Netflix app! Will it work on vibrant? - Vibrant Themes and Apps

Do you think the official netflix app will work on vibrant? Its been reported it will be chip dependant or something like that.
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Only working on snapdragon devices right now.
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What's snapdragon?

dcaples002 said:
What's snapdragon?
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thats the processor
snapdragon ex = nexux one
hummingbird = Galaxy phones

rel500 said:
thats the processor
processor ex = nexux one
hummingbird = Galaxy phones
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Well, almost, galaxy s = a8 cortex, hummingbird is the chip set.
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They should be able to get one for the Galaxy, heck the Ipad is A9 right, so shouldnt be too hard.

raerae28 said:
They should be able to get one for the Galaxy, heck the Ipad is A9 right, so shouldnt be too hard.
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Not without some major hackage, it will only work with some drm instructions built into next gen cpu's.
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Im not a tech doctor so please bare with me. What's the difference in processors I mean ****ty phones like the hd7 has netflix. Can someone clear up the smoke?
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Im not a tech doctor so please bare with me. What's the difference in processors I mean ****ty phones like the hd7 has netflix. Can someone clear up the smoke?
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Netflix App
Its not about performance because the hummingbird processor is superior to the snapdragon, i guess its the next gen qualcomm snapdragon processors. That is the one bad thing about andriod, several processors and andriod versions so longer to make apps compared to ios.

Why are they only developing one for snapdragon processors.... thats BS.... Netflix is a big company and they can afford to make their app available for most if not all devices. I mean it will only work to increase their customer base.
Never really got whey Netflix has been so slow (and continues to be so slow) in developing an android app. Same goes for Hulu.

From what I understand is that netflix will be releasing an app on certain android phones, not all, mainly because they don't want people to hack and find a way to bypass the monthly membership and stream videos for free since android is open source. Not sure how correct that is but that's what I read on an article on android central a while back.

From a purely technical point of view any phone with an ARM Cortex A8 processor should be capable of running Netflix just fine provided it has an adequate data connection (this includes Qualcomm's Snapdragon processors for the Nexus One, EVO, DInc, etc... ; TI's OMAP processors for the Droid X and Droid 2; and Samsung's Hummingbird processors for the Galaxy S and related phones). The problem that is holding them back is incorporating DRM into the devices to suit Netflix's business model. So far, only Qualcomm has struck a deal with Netflix, so right now only phones that use Qualcomm's next generation chipset will be able to use Netflix. This has nothing to do with the performance capabilities of the hardware itself and is nothing more than a business strategy.

This won't be of interest to most of you, but for anyone running PlayOn, they just released an Android app. You can find it here.
The downside for most, is there is a trial for Playon, but after that you have to pay for the PC application. It runs on your home PC and let's you stream Hulu, Netflix, YouTube, etc to Xbox, PS3 (now Android) and others. It's a niche software, but in my case, I use it. You can port forward your router and connect from the outside, but I haven't tried that yet and don't know if I will.
The app itself is in its first release, so it has some downsides that I have seen. It's slow as molasses. It can't find some links sometimes, but when it works and connects, it seems to work well. I consider it to be a beta build. Long story short, if you don't have PlayOn, look if you want, but don't get your hopes up. If you do use PlayOn, try the app, hopefully it will get better.
Note: Allshare will connect and browse PlayOn, but the streams come back in an "unsupported format".

I have used playon outside the home it works fairly well except if you want to FF or rewind.

The Nexus S is the only phone there that does not have the snapdragon, has the humming bird right? So... I am not seeing any hardware difference that would make an effect, if it could play on the Nexus S, should work on Galaxy S devices.

SethHikari said:
The Nexus S is the only phone there that does not have the snapdragon, has the humming bird right? So... I am not seeing any hardware difference that would make an effect, if it could play on the Nexus S, should work on Galaxy S devices.
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I can practically guarantee you that the reason why this works on the Nexus S but not the Galaxy S has nothing to do with hardware compatibility and everything to do with licensing. Whatever is holding back the Netflix app from working on our phones, it's a legal issue and not a technical issue.

It's definitely not a Snapdragon vs. Hummingbird issue because it works on the Nexus S.

Missing Lib Files?...you know the new gtalk has a lib file that goes with it or it doesnt work properly......just a thought.

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That's not true. It works on Nexus S which has a hummingbird

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How come an android device never gets a proper gpu? doesnt it bother you?

The galaxy nexus is getting a very old powervr sgx 540 gpu, all htc's phones cant run a decent game smoothly, not to mention motorola's phones.
Nvidia is not really serios about it's gpu's, i feel that even the kal-el is going to be a failure.
Not to mention qualcomm or any other chip manufacturers.
what really bothers me is that if i want the most recent gaming i have to buy an apple device, iphone/ipad and im really not going to trade android for ios.
the powervr 543mp2 outclassed every gpu and will be better than the upcoming gpus.
And just before a new and better gpu is released, apple will build the a6 architecture including a new powervr chip with better graphics for at least a year.
Can anybody explain this situation?
Doesn't bother me one bit, the GPU could go to better use eg rendering the launcher and aiding with video playback, but as for gaming I couldn't care less, have my PSP and PC for that.
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Bro.. galaxy nexus using powervr540 with 384mhz clock! Normal device using 200mhz. If you overclock your graphic, the max it can go is 240mhz.
HTC normally using Qualcomm with adreno gpu. That's why it is slow. A galaxy nexus s using arm (optimize for battery with full speed) and powervr.
If a developer develop a game only for superhigh end devices, I don't think he will gain income. No one is going to play the super high end game that only applicable in dual core device.
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thats not true, most developers will develope it for the ipad and then port it over to android, while it still stuttering as hell, or decrease the quality of the textures.
its true that the powervr540 is now clocked at 380mhz but you forgot that it has so much more pixels to render, so its actually the same thing.
i still cant understand why i dont get to choose to have the best gpu with android, why is only apple buying the best gpus in the market? are the other manufacturers stupid or they just want us to replace our phones faster?
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just to prove my thoughts about the galaxy nexus:
http://www.glbenchmark.com/compare....Samsung GT-i9100 Galaxy S2&D4=Apple iPhone 4S
I suppose apple are lucky they,ve only 1 os to push out to the 3 items, and apple are just 1 company, is it maybe the gpu makers respect apple more, as for android, u hav so many phones, so many companies, so maybe that amounts to less quality, i own a htc desire and a asus tf, the games i hav on my transformer are amazing, so if its not running to its full capacity, then im scared to think how much better it could be, tho didnt they say ics will take advantage of the gpu.
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umm doesnt Samsung make Apples chips?
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umm doesnt Samsung make Apples chips?
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Yes, and Apple was stupid enough to try to sue them.
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Yes, and Apple was stupid enough to try to sue them.
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I swear the Captivates GPU is one of the most powerful ones out there.! i love it
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I suppose apple are lucky they,ve only 1 os to push out to the 3 items, and apple are just 1 company, is it maybe the gpu makers respect apple more, as for android, u hav so many phones, so many companies, so maybe that amounts to less quality, i own a htc desire and a asus tf, the games i hav on my transformer are amazing, so if its not running to its full capacity, then im scared to think how much better it could be, tho didnt they say ics will take advantage of the gpu.
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"If it's not running to ots full capacity"?
Its not getting 1/3 of what the ipad 2 gets, not only with fps, but with the quality of the texures and more.
I see that you've never seen a game running on the ipad.
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"If it's not running to ots full capacity"?
Its not getting 1/3 of what the ipad 2 gets, not only with fps, but with the quality of the texures and more.
I see that you've never seen a game running on the ipad.
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You should go back to apple if you are interested in it. What iPhone can play = what we can play.
What ipad can play = what we can play.
But what we can play, ipad can't play. We can play playstation game on android, but apple can't.
And pure Google phone is different from dirty Google phone. You should find out more on pure Google phone that FULLY optimize for ICS or Google Rom
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Your right and i dont want too either, i love android and dont want to pay over the odds just for a silly apple logo, my days off being cool are over, i,d much rather pay 500 less for something that does as just a good job, forget apple, android is grounfbreaking and kicking apples ass, and they dont like it
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Not true Motorola have plenty of android powerful with powervrchip .Droid 1, 530 Droid 2, Droid x and droid 2 global. All 3 had 535 same as iphone 4. Droid 3 which was first arm 9 and powervr chip @540. Droid x2 and atrix runs tegra 2. It depends on your taste. Samsung only have galaxy s and galaxy s2 as it gaming phone.
Droid 1 was the first gaming device and powervrchip 530/arm8 on android to compete with the iphone in 2009. First to be overclock to 1ghz speed in feb 2010 and first 1.4ghz speed in July 2010. Beside Nexus One having 1ghz speed as default. Fyi my htc g2 doesnt lag on gaming i think sense ui, make the lag on the os. As my phone near pure google.
Dont forget Sony have its Xperia Play run adreno 205 like on my htc g2 , phone with adreno will as fast as manufacture or you mod want it to be.
Wow,in 2011 there were only crap gpus compared to today's mali t604 and powervr SGX 544mp3...
Android gaming evolved incredibly fast past year.

Why are so many games not rezound Compatible?

I dont get it? A ton of EA games = no go; All the gameloft games (now .99) = no go....Its odd
All I can figure is they are not compatible with the HD screen.
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I assume it's due to the higher resolution screen and them not having tested/debugged yet, but that's just my guess.
That was my hunch but they are GNex compatible and the difference isnt that great in terms of pixels....its weird
Hm... I hope I can play Peggle when I open the box with my new Rezound tonight
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That was my hunch but they are GNex compatible and the difference isnt that great in terms of pixels....its weird
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Rezound's 341 ppi vs Gnex's 315 ppi. http://www.slashgear.com/galaxy-nexus-has-curved-pentile-oled-display-21189996/ interesting read.
PowerVR vs Adreno
android fragmentation? :/
i'm sure its easier to port from ipod/ipad since they are powervr gpu's
I doubt it's the kind GPU that is the problem (after all the games are written to an API, not to a particular model of GPU!). I have a feeling they all added support for 1184x720 for the GNex, and never added 1280x720 for the Rezound. Since on the GNex, the software buttons steal 96 pixels.
I agree that it's probably a screen resolution problem. Games that work on the thunderbolt don't work...
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Games that work fine in my Droid Charge don't work either.
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a lot of the new games have cpu architecture requirements. gameloft's support for the galaxy nexus and not the rezound has to do with the fact that it runs on an nvidia processor. the gnex has an older gpu with plenty of proprietary files and source code which makes it easy to develop for.
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a lot of the new games have cpu architecture requirements. gameloft's support for the galaxy nexus and not the rezound has to do with the fact that it runs on an nvidia processor. the gnex has an older gpu with plenty of proprietary files and source code which makes it easy to develop for.
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Nexus has an omap processor.
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So is there anything that we can do to get our phones supported?
It's probably because they're tablet optimized. The Nexus is running ICS, which is for both phones and tablets, so it makes sense that it would get them all.
Edit: I have an ICS rom now, and still can't get these games, so it's not that. Nevermind.
Peggle plays swimmingly!
The EA Scrabble game, on the other hand....
Anyone find a build.prop edit that actually works? I've tried a couple of modifications tonight but none of them worked. I would imagine if there is a workable build.prod we should be able to download and play till our hearts explode. That is not to say the resolution will be spot on, but it should work! But alas, it is not. Ideas?
on my Inc, i did the build prop from the galaxy s 2 and it found gameloft games fine and downloaded and even played them... so i played modern combat 3 on the Inc tonight... yeah it was a little slow, but i bet this phone couldbrock it. either way, I bought it because it was cheap and hopefully soon the rezound will be supported.
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this helps
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What if - Sony Tablet with Vita guts

I hope this is the right place to put this...
I got to thinking recently. I love my Sony Tablet to death and use it daily, but I now have my Vita and once more software an support is up and running for it, I think I can see it cutting into my tablet-love.
Now from what I undersand the guts of a Vita (cpu/gpu) don't really work too well in a cell phone, but what about in the next Sony tablet? Sure it likely won't operate on the Vita OS and will use Android, but how desirable would this be in your opinions? How would its performance compare to the other tablets on the market?
Is there really any reason why the Vitas guts wouldn't work in an Android tablet? Personally I'd like to see a Sony tablet with the Vita OS, but unfortunately the software support isn't there yet and likely won't be for 6 months to a year.
So... thoughts?
I'm wondering if Sony will release another tablet.
Sales haven't been great and there's a lot of competition out there. If only they'd market it a bit and plug the plus points & differences over the ipad and other Android tablets, then I'm sure it would pinch more market share.
I'd also like to see better PS3 integration. Using it as a controller like the next gen wii.I'm sure the hardware is up to the job.
Sony will release another Tab, actually this tab is named one of the best tabs out there. But to get a premium and unique tab you have to pay right?
next tab is named S2 and will have quad core
That's good to hear. Must have taken a while to come up with the name.
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Sony will release another Tab, actually this tab is named one of the best tabs out there. But to get a premium and unique tab you have to pay right?
next tab is named S2 and will have quad core
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Yeah, it makes sense that it'll be quad core, but I'm wondering if it'd make more sense for them to port Vita the CPU/GPU into it, or go for the newer A15 quad cores that'll be coming out eventually. Anyone know enough about the Vita internals to know if they have any advantages over these newer chipsets?
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Yeah, it makes sense that it'll be quad core, but I'm wondering if it'd make more sense for them to port Vita the CPU/GPU into it, or go for the newer A15 quad cores that'll be coming out eventually. Anyone know enough about the Vita internals to know if they have any advantages over these newer chipsets?
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Just like PC and consoles, they are two totally different things
Vitas chipset runs in closed environment just like your PS3 or 360, which will always be optimise performance
So the same or slightly more powerful chip set will never match it because of this
But on paper, yeah I suppose, but if ya mean will A15 in a phone or a tab be able to run Uncharted the answer is no.
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No point in dual core?

http://www.phonedog.com/2012/06/11/...really-detrimental-to-the-android-experience/
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http://www.pcworld.com/article/257307/dual_core_processors_wasted_on_android_intel_claims.html
according to intels general manager dual cores are not doing us any good. That obviously means quadcores are going to do even less for us.
Just Intel propaganda as they are trying to get into the mobile processor market.
Hmm perhaps but at the same time makes sense. These phones should fly but I also know it has to do with the VM
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Hmm perhaps but at the same time makes sense. These phones should fly but I also know it has to do with the VM
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The thing we have to realize here is that Android was designed to cater to different hardware configurations vs let's say Apple's direction for mobile, they have control of the hardware so they can customize drivers with their software.It also depends how the application uses the hardware too. Dual-core "I believe" is about right, because these apps are not really going to utilize it.
Intel needs to "put their money where their mouth is." All they need to do is make a single core soc that competes with the s4 and tegra 3 AND within a reasonable budget for me to believe and trust them. Till then its just smack talk.
guy has a point there, and a valid one...I remember when we got the first dual core phone and it wasn't nearly optimized to take full use of it...So in the end it makes sense overall...Esp when you look at it from apps and everything else that doesn't take full advantage of everything available...least thats my thinking on it...
BUT I highly doubt Intel is scared and trying to pull a marketing scheme as some of the things they announced at CES for the future of mobile SoC line for them was amazing...down the the tiny nm processing to the features pushing for...
Also its Intel....their stuff wont be bad in the end of things, once they get solid footing here...
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guy has a point there, and a valid one...I remember when we got the first dual core phone and it wasn't nearly optimized to take full use of it...So in the end it makes sense overall...Esp when you look at it from apps and everything else that doesn't take full advantage of everything available...least thats my thinking on it...
BUT I highly doubt Intel is scared and trying to pull a marketing scheme as some of the things they announced at CES for the future of mobile SoC line for them was amazing...down the the tiny nm processing to the features pushing for...
Also its Intel....their stuff wont be bad in the end of things, once they get solid footing here...
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Thank you first logical post lol obviously its a marketing scheme not like they don't almost have a monopoly anyways. Lol and I think dual cores this gen anyways is somewhat better then the s3 and I'm sure they are better then the exynos.
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Not the right person to believe. It's like believing Steve jobs when he said people don't want phones larger than 3.5" screen.
Once their stuff is released and a third party with no ties, including advertising, can test it then i will believe.
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Thank you first logical post lol obviously its a marketing scheme not like they don't almost have a monopoly anyways. Lol and I think dual cores this gen anyways is somewhat better then the s3 and I'm sure they are better then the exynos.
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Actually, Intel has maybe a 5% market share in chips. So they don't have a monopoly lol. There's this one company with a super high market share, I forgot the name.
But this is interesting. Reminds of the "S4 is faster because Android isn't made for quad cores!" argument.
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I'd bet that most lower-end dual-core Androids really aren't optimized for it. There are some pretty cheap handsets out there, and the experience with them sucks.
On the other hand, though, the manufacturers who make quality phones (HTC) know what they're doing.
It sounds just like the argument iPhans used to make two years ago - they'd talk about how Android was not a good OS because the phones they tried were laggy, slow, and stuttered... ignoring entirely the fact that they were playing with the cheap Android phones. Put a resource-intensive OS in cheap hardware and the experience will suck.
And to an earlier point, Intel is trying to get into the mobile space... and their mobile processors are single core. It's in their best interest to make people leery of their dual-core competition.
I agree with the article 100%, mostly. For now, all enabling dual cores does is inflate useless benchmarks and kill the battery.
The bad part of the article is trying to compare today's processor arch with old stuff.
My personal opinion... Taylor Martin is a moron. Most of his articles on Phonedog are useless!
Medfield is a single core. Maybe they are just trying to defend their product.
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Actually, Intel has maybe a 5% market share in chips. So they don't have a monopoly lol. There's this one company with a super high market share, I forgot the name.
But this is interesting. Reminds of the "S4 is faster because Android isn't made for quad cores!" argument.
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Even in the pc world? That's what I was referring to I understand mobile wise they don't have much or any... Hence the they don't need a scheme
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This article is about 99.99% right. There is some obvious bias in it, but it holds a lot of truth.
The fact is that Android wasn't built to be "silky smooth". Take a look at WP7 for example, those phones run as smooth as any phone can run and they are all single core processors, yesteryear android specs. The architecture of the OS is 100x more important than processing power and it's sad to say that Google absolutely did not focus on this when they started creating Android. Keep in mine that they started before Apple or Windows in building Android, so they probably just didn't have the foresight.
With that being said, I am as big of an Android fan as any of you and I don't plan on changing any time soon but the fact remains that our operating system will most likely never be as smooth as WP or ios. We win by a milestone though when it comes to functionality.

[Q] Help me find detailed specs on S3 system

Can someone tell me where I can read about the specs of Galaxy S3 and the specs about what everything is?
I mean we have "Arm Cortex A9", which is the CPU right? But the instruction set is "ARMv7" as I understand it, like to know more about that.
Then there's "Tegra 3", which I now understand is not in the S3 but rather "Exynos 4412". And that is the GPU?
And then there's something called ARMv7 NEON.
Well, those are the things I want to learn about. And I think it's better to read some spread sheet or whatever instead of getting short, sporadic answers here.
But I have Googled for a long time now and most pages is just copies from the same source and not very specific.
In conclusion, if you can point me to a site or file where I can read about all this, I will let you have my wife for 2 nights!
Since I am not married you will have to settle for myself in a wig portraying your dream woman! Sound good? Naaah.. I know
But you will have my sincere gratitude!
try wiki
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Exynos
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Well, i can say that the exynos 4412 is the chip set that's the S3 uses. So basically that is the quad core goodness. Tegra 3 is a dofferent chip set, made by a different manufacture (ndiva[ sorry i spelt that wrong]). Each chipset handles tasks differently. Tegra 3 i belive is suppose to be great at 3D gaming if i recall properly, however Tegra 3, in my opinion (i have a Tegra 3 device) is crap. Exynos 4412 and the exynos 4453(?) That is going to be released by Samsung are much better. However probably the best chipset out there is most likely the snapdragon S4. I have only seen this in dual core phones, but once this chipset hits quadcore it will be unstoppable. Armv7 is the artitechure of... something. Sorry I do not know too much about ARM besides ARM9 is better than 7 and 11 is better than 9 and so on. ARM is kinda the same thing as Intel on a windows computer, but ARM has MUCCHH more battery life. So basically if u ran Windows on your android phone it would lag a lot, not because the phone doesn't have the power, but because the OS is not designed for the way the hardware is set up. But if u run Linux( which is designed for ARM on your android developed device it runs smoothly (can say this is true, I've tried it ) that noted, Linux can run on a Intel windows computer smoothly. Not sure why. I've basicily spewed as much knowledge as I have at you here, but i also want to let u know that you will eventually learn what all these chip sets are and what they do, etc with time. (I am presuming you are relatively new with Android, i apologize if i am mistaken)
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Try this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.proxectos.phonespecs
You can find your specs with this, then search google what you wish to know
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http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Samsung-Galaxy-S-III-Teardown/9391/1
This is a link for a teardown of the S3, which u may find helpful if u want to do research on separate parts of the s3. Also a great guide to learn how to disassemble the phone. Have a good day sir!
Please note that the information above may not be 100% correct, as I am only human and can easily make mistakes
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Exynos
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Well, i can say that the exynos 4412 is the chip set that's the S3 uses. So basically that is the quad core goodness. Tegra 3 is a dofferent chip set, made by a different manufacture (ndiva[ sorry i spelt that wrong]). Each chipset handles tasks differently. Tegra 3 i belive is suppose to be great at 3D gaming if i recall properly, however Tegra 3, in my opinion (i have a Tegra 3 device) is crap. Exynos 4412 and the exynos 4453(?) That is going to be released by Samsung are much better. However probably the best chipset out there is most likely the snapdragon S4. I have only seen this in dual core phones, but once this chipset hits quadcore it will be unstoppable. Armv7 is the artitechure of... something. Sorry I do not know too much about ARM besides ARM9 is better than 7 and 11 is better than 9 and so on. ARM is kinda the same thing as Intel on a windows computer, but ARM has MUCCHH more battery life. So basically if u ran Windows on your android phone it would lag a lot, not because the phone doesn't have the power, but because the OS is not designed for the way the hardware is set up. But if u run Linux( which is designed for ARM on your android developed device it runs smoothly (can say this is true, I've tried it ) that noted, Linux can run on a Intel windows computer smoothly. Not sure why. I've basicily spewed as much knowledge as I have at you here, but i also want to let u know that you will eventually learn what all these chip sets are and what they do, etc with time. (I am presuming you are relatively new with Android, i apologize if i am mistaken)
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Thanks all!
There was a lot of good info there nodstuff and I probably can piece it together now with a little patience.
But one thing that is not mentioned is NEON. Where does that fit in?
OK, quad s4 is not "unstoppable" just wait for the 5 series exynos processors which will be true A-15 architecture.
They will kerb stomp the **** out of the s4.
Also Armv7 is not the same as A-9, v7 is the instruction set, there is also an A-7 and it is the architecture. (A-9, A-7, A-15, etc.)
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Try this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.proxectos.phonespecs
You can find your specs with this, then search google what you wish to know
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WoodenAnts said:
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Samsung-Galaxy-S-III-Teardown/9391/1
This is a link for a teardown of the S3, which u may find helpful if u want to do research on separate parts of the s3. Also a great guide to learn how to disassemble the phone. Have a good day sir!
Please note that the information above may not be 100% correct, as I am only human and can easily make mistakes
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Thanks jojoost, I had just found Antutu before your post but I will try them both.
WoodenAnts: that was the nail in the coffin. Thanks a LOT! Now I can understand it, and also get the info on "NEON".
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http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Samsung-Galaxy-S-III-Teardown/9391/1
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BTW, what color would you like the wig to be? :angel:

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