Very Important Information For Beginners
/Introduction to Android for SD Cards
Okay, firstly I made this thread because pretty much every new person to this section of the forums is completely lost and unsure what things are or what to even do. We are also sick and tired of threads saying 'how do I get stared' or 'which is the most stable' etc.
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Download your files from here:
You will be accessing these websites quite often so it might pay to bookmark them
Kernel downloads, almost always download the top one, they are updated often (needs extracting): http://glemsom.users.anapnea.net/android2/htc-msm-linux/
Rootfs downloads, download the top one, they aren't updated as often as the kernels above but still quite regularly (also needs extracting): http://files.xdandroid.com/rootfs/
Initrd downloads, rarely updated (don't extract, just rename to initrd.gz) http://files.xdandroid.com/initramfs/ People almost never need to download one of these separately.
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Basic need-to-knows:
Kernel: Your modules/zImage. Your zImage always needs be in the root (first folder) of your android folder on your SD and ALWAYS named zImage, your modules should also be in the root of your android folder named modules-LOTSofNUMBERSandLETTERS.tar.gz never rename your modules. It should always be in .tar.gz EG: modules-2.6.27.46-01276-g6a6a1c1-dirty.tar.gz
Rootfs: Must be in the root of your android folder named rootfs.img
Initrd: Needs to be in the root of your android folder named initrd.gz
Data.img: Generated on the first boot of android and placed in root of android folder. Is a virtual memory file that acts as the phones internal memory for android. Holds all your settings etc. May have to be recreated some times (just by deleting it)
Haret.exe: the file executed by your Windows ROM to kick Windows out of memory and boot android.
system.ext2: Main android file, must be in the root of your android folder. Holds all of your build.
startup.txt: File that instructs android how to start up. Needs to be in the root of your SD. (I will cover this further down)
ts-calibration: A file in the android folder that holds calibration information of the touch screen.
Various Folders: You will see/have/need other various folders created in the root of your SD and in the root of the android folder, such as conf, cache, data, media etc. You usually don't want to delete these.
Root: The root folder of any partition is the "highest" folder in the hierarchy. The root folder contains all other folders and can also contain files. For example, the root folder of the main partition on your computer is probably C:\. The root folder of your DVD or CD drive might be D:\.
Also Known As: "the root"
RIL: Radio interface layer: basically controls your radio (GSM/CDMA network)
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startup.txt
VERY IMPORTANT, your startup.txt must be customized to your device. (mine is a rhod110). You can find your model number under your battery. This file belongs in the folder with your android.
My startup.txt looks like this
Code:
set ramsize 0x10000000
set ramaddr 0x10000000
set mtype 2292
set KERNEL zImage
set initrd initrd.gz
set cmdline "lcd.density=240 msmvkeyb_toggle=off gsensor_axis=2,1,3 pm.sleep_mode=1 rel_path=FRX07 physkeyboard=rhod100_uk acpuclock.oc_freq_khz=710000"
boot
Now I believe you should be able to copy and use this as yours with a few slight modifications. Change rel_path= to wherever your android is stored on your sd, for example when I go to my sd inside the folder frx07 (the root of my android folder) all my android files are there. If your folder was called andboot it would be rel_path=andboot. (without that full stop) Now change your physkeyboard= to your model of your phone, mine is rhod110 but the rhod100_uk keymap is EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE RHOD110 so that's why I use rhod100_uk instead of rhod110 (rhod110 isn't recognised by frx07), this is important to make sure your keys are assigned properly.
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Models of rhod:
From what I know that exists. If you find one not listed, make sure you tell me so I can update the list
rhod110 uses rhod100_uk and it works as it should
These can be used for physkeyboard= in startup.txt (needs updating, some may no longet be supported because F22 hasn't commited old changes)
rhod100_de
rhod100_es
rhod100_fr
rhod100_it
rhod100_nl
rhod100_nordic
rhod100_uk
rhod210
rhod300 (tilt2)
rhod400
rhod500
Getting set up:
Go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1171052 and download the FULL BUNDLE
Other builds exist such as gingerbread but this guide only covers froyo frx07.
Replace/add the Kernel from the downloaded build with the latest one (remember this is the zImage and modules-NUMBERS.tar.gz). Updating is as simple as this, do it often - there is no data loss. See links mentioned above for links. Making sure that the (if there were) old kernel files are all deleted and the new ones are called zImage and modules-NEWdifferentNUMBERS.tar.gz
Replace/add the rootfs.img with the latest one from the link above it should be named rootfs.img.
Remember that the rootfs and kernel are updated quite often and that you should check and update every few days.
Make sure your startup.txt is correct and make sure everything is where it should be in a folder on your computer, then copy the folder to the root of your sd card.
Navigate to this folder using the file explorer in your Windows ROM (YOUR PHONE) and run the Haret.exe
It will then have some writing running down a black screen before booting android (it's just preparation to booting) read it if you want
Android will start and you should leave it about 2-5 minutes before touching anything, it has things running in the background and it will be slow, still setting itself up. Navigate to settings and set up your phone. If anything goes too badly wrong you can always delete data.img and start again! Data.img is the internal memory of the phone, remember? Well, until we get android working on the real internal memory...
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Structure:
My SD card. (with android on it)
I'm running:
kernel: 20110819_183957 http://glemsom.users.anapnea.net/android2/htc-msm-linux/
build: Froyo FRX07http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1171052
rootfs: rootfs-20110816-7e04198.zip from http://files.xdandroid.com/rootfs/
Code:
EncFiltLog.menc
kbd_info
Android
cache
download
tmp
Private
Games
Installs
DCIM
Others
Videos
Images
Sounds
media
frx07
rhodimg.nbh
My android is in frx07
inside my frx07:
Code:
data.img
ts-calibration
startup.txt
modules-2.6.27.46-01348-g9de837f.tar.gz
zImage
haret.exe
initrd.gz
system.ext2
AndroidApps
conf
media
rootfs.img
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Backup/Restore
when you have the need to backup and restore data, look for an app called Titanium Backup. I have never used it but heard it works brilliantly, even backing up your apps! There is a 'donation' version and a free version with not many differences. I suggest you go check it out!
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USB CONNECTIVITY
When your phone is in Android you can not use it like a USB, HTC's drivers will not work and you have to use certain programs until this is implemented.
Windows: Install DroidExplorer this lets you open a terminal (like command prompt) on the phone, lets you browse device adding/deleting files, among other features that are very useful. If that DroidExplorer doesn't pick up your phone (when picked up it will be called 0000000000) install PDAnet on your phone and pc. PDAnet provides the drivers needed to connect the phone. It also lets you use your phone as a modem and you can send SMSs using your computer. Do NOT run PDANET at the same time as DroidExplorer. When PDANET is connected it WILL use your phone for data connections - this is the only warning. The phone is not used for any networking when DroidExplorer is connected.
Mac: Unknown to me (can someone post?)
Linux: Never tried, it is easier than windows (can someone post a method?)
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Overclocking
Do NOT overclock WINMO.
If you want to overclock your device do so at your own risk.
it is as simple as adding "acpuclock.oc_freq_khz=710000" without quotes to your startup.txt cmdline. 710000 (approx 710 mhz) can be swapped for any number but this is practically the highest stable speed achievable. I use 710000, works fine for me.
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Known problems across ALL BUILDS:
Media Player Some tracks might have playing issues. FIX: HERE
Bluetooth is experiemental
Speakerphone static : seemingly random issue
USB plugging the device into a computer, it will be recognised, but not by HTC drivers. FIX: You must use something like DroidExplorer and PDAnet to browse the device and ADB (android debug bridge). See above ^^ (USB tethering is being fixed/has been fixed)
FN LED On keyboard the caps LED works but the FN LED currently does not. FN still works fine
No deep sleep: FIX: disable GPS (or kill the running app causing phone to not sleep)
Failure booting Android: Phone fails to enter android after running haret.exe FIX: Make sure your winmo is NOT overclocked before booting android.
Booting or SD Card related problems: Make sure your card is formatted as FAT32 (reformat as Full Format if it is not working)
More information is available on the wiki, there is also information there if you want to get into development. There is a pretty good FAQ on that wiki too
Remember XDAndroid is not just for this device.
If any of this is wrong or you think something should be updated/changed, please tell me
The CDMA startup should have "board-htcrhodium.is_cdma=1" instead of "...is_gsm=0"
otherwise, looks good!
AkumaX said:
The CDMA startup should have "board-htcrhodium.is_cdma=1" instead of "...is_gsm=0"
otherwise, looks good!
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Indeed, there is no "is_gsm" command .
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Indeed, there is no "is_gsm" command .
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Thanks to both of you, not bad considering I don't even have a cdma phone eh?
anything I need to add? I will tidy it all up soon
Something that might catch out a beginner is if they have an older SD card and it isn't detected by more recent kernels.
Need to include this in the cmdline:
msmsdcc_1bit msmsdcc_fmax=14000000
the.decoy said:
Something that might catch out a beginner is if they have an older SD card and it isn't detected by more recent kernels.
Need to include this in the cmdline:
msmsdcc_1bit msmsdcc_fmax=14000000
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I thought this was squashed in recent kernels?
arrrghh said:
saneksem said:
add that to startup,helped me on 2 gb card
msmsdcc_1bit msmsdcc_fmax=14000000 msmsdcc_nopwrsave
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You don't need this if you're on a newer kernel!!!!
Just update your kernel folks, no need for this in the startup!
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Oh, ok. I must have missed that. I only needed it on my older SD which I haven't tried using for a month or so.
I guess the only thing I would suggest (all minor things) would be maybe to bold/underline keywords, like "kernel", "rootfs", etc.. to differentiate things that may change over time; ex: I'm running FRX05 system.ext2, 3/1/11 rootfs from F22, 3/1/11 zImage/modules (kernel) from arrgghh, etc... And, I guess you "could" be nice and show people what they could edit in the startup.txt, depending on their phone; ex: I'm Sprint, so I would do kb=rhod400, cdma=1, etc..., but for each phone.
I would probably have to do all the different startup.txt's in a different thread, unless I just provide a quick table... I will think about it however I do like the idea about bolding key words.
Most new people don't realize if they have their call/end/windows/back buttons on in winmo, they will stay on while on android and never go off. Might want to put that in your first post before telling them to run haret...
at the end where you say you can just delete the data.img and startover its probably a better idea to say to be patient and reboot the phone once or twice before ditching your data.img ! and creating it is the bulk of the first boot, the linux black screen with the scrolling words section.
you can talk about saving your data.img just incase something goes wrong.
titanium backup is a must
having an app that can save sms when you switch builds (not a big deal for everyone but important to some.)
also let new users know android isn't perfect, things randomly completely mess themselves all the time, don't get discouraged just start fresh with a format and new files when deleting the data.img doesn't work and you'll be just fine.
All I want to know now is if I have helped anyone yet and if they had any problems with any part of it or want me to clarify anything I will be quite happy with such replies ^-^
Is anyone able to provide me with some ETAs of fixes on the problems across all builds listed in the OP? Also are there any more I am not aware of? Oh and if anyone is working on them?
Much Appreciated
ryannathans said:
Is anyone able to provide me with some ETAs of fixes on the problems across all builds listed in the OP? Also are there any more I am not aware of? Oh and if anyone is working on them?
Much Appreciated
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There's never an ETA for anything getting fixed - BT seems close, but who knows the exact date it will be done? As CyanogenMod says, the only rule is don't ask for release dates / ETA. It'll be ready when it's ready.
Some problems are being looked into more than others, but I wouldn't say one in particular has been left out to rot. jb is fixing up BT, entropy is working on GPS fixes, wistilt2 on the RIL of late... Basically devs pickup things that are of an interest to them to fix. There's a lot still to fix/cleanup, so taking it all on alone is a little daunting. Gotta break it down into smaller pieces so it's at least somewhat manageable.
Thanks and a question...
First, thanks for the awesome post - quite helpful...
Second: I haven't mussed with my phone for about a year, for various reasons, the main one being that I was happy with my previous phone and the ROM I finally settled on, the secondary one being that phone died, and I now have a (blech) Sprint TouchPro2 (RHOD400), and am on my sixth (yes, sixth!) brand new TP2 - they keep giving me a new one because of problems (things, like... oh... say, not being able to answer calls... kind of a basic function in a mobile phone, nah?!) And, I've had no interest in futzing with what is already a frustrating and non-functional phone. I was hoping I could upgrade instead of getting another TP2 the last time I brought it in for probs, but they would only downgrade me to worse phones. So... here I am, wanting to put Android on my phone and see if there is any improvement. Or, at the least, be able to utilize some of the decent progz/gamez for Android. I mean, if I can't answer calls, at least I can use it as a handheld gaming system, right?!
Long story short: when I was flashing ROMs to other phones, the instructions explicitly said that you needed to unlock, etc., first. I can't find any data re: if there are steps you must take on your phone to 'prep' it, *before* following the steps in this thread. I've browsed the DB and no luck.
My apologies for being an annoying n00b!
PS: one of my friends said "Tell 'em you're a hawt babe - then they'll help for sure!" (ROFL)
And, thanks, again!
Tynkrrbell said:
Long story short: when I was flashing ROMs to other phones, the instructions explicitly said that you needed to unlock, etc., first. I can't find any data re: if there are steps you must take on your phone to 'prep' it, *before* following the steps in this thread. I've browsed the DB and no luck.
My apologies for being an annoying n00b!
And, thanks, again!
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Well the reason you can't find any info on it, is that it's not required .
These builds run entirely off of the SD (currently - I wouldn't try NAND yet, it's in its infancy) so there's no need to do any HardSPL or anything really to prep - just drop the bundle on your SD card - if it's at the root, run haret.exe and gogogo!
Oi. I get the stupidcard of the day!
That is awesome! Same friend that suggested I mention I am a 'hawt babe' said I should "give boobpr0n" to whomever helped me. You probably wouldn't want to see that, though!
You are heartily appreciated! I'm off to be an Androidite!!!!!!
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That is awesome! Same friend that suggested I mention I am a 'hawt babe' said I should "give boobpr0n" to whomever helped me. You probably wouldn't want to see that, though!
You are heartily appreciated! I'm off to be an Androidite!!!!!!
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My gf suffices for that .
Hope you enjoy Android!
Tynkrrbell said:
That is awesome! Same friend that suggested I mention I am a 'hawt babe' said I should "give boobpr0n" to whomever helped me. You probably wouldn't want to see that, though!
You are heartily appreciated! I'm off to be an Androidite!!!!!!
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Not to burst any bubbles here, but if you are saying you are a "hawt babe" and give boobpr0n mumbo jumba, you are prolly not one and won't give it anyways.. so nobody will most likely believe you here..
Good luck though~
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Hey guys, so I searched and search, using the search function as described in the forum rules, and couldn't come across anything with this nature, so if anyone has an urge to help out a noob I would really appreciate it!
So I downloaded the new Android Desire V4 rom, someone told me there were instructions in the download, which there were...they read as follows...
set mtype 2524
set ramaddr 0x20000000
set ramsize 0x0fc00000
set KERNEL zImage
set initrd initrd.gz
set initrd_offset 0x00a00000
set cmdline ""
boot
So my question is, again, um how do I do any of that! LOL Those look like a list of things I am supposed to do as opposed to actual instructions on how to do them LOL
If I run HaRet, it boots, but from my understanding I need to do the above list to make it functioning to it's (current) fullest potential?
Thanks for any assists!
i haven't tried android, not interested in kids play things, but that to me lookslike a list of setup commands, , sure they aren't supposed to go in an initialization file of some kind?
thats the startup txt details, and all you hav to do is copy it all to ur sd root and thats it its honestly not worth it at the min unless u just gonna play about for a bit
hmm
samsamuel said:
i haven't tried android, not interested in kids play things, but that to me lookslike a list of setup commands, , sure they aren't supposed to go in an initialization file of some kind?
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Probably, but I don't even know what that means! LOL
I am like a super noob..haha.
I guess I am asking specifically what you would do, every step, to do the list of setup commands.
1. How do I change to those values, like which part of the phone I go into.
2. If they need to be installed, how exactly, specifically do I install them.
I am basically looking for full instructions. For example if I were teaching someone to watch a DVD who has never used a DVD/movie playing device before, I wouldn't just say "put it in and watch it." I would say. "This is the power button. Click that to turn the device on. This is the open tray button, click this, and place the DVD shiny/mirror side down flat. Click the open tray button again to close the tray. Once closed it should automatically play, if not click the button with the sideways triangle on it to start the movie."
Like that is how nooby I am with this stuff LOL..but not stupid enough to change something I shouldn't, screw something up. If the instructions are there, I got it.
Demon_man said:
thats the startup txt details, and all you hav to do is copy it all to ur sd root and thats it its honestly not worth it at the min unless u just gonna play about for a bit
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So I don't have to do anything? I have booted Android Desire V4 rom about 22 times so far, and every single time it is stuck in fast forward mode, does not give me the sim option like in the instructions on the website to download the file, and is generally the exact opposite of what everyone is claiming it is/doing.
So I would assume I am missing some key crucial steps no? Also My radio rom is fine, I reformatted my SD Card, it's fresh and all files are on the root of the card. From the sounds of it, you have to do something with the zImage (from what I have read), and something else... this is why I am confused.
as far as i'm aware there are still a few issues where certain models cant run it properly? and isn't there something about there being a few different digitizers, and it only works on some? (that might not be an issue anymore, i've not been keeping up)
i tried android quite a few times on my previous device (htc kaiser). i believe nearly the same concepts apply to the HD2 at the current stage of android development for the HD2.
facts:
1. you should know that android's files are to be kept on the sd card according to the instructions (more details here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719646)
2. you should know that your windows and any settings made under windows will remain INTACT. this is because android, being in the storage card, is like an independent operating system.
3. point 2 above implies that any settings specific to windows or specifically made in the windows system settings (etc) have NO IMPACT on android. so no need to ask:
1. How do I change to those values, like which part of the phone I go into.
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4. the only things important to android are the radio ROM version and MAYBE the (Hard)SPL version.
5. android is spun into action using "haret". haret is a little program that is started from windows but it essentially kicks out windows (temporarily) and tricks the phone into booting android from the sd card.
so from all of the above points, we can conclude that any and all configurations for android must be made in some text files. this text file must be placed according to the instructions somewhere along side haret and the rest of the android files on the sd card. this should answer:
2. If they need to be installed, how exactly, specifically do I install them.
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this text file, as suggested by demon_man in post 3 in this thread is the "startup.txt". another name for startup.txt is "default.txt". these files are the same, except that haret pre-selects "default.txt" as your startup script when you launch haret. this saves you the step of manually selecting a particular startup file (you can have a bunch of startup files with different settings in each to experiment and you can name them ANYTHING). so after experimenting, you should arrive at a startup file containing configurations that work well for you. you can then name this file as "default.txt" and you can also optionally delete all the other startup files you created while you were experimenting.
i hope the above gives you some idea of what to do. if i had tried android on the HD2 for myself and if i had personally done more research of android on the HD2, i would have certainly given you some links of material that i am CERTAIN already exists, if you fancy searching just a little bit. being a noob is no excuse, because "search" is the FIRST forum rule. and just saying that you searched without posting some example keywords of what you searched for sounds "fishy", so not sure you searched well
i have written the above to help you build your concept, but we would all applaud for you (yay!) if you post in the appropriate threads for android and android tutorials from now on. i doubt you will need to post more because what i have tried to detail for you above should be a very solid foundation for you to understand how the wonderful people here at xda have gotten android to work on devices it was never released for.
Hey guys.
So in the last couple months I ported the encore u-boot menu/console/configuration stuff over to acclaim (Nook Tablet). The acclaim really needed the menu plus had a ton of "2nd bootloader" issues that needed to be addressed to fix the locked bootloader bug. On nemith's suggestion, the u-boot really isn't just for cm7/9 (it can be used with any OS), so I called the newer bootloader, "CyanoBoot". Kind of a working title until I think of something better.
In the process of the acclaim port, the UI menuing interface was rewritten and some small features were added.
Anyhoo... Last night on a whim I decided to port the improvements back to encore's u-boot. So there's a version now for encore as well so that NC can enjoy the UI benefits.
It's similar to the acclaim version, minus fastboot (which we don't need, since encore doesn't use dedicated boot and recovery partitions) and minus a 'clear bootcount' setting since, well, development is up to speed w/NC that such a feature seems not necessary.
That said, here's the new stuff:
new exciting splash
Indicator in top left. "E" means u-boot is loading from emmc. "S" means it's loading from Sdcard.
Additionally you can now see the system's "boot count" - the number after the indicator described above. If this count goes up, your boot count is not being cleared as it should be.
Instruction to "hold down "n" for menu"
boot menu is way easier to use, clearer, and uncluttered.
all the old stuff is there (Nook Color Tweaks' boot settings), combo keys, etc.
If you feel bold and are willing to risk everything, give it a try and let me know if you run into issues. Think of this as an alpha. If people like it, I'll push it to the repo as the default.
To install: It's just "u-boot.bin", and it goes in the first partition of your SD or EMMC. Make sure you have a good backup in case things screw up.
NOTICE: CYANOBOOT (WORKING TITLE) IS HIGHLY EXPERIMENTAL AND IS NOT INTENDED TO BE USED BY NON-DEVELOPERS AND/OR THOSE UNWILLING TO ACCEPT FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANY UNTOWARD CONSEQUENCES OF USING (OR ATTEMPTING TO USE) THE SOFTWARE. ALL SUCH ACTIVITY MUST OCCUR *ENTIRELY AT YOUR OWN RISK* AND YOU ACCEPT ALL CONSEQUENCES FOR DOING SO. THE USE OR ATTEMPTED USE MAY HAVE UNINTENDED RESULTS, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO LOSS OF DATA, DAMAGE TO HARDWARE, AND/OR EXPLOSIVE DIARRHEA. CYANOBOOT IS NOT ENDORSED, AFFILIATED, SPONSORED, NOR ASSOCIATED WITH THE "DAS U-BOOT" PROJECT, GOOGLE, BARNES AND NOBLE LLC, TEXAS INSTRUMENTS, DENX., NOR ANY OF THEIR PARTNERS, OWNERS, EMPLOYERS, AFFILIATES, CLIENTS, SUBCONTRACTORS, OFFICERS, DIRECTORS, ADMINSTRATORS, INFORMATION PROVIDERS, ETC. EXCEPT INSOFAR AS THEY HAVE PROVIDED AND LICENSED SOURCE CODE TO BE FURTHER MODIFIED AND DISTRIBUTED. SEE THE RELEVANT GNU PUBLIC LICENSE FOR LICENSING DETAILS AND OTHER DISCLAIMERS. THIS SOFTWARE IS OBVIOUSLY INTENDED FOR USE ONLY BY THOSE WHO ARE AUTHORIZED TO DO SO.
Aside from thanks mentioned in the acclaim thread, I want to add thanks to hacdan and racks for testing for me on emmc and sd.
Seriously though, as opposed to the acclaim version that was in development for weeks, this has been tested for like an hour. On the other hand I actually have a device to try it.
Update March 28, 2012
So thanks to some hard work from tonsofquestions, we've got a new version with some very cool improvements!!!
New Stuff
* The UI now dims out any option in the menu that isn't available
* some nice code refactoring that I was too lazy to do
* the "altboot" button combo (up and down volume keys) will now choose regular boot if altboot is set as default (and vice versa)
* You can now enable a previously "hidden" menu option (plus a second configuration menu) by doing the following commands:
adb shell echo "0" > /rom/u-boot.altboot
adb shell echo "0" > /rom/u-boot.device
This unlocks a "built-in" default menu, effectively doing the same thing as the Tablet Tweaks build options, only right from u-boot itself!
Please test from various configurations (emmc/sdcard/normalboot/altboot/etc/etc)... I haven't tested this one as thoroughly.. or really thoroughly at all. And thanks to tonsofquestions for the contribution!
updates:
9/20/12: Two minor fixes...
9/19/12: Moved to a new repository at nookiedevs.
3/28/12: New features from tonsofquestions. See update notice above.
3/16/12: Clear the "Push n for menu" message on screen once boot has been determined.
cyanoboot-12-9-20.tar.gz
(source)
Another post.
Dumb question, I don't see a u-boot.bin using Root Explorer looking in root. Shouldn't there be one there that I am replacing with this new one? Or just copy it in there and reboot?
911jason said:
Dumb question, I don't see a u-boot.bin using Root Explorer looking in root. Shouldn't there be one there that I am replacing with this new one? Or just copy it in there and reboot?
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It would go in /boot-- or partition 1. On emmc it looks like: /dev/block/mmcblk0p1 on SD it's /dev/block/mmcblk1p1.
There should indeed be one there already. Along with uImage, uRamdisk, etc...
it's not usually mounted by default. One way to access it is to use these commands from your computer:
$ adb shell mkdir /data/mnt
$ adb shell mount -t vfat /dev/block/mmcblk0p1 /data/mnt
$ adb shell cp /data/mnt/u-boot.bin /data/mnt/u-boot.bin.old
$ adb push u-boot.bin /data/mnt/
$ adb reboot
$ is the prompt, of course. Here's what they do:
1. make a "mount point" (a directory) at /data/mnt so that you can
2. mount the vfat boot partition (p1) at that mount point. Then,
3. backup your old u-boot.bin in case this one is deeply flawed
3. push your local copy of u-boot.bin (CyanoBoot) on top of the old one, and
4. reboot and hope it doesn't crash.
Good luck, and my apologies in advance if/when this screws up. Remember, you are assuming all risk here
(you can also do it by loading clockworkmod, mounting boot to /boot and then backing up and/or pushing u-boot.bin to /boot)
911jason said:
Dumb question, I don't see a u-boot.bin using Root Explorer looking in root. Shouldn't there be one there that I am replacing with this new one? Or just copy it in there and reboot?
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its in the boot partition
Works like a charm! Very nice!
thanks fattire, this in my opinion is much nicer then the other menu we have available to us. hope to see you polish this off
ehh, the possibilities of running 4 OS's with this makes me smile
Dropped it into one of Eyeballer's nightly opengl zips (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1526115) and it works great! Thanks fattire!
Excellent work, Thanks
Been following your development on the NT even though I don't have one. I was hoping this would be ported sooner or later.
Can someone please drop this into a normal ZIP file and put it somewhere where it can be downloaded?
Thanks....
I think the whole purpose of it being compressed in the gz format is to prevent people thinking it was an installable zip file... but I could be wrong...
To use this file google search for win-gz... a simple free gzip windows utility.
If fattire gives the ok... I will upload a rar file containing the bin file.
Additionally:
@ fattire... is it ok if I include this in my file for customizing ROM's in this post instead of the cyanogen u-boot.bin?
DizzyDen said:
I think the whole purpose of it being compressed in the gz format is to prevent people thinking it was an installable zip file... but I could be wrong...
To use this file google search for win-gz... a simple free gzip windows utility.
If fattire gives the ok... I will upload a rar file containing the bin file.
Additionally:
@ fattire... is it ok if I include this in my file for customizing ROM's in this post instead of the cyanogen u-boot.bin?
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Sure and sure. Be sure to include the GPL notice.
CyanoBoot in RAR
Thanks to fattire for all the hard work put in for our devices... and with his ok... here is the CyanoBoot in RAR format for those that have difficulties with gz files.
I will keep this updated and named to coincide with development.
DizzyDen said:
I think the whole purpose of it being compressed in the gz format is to prevent people thinking it was an installable zip file... but I could be wrong...
To use this file google search for win-gz... a simple free gzip windows utility.
If fattire gives the ok... I will upload a rar file containing the bin file.
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Thx Dizzy....I'll find the win-gz and use that.
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Works great on an SD card using CM7
Thanks Fattire!
Good to go in my opinion, great work as always fattire.. my nook and tp would be collecting dust if it wasn't for your hard work
Just since we're chiming in here, yeah looks ready to me too. I've been testing several types of software this last week, some of which require flashing and rebooting for what seems to be all day. No joke, I have probably rebooted 60+ times since I downloaded this yesterday. Multiple installations, multiple configurations. No dual-emmc, but everything else has worked great.
It has been kind of bittersweet to lose the little green box though, even to such an obvious upgrade. Despite all the crap I've tried on this thing, once that logo showed up, I knew it was gonna be okay, ya know?
I have had a totally different relationship with technology since the very first time I laid eyes on it.
Good of time as any to thank the commenters on this thread in particular.
Heh. I know what you mean re that green logo (from drakknar, btw). For me it was a HUGE battle to get a multi-colored logo to appear in the first place ...This commit and this one took many, many cycles of booting and rebooting... and trying to figure out how to get the pallette to work, etc. Before it, the u-boot could only do black and white logos (does anyone remember the "Loading..." text?) and it looked pretty awful. But nemith made a good case that for the next revision, the newer u-boot might be rebranded since it's not the start up for only CM... Still, I kept the "cyano" part in the name as a tribute...
Thanks for testing, and I'm glad y'all are having success. Maybe tomorrow I'll push to the repo.
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It has been kind of bittersweet to lose the little green box though, even to such an obvious upgrade. Despite all the crap I've tried on this thing, once that logo showed up, I knew it was gonna be okay, ya know?
I have had a totally different relationship with technology since the very first time I laid eyes on it.
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Just curious: Tell me about your relationship with technology and how it's changed? I feel like the NC in the last year has really helped me to learn a LOT.
OFF-TOPIC (spoiler alert).
I got a replacement nook for the one my wife got me at Christmas last October. I was absolutely flabbergasted that they has changed the storage so that it couldn't hold the books and music I had sideloaded on the original. I looked to see what I could do, and followed directions to repartition the emmc.Flashing the ROM was an afterthought.
I didn't know before finding the info that the reader had external storage. I didn't know what an sdcard was. I had to sign up for Gmail. My last computer died because of the Love Bug.
Yes.
The only reason I registered here was because I couldn't understand why every time I tried to install the Google Music Manager .exe, it wouldn't work.
Today I decompiled a services file and edited it, so I could share it with others. I spent this evening testing a package distro system. I posted in the forum and some of the words are in color!
My wife bought me an e-reader, you know? These things you've made have had a big impact and it can't only happening to me.
Thanks fattire! Have it on my SD and it works great!
I'm not sure if this is a bug or just a user common sense issue, but if you select an Alternate boot from the menu without actually having an alternate image, the Nook freezes on "Loading AltBoot from"... requiring a hard reset.
Obviously, if you don't have an Alternate boot, you wouldn't be selecting it. But I wasn't sure if there could be a potential improvement, like if Cyanoboot doesn't detect an uAltImg, it wouldn't give it as an option?
I take no credit for any of this, I have just put together things I have found on various threads.
As you all know the touch screen calibration that runs at boot does not work with any of the newer kernels as you cannot see some of the cross hairs to tap. I have personally NEVER been able to produce my own accurate ts-calibration file and have been using an ancient one that I downloaded back in the early days of FRX (thank you arrrghhh). Hopefully you have a somewhat functional ts-calibration file as you need to carry out this procedure from within Android. Here we go... (it's easy)
1. Download HtcCalibrate_WVGA.apk, thanks to lukas.pce, attached to first post here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1457343 to your device.
2. Install HtcCalibrate_WVGA.apk
3. Run HTC Calibrate and follow the instructions, tapping all the points (I used a toothpick for added accuracy)
4. When complete the app will report 'Calibration complete', tap 'Done'. Your screen should now be accurately calibrated for this session. Test to make sure it is working correctly before proceding to next step.
5. Now to get the calibration data to stick after reboot: Open your file explorer (MUST HAVE ROOT ACCESS; I use ES File Explorer with Menu>Settings>'Up to Root' checked) and navigate to /sys/devices/virtual/input/input3/ there you should see a file named calibration_points.
**It seems that in some builds (perhaps depending on kernel version?) that the devices get defined differently and I have found the file calibration_points in /sys/devices/virtual/input/input2/.
**So if you can't find it in input3/ then check input2/ (I haven't seen it anywhere else, but it probably could be in input1/, 4/, or 5/ as well, if not in the first two).6. Finally copy calibration_points to /sdcard/ (the root of your SD card), delete your existing ts-calibration file (or backup somewhere if you want) and rename calibration_points to ts-calibration.
**Nand users see this (thanks wizardnight!):
wizardknight said:
BTW on the nand version (GBX0* + 3.3.x kernel) it needs to be placed in /data/
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Done. Your phone should now boot with the calibration data you created.
So that is where it sticks the file. I have been trying to find that out forever. Cool beans.
I had been using an old version of GBX0B on an sd card to make a decent ts-calibration file. Kind of a pain as you have to load up WM, then GBX0B to make the file at boot time (and it wasn't as accurate as the HTC one), copy it , and then reload the GBX and paste it.
BTW on the nand version (GBX0* + 3.3.x kernel) it needs to be placed in /data/
Why couldn't you have posted this sooner When I was using GBX0C I couldn't find the file anywhere
Ha! Sorry, I just found it today. Your problem was prbably that you looked virtually everywhere! It does seem an odd place for the file to be.
Would it work to bind-mount that file to /data/ts-calibration in the boot script, so that running HTC Calibrate will automatically write it?
That I do not know. I have never looked at the boot script or bind mounted anything. But automating this does sound like a great idea!
It would be amazing if a dev could do a reverse compile on this app, and put in an option to select the save location. One can dream.
I was taking a look at the data and time stamps on calibration_points, and it seems that there is a script somewhere that takes ts-calibration and overwrites calibration_points at boot time. If that is correct disabling that overwrite would mean the app could work fine as-is.
Unfortunately just renaming the ts-calibration is not enough. During the boot process it creates a new one with a set of values.
I found this bit of code that might explain why we are seeing this overwriting.
http://gitorious.org/xdandroid/rootfs/merge_requests/4
Part 1 locates the touch screen manager directory
Part 2 looks for ts-calibration in /data/ and if it finds it overwrites calibration_points
otherwise it creates a new ts-calibration using a default set of values and then overwrites calibration_points
So what we want to do is have it overwrite /data/ts-calibration with $touchscreendir/calibration_points as long as calibration has been completed previously within android.
Now I haven't really written code/scripts in a decade and am not yet too familiar with linux but something like:
(tiad8's commit, edited poorly by me)
## Ts Calibration
for i in /sys/class/input/input* ; do
if [ "`cat $i/name`" = "tssc-manager" ] ; then
touchscreendir=$i
echo "Touchscreen device directory is $i"
fi
done
if [ -f /data/ts-calibration ] ; then
echo "Using Saved Touchscreen Calibration"
echo 128,128,1903,128,128,1907,1903,1907,1024,1024 > $touchscreendir/calibration_screen
cat /data/ts-calibration > $touchscreendir/calibration_points
else
if [ -f "$touchscreendir/calibration_points"="0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0" ] ; then
echo "Using Default Calibration Values"
echo 821,860,197,868,500,517,829,172,191,171 > /data/ts-calibration
cat /data/ts-calibration > $touchscreendir/calibration_points
else
echo "Using Last Calibration Values"
echo 128,128,1903,128,128,1907,1903,1907,1024,1024 > $touchscreendir/calibration_screen
cat $touchscreendir/calibration_points > /data/ts-calibration
fifi
I am sure that my commands and syntax above are wrong, it's the concept that I am trying to convey.
I want to look to see if there is a ts-calibration and if not then look to see if there is valid calibration data in calibration_screen and if there is then write that value to ts-calibration. Thus to update calibration all you need to do is run HTC Calibration, and delete ts-calibration.
I guess you could also compare calibration_screen to ts-calibration and if there are differences (and calibration_screen is valid) have ts-calibration overwritten, removing the need to delete it!
I am assuming that before calibration or having ts-calibration written to it that calibration_screen has the value 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 but it could also be 0 or empty i don't know really and am probably wrong!
Also for GBX0C /data/ would have to be /sdcard/
One major problem with that plan:
/sys/ isn't a real filesystem.
It's a virtual file system, like /proc/, created programmatically by kernel drivers. It's not stored anywhere.
That boot script is writing the node because that's the only way to get the data into the kernel. If you don't do that, the calibration gets purged (or more accurately, not initialized) every boot.
That's why I proposed a bind-mount: make an access to one place in the filesystem affect another place. Though I realize another problem with that... The driver doesn't read from the filesystem! You have to actually write to the node to get the data into the driver. So that busts that plan.
It might be theoretically possible to modify the kernel driver to signal a userspace process to copy that data out, but... I don't know what would go into that, or even if it's ideal.
I have been using the latest kernel, 3.4 with a new build of GBX0C and decided to re-calibrate my screen:
Strange.... When I went looking for calibration_points in /sys/devices/virtual/input/input3/ it wasn't there, it had moved to /sys/devices/virtual/input/input2/
Before I edit the first post can anyone who is using the 3.4 linux kernel confirm this, please?
I can confirm that with the 3.3 kernel, mine is in input2, not input3
where to copy? does not have memory card
karelkopp said:
where to copy? does not have memory card
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What does not have a memory card? The RHOD certainly has a slot for one...
Edit - I just realized why your question is so poorly worded. You're running NAND, and this thread assumes you're on a SD build.
I responded to you here.
I recently started working on a Android based Car solution and decided to buy the MK802 units. My car used to have a Windows based PC, so I already have VGA touchscreens installed. I didnt want to replace the screens, so I bought a HDMI to VGA converter and the MK802.
I plugged the touchscreen into the MK802, assuming it wouldnt do anything. But sure enough, it works. Problem is the calibration is off and up and down are reversed. So say I tap the bottom of the screen, the mouse pointer appears on the top of the screen and vis versa. My understanding (Im very new to this) is that you have to be rooted, which is the way these devices come.
So my question is, will this calibration tool work? I know most Androids use a multi-touch screen. Mine are 4-wire touch panels. Also, what do I have to look for and edit to get Up to Up and Down to Down?
Thanks in advance!
hijackzx1 said:
I recently started working on a Android based Car solution and decided to buy the MK802 units. My car used to have a Windows based PC, so I already have VGA touchscreens installed. I didnt want to replace the screens, so I bought a HDMI to VGA converter and the MK802.
I plugged the touchscreen into the MK802, assuming it wouldnt do anything. But sure enough, it works. Problem is the calibration is off and up and down are reversed. So say I tap the bottom of the screen, the mouse pointer appears on the top of the screen and vis versa. My understanding (Im very new to this) is that you have to be rooted, which is the way these devices come.
So my question is, will this calibration tool work? I know most Androids use a multi-touch screen. Mine are 4-wire touch panels. Also, what do I have to look for and edit to get Up to Up and Down to Down?
Thanks in advance!
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This tool was made for HTC phones. You will need to find the group for your device to get support for it.
Calibration problem
Hello,
I am not able to calibrate screen on htc touch pro2 sprint modem (T7380) PocketPC
there is a software problem due to which i had to reset factory restore button inside handset ,and restarted device
but it stuck on calibrate option ,continuous prompt to press all 4 side and centre ,even though i had done multiple time
but no further progress ,would like to know how to come out from this problem
now the handset is completely not starting ...i am on calibrate mode screen.
please suggest any solution .
syedwasi said:
Hello,
I am not able to calibrate screen on htc touch pro2 sprint modem (T7380) PocketPC
there is a software problem due to which i had to reset factory restore button inside handset ,and restarted device
but it stuck on calibrate option ,continuous prompt to press all 4 side and centre ,even though i had done multiple time
but no further progress ,would like to know how to come out from this problem
now the handset is completely not starting ...i am on calibrate mode screen.
please suggest any solution .
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It sounds like you are having this issue with a Windows Mobile ROM and this thread is dedicated to Android on the Touch Pro2. However...
OFF TOPIC:
I had a similar problem with my old Acer M900 and the solution was to put an empty text file in the root (no folders) of your SD card and rename it welcome.not and this will bypass the screen calibration on your first boot. I was then able to successfully run the calibration afterwards from the settings menu. Here, to make it easy I attached the file here:View attachment welcome.zip. Simply unzip the file and place the file welcome.not on your storage card.
Caldair said:
I take no credit for any of this, I have just put together things I have found on various threads.
As you all know the touch screen calibration that runs at boot does not work with any of the newer kernels as you cannot see some of the cross hairs to tap. I have personally NEVER been able to produce my own accurate ts-calibration file and have been using an ancient one that I downloaded back in the early days of FRX (thank you arrrghhh). Hopefully you have a somewhat functional ts-calibration file as you need to carry out this procedure from within Android. Here we go... (it's easy)
1. Download HtcCalibrate_WVGA.apk, thanks to lukas.pce, attached to first post here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1457343 to your device.
2. Install HtcCalibrate_WVGA.apk
3. Run HTC Calibrate and follow the instructions, tapping all the points (I used a toothpick for added accuracy)
4. When complete the app will report 'Calibration complete', tap 'Done'. Your screen should now be accurately calibrated for this session. Test to make sure it is working correctly before proceding to next step.
5. Now to get the calibration data to stick after reboot: Open your file explorer (MUST HAVE ROOT ACCESS; I use ES File Explorer with Menu>Settings>'Up to Root' checked) and navigate to /sys/devices/virtual/input/input3/ there you should see a file named calibration_points.
...
..
**Nand users see this (thanks wizardnight!):
Done. Your phone should now boot with the calibration data you created.
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I have had a little bit of an alingment problem with my screen on my TP2. The NAND GBX works great so far. The only small but nevertheless important issue is finding a way to calibrate the screen and all Google searches lead back to the same forum post here , which has many files in the zip but NO apk inside.
Anyway, if anybody has any information of where to find an apk that will work, or maybe information on how to use the included files in the above mentioned link would be much appreciated.
My sincere thanks to all the developers that make all this modding possible, thank you all.
isruco said:
I have had a little bit of an alingment problem with my screen on my TP2. The NAND GBX works great so far. The only small but nevertheless important issue is finding a way to calibrate the screen and all Google searches lead back to the same forum post here , which has many files in the zip but NO apk inside.
Anyway, if anybody has any information of where to find an apk that will work, or maybe information on how to use the included files in the above mentioned link would be much appreciated.
My sincere thanks to all the developers that make all this modding possible, thank you all.
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I just redownloaded the WVGA calibration from the link you refered to here:
[URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1457343"]http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1457343
And the file seems to be intact and unchanged.
Those attached files on said thread ARE apk's already, they don't need to be extracted, just installed on your TP2.:good: Hope that helps!
I've got the Telstra RHOD110 and I've tried to install every Android build since about the first stable Froyo release. Every single one of them hangs during the Linux boot sequence.
It seems to be memory related, but past that I've got no clue - I'm an IT professional, but I'm in operations, not development so I'm a little out of my depth with this stuff.
I have NOT done HardSPL yet, but I was under the impression this wasn't necessary for the SD card method (which I wanted to test out before potentially bricking a ~$1000 phone). In theory it's just the standard Telstra WinMo 6.5 ROM...
It's getting a bit frustrating after years of trying this and seeing everyone else talking about how easy it is. I'm using F22's rootfs and TotalCommander isn't showing up any *.csv files in the \windows directory, so I can't even try the GBX0C (2.3.7) test build. Anyone know why my phone seems to be different?
Hi Nukkels lets focus on getting GBX0C running since
Nukkels said:
I have NOT done HardSPL yet,
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First things first: Format the MicroSD you plan to use using the HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool. Just use google to find it. I use version 2.1.8. Perform a FULL format, FAT32.
Now download the package from here: http://files.xdandroid.com/GBX0C_Full_Bundle_2012.04.24.zip and extract all of the files to the root of your SD card
Nukkels said:
I've got the Telstra RHOD110
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This device is identical to the RHOD100_UK so pull the startup.txt out of the STARTUPS\RHOD\RHOD100\ and place it on the root of your storage card.
Nukkels said:
I'm using F22's rootfs
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I think I understand why you are trying to use that rootfs since it has some stuff tailor made for Rhod110/Telstra but I don't think it is necessary. Just leave the existing rootfs.img from the GBX0C package, it should work for you.
Nukkels said:
TotalCommander isn't showing up any *.csv files in the \windows directory
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I haven't used TotalCommander for a while, but it seems to me that there is an option like "Hide Files in ROM" or "Show Hidden Files" or something like that which is probably preventing you from seeing the .csv's in /Windows/. So find that option and find those files and copy them to the root of your storage card.
If you can't find them I think that GBX0C should still boot as I have booted without any .csv's, there was just no sound in the build. But at least you can see that it is working. In case you absolutely cannot find them, here are my .csv's from rhod100uk: View attachment RHOD100_CSV.zip, unzip to your storage card, which hopefully will get you going.
Okay, now all you need is a touch screen calibration file. If you do not have one here is mine:View attachment ts-calibration.zip
Unzip it to the storage card.
Now you have everything in place on the card, please at this point do not try to edit the startup.txt or anything in /conf/. Lets just get this baby working.
Before you run anything I would set WM to airplane mode, set your backlight control to any level but auto (ie low), and make sure that you are not overclocking your processor in WM.
Now run HaRET.exe from the root of the storage card and cross your fingers mate!
Be patient, first boot can take ~10 minutes sometimes.
EDIT: Also there is a fairly good chance that your thread will get moved to the Android section... if it does and you aren't able to post in it anymore you can PM me.
I just wrote up a huge post and lost it all :crying:
Basically I followed your sintructions step by step and it worked!
I'd never done a FULL format before - that takes hours! I'm guessing this might have been the main issue.
I'll play around over the next few days with F22s rootfs and rhod110 startup parameter, Airplane mode turned on, etc to see if any of that had an impact. I never thought to set backlight to manual or use Airplane mode.
Hopefully I can help find the crucial step I missed, so it can be included in the installation instructions (or at the very least someone might stumble on this thread).
Anyway thanks a tonne for your help, it got me up and running!:good:
Thread moved to the appropriate section.
I genuinely hope you didn't pay ~$1000 for this phone... wow.
Caldair said:
Hi Nukkels lets focus on getting GBX0C running since
First things first: Format the MicroSD you plan to use using the HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool. Just use google to find it. I use version 2.1.8. Perform a FULL format, FAT32.
Now download the package from here: http://files.xdandroid.com/GBX0C_Full_Bundle_2012.04.24.zip and extract all of the files to the root of your SD card
This device is identical to the RHOD100_UK so pull the startup.txt out of the STARTUPS\RHOD\RHOD100\ and place it on the root of your storage card.
I think I understand why you are trying to use that rootfs since it has some stuff tailor made for Rhod110/Telstra but I don't think it is necessary. Just leave the existing rootfs.img from the GBX0C package, it should work for you.
I haven't used TotalCommander for a while, but it seems to me that there is an option like "Hide Files in ROM" or "Show Hidden Files" or something like that which is probably preventing you from seeing the .csv's in /Windows/. So find that option and find those files and copy them to the root of your storage card.
If you can't find them I think that GBX0C should still boot as I have booted without any .csv's, there was just no sound in the build. But at least you can see that it is working. In case you absolutely cannot find them, here are my .csv's from rhod100uk: View attachment 1184798, unzip to your storage card, which hopefully will get you going.
Okay, now all you need is a touch screen calibration file. If you do not have one here is mine:View attachment 1184808
Unzip it to the storage card.
Now you have everything in place on the card, please at this point do not try to edit the startup.txt or anything in /conf/. Lets just get this baby working.
Before you run anything I would set WM to airplane mode, set your backlight control to any level but auto (ie low), and make sure that you are not overclocking your processor in WM.
Now run HaRET.exe from the root of the storage card and cross your fingers mate!
Be patient, first boot can take ~10 minutes sometimes.
EDIT: Also there is a fairly good chance that your thread will get moved to the Android section... if it does and you aren't able to post in it anymore you can PM me.
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I tired this on my TILT 2 it wouldnt work...
tru209 said:
I tired this on my TILT 2 it wouldnt work...
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So... what's broken with it? Where does it stop?
Edit - basically, you've gotta give us more to go on. We can't help you with "wouldn't work" - it's simply not enough info. Provide as much as you can - what did you try, what happens when it boots, did anything semi-work, etc etc. Details!
tru209 said:
I tired this on my TILT 2 it wouldnt work...
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Did you bite your tounge just right while dancing backwards to the wizard of OZ soundtrack? That always does it for me when it 'wouldnt work'.
My experience was that the full format using the HP tool is a crucial step. I did a full format using other tools but I had no joy until I did it with the HP tool.
The multi user and guest account feature is not available on either of the two recent releases of Lollipop for the Z3v. I did some research and it appears this is the case, not only on other Verizon handsets like the Droid Turbo and the Galaxy S5 / S6, but a few other non-VZW devices as well. I'm not sure why it was removed but apparently it's just hidden. It can be enabled and I followed the instructions for doing this for the various other devices and can report that it works for our Z3v (see attached screenshots).
I've kind of cleaned up the instructions and put them below. Usual disclaimer - I'm not responsible for anything that may happen to you or your cat if you choose to do the following. You DO need root access to edit and write to the system file.
** To be safe, please make a backup of your phone and/or a copy of the build.prop file that you are going to edit.
Get ES File Explorer. Run it and enable Root Explorer setting. (You may be able to use any file explorer and editor with root access but this is used most in the instructions and works.)
With ES File Explorer, go to device/system/ and find the file: build.prop
Choose to edit it with ES Note Editor.
Scroll to the end of the file and type in the following:
fw.max_users=5
fw.show_multiuserui=1
Save the file.
I'm not sure if the next step is required but it was in half the instructions I saw, and I did it myself: Click and hold the file, go to Properties, and then change the permissions to Read, Write & Execute. [all three]
Reboot your phone.
When you're up and running, access multi user mode by pulling down your notification shade and then clicking on your user icon at the top right corner.
Notes so far:
A guest user does not have access to the original user's files on the internal drive - the guest user has their own file directory. The guest CAN access the External SD Card, though.
Therefore, an app such as Movie Creator can and will create a "highlight" movie that is composed from photos that are saved on the external SD Card. Just keep this in mind as far as privacy.
There is a per user option that lets you decide whether or not the additional users can use the phone and access the text messages. If you disable this ability, while they cannot open the phone app to make a call, the CAN receive an incoming call.
You can find out more about the nuances of additional users with your Google Fu.
Enjoy!
Wow! Great work!
AddictedToGlass said:
Wow! Great work!
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Thanks! I really wanted this feature and it seemed like not many people care too much about it. It's my way of circumventing the awful permissions control we currently have in Android. That is, there are apps I want to use but refuse to install because of their overreaching permission requirements (contacts, etc) and so I can now create a second user with a new "dummy" Gmail account that has no sensitive information and install these apps without worrying.
By the way, something neat I figured out about this. Additional user accounts are not allowed to side load apps (the toggle to install from unknown sources is grayed out). I figured out that if the main user / owner restores an app through Titanium Backup, any other currently existing user will have it installed for some reason. I don't know why this happens but it's a neat glitch that gets you around that restriction.
Well I think most people simply don't let others touch their phones and so don't have a use for multiple user accounts. I find that my phone, as big as the screen is, is becoming more and more of a computer / tablet replacement. I like the idea of a multiuser functionality, but mostly to hide my own stuff. I'll silk never let anyone else touch my phone!
The use for multi-user that I've seen that makes the most sense is people with children. They will create a user profile for the child so they can't get into any of the parent's stuff or settings. That or the guest profile which will let them do whatever the heck they want without screwing up the phone.
Aside from that I have read that devs find the feature very useful for testing. Heck, that's not a bad idea to install and test apps, in general.
uh oh.
Well something didnt work. Maybe a certain build I have to be on or what. I followed the instructions to a t. Now stuck on endless boot loop. Only bad part is I'm on as hotel room working out of town without a laptop Or pc to fix it. I used a one click root just today and didn't install a proper recovery. Any thoughts
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Well something didnt work. Maybe a certain build I have to be on or what. I followed the instructions to a t. Now stuck on endless boot loop. Only bad part is I'm on as hotel room working out of town without a laptop Or pc to fix it. I used a one click root just today and didn't install a proper recovery. Any thoughts
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I had a problem with this also twice cause I'm always doing stupid things to my phone my guess is you didn't change the system to r/w but modified it anyway or you used a editor that would let you input the correct values I used s manager I think. As far as getting your phone working you could try safe mode or maybe a factory reset if you can hold power and the volume button down and enter recovery.
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I had a problem with this also twice cause I'm always doing stupid things to my phone my guess is you didn't change the system to r/w but modified it anyway or you used a editor that would let you input the correct values I used s manager I think. As far as getting your phone working you could try safe mode or maybe a factory reset if you can hold power and the volume button down and enter recovery.
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I believe the mistake was made when i changed the permissions per instructions. I finially got to my house and im using adb to freeze the loop then going to push a script over to fix the permissions. I will update when i get it done and I will post my fix. Also I used ES file explorer, which i have already used it for years now. Never had anything like this happen before. it just baffles me. I have never got any instructions off of XDA that led to any malfuntion of my phone. But oh well, sh!+ happens.
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I believe the mistake was made when i changed the permissions per instructions. I finially got to my house and im using adb to freeze the loop then going to push a script over to fix the permissions. I will update when i get it done and I will post my fix. Also I used ES file explorer, which i have already used it for years now. Never had anything like this happen before. it just baffles me. I have never got any instructions off of XDA that led to any malfuntion of my phone. But oh well, sh!+ happens.
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Hey! I'm so sorry! I got a couple of new phones (Droid Maxx 2 and LG G4) and have been using those phones so I haven't been checking these forums like I was when I just had the Z3v. Really sorry to hear that you ran into that kind of trouble . Thing is, the instructions above are culled from 4 or 5 different sets of instructions for various devices that I found across the web. I performed them step by step myself while cross referencing them to each other and combined them all to the instruction set above as I did it. Did you ever fix it with the method you mentioned? I'm curious if it was the permissions thing (odd, because it worked for me).
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Hey! I'm so sorry! I got a couple of new phones (Droid Maxx 2 and LG G4) and have been using those phones so I haven't been checking these forums like I was when I just had the Z3v. Really sorry to hear that you ran into that kind of trouble . Thing is, the instructions above are culled from 4 or 5 different sets of instructions for various devices that I found across the web. I performed them step by step myself while cross referencing them to each other and combined them all to the instruction set above as I did it. Did you ever fix it with the method you mentioned? I'm curious if it was the permissions thing (odd, because it worked for me).
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it is guys if done right your system needs to be switched to r/w then go back to r/o after modifying the build prop if you modify in r/o you will get bootloop to a hard brick it depends.
Jurassic Pork Fried Rice said:
Hey! I'm so sorry! I got a couple of new phones (Droid Maxx 2 and LG G4) and have been using those phones so I haven't been checking these forums like I was when I just had the Z3v. Really sorry to hear that you ran into that kind of trouble . Thing is, the instructions above are culled from 4 or 5 different sets of instructions for various devices that I found across the web. I performed them step by step myself while cross referencing them to each other and combined them all to the instruction set above as I did it. Did you ever fix it with the method you mentioned? I'm curious if it was the permissions thing (odd, because it worked for me).
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Well I kinda fixed it. I went and bought a HTC M9. Lol but not yet, I'm still working on it. I have found scripts to run, even a specific build.prop fix to push, but I have windows 10 and couldn't get adb to find the device. Plus I'm a little rusty. So I broke out my old windows 7 laptop I have used just for rooting an modding phones and tablets. I did get adb and fastboot to find it once. Then some reason lost it. I didn't have it ready to go. But I'm almost 100 percent sure I can get it. Just need to play around with it a little bit more. Having trouble with drivers etc. I will let you know when I have it.
And didn't really hurt my feelings getting the phone I truly want. I never had problems with HTC since I was flashing roms on my old window phones. I just want my pictures I cannot replace.
"Run it and enable Root Explorer setting. (You may be able to use any file explorer and editor with root access but this is used most in the instructions and works.)"
Alas- I am not rooted, and therefore can not enable "Root Explorer" option. Unless someone has some other suggestions- I think I can't do this unless I'm rooted.
Well this is probably what I did to brick my first z3v.
I don't suggest anyone do this at all. There does seem to be an issue with the permission setting on the build.prop file. If it's not reset correctly after editing, you'll get stuck in a loop or worse. I'm stuck in bootloop, but can get into recovery. I made a backup hoping to learn how to edit the build.prop (delete it and rename the copied original to set it back as it was). But I can't even run the original zip that GigaSPX made up for us. (I don't have a backup like I hought I did.)
Anytime I try to install the flashable prerooted zip it tells me it's done after 2 seconds and says;
set_perm: some changes failed
I'm typing this on my z2 tablet, which has the multi user feature enabled. I'm going to see if RootExplorer will give me some clues as to why this doesn't work.
In the mean time I'm hoping someone can help me out?
If love to get this feature to work, but it has to be safe.
Just checked the build.prop on my tablet and got no clue.
AddictedToGlass said:
Well this is probably what I did to brick my first z3v.
I don't suggest anyone do this at all. There does seem to be an issue with the permission setting on the build.prop file. If it's not reset correctly after editing, you'll get stuck in a loop or worse. I'm stuck in bootloop, but can get into recovery. I made a backup hoping to learn how to edit the build.prop (delete it and rename the copied original to set it back as it was). But I can't even run the original zip that GigaSPX made up for us. (I don't have a backup like I hought I did.)
Anytime I try to install the flashable prerooted zip it tells me it's done after 2 seconds and says;
set_perm: some changes failed
I'm typing this on my z2 tablet, which has the multi user feature enabled. I'm going to see if RootExplorer will give me some clues as to why this doesn't work.
In the mean time I'm hoping someone can help me out?
If love to get this feature to work, but it has to be safe.
Just checked the build.prop on my tablet and got no clue.
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a backup usually means going into your twrp and hit the back up button and make a copy of your system including data and all that. This is mandatory before messing with the build prop. If you want Pm me your build prop and I will send it back to you. With multi user enabled.
Yup, I know what a back-up is and how to do it, and I know it's a must before messing with the build.prop. I just really thought I had done it recently...
-and I had! But I forgot that a few days ago I bought myself a Christmas present; a 200 Gb micro SD, and copied most of the contents to the new card from my old one. I chose not to copy the backup because I had planned to make some changes and create a more recent backup. Never happened though because I got side tracked loading music and such. Lol!
So I'm all back together, but would still like to play with this feature. So I'm going to give it another shot.
A guest user does not have access to the original user's files on the internal drive - the guest user has their own file directory. The guest CAN access the External SD Card, though.
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Perhaps the wrong thread but: enabled multi user on a Cube T8 only to find that guest and other user can access INTERNAL sd but not external sd. I'd rather have it the other way round. So the kids (other users) can use the whole of 32 GB sd card rather than me having to share the small internal sd with them.
Any ideas how to fix this? Phablet is not rooted btw.
got bootloop..... but i'm safe as i've backup.... through recovery..
I've inserted two lines and fell in bootloop
Thanks bro.. working....!!!! but second step is not needed...