburito said:
Why don't you use s2e
AOKP 4 LYF
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just make sure that my rom is doing right without app2sd apk
Look into my signature for the link pointing to SuperAce609's tutorial. I implemented that trick of S2E in ICsunday by Jusada and it really worked. I had more than 125 apps installed with more than 110MB free space.
Rushyang said:
Look into my signature for the link pointing to SuperAce609's tutorial. I implemented that trick of S2E in ICsunday by Jusada and it really worked. I had more than 125 apps installed with more than 110MB free space.
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thanks but i think i found something on manage application menu. go to Settings > applications > manage applications, then tap the SD Card menu, just choose the application you want to move to memory card.
whats the diferent between this and s2e?
kindroid said:
thanks but i think i found something on manage application menu. go to Settings > applications > manage applications, then tap the SD Card menu, just choose the application you want to move to memory card.
whats the diferent between this and s2e?
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The big difference between what you're doing and what I'm doing is..
1) Your trick is totally manual. Means, you will have to move each application one by one to the SDCard & also from what you're moving apps to sdcard, will leave "some" data (esp dalvik cache) of that app in actual device memory. So you won't have the full advantage of moving an app. You will have some saturation point at some time.. like even if all of your apps were moved to SDcard and you have about ~60 apps installed, but each app will leave some data to your device memory. & That's why at some point your device memory will get full.
While in mine (using S2E), I have created a partition which totally works like a built-in memory. Whatever I install, ALL gets automatically installed in that partition. which actually saves a lot more actual device memory.
2) You can not move Widget supporting app to the SDCard. It won't work.
While in mine, Everything in that 1GB partition can work even as a Widgets too. Which again means totally functioning as a device memory.
3) I also observed that, when I connect my SGA with computer through USB Mass Storage (Which actually gives more transfer speeds than adb push commands), all my apps which saved in 1GB partition stay active completely. So it takes a lot less time while scanning SDCard for media after removing from USB mass storage.
Rushyang said:
The big difference between what you're doing and what I'm doing is..
1) Your trick is totally manual. Means, you will have to move each application one by one to the SDCard & also from what you're moving apps to sdcard, will leave "some" data (esp dalvik cache) of that app in actual device memory. So you won't have the full advantage of moving an app. You will have some saturation point at some time.. like even if all of your apps were moved to SDcard and you have about ~60 apps installed, but each app will leave some data to your device memory. & That's why at some point your device memory will get full.
While in mine (using S2E), I have created a partition which totally works like a built-in memory. Whatever I install, ALL gets automatically installed in that partition. which actually saves a lot more actual device memory.
2) You can not move Widget supporting app to the SDCard. It won't work.
While in mine, Everything in that 1GB partition can work even as a Widgets too. Which again means totally functioning as a device memory.
3) I also observed that, when I connect my SGA with computer through USB Mass Storage (Which actually gives more transfer speeds than adb push commands), all my apps which saved in 1GB partition stay active completely. So it takes a lot less time while scanning SDCard for media after removing from USB mass storage.
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nice info! now i'm using S2E too, but still did'nt understand because my internal memory phone keep reduced.
also i want to ask, what would happen if i mount the SDCARD? and can i fully backup my apps via titanium backup with this?
why dont try this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18561098
using this i got 1gb internal memory, while booting is not as long when using darktremore a2sd or s2e
kindroid said:
hello, noobs here! i just want to ask how can i set up app2sd on my galaxy ace. im using jusada's ICS right now, and i heard that rom support darktremor A2SD enabled, so my assumption is, i just partitioning my SD card, so the rest will working by itself.
now i have partitioned my SDCARD, but when i restart my phone, it didnt happend and still the same, even my sdcard memory decrease.
so my question is:
how to set it correctly?
thanks! (and sorry for my bad english )
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Why don't you just try making your life easier and check out the thread in my signature?
an0nym0us_ said:
why dont try this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18561098
using this i got 1gb internal memory, while booting is not as long when using darktremore a2sd or s2e
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ok ill try for it
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Why don't you just try making your life easier and check out the thread in my signature?
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right now i'm using S2E, but my question is, what would happen if i mount the SDCARD? and can i fully backup my apps via titanium backup with this?
and then i still did'nt understand because my internal memory phone keep reduced.
Well, i tested this for some roms and its the same on all of them:
if i move apps that are app2sd-capable by native to sd (via settings -> apps), they work fine, they are still there after reboot.
but if i move apps (app2sd-capable by native or not) via link2sd (yes, moving via link2sd, NOT LINKING!!) or titanium backup, they are all there and working, but after doing a reboot
they're gone.
anyone else experiencing this? what can i do to resolve that? :silly:
realCyphox said:
Well, i tested this for some roms and its the same on all of them:
if i move apps that are app2sd-capable by native to sd (via settings -> apps), they work fine, they are still there after reboot.
but if i move apps (app2sd-capable by native or not) via link2sd or titanium backup, they are all there and working, but after doing a reboot
they're gone.
anyone else experiencing this? what can i do to resolve that? :silly:
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Why are you using a2sd? This device has enough memory.
To answer your question: The a2sd scripts are meant for Android 2.3.3- or low-end devices. It's likely it won't work
enough memory? well, not for me
im talking about the "most normal" method of moving apps to sd, via settings -> apps -> move app to sd
this works.
but doing so via link2sd or titanium backup doesnt after performing a rebooot.
and im pretty sure i did so (via link2sd) on some other ics-driven devices i owned so im just wondering why it wont work on the dx?
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enough memory? well, not for me
im talking about the "most normal" method of moving apps to sd, via settings -> apps -> move app to sd
this works.
but doing so via link2sd or titanium backup doesnt after performing a rebooot.
and im pretty sure i did so (via link2sd) on some other ics-driven devices i owned so im just wondering why it wont work on the dx?
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Are they really gone, or do they just not work?
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enough memory? well, not for me
im talking about the "most normal" method of moving apps to sd, via settings -> apps -> move app to sd
this works.
but doing so via link2sd or titanium backup doesnt after performing a rebooot.
and im pretty sure i did so (via link2sd) on some other ics-driven devices i owned so im just wondering why it wont work on the dx?
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Well, I'm not sure what you are doing with your phone but I have 50+ apps on it, 10+ games and some of them really big (like Real Racing 2 and NFS MW), none of them moved on sd card and I have 400mb of free space.
MaartenXDA said:
Are they really gone, or do they just not work?
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they are gone from the app drawer and in settings -> apps they are greyed out and have this standard-android-symbol as icon.
when i check via titanium backup they are also not there, but titanium backup finds orphan data to delete, which are virtually useless remains from
those "former installed apps" if you wanna call them that
@nlooooo
its just about having the option do so. i had that on my previous phones and i would love to have that on the dx.
well, im thinking about using "normal" app2sd for apps that are movable natively and link2sd + sd-ext partition for apps that are not movable natively
i know its weird, but i like to keep my data partition as clean as possible
realCyphox said:
they are gone from the app drawer and in settings -> apps they are greyed out and have this standard-android-symbol as icon.
when i check via titanium backup they are also not there, but titanium backup finds orphan data to delete, which are virtually useless remains from
those "former installed apps" if you wanna call them that
@nlooooo
its just about having the option do so. i had that on my previous phones and i would love to have that on the dx.
well, im thinking about using "normal" app2sd for apps that are movable natively and link2sd + sd-ext partition for apps that are not movable natively
i know its weird, but i like to keep my data partition as clean as possible
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You have to accept the fact that using link2sd and symlinking will slow down your phone.
I doesn't work because of /system write protection, so all sylinks made when phone is booted are deleted when phone is restarted, If you're able to make those symlinks in recovery it will work. You can try with script that disables write protection, but I'm still not sure why would you need any a2sd scrip.
While I had Desire I used a2sd scripts, but when I bought Incredible S I didn't have any need to use them anymore. The same is with DesX.
nlooooo said:
You have to accept the fact that using link2sd and symlinking will slow down your phone.
I doesn't work because of /system write protection, so all sylinks made when phone is booted are deleted when phone is restarted, If you're able to make those symlinks in recovery it will work. You can try with script that disables write protection, but I'm still not sure why would you need any a2sd scrip.
While I had Desire I used a2sd scripts, but when I bought Incredible S I didn't have any need to use them anymore. The same is with DesX.
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apps moving to sd-ext works fine when using the write protection patch, tested that before, worked fine till i screwed my rom up because of some other stuff.
my problem is moving apps to sd, not linking them to a second sd-partition. i mean, if i move apps to sd via titanium even the apps that are definitely movable by "oldschool" app2sd are gone. thats the weirdest part i dont get.
so moving apps to sd via link2sd or titanium has to work somewhat different than doing so via apps -> settings or any "standard" app2sd app available in the market, doesnt it?
realCyphox said:
apps moving to sd-ext works fine when using the write protection patch, tested that before, worked fine till i screwed my rom up because of some other stuff.
my problem is moving apps to sd, not linking them to a second sd-partition. i mean, if i move apps to sd via titanium even the apps that are definitely movable by "oldschool" app2sd are gone. thats the weirdest part i dont get.
so moving apps to sd via link2sd or titanium has to work somewhat different than doing so via apps -> settings or any "standard" app2sd app available in the market, doesnt it?
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I've never used titanium for that, but link2sd is moving them to sd-ext, creating symlinks, that's why that's not working. Using native app2sd from OS moves only .apk files to .android_secure folder on fat32 partition of sd card.
nlooooo said:
I've never used titanium for that, but link2sd is moving them to sd-ext, creating symlinks, that's why that's not working. Using native app2sd from OS moves only .apk files to .android_secure folder on fat32 partition of sd card.
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no no, link2sd can move apps2sd OR/AND (if you have a second partition on your sdcard) can link them to sd-ext. it can do BOTH.
and as i said, LINKING apps works just fine when using the write-protection patch. but moving apps to "normal sd card partition" doesnt.
I have this problem before when using link2sd on my old phone.
Your second partition might be corrupt.
On which ext u created the second partition?
There are two you can choose, ext2 or ext3. If you created the second partition on ext3, when u open up the link2sd app choose ext3 at the first time, then all the apps u partitioned/linked on ext3will be visible again.
Ps. I don't think desire x need link2sd as 1gb is really a lot! Trust me u don't need it.
Sent from my HTC Desire X using xda app-developers app
again: i'm talking about moving (NOT LINKING) apps. link2sd can do that. and i have no second partition on my sdcard right now.
edited the first post and i hope noone will talk about linking apps anymore