To flash a ROM from this forum, the instructions say download the ROM and push to SD card.
Would I be right in saying that I do not need to use my PC to do this, ie
- download from an internet browser on my phone
- use a file management app to move the files to the sd card on the phone?
I get the impression it needs to be done using your PC but don't understand why.
I think that they're just stressing out that the file (ROM, for this instance) has to be in the root folder of the SD card. You can do it any way you like. You can get the file via bluetooth from another phone, etc. What matters is that it's in the SD card root directory, because the custom recovery only looks for it there.
Yep, you are right. A pc is completely unnecessary for the pure flashing process.
In the guides they tell you to push the zipped package to the sd just cos you should have formatted the sd before. If you know what you are doing you can also download the zip from the phone, moving to the root, rebooting in recovery and flash.
I guess if you didn't partition or format your sd card or have second sd card that store the rom's zip file, no need for computer to transfer the file.
Great, that's what I thought.
Now to sort that 'void' ROM I'm been meaning to do
What do these bits actually mean, or more importantly, how do I do it?:
Partition SDcard (swap: 0, ext: 512), convert to ext3, then ext4
Wipe everything (data, cache, dalvik-cache, ext, android_secure)
Bennji said:
What do these bits actually mean, or more importantly, how do I do it?:
Partition SDcard (swap: 0, ext: 512), convert to ext3, then ext4
Wipe everything (data, cache, dalvik-cache, ext, android_secure)
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You have to get a custom recovery installed
kpbotbot said:
You have to get a custom recovery installed
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If I have (and I do have) do I not need to worry about them instructions and just go for the flashing bit?
Bennji said:
If I have (and I do have) do I not need to worry about them instructions and just go for the flashing bit?
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Oh I see, that's one of the options in custom recovery, I'm starting to get this now(a bit)
You only need to create an ext partition when your ROM comes with Darktremor Apps2sd, which, I believe, is on most of the ROMs.
kpbotbot said:
You only need to create an ext partition when your ROM comes with Darktremor Apps2sd, which, I believe, is on most of the ROMs.
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Thanks for your help
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Hey Guys!
This is my first post here in this section. Just bought a brand new HERO off ebay after many months of frustration with my laggy Diamond
I've been doing some pre-reading on getting a ROOT & so forth..LoL
(still waiting for my HERO to be delivered though)
So Anyway, this is what i gathered from doing some reading here
1) Root it - Link
2) Install Modacco Rom - Link
3)Update Radio - Link
Got a Question:
> It says to do a WIPE before installing rom. Does that mean formatting the MEMORY CARD?
a wipe means "factory reset" and will not format your SD
Modacos ROMs have Apps2sd on so make sure you partition the SD card correctly. If you use Amons recovery image v1.2.3, there's an option to format the sd card into the right size partitions. I highly recommend Amons recovery image
matt6gsr said:
Modacos ROMs have Apps2sd on so make sure you partition the SD card correctly. If you use Amons recovery image v1.2.3, there's an option to format the sd card into the right size partitions. I highly recommend Amons recovery image
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Seconded about Amon's recovery image. I'm trying to write a new script to support resizing swap/ext3 on sdcard instead of the preset 500MB.
matt6gsr said:
Modacos ROMs have Apps2sd on so make sure you partition the SD card correctly. If you use Amons recovery image v1.2.3, there's an option to format the sd card into the right size partitions. I highly recommend Amons recovery image
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Hmmz, cant i use a Partition manager on my PC? Like Partition Magic? as long as the Ext2 partition is less than 1.5GB
Suppose you can do, but seeing how you're gonna need to use a recovery image amyway, amons does it all for you, remember your apps partition needs to ne ext3 which amons recovery also does
matt6gsr said:
Suppose you can do, but seeing how you're gonna need to use a recovery image amyway, amons does it all for you, remember your apps partition needs to ne ext3 which amons recovery also does
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Yeah i worked it out ended up using Amons.
How do i now what size the EXT3 and Swap partitions are?
& with Apps2SD, when i install an app from the market, does it automatically install it on to the SD?? how does it work?
Sorry guys, my first android phone after years of Win Mo
Darktremor apps2sd force all your apps to sd right. would you recomment it?
please teach me how to install it step by step.
Is there any good launcher i can use beside launcher pro with megatron rom. i most prefer we can create category in the menu. thanks and peace off
shotgun32 said:
Darktremor apps2sd force all your apps to sd right. would you recomment it?
please teach me how to install it step by step.
Is there any good launcher i can use beside launcher pro with megatron rom. i most prefer we can create category in the menu. thanks and peace off
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Hey guys, i really really need to put all my apps to sd card. i dont get it. my total phone memory is 199mb but i count all my downloaded apps that saved to my phone memory are just only 80mb.where does my 119mb goes? please guys help me
shotgun32 said:
Hey guys, i really really need to put all my apps to sd card. i dont get it. my total phone memory is 199mb but i count all my downloaded apps that saved to my phone memory are just only 80mb.where does my 119mb goes? please guys help me
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Some goes to your cache, dalvik-cache, messages, pretty much anything else. Some are on the system partition.
Also, regarding the Darktremor question, I'm one of those people who would say no. Actually, it's up to you. I just stick to FroYo's way of doing it, since I get to have more control and stuff over what goes to the SD and what stays in the phone memory (eg launchers and keyboards).
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Some goes to your cache, dalvik-cache, messages, pretty much anything else. Some are on the system partition.
Also, regarding the Darktremor question, I'm one of those people who would say no. Actually, it's up to you. I just stick to FroYo's way of doing it, since I get to have more control and stuff over what goes to the SD and what stays in the phone memory (eg launchers and keyboards).
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For 119mb? thats too much. i think its bcos the megatron rom installed eaten up my phone memory.
Why you didnt recommend the darktremor? i just want to put my downloaded apps from the market that cant be move to my sd card. is that ok?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=926015
download the last flashable .zip
partition your sdcard as explained in the "void rom" thread
put the .zip in the root of your sdcard
wipe everything
flash you rom,then the darktremor zip.
andreamaisto said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=926015
download the last flashable .zip
partition your sdcard as explained in the "void rom" thread
put the .zip in the root of your sdcard
wipe everything
flash you rom,then the darktremor zip.
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Thanks. but what does partition your sd card and wipe everything do? i always ignore that if want to flash things. btw im using megatron rom not void?
if your using megatron then darktremors a2sd is already part of the rom so u dnt need to install it. how many apps do u have anyways?
akitos said:
if your using megatron then darktremors a2sd is already part of the rom so u dnt need to install it. how many apps do u have anyways?
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hmm but why some of my apps cant be put to sd card.
so far, i have installed 40 apps. only 15 of them cant be put in sd card. the rest in my sd card. but i had to delete 3 to free up my phone memory cause currently my phone memory is 19mb.
is there any other way? if there arent. then there is no point of having 8gb its better just to have 512mb sd card. grrrr
well,if you have not partitioned your sd....there's no way the app2sd included in megatron can work!!
ok,make a backup of your sd,then in recovery mode select
partition sdcard > partiton sd
then select
partition sdcard > SD:ext2 to ext3
then select
partition sdcard > SD:ext3 to ext4
now it should work.
if it doesn't,reflash your rom after a complete wipe (you'll lose all your data and settings)
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well,if you have not partitioned your sd....there's no way the app2sd included in megatron can work!!
ok,make a backup of your sd,then in recovery mode select
partition sdcard > partiton sd
then select
partition sdcard > SD:ext2 to ext3
then select
partition sdcard > SD:ext3 to ext4
now it should work.
if it doesn't,reflash your rom after a complete wipe (you'll lose all your data and settings)
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omg i have do all that, then when i reboot my phone. my scree goes blank. i must installed rom but how can i copt it to my sd card to install it. or teach how to install it from customre covery? helppp
Press the 3 key combo to get in (vol down + home + power) then use the volume buttons to get to USB-MS toggle. You use the menu button on the very right side of your phone to enter. It will allow you to copy the ROM from your pc to the sd card. Remember to exit USB mode afterwards.
First of all, I apologize in advance. I searched through everything and can't find my question. I'm a complete smartphone noob (got my first one a couple days ago--Canada's wireless providers are criminally expensive and I boycotted them as long as I could) and, while I'm reasonably good at technical things overall, I'm totally inexperienced here, with smartphones in general, Android, and it's parent OS Linux.
That out of the way: I have a Samsung Galaxy Ace, with Gingerbread 2.3.4 on it, through the provider Koodo. I am loving this phone, but I'm not entirely sure why certain things didn't work. There were apps I couldn't download due to a lack of space (despite a mostly empty 16GB microSD card), and apps that wouldn't install for other reasons. And always that frighteningly small 158MB system drive staring me in the face. So I decided to try to fix it.
I carefully read every bunch of instructions I could find and understand. Successfully rooted the phone. Installed ClockworkMod Recovery. I repartitioned the SD card with a big ext partition and swap space using CWM. I installed CF-Root-S5830_dtapps2sd-v1.2.zip successfully, and App2SD from the market.
This hasn't helped my free space at all. Nothing seems to be using that new ext partition. My available space did not go up at all...but (of course) my SD card space went down by the size of the new partitions.
I was under the impression there were kernels that could help your phone treat the SD card ext partitions like system space, but I can't figure out where or how for the life of me. Everything has worked, but it hasn't actually done anything.
-NoobGrrl
ur cf-root is not the latest, and I think if u make sd card partition by using cwm, the format will be ext3 not ext4.. so, u should try this step :
1. flash the latest cf-root v37-b82 through cwm from this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1158197
2. partition ur sd card by using minitool partition wizard (google it) and make ext4 format.
3. flash the latest darktremor through cwm (don' forget to mount system n sd card) from this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715116
4. install a2sd gui from market... done..
You probably forgot to move the dalvik cache to sd-ext from A2SDGUI.
To begin with, as you haven't done this before, I recommend you download the app link2sd rather than app2sdgui. Your system will be ext3 from CWM. Select and reboot. Then return to link2sd and you can move apps one by one or by batch installation to your partition by creating a "link". This method gives you finer control over which apps to move. It shows file sizes and how much of the app will be moved. After moving the apps reboot and hey presto - free internal memory.
I also recommend getting an app called DiskUsage to see what is taking up space and a file browser with root functions. I use Root Browser by jrummy16 - free on market.
Sent from a phone with an app.
First of all, thanks for the replies! I like the detailed instructions from musf especially...step-by-step for me is really the best way.
Okay, tried to follow those directions exactly. Minitool Partition Wizard has reformated the little 2GB partition I made on the SD card to ext4. Most recent CF-Root and dtapp2sd zips seemed to install fine. I think I mounted all the drives...I just do it from CWM, yes?
Downloaded A3SDGUI and it gives me an error:
Exiting A3SDGUI
Could not start for one of these reasons:
1. Your device is not rooted (it is, superuser shows access granted to A3SDGUI)
2. A3SD scripts could not be found (if so, no idea why.)
3. No EXT partition found (again, no idea why.)
Edit: Tried Link2SD and it gave an error as well, "Mount script could not be created. No such device."
Okay, so obviously it doesn't see my SD card's partition. So I put it back in my PC and recreated it again. No change at all...
yes from cwm, choose the "mount n storage" menu, then moutn system, then mount sdcard, then instal the darktremor zip file..
That seems to have almost worked...yes, I was mounting the drives after running DT. Duh. (I assumed somehow that DTapp2sd allowed me to set up the drives and I was telling the phone to mount it afterward so it could be used. I didn't realize DTapp2sd just needed to write to the drive.)
Almost. Almost worked.
Now, app2sd actually starts up successfully, no errors. (link2sd still gives the same error.) However, App2SD can't actually move anything. All items remain disabled, even after selecting them.
So then I remember the post above about the dalvik cache. So I go into App2SD and try to move it to the sd-ext folder, and it tells me there is not enough space. I have 124 MB of system memory left right now...and the SD card is mostly empty.
Follow the following instructions and tell me if they work:
(redo the steps even if you have done them already)
1. download cwm5 from the forum and place it into your sd card.
2. make a backup of your sd card and reboot your phone into recovery.
3. flash cwm5 file and reboot the recovery.
4. from the recovery, re-partition your card with a ext partition (you dont need more than 256-512mb. I have 16gb card and mine is only 256mb).
5. select swap if you want it.
6. ~partitioning complete~
7. Connect your phone to your computer with usb wire (while in recovery.)
8. mount usb storage from recovery.
9. copy the cfroot file to your memory card from pc.
10. unmount the usb storage.
11. mount system,sdcard, sd-ext (just to be on safe side) and flash with cfroot.
12. reboot.
13. open a2sdgui.
14. click yes, apps are on sd!, zipalign on boot is on!.
15. set swap if you want it.
16. from dalvik, click on dalvik cache on sd-ext and click move and rebuild.
17. your phone should reboot and you will be done
Notes: Its normal that after flashing a2sd script, your phone restarts a coupe of times so just leave it alone for a moment.
Don't forget to give superuser permission to a2sdgui.
If you still get some error, sty flashing the script again.
If it still doesn't get through, search for the dt a2sd beta 4 script and flash that from recovery. Other steps are the same!
Happy FLASHING
I'm using Clockworkmodace. That's 4, not 5, right?
I can't find a zip for CWM5 that is designated for the galaxy ace...
Here is CWM 5 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1291327
Then , i would recommend you to use cyanogenmod 7.2 RC1 , it is better than a stock ROM
2 mistakes from redlag's instruction (cmiiw) :
first, cwm 5 is for cm7 based rom, dunno what'll happen if used on stock gb.. n second, point 4 can't be used, it'll make ext3 not ext4..
uninstall the link2sd then reflash the dta2sd (mount!) or uninstal the dt then reflash link2sd.. can't use both, they're like fire n water, lol.. u must choose..
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2 mistakes from redlag's instruction (cmiiw) :
first, cwm 5 is for cm7 based rom, dunno what'll happen if used on stock gb.. n second, point 4 can't be used, it'll make ext3 not ext4..
uninstall the link2sd then reflash the dta2sd (mount!) or uninstal the dt then reflash link2sd.. can't use both, they're like fire n water, lol.. u must choose..
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I think cwm5 should work and i made it using point 4 and it works perfectly.
p.s. sd-ext are normally ext2, not ext3 or ext4. ext4 is normally used in internal.
EDIT: No it dsn't. Use cwm4. I guess that one has partitioning option too right? O easy way out, flash to ics1.2
aymi60 said:
Here is CWM 5 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1291327
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Edit: Ah, missed clarifications of my worried on the second page.
Then , i would recommend you to use cyanogenmod 7.2 RC1 , it is better than a stock ROM
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What is cyanogenmod?
musf said:
2 mistakes from redlag's instruction (cmiiw) :
first, cwm 5 is for cm7 based rom, dunno what'll happen if used on stock gb.. n second, point 4 can't be used, it'll make ext3 not ext4..
uninstall the link2sd then reflash the dta2sd (mount!) or uninstal the dt then reflash link2sd.. can't use both, they're like fire n water, lol.. u must choose..
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No go...no change at all.
IrishRed said:
What is cyanogenmod?
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Go to recovery, Wipe cache/system/data. (make sure you have made a backup of your data.)
Mount the stuff and flash with http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1258830
You have a new rom with dt a2sd running within
I'm going to try a different version of dtapp2sd first.
Should the ext and swap partitions be logical or primary?
I'm starting to think my EXT partition is not formatting properly in mini partition tool. Unfortunately CWM uses Ext3 and I'm told it's worse than Ext4 and Ext2 is better than both for an SD card.
Both primary. 1st one should be fat32 and second one should be ext2.
Well, good news and bad news. After some work, reformatting the partitions again, reflashing a new kernel, I finally got it working.
Trouble is, it's not stable. Apps keep crashing, the "Gallery" app only shows a black screen, and it randomly loses access to the FAT32 partition when running, and the SIM card occasionally says "Unrecognized" (forcing me to "restore to factory.")
*sighs*
Flash to the rom i linked you to.
I have to much junk and empty folders on the phone. I tried format through CWM, format system, cache, data, emmc...everything is still there. I want to clean (as in new) my internal storage.
Does "factory reset" does that, or is it just for deleting any 'personal' data (pics, files) etc?
Thanks.
Wipe data/factory reset only wipes the data partition. What you want is to format the internal sdcard. Go to Settings | Storage and select "Format SD card."
creepyncrawly said:
Wipe data/factory reset only wipes the data partition. What you want is to format the internal sdcard. Go to Settings | Storage and select "Format SD card."
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Thanks.
Will I then be able to boot into recovery, or CWM will no longer be there and I'll have to use ODIN?
Also, am I losing ROOT when doing that?
No. No. No.
You can format the root files from CWM recovery. You said you tried that and it didn't do what you want.
Formating the internal sdcard will remove all your personal files from the phone, including pictures and any other files and directories you have created. If that's not what you want to do, then don't format the internal sdcard.
Formating the internal sdcard will not touch the system, kernel, data partition or any other root files. You will not lose root. So yes you will be able to boot into cwm recovery, or even into whatever system you have installed after formating the internal sdcard.
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Thanks.
Will I then be able to boot into recovery, or CWM will no longer be there and I'll have to use ODIN?
Also, am I losing ROOT when doing that?
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Common sense, make a backup (meaning copy and save your personal info to somewhere else first, you can delete them later if you really don't need them).
Also, adding to what creepy has said, be sure "SD card" is your internal storage, not external uSD.
I suggest you removing the external uSD card first, just in case.
The reason I said so because with CwMR and Task's AOKP, format SD card is formatting the external uSD card, while "format /emmc" will be do the internal one.
Just precaution.
Thank you both.
Yes, I already 'discovered' that formatting SD Card in CWM formats the external ...luckily I didn't have anything important there.
I still don't get it though. Looks like we are talking about two different things.
I have my internal storage fully backed up. I want to wipe it clean, as in a PC Format. Is there a way to do that, or can I simply remove empty folders in file explorer? Too much junk has been collected there in a year and a half of many custom roms and different apps that I tried and removed.
sbi1 said:
Thank you both.
Yes, I already 'discovered' that formatting SD Card in CWM formats the external ...luckily I didn't have anything important there.
I still don't get it though. Looks like we are talking about two different things.
I have my internal storage fully backed up. I want to wipe it clean, as in a PC Format. Is there a way to do that, or can I simply remove empty folders in file explorer? Too much junk has been collected there in a year and a half of many custom roms and different apps that I tried and removed.
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Refer to 2nd post. Your internal storage has 2 partitions. One is where all the system data is, and the other is where all the personal data is (where apps install to). If you do what's written in the 2nd post, it will completely wipe clean the personal partition.
dsmboost said:
Refer to 2nd post. Your internal storage has 2 partitions. One is where all the system data is, and the other is where all the personal data is (where apps install to). If you do what's written in the 2nd post, it will completely wipe clean the personal partition.
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Will I still be able to access CWM and install custom rom from Ext SD?
sbi1 said:
Will I still be able to access CWM and install custom rom from Ext SD?
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Yes, formatting internal sd card (doesn't matter which partition) does not touch either of those.
I want to remove files that have accumulated from other roms. In others words like stock, but with custom rom. I like Beanstown106 with SD swap.
Thats a little tricky with sd swap but you will have to painstakingly go file by file and see if it's something you have deleted to something that you are still using. If you have any apps that created a folder and are gone for good then you are safe to delete. But avoid any system app folders and anything that you are still using like pictures, music and so on avoid.
M.A.D.NoTe.||
thx for help
I'm installing cleanrom ace 4.9 my goto rom next to beanstown106. No SD swap and I was thinking of formating SD card. Now how do I erase what a factory reset won't delete.
I usually wipe EVErYTahING wenever i flash something new sd card and all just to start from scratch but all i got on sd card is pix and music so its easyily backed up
SAPPERJD said:
now how do I erase what a factory reset won't delete.
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from recovery, format internal and external sd. that will wipe everything out completely.
I did consider formating from recovery. I'm just scare of deleting the OS and my phone ending up being useless. I did research and what I read it won't. Any advise is welcome THX to everyone.
SAPPERJD said:
I did consider formating from recovery. I'm just scare of deleting the OS and my phone ending up being useless. I did research and what I read it won't. Any advise is welcome THX to everyone.
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How would it end up being useless? Its no different than a pc...your reformatting and installing the OS on a clean slate.
I was thinking if I formated the internal it would delete recovery as well. And had no way of installing a new rom. Thx again really help full.
Wipe Everything
droidstyle said:
from recovery, format internal and external sd. that will wipe everything out completely.
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I want to clean up my directory structure. If I format the internal and external sd using recovery (TWRP) to wipe everything, what rom will boot? Will my custom rom boot or will the original verizon rom boot? Will I have to unlock the bootloader again? Thanks.
rechbo said:
I want to clean up my directory structure. If I format the internal and external sd using recovery (TWRP) to wipe everything, what rom will boot? Will my custom rom boot or will the original verizon rom boot? Will I have to unlock the bootloader again? Thanks.
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you will lose all data and need to reflash the rom in recovery...no you will not have to unlock again, nothing performed from recovery will overwrite the boot.img.
I was scared of the losing my OS as well, but it's not that hard. Treat it as two steps. Formatting your sDCard, and then prepping your SdCard by doing a Nandroid backup to your SdCard, and copying a flashable ROM (and kernel if your ROM does not flash a kernel) to your SdCard. Before formatting your SdCard copy anything you want to keep to your computer. I just copy the whole card to my computer.
Reboot and do your data resets and wipes, including internal storage (format data in twrp) Then flash your ROM that you put on your ext SdCard. Your nandroid backup is your insurance. Worst case you boot into recovery and restore your backup.
(But you should still have a working toolkit or ADB on your computer and you can recover from any screw up)
As long as you have what you need on your (ext) SdCard before wiping internal storage, and you only do a data reset and cache wipes and only do 'format data' you will be fine.
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