I am trying to figure out the best way to transfer apps from my rooted Captivate to the Atrix. Titanium backup would be the natural choice, but it only works on a rooted phone which the Atrix isn't, at least for now. I could go to the android web page https://market.android.com/ and tell it to download each app separately. But I am wondering if there is a non rooted backup/restore app that will let me selectively backup/restore?? I say selectively because I do not want to restore those apps that require a rooted phone.
Then there is the question of the market place which saves your downloaded app list linked to your gmail account. I do not want market place to remember those apps I don't want on the Atrix. So the question is how do you instruct the market place to "forget" installed apps? The only way I know of would be to install ALL the apps via either a backup program or thru the web client, then de-install those from the phone I don't want which would then wipe them out from market place account so they will not keep re-appearing in my app list.
I should have my Atrix in my hands this Monday!
I would too like to know this. Thanks to anyone who knows the answer!
Try AppMonster.....there's a pro version as well
I would suggest App Brain personally...That's what I've been using during my time with my EVO.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.appspot.swisscodemonkeys.apps&feature=search_result
App brain, a trackdog, and appbak
Captivate 2.2.1 Paragon
Actually, AppBrain and all those "add-on Markets" won't work with the Atrix out of the box. AT&T disallowed sideloading and that counts apps like that.
On the plus side, the Atrix has already been rooted (read the first topic in the Dev section of the Atrix forum)...so it lets you do anything you want.
Check the Atrix dev sub forum - They have root!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=960336
GREAT
OK looks like we are going to have our Atrix rooted and Titanium backup working but there is still the problem of the market links. There is some reference to market links in Titanium backup but not sure if that works to enable updates and there's still the issue of un-installed not wanted apps getting unregistered with market place. I had lost some apps and reinstalled with Titanium backup and I am not sure if I regained the market links or not. I am certainly not complaining and expect to spend many hours setting up the phone...thats part of the fun. Until a solution appears the best way to handle this may be to install the apps separately from the market place or via the web. I will try other programs others have suggested and post a solution here if found.
You can still sideload via ADB - so if you have the APK file it is simple to side load many.
How do you extract your own apk's? Been wondering this for a while now
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You can use adb to pull them off your phone...
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I'm coming from an Evo so not familiar with this sideloading business - is there a primer someplace?
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hotleadsingerguy said:
Actually, AppBrain and all those "add-on Markets" won't work with the Atrix out of the box. AT&T disallowed sideloading and that counts apps like that.
On the plus side, the Atrix has already been rooted (read the first topic in the Dev section of the Atrix forum)...so it lets you do anything you want.
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App brain only side loads? I though by synching my account, it would allow me to re download all applications from the market that is how it checks for upgrades anyway.
I use.app brain to actually check for updates to apparently o had installed through Titanium, apparently that do NOT have market links.
Captivate 2.2.1 Paragon
MyAppList
The free program MyAppList will make a text file of all the apps installed on your phone. I am going to un-install any apps i do not want installed on the Atrix. Then print out MyAppList. Then go to the market place on my Captivate and goto "my apps" so that the market updates what I do and do not have on the phone. When the Atrix arrives, I will register with my same email. Then on the Atrix i will go to the market place so it will update the installed list. Then I will go market place on the PC and install all of my listed apps, checking off each one on MyAppList as I go. The advantages are I will be sure to get all the apps, there will be no question as to what is or is not installed, the Atrix will automatically install the apps and the apps will get updates thru the market. I have 397 apps installed on the phone, maybe 225 of them are 3rd party apps so it may take a couple of hours to download and install them all but since the Atrix runs so quickly it may go a lot faster.
My Captivate is maxed out. I have a lot of widgets running and am constantly running out of memory. And then there is the lag problem which gets worse when you are running out of memory. With 1 gig of ram there is plently of memory with room to spare. This is going to be a very welcomed upgrade.
I am wondering exactly when the phones will arrive at the AT&T store. Are there Sunday deliveries? Monday is Presidents Day. I am going to the store tomorrow (Sunday) to see if they arrived and see if they will give it to me.....
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After moving to 351 update (15609)
my apps were washed away. (thats ok, as I had too many apps installed anyway!)
Now, I have apks of all the softwares I had before, and which were useful.
Some are paid ones, of which I do not have the installer apks
For the free apps, which I installed without logging on to market, I am not able to see any update menu!
and they are not showing up in My apps (part in market) either.
-the "market" app has changed too (from what it was before.)
Help please.
Thanks,
Sony.
Another issue!
I see some notifications stick around a lot longer! (irritating!)
"Battery full Please remove charger" stays on for like 15 seconds.
Bluetooth voice dialing works well,
Wifi works with much better success rate of connecting!
MODs: Please rename thread as "Problems with 351 (15609)" or something similar.
Sony.
Note: I have already tried the Clear Cache solution.
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Damn: I tried to "Uninstall Updates for Market" in applications menu.
and now, the Market looks primitive!
whats wrong here!?
By uninstalling the market updates you went back to the oldest version of the market.
I can't help you with the apps, but it sounds as if you might need to flash your phone again.
Now new thing!
Today the phone got stuck at the lock screen (long time!)
then I restarted it through Power button long press.
Then the Dell logo kept coming again and again.. and it didnt boot~!
So, I removed the battery cover, and rebooted. then it was fine! (yikes)
I am on stock, no roots, no nothing yet!
Even the default update can cause problems?(Oh, I had not rebooted the phone since 2 days.. but I have gone longer before.. without the phone getting any slower!)
One thing is definitely mentionable though,
The battery life has been exceptional!!
Full charge in the morning (6 am - unplugged)
And, decent browsing (FB + gmail) + 40-50 mins of calls + games for 30-40 mins
and by 7 pm I still have 68% battery
That has been the case for past two days (since I upgraded 318 to 351)
@Strephon Alkhalikoi
you suggest, I flash the phone again?
hmm. Ok, will try that if nothing else works.
Any other suggestions on the table?
One more thing
I had used the Dell Backup and Restore > and used system settings restore too (in the options)
Just thought of putting it, as thats the only thing thats between the flash and the current problem. << (any relation?)
Help appreciated!
Sony
Re-flashed!
WEll,
i am officially going nuts!
I flashed the 351 update again.
everything nice and sweet..
But, hey!
Market is still behaving crazy!!
and App brain or anythin is also unable to do any good!
Guys! Please help!!
The Market is not showing apps, which I install off my SD card apks!!
whats wrong!?
Bonkers,
Sony
Anybody, yet?
Hey guys,
anybody ever faced such a problem?
Anybody know any solution ( that I havent mentioned in above posts? ).
Highly appreciate the help!
Sony.
When you install apks, they won't show in the market. You'll need to use an illegitimate market to show all installed apks (search google).
BlueCrystal said:
When you install apks, they won't show in the market. You'll need to use an illegitimate market to show all installed apks (search google).
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I did search google extensively!
My method of installing has a name: sideloading, (right?)
and, I see, that it 'does' show in the market for other guys!
and, Google search shows this as a sync-market issue!
people have some work arounds and all, but none is sure shot way of doing that.
I am looking for a solution.
Thanks,
Sony.
Are your free apps not showing up as installed either...
If you are using pirated apps they normally won't show up as installed, much less allow you to update without paying for them through the market.
Any free apps you use, you shouldn't install them from the sd card, rather install them directly from the market....
cdzo72 said:
Are your free apps not showing up as installed either...
If you are using pirated apps they normally won't show up as installed, much less allow you to update without paying for them through the market.
Any free apps you use, you shouldn't install them from the sd card, rather install them directly from the market....
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none of the apps are showing up (free + paid)
No pirated ones. Paid ones (only 2 of them, but, even those arent showing up!!)
About installing free apps from market-
well, that is one solution. but,
my question is exactly the corollary of that!
Why are sideloaded apps not showing up, when they did just finely show up, when I was on 318 !!?
What happens when you guys 'sideload' any app?
Let me know.
Thanks!
Sony.
P.S. People are discussing it on market.google.com/discussions as a 'market-sync' issue! as stated in prev post of mine.
*Sigh!*
Since google released their web-based market interface, the definitive list of apps on your phone (as shown in the market app) comes from the list on the website, which is the list of apps that were downloaded and installed through the market.
If you sideload something, it doesn't appear on this list.
In the past, pre- the web interface to the market, the definitive list was generated by the market app by scanning your phone. Not any more.
The only way now to get the apps to appear in the market app as installed is to install them through the market app (or market website).
Best workaround I know of is to use appbrain's app market. The app in that still scans your phone for the list, and can check for updates, and then uses the standard market to install the updates, so from then on the app is listed in the standard market.
So, basically, to get the apps listed in your standard market app's list, don't sideload.
Now, I just learned of a market backup program that you could have used beforehand, but that doesn't help much now :s.
jim-bo said:
Since google released their web-based market interface, the definitive list of apps on your phone (as shown in the market app) comes from the list on the website, which is the list of apps that were downloaded and installed through the market.
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Best workaround I know of is to use appbrain's app market. The app in that still scans your phone for the list, and can check for updates, and then uses the standard market to install the updates, so from then on the app is listed in the standard market.
So, basically, to get the apps listed in your standard market app's list, don't sideload.
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Ok, now it all makes sense, the world is beautiful again
I will try to do something now
Tanks man.
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Now, I just learned of a market backup program that you could have used beforehand, but that doesn't help much now :s.
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Ya, thanks to you too!
btw, what prog are you talking about?
<you not sharing 'that' doesn't help at all! .. >
Tanks people!
Sony.
I found the APK for the new market app on Engadget. It looks so sexy on the streak.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/12/google-updating-android-market-app-on-phones-adding-movies-and/
Sweet, thanks! I thought it was A new market app, not THE new market app!
Looks very sweet. Gonna have to rent a movie just to see how they look...
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Not sure why all of the enthusiasm for this.
The interface is cluttered and has changed the market app from one that provides a means to access useful extensions to your phone to a billboard for Google's offerings.
I tried it, uninstalled it and then froze the market updater so it won't DL to my phone automatically.
If your phone is rooted you can't view the movies, but instead of checking this in the market app and then disabling the rentals there Google allows you to rent a movie that the player then will not allow you to view.
There are no settings to turn off movie and book ares if you don't want them cluttering up the interface.
I agree....it is very cluttered. "My Apps" is now on the menu instead of in plain sight like previous versions.
What app did you use to freeze the market updater?
New market is too cluttered with nonsense.
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krazman325 said:
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What app did you use to freeze the market updater?
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I used Titanium Backup, but I am sure there are others that will work.
Nice one to the OP.
Im running it on a UK Streak and we dont have access to the Films and Books so its more app and game orientated. I really like it. It can be abit sluggish in the loading the apps but i like the layout.
Taddy
For those who want to try this. I copied the apk linked to in the first post to my sd card and clicked on it in a file explorer to install it.
To uninstall I went into manage applications, tapped on the market line and then tapped on Uninstall updates. This reverted me to the base market that came with the phone. I let it update automatically to the version that was on my phone prior to testing the new one. You will want to make a backup of the version you have if you like it to make it easier to return to.
If you decide you do not want this version to be automatically installed by Google you can freeze the app called Market Updater.
XDA POST Android Development and Hacking\Android Apps and Games\[APP]Download New Android Market APK here[Jul12]
NANDROID backup 1st. Pull Vending.apk via ADB or backup with root explorer recommended.
Link to new market APK
http://adamoid.com/dls/com.android.vending-1.apk.zip
Alternate Link:
http://www.multiupload.com/2TRUW4L630
I copied system\app\Vending.apk to my sdcard and simply installed the apk after I unzipped it with my computer first. Works as expected. I think the interface is great on our 5" screen.
Not sure about it on a regular phone... there is a lot of information there. It kind of looks like the WinPhone7 Metro UI to me.
nickshertzer said:
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Not sure about it on a regular phone... there is a lot of information there. It kind of looks like the WinPhone7 Metro UI to me.
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Looking like windows - now I know why I didn't like it.
yea it may be cluttered but I love it. its pure eye candy. I used to go to the market just to update my apps but now when I open it I can't help staying on it for ages... its look made me clutter my phone with apps
Installed it - and it decided to carry out a lot of updates to existing apps automatically - then everything I opened would force close... uninstalling at the moment.... ;(
steve_bubble said:
Installed it - and it decided to carry out a lot of updates to existing apps automatically - then everything I opened would force close... uninstalling at the moment.... ;(
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Tho - it all decided to play nicely when I got home! ;o)-)
I like this.
A lot.
Thanks for the tip.
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Sometimes if I have only 1 app with an update there is no option to update, only uninstall and open...weird
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Is there a way of updating apps i have downloaded onto my sd card ? I have a few installed but cant update them because i did'nt get them from the apps market place
Thanks
SD card has nothing to do with it, they're simply not linked with the market entry. Titanium Backup has an option to fix it called "Market Doctor".
Does this work with any downloaded app and on any phone ?
I have a HTC HD2 windows phone but has been altered to run on android
Thanks
Well, any rooted phone... I've got no idea what it'll do if the device isn't. It has worked with any application I've restored so far, meaning applications that were either free or that I bought.
I've got no idea what it'll do if the app is not in your account... which wouldn't be a good idea to begin with.
Tried the titanium backup ,still cant update apps from sd card ?
Did you do long-press on app, Attach to market (forced) in Titanium?
Done that but it's asking me to pay for the update
That has to be a different issue... if it's in your account, the Market replaces all "Buy" buttons with ones saying "Purchased", no matter whether you actually have it installed. Is it listed under "My Apps" this way?
Where did you get the apps from in the first place?
If you got them from another app store ie. Getjar, Amazon etc. you can only update through that store, even though it may be available on the Android Market.
EDIT: Unless, of course, they're free. Then you can just download the app you want updating from the Market, which will then notify you of future updates.
I downloaded it from a file share torrent. The app itself costs money so was looking to try and upgrade for free .There have been quite a few updates from the one i have downloaded so all the functions wont work , i have the basic things working but not all
In that case let me congratulate you on obtaining a free virus. Hopefully Google is as good at reading logs as they are at reading webpages.
jasext said:
I downloaded it from a file share torrent. The app itself costs money so was looking to try and upgrade for free .There have been quite a few updates from the one i have downloaded so all the functions wont work , i have the basic things working but not all
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Quoting complete failure right here. *facepalm.jpg*
You're admitting to obtaining warez on a developer forum.
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You know that what you're doing is illegal, right?
How can you expect updates for a paid app if you don't pay for it. People have to download it legally, crack it, and upload it to fileshare sites for every single update, so the update process isn't going to be fast.
I suggest you stop stealing and pay for the apps you want.
The actual app i downloded is free ,i am new to all this and only found out after downloading it ,dont think downloading free apps from a share site is illegal
Have a look at an app called Atrackdog. There are 2 versions one of which is to update apps on the SD card. The apps don't have to be from the market as far as I am aware.
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First of all, my Photon is rooted and I used a couple of the updates from the photon android development forums.
It is getting to where there are just too many market apps that I can not download. Some come up as not compatable (while I'm 100% sure they are compatable) and others just straight up don't show. It gets real interesting when I go to the android market on the web and try to get the apps.
The android market thinks that I have 2 Moto photons. One of the 2 photons, it will in fact allow me to send some of these incompatable apps to and the one that google SEES me on is "not compatable". I guess the market thinks my phone became a new phone when I did one of the updates. But yet this new photon is not compatable with many apps.
I was using my Acer Iconia tab to help me get some of these apps to my Photon, especially some of the ones I purchased. But now, I have 2 Iconia tabs too (even though the second one is again, the same device.)
Is there anything I can do? I loved Android since the day it came out. But it's getting to where I almost don't want it. I need an outlet to get apps but I don't want to ask people to upload apks. I know about the amazon market but not every app is there.
Is this a brand based problem? Cause though I love the Photon, I would switch in a minute if this wasn't the case. But it's also happening on my Iconia tab and it's happening more and more and one thing I just won't do is start asking if anyone has apks.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
OK, this will take me a minute (if you want a real explantion, or just skip to bottom where I talk about App Brain). I am sorta like you, I'm well over 100 Apps and use SPB 3D Shell to keep them orgainzed.
As for usage:
My Music
My Radio
Pandora
YouTube
Work Adobe
Work Excel
Work PPP
Adobe (Work, IBM, Personal)
10 years of tax returns
Military Documents
Collget transcripts
High School Documents
Stocks
Investments...............
I use my phones and like to keep them tight. I had and Evo and co-worker turned me on to App Brain.When I got Photon, I was in your position. I went to Market and more or less, installed everything I got individually.
You Sync App Brain, and when you get new phone, like I just did, tell it to put it all back (You still have to go to SPB 3D Shell and orgainze it, but it give you a start!)
Want more protection? Root it and get Titaniaum Backup, paid version!!! Backup all your crap each monday at 3:00AM (you know my schedule now), hook the phone up to computer as HD and move backup to your computer or USB drive (its not small!). If something ever happens to your phone, get titaniaum from market and use THAT backup to restore. The good thing about the paid version, not only will it put your app's back, it puts them back with the last configuration!!! Done!!!
Thank you for responding. But I do not believe that this helps. I already use Titanium Backup of course. But App Brain is just a market browser that still ultimately takes you to the market to download apps does it not? And the market will still list them as incompatable.
This is not going to let me download new versions of, for example, Swiftkey X, LCD Density, and even the ChaCha app. I would have to go find a friend who has a phone that's listed as compatible (even though the Photon IS compatible) and then back it up and transfer it. This makes for licensing problems for apps that I have purchased and I'm certain are compatable.
Because I can get many apps but there are many that I can not get, there is something that many developers do that apparently makes it compable with SOME Motorola Photons as far as the market goes. This is why I could easily download Titanium Backup but I can not download SwiftKey X which I paid for even though it IS compatable.
Can anybody help? I need a way to get apps that are compatible to the photon like swiftkey x onto my photon and the ability to keep them UPDATED. What I do not want is a way to keep them backed up, I already have that. I will switch phone brands if I need to but I absolutely require a phone or a fix for this phone on which this problem does not exist. Otherwise, it's useless to me as apps are updated often sometimes and I want those updates without running onto the net and asking people to please post an apk. Please reply if you have a solution. I am going to scream if I see that banner that says this app is not compatable with your phone again when market.android.com will send it to my older photon (which does not exist by the way. The market just recognizes my photon as a second photon after an update I did from the developer forums). Grrr, don't even want my photon now that the droid razor is out.
have you tried going into manage applications and clearing the data and cache from market. I had some problems with apps that were bought on both amazon and google and this allowed the apps to update from google.
Yes. I have cleared data from the market under manage applications. This does not do it. There are still apps that the android market refuses to let me install. Any such apps do not have an install or download button. Instead, there is just that banner on the very top that says "Your device is not compatible with this item." for many apps ever since I installed one of the updates and since then, I have 2 Photons listed when I look online. One of them, the android market will send these "incompatible apps" to and the other, it won't. Unfortunately, the device that android market will send the apps to is the same device as the one that the market sees as incompatible. It's like after one of the updates, the market reregistered my phone as a different phone. Same thing happened with my Iconia tab.
Does anybody have any ideas?
enigmatl said:
Does anybody have any ideas?
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You try going online and deleting the phones from your google account then log back into the app market and download a simple app so it can register
I've tried. As far as I know, you can't delete devices from your account on the market. You can only hide them from showing up on the menus. But yes, I've done that. It doesn't help.
never mind, i see now'
So is there anything that can be done?
First of all what ROM are you on, what mods(build.prop), and have you wiped google services data?
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found this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1388070
balinger16 said:
found this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1388070
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Oh thank you thank you thank you! (and thank clicked as well!) It was awesome of you to find that. Just to reiterate in case somebody else finds themselves having the same problem, to reiterate so it might come up in a google search for someone:
If you have a Motorola Photon (or many other phones), and over time, you notice that something isn't right with the market and some apps that you always ran are suddenly not compatible any more and perhaps the Android market sees you having several phones, if you changed your screen density with a program such as LCD Density Changer, the android market now will see you coming in with a different phone. For example, according to the Android market, I have a Moto Photon with a density of 240 and a Moto Photon with a density of 280. Perhaps because of the criteria that some app makers chose, some of their apps (like Messagease for instance) may be compatible with a Photon with a density of 240 but not a Photon with the density of 280 (even though they do in fact work just fine).
So, the solution is this. Change your density if you like. But, to get those programs that may become "incompatible", switch the density back to the way that it was out of the box.
Thank you very much for finding this information! It helped a lot!
Glad to help
Okay I have applications on my tablet that i got through alternative ways, and the market shows i payed for them but i didn't so i cannot update them. I want to pay so i can get updates but the problem is i cant get the market to allow me to pay for them because its linked to my google account. Is there a way around it so i can pay for it? I tried using titanium backup to destroy the market link but that's a no go, still shows i payed it so i cant buy to update. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you and i will hit your thanks button.
Try and backup the app + data, uninstall, reboot, purchase and restore just the data.
Have you tried uninstalling the app(s) using Titanium Backup (keep the backup, just hit the uninstall button) ,then go to the market, re-install and purchase the app? Even though the market says purchased, when you go to update, you will never be able to without actually purchasing through the market because the market keeps track of what you purchase by association of your gmail. Tempting as it may be, NEVER get paid apps outside of the market for at least 2 important reasons : 1. SUPPORT DEVS! These apps take time and expertise and a number of other things, I'm sure you don't work for free, right? 2. Malware can be added to apps and you won't even know it, even if you use the latest/best antivirus/malware protection available! At least in the market you have a degree of protection against such bad things because a Dev does not want bad reviews and Google's Bouncer checks apps before they are allowed to be listed to minimize the chance of mailicious software. Sorry, really tried hard not to preach, just some friendly advice.
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kmulliger said:
Tempting as it may be, NEVER get paid apps outside of the market for at least 2 important reasons : 1. SUPPORT DEVS! These apps take time and expertise and a number of other things, I'm sure you don't work for free, right? 2. Malware can be added to apps and you won't even know it, even if you use the latest/best antivirus/malware protection available! At least in the market you have a degree of protection against such bad things because a Dev does not want bad reviews and Google's Bouncer checks apps before they are allowed to be listed to minimize the chance of mailicious software. Sorry, really tried hard not to preach, just some friendly advice.
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I have had this issue before too, and all my apps are from legal sources. OP may have done nothing wrong, because Amazon app store, getjar, and others show up this way in the Market. In TiBu, you can long press a problem app and select unattach to market and it will not show up. But if you want updates and to keep your data, the best way is what Gibeon said.
Correct I've gotten and paid on other markets. Ty for all the suggestions, ill try them out. Some apps I don't know what market I used for payment, but I rather just to buy again then figure it out. I did try uninstalling through titanium backup, a while back I used titanium backup and used the option of market doctor and somehow it links it to Google and can't figure it out to get rid of it. If I delete an app and destroy market link and go to Google online even with my computer it says I have purchased it already but errors out to get it. I'll mess around with it, shoot I guess I can make a second gmail to do it lol. Again thanks for your help