Having trouble wording the right query on this, so if it's been answered I apologize...it's also not really Eris specific, but you all seem to know your stuff so I'm posting here.
Anyone know if using GPS counts as "billable" data usage?
I ask because I'm driving to Canada next week and would like to make use of Google's Nav (for at least a bit of the trip). I realize Maps likely needs internet connectivity to function correctly, so may plan consists of:
Being connected to the web (either Mobile Data or WiFi) here in Jersey
Searching for the hotel's address and allowing Maps to "download" the route
Leave GPS on, but turn off Mobile Data
Do this seem terribly stupid? Assuming it would work, would the "connection" to the GPS show up on my VZW bill?
maps does need the internet to work properly. the gps data does not count as data. there are several options including paid apps such as copilot that have maps stored on your phone. there is also a modified version of google maps that will download map data to the cache which should allow you to do what you were suggesting (set route and then follow). i have not used either personally. however, a thread for the modified google apps is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=630887&page=245 with the newest version as the last post on this page. you can read the thread to see what all it can and cant do. it started out as modified by brut then was picked up by a different developer, but using the same thread.
All I can tell you is that Nav Does work when driving through areas of No Signal. You have the blue line through a blank (white) background. I don't know if you lose the verbal cues or not. No signal areas I encounter are not in areas I need to turn, but just following a highway.
From my experience with Nav I think your plan is at least a valid experiment. If it does not work, on the way back just Get Directions and follow the written instructions.
Your GPS is on the phone. There is no charge to use it. My only caveat is if it requests Assistance data - that may cause data charges. It should only need assistance data to help acquire lock. Once you are navigating it should be fine without a data connection.
Please post how it goes.
ok since you are the second person i have recommended the app i posted the thread link to, i figured i should probably install it. you have to uninstall you current map app. the new app has two things to do. in the settings menu of the app, there is a more button. in the more button there is a sign in to account option, this will sync it with your google account (starred places and such). the other part directly applicable to you is under the more button, there is a cache settings option, if you click that, then check the prefetch on mobile box, it should prefetch all of the maps when you program your route. one piece of advice is to toggle off your network and make sure the "international roaming" option in your phone settings is turned off once you leave the country. when i went to jamaica i was greeted by a text when the plane landed. a friend wishing me happy travels cost me 50 cents...lol. that will teach me to leave international roaming turned on. the nice thing was that where we were staying had wifi so i still got my email and voicemail/texts through google voice.
Thanks to you both.
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maps does need the internet to work properly. the gps data does not count as data. there are several options including paid apps such as copilot that have maps stored on your phone. there is also a modified version of google maps that will download map data to the cache which should allow you to do what you were suggesting (set route and then follow). i have not used either personally. however, a thread for the modified google apps is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=630887&page=245 with the newest version as the last post on this page. you can read the thread to see what all it can and cant do. it started out as modified by brut then was picked up by a different developer, but using the same thread.
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Interesting thread, I'll have to read through that when I get the time (lunch time at work tomorrow is looking good heh). Thanks for the link.
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All I can tell you is that Nav Does work when driving through areas of No Signal. You have the blue line through a blank (white) background. I don't know if you lose the verbal cues or not. No signal areas I encounter are not in areas I need to turn, but just following a highway.
From my experience with Nav I think your plan is at least a valid experiment. If it does not work, on the way back just Get Directions and follow the written instructions.
Your GPS is on the phone. There is no charge to use it. My only caveat is if it requests Assistance data - that may cause data charges. It should only need assistance data to help acquire lock. Once you are navigating it should be fine without a data connection.
Please post how it goes.
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My main concern is getting charged for usage outside of the country, but it sounds like that won't happen. I'm probably going to "steal" my wife's Garmin for the trip, but will also try this experiment with the Eris just out of curiosity. Will post results when I return.
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ok since you are the second person i have recommended the app i posted the thread link to, i figures i should probably install it. you have to uninstall you current app. the new app has two things to do. in the settings menu of the app, there is a more button. in the more button there is a sign in to account option, this will sync it with your google account (starred places and such). the other part directly applicable to you is under the more button, there is a cache settings option, if you click that, then check the prefetch on mobile box, it should prefetch all of the maps when you program your route. one piece of advice is to toggle off your network and make sure the "international roaming" option in settings is turned off once you leave the country. when i went to jamaica i was greeted by a text when the plane landed. a friend wishing me happy travels cost me 50 cents...lol. that will teach me to leave international roaming turned on.
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You went above and beyond on that one for me brother, much appreciated! Sounds like you've found me a solution, and a new piece of software to play with. The wife will be watching more of that horrible Jersey Shore in my absence (if I'm so much in the room my blood pressure goes up about 50 points), so double thanks to you!
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You went above and beyond on that one for me brother, much appreciated! Sounds like you've found me a solution, and a new piece of software to play with. The wife will be watching more of that horrible Jersey Shore in my absence (if I'm so much in the room my blood pressure goes up about 50 points), so double thanks to you!
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Just tried out the latest version 5.2.1 and it didn't seem to voice search well. I will probably try out v5.0. i know that in brut it worked. brut stopped updating his version at v4.6 i believe.
edit: the brut options (cache maps etc) do not work in gingerbread.
program on the market called Locus allows downloading maps of a selected area also if the brut/google maps doesn't work and you are still looking for a free option.
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So currently I'm using google maps for my navigation, however I hate its long time searching. It takes almost 10 min for it to find me but once I'm found it stays on while it runs. However I would like to know if there is something better than this?
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I think google is one of the best, they are on top of there game, imo. Hopefully you find something else that suites your phone.
Google...Sprint Nav...
Google maps is great... I have to say (my opinion though) that the new version of Sprint GPS is pretty good too. (but u have to have sprint).
I say both are very average compare to other software: Iguidance, Garmin XT, Tomtom, IGO.....paid but much better, 10 minutes isn't normal Eclipse, you may wanna eclipse Google and try something new...plenty or resources out there
If you just want to know where you are and want to find businesses close to where you are at then google is nice.
If you want to use your GPS for driving directions get a true turn-by-turn app like igo, tomtom, Garmin, CoPilot, etc.. Not to mention you don't need a data play for these apps. Maps are loaded on the phone.
I've got garmin XT and I love it.
I agree with above.. sure the google one is cool for what it does.. so is the new one in Bing for that matter... but really, nothing beats TomTom... it will work even if you have no internet connection...... (assuming you have a map of your entire country on an SD card).... But the voices are cool, the diffrent options for a car icon is cool.... the layout is cool... and the "show off" effect is cool...
"Oh, your phone has AT&T Navigator that only works where you have coverage?, Well, my phone has real TomTom, just like the ones you buy at Best Buy for $200, and it works everywhere"..
lol... sorry, but it is fun... And if you you do have an unlimited data plan, and are willing to pay hte monthly fee, you can access TomTom Plus which offers live traffic (and it can auto-reroute you if it is faster another way), along with gas prices, weather, etc....
That is my 2 cents...
The reason why I hate google maps is because it takes a long long time for it to locate me... takes a good 5-10 mins till it finds me. I want to know what app or what I need to do so that I can use a gps that will pick me fast. What do I do ?
does tomtom locate fast? and is it free?
I have started using Waze with my TP. I love it. Its user based so if there is someone stuck in traffic, they report it and you get updated. Im a huge fan.
tom tom locates very fast but is not free. my google maps takes a few seconds to locate me. i would try changing your radio. also use quick gps it makes google locate faster.
Garmin XT
Run it on my Fuze and it works great! It's not free but I was part of www.lg-incite.com forum before getting my Fuze and they have a thread over there dedicated to Garmin GPS. If you have a data plan, you get live traffic and can search a business in your area using the built in Google Search.
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Hey Eclipse I would reccommend trying quick GPS, it updates satellite info from the internet so beware but attains a much faster lock on once it has run the update, it DOES use the internet so unlimited data is reccommended.
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Hey Eclipse I would reccommend trying quick GPS, it updates satellite info from the internet so beware but attains a much faster lock on once it has run the update, it DOES use the internet so unlimited data is reccommended.
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Yea I usually do update the quick gps. However it still takes awhile.
where can I get the latest sprint nav?
Off topic but here, read
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=362745
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The reason why I hate google maps is because it takes a long long time for it to locate me... takes a good 5-10 mins till it finds me. I want to know what app or what I need to do so that I can use a gps that will pick me fast. What do I do ?
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This is not an application issue. This is a phone GPS issue. You will have this same issue with every GPS application until you resolve the GPS acquisition issue.
I have an issue with the GPS device every few months. Some bad data corrupts the memory location and won't find satellites. To fix it I change some settings and it seems to force overwrite the nonvolatile memory files.
1. Open Quick GPS
2. Tap Menu at the bottom
3. Tap Options
4. Uncheck "Auto download when connected to PC via ActiveSync"
5. Tap OK
6. Close out of Quick GPS and quit the application
Now it may take 30 seconds to acquire satellites for the first time. Each time after you should acquire satellites very quickly.
I'm heading into Canada in two days and would like to use a standalone navigation app instead of racking up heafty data charges. Which ones have people here used and would you recommend it? I used CoPilot several years ago and liked it, but there are many different versions now (live, live standard, live premium) , so if you recommend CoPilot, be sure to mention which version you use.
If you don't want to rack up heavy data charges, just use Google's Navigation and cache map areas for offline navigation.
Open up Maps>Menu>More>Labs>Pre-Cache map area and highlight your desired areas, voila!
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If you don't want to rack up heavy data charges, just use Google's Navigation and cache map areas for offline navigation.
Open up Maps>Menu>More>Labs>Pre-Cache map area and highlight your desired areas, voila!
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When i go into maps, menu, more, I don't have an option for labs. I only have an option for help and terms. Also, if i were able to cache maps, won't data still be required for turn by turn navigation?
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When i go into maps, menu, more, I don't have an option for labs. I only have an option for help and terms. Also, if i were able to cache maps, won't data still be required for turn by turn navigation?
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Do you have the latest Google Maps? Also, i dont believe you need data if your maps are pre-cached. Im about to go out, ill test and let you know.
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Do you have the latest Google Maps? Also, i dont believe you need data if your maps are pre-cached. Im about to go out, ill test and let you know.
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I was going into maps through the navigation app but when i opened maps directly, the cache option was there. It only caches a 10 mile area and I'm going to be all over Ontario. I cached a few areas of interest then went into airplane mode and told maps to navigate from one point to another within the cached area and it couldn't do it. This isn't going to work for me.
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I'm heading into Canada in two days and would like to use a standalone navigation app instead of racking up heafty data charges. Which ones have people here used and would you recommend it? I used CoPilot several years ago and liked it, but there are many different versions now (live, live standard, live premium) , so if you recommend CoPilot, be sure to mention which version you use.
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I love Google's Navigation except its synthesized voice and lack of lane assistance.
I never tried CoPilot, but among those I tried on Photon or iPhone, the one I like most is Navigon. The maps, display clarity, voice, and lane assistance are all great. As the only downside, I found it difficult to find a destination by giving vague or incomplete address or business names. Google excels at this.
I use Navigon check it out
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Google Navigation is the best app for navigation
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I love Google's Navigation except its synthesized voice and lack of lane assistance.
I never tried CoPilot, but among those I tried on Photon or iPhone, the one I like most is Navigon. The maps, display clarity, voice, and lane assistance are all great. As the only downside, I found it difficult to find a destination by giving vague or incomplete address or business names. Google excels at this.
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CoPilot is way better than google maps but it doesn't have street view
Thanks everyone. I've been in Canada for four days now, using CoPilot every day. It hasn't been flawless, but it has been very good and well worth the $10 investment. In the US, I'll keep using Google, but am glad to have CoPilot for international use.
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Google Navigation is the best app for navigation
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Please note the thread is about "standalone" apps - i.e. not on the network and using only the GPS receiver.
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Thanks everyone. I've been in Canada for four days now, using CoPilot every day. It hasn't been flawless, but it has been very good and well worth the $10 investment. In the US, I'll keep using Google, but am glad to have CoPilot for international use.
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I also use it in Canada, and it's pretty good for major roads.
How did you get Canada for $10 - the only one I could find that included Canada was Live for North America @$20.
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How did you get Canada for $10 - the only one I could find that included Canada was Live for North America @$20.
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I bought the standard US version for $5 and then added Canada maps for another $5.
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I bought the standard US version for $5 and then added Canada maps for another $5.
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Ah - thanks. Really hadn't noticed the lower-priced standard versions.
thanks
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I was going into maps through the navigation app but when i opened maps directly, the cache option was there. It only caches a 10 mile area and I'm going to be all over Ontario. I cached a few areas of interest then went into airplane mode and told maps to navigate from one point to another within the cached area and it couldn't do it. This isn't going to work for me.
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thanks a lot
I have seen people talking about going on wifi and caching google maps so that you can navigate on the road without using a data connection (for those of us with a limited data plan). Can we do that with the version of google maps that came on our AT&T SGS2?
I see Menu - More - Cache settings but then what? I'm on the stock ROM (at least for now). Thanks.
Not sure bout the version, but if you can do it, then press and hold an area on google maps, then click the location box pop up, the click pre cache ;-) you can repeat up to 10 times.
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Not sure bout the version, but if you can do it, then press and hold an area on google maps, then click the location box pop up, the click pre cache ;-) you can repeat up to 10 times.
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After I press and hold, an address pops up and then I click that box and I see a bunch of stuff (map, direcdtions, call, street view, what's near, search near, share, report) but nothing about a cache.
Thanks for trying to help crit71!
Turn on pre-cache under Labs.
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Turn on pre-cache under Labs.
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Finally - I guess I kept missing a step somehow - it works - I thank you guys
Pre-cache gives you Google Map features without data connection but won't give you navigation. Navigation routing is still caculated on the server side. So you have to have the data connection to start the navigation. Once you started navigation, the route information and the map data around the route is automatically cached. So, all you have to do is start navigation while you have internet connection. Once the navigation started and you keep the nav app open, you no longer need data connection (of course you will loss traffic info and satellite images). You don't need pre-cache.
Thanks for comments, foxbat121. We have lots of areas with no cell service near where I live so this is important to me. So if I start navigator and choose a route using cell service or wifi then head out, when I do not have a data connecton, it'll still work?
barbo said:
Thanks for comments, foxbat121. We have lots of areas with no cell service near where I live so this is important to me. So if I start navigator and choose a route using cell service or wifi then head out, when I do not have a data connecton, it'll still work?
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Yes. That feature has been there from day one. I tested back when I have Captivate (by turn on flight mode). The map cache in Google Maps is new and it is very useful when you travel to foreign countries where (1) Google Nav is not available (it is only availble in very limited number of countries unlike Google Maps) (2) You don't have any data connection (too expensive to use it). You have a electronic map in hand to let you find your way around or show it to cab drivers telling them where you want to go. But it won't let you navigate.
I'm looking forward to further 'off-line' development by Google in maps for this type of thing. They're headed in the right direction but more features like:
Switch to off-line mode to see all cached data
Cache directions plus selectable distance from route (.2/.5/1/5 mile bubble around path)
Track and record GPS data for further analysis, even without cell signal (useful for hiking/canoe type trips).
Anything else you guys would like to see?
I had CoPilot on my old phone (WinMo) and liked it very much. It was very easy to change the route from what the program suggested to something different. I am finding Google Navigator is sending me way out of my way and it is difficult to change that. So a better "alternate route" method would be on my list.
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Track and record GPS data for further analysis, even without cell signal (useful for hiking/canoe type trips).
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Try 'My Tracks' app by Google.
Any idea to download google maps cache and manually transfer to another phone (which has no data plan) for offline use?
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Any idea to download google maps cache and manually transfer to another phone (which has no data plan) for offline use?
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I couldnt be sure but you might try copying the Android/data/com.google.android.apps.maps/cache folder (be sure to use the pre-cache map feature)
I would recommend just pre caching a bunch of stuff while on a wifi. I did this when I took my Aria to Tokyo. Worked like a champ
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Hey all,
I use one of my Rezounds as a Wi-Fi only "media device" for just movies, games, music, and internet access when WiFi is present.
So last night i was inputting some driving directions into Google Navigation, and since it doesn't have mobile data capabilities I just took a screen shot of the turn by turn directions screen.
So I get in my car, drive out of my driveway, and all of a sudden this WIFI ONLY no mobile data whatsoever phone start giving me turn-by-turn real time directions; just as if it was activated on Verizon's network!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Although, I cannot replicate it for the life of me now. Now all i hear from the phone is " Lost Data Communication"
My question is...since Garmin GPS's solely relay on satellite connectivity without having to pay a reoccurring fee like smartphone users for mobile internet. Is there anyway that the Rezound can imitate a Garmin??
I almost pissed myself it started working without a mobile network.
hope this made sense lol
Thanks
Can't you use the GPS alone anyway as long as you've navigated where you're going before?
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Can't you use the GPS alone anyway as long as you've navigated where you're going before?
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I never navigated there before that's what's trippin me out
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You should be able to precache the maps. Try looking for the precaching option in Maps, cache where you're going to drive, and see if it works.
I haven't tried this yet.
I know there are some apps in the Playstore that allow you to download maps to your SD card and then use that to navigate without a data connection. I used Navdroyd in Ireland, worked great.
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You should be able to precache the maps. Try looking for the precaching option in Maps, cache where you're going to drive, and see if it works.
I haven't tried this yet.
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Pretty much nailed it. If you look up directions on WiFi the app will cache the whole trip. It's a great feature.
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does the feature offer uninterrupted service like a regular garmin
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does the feature offer uninterrupted service like a regular garmin
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Yes, as long as it doesn't have to recalculate the route. Sometimes is can recalculate, sometimes it can't. Google added the larger cache a couple revisions back.
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Yes, as long as it doesn't have to recalculate the route. Sometimes is can recalculate, sometimes it can't. Google added the larger cache a couple revisions back.
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correct, if it has to look up new directions, it cant. As long as you don't recalculate it will work. Navigation apps that have whole maps should not rely on data. Therefore you should be able to use the device as a standalone gps without data.
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correct, if it has to look up new directions, it cant. As long as you don't recalculate it will work. Navigation apps that have whole maps should not rely on data. Therefore you should be able to use the device as a standalone gps without data.
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could my radio /h.boot versions be the problemwhy it keeps saying "no data connection"
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they added pre-downloaded navigation into Google Maps quite awhile back. Its very helpful, as I use a wifi-only tablet in much the same fashion. Unfortunately, it only caches the route you planned out, if you decide to try navigating around the map it won't pull new images until you get a connection again.
There is an app called MapDroyd I think, and its supposed to have fully cached offline maps.
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they added pre-downloaded navigation into Google Maps quite awhile back. Its very helpful, as I use a wifi-only tablet in much the same fashion. Unfortunately, it only caches the route you planned out, if you decide to try navigating around the map it won't pull new images until you get a connection again.
There is an app called MapDroyd I think, and its supposed to have fully cached offline maps.
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its not turn by turn
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I know there are some apps in the Playstore that allow you to download maps to your SD card and then use that to navigate without a data connection. I used Navdroyd in Ireland, worked great.
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NavFree in the Store seems to work really well and allows you (in the NavFree USA Edition) to download each states maps individually. This allows/turns your phone into a TRUE GPS, where no data connection required. Although, I have found that using the 'Google Search' option a better way to find certain addresses. But, once that address is found, you don't need any further data connection AND you can go off-track and not lose yourself as there are no map updates/refreshes necessary.
This app is not the worlds best, but for a free GPS app with downloadable maps, it's about as good as your typical GPS out there. Although, I will say that it's the 'best' NON-Data GPS app I've found to date.
-Cybie
the it leaves me with this question....what internally do the Garmins that we.don't
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the it leaves me with this question....what internally do the Garmins that we.don't
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Nothing really. They just have a internal storage with all of the map data pre-loaded on it, where Google Maps only caches small bits of recently used data locally and relies on an internet connection for the actual map data and graphics.
In theory, Google Maps would run just fine off the device if you were able to download all the map data for an entire state or country onto your device... But Google is a "cloud" company and believes in connecting everything via the internet, so its unlikely they will have a fully offline version even if it is technically possible to do...
Google's approach does have the benefit of always having access to current maps, whereas Garmin/TomTom/etc systems need to be updated periodically or the map information may be out of date and no longer accurate.
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There are plenty of standalone GPS apps with turn by turn directions. I actually decided to make my Incredible into a dedicated GPS just that way; since it has no data plan.
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There are plenty of standalone GPS apps with turn by turn directions. I actually decided to make my Incredible into a dedicated GPS just that way; since it has no data plan.
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which stand alone Alps I've tried a lot of the popular ones and. I'm in need of some things that I need a something that ass is close to a garmin as possible. I definitely need the real time turn by turn directions. and something that has a reliable connection that it won't lose signal on me when I'm in the middle of nowhere
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Sell this extra Rezound you have, use the money to buy a real GPS and use the rest for gas money. All problems solved.
bump anybody else have any advice on stand aloneapps
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coming from the iphone 4s, the iphone can use gps w/o being activated so im sure there is a way to use gps on the rezound, especially since the rezound is better
Hi,
recently I tried out Sygic which works really nice except for one thing:
when Sygic is running in background after a while (seems randomly) the GPS message disappears (upper message in attached pic), the Sygic message remains (lower message in attached pic).
When I click the Sygic message, the app behaves as if I restarted it (says "initializing" on top right). Luckily, it remembers the old route.
Yet sometimes I don't drive myself and would like to do other stuff and have Sygic tracking in the background.
It works fine with Google maps.Yet not with Sygic. Especially when I launch any other app (even the browser, a video or something), Sygic stops tracking immediately (not always but often) or some time later.
GPS is set to never turn off in Sygic and all settings are set to "optimal".
Could that be the Android OS turning something off for Sygic as it might believe it's no longer used or something?
Sygic is more sophisticated than Google maps and uses more ram. If you start opening other apps after Sygic then they will get higher priority in ram. Sygic doesn't really stop so much as get pushed out of memory until it gets switched to again. Not much you can do about it really.
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Ah that explains the issue, already feared something like that.
The only annoying part is that it no longer tells me where to go when that happens.
Does anyone know whether this happens with other apps such as Navigon as well?
Since the newest update (at least I didn't notice it before) Sygic has an option "Run navigation in back..." under Battery management.
Haven't tested it yet but that supposedly sets the oom_adj values low enough for the app not to get killed.
Ah thanks, that is new indeed.
Yet I tried this and eventually the same thing happens sooner or later. :/
Open Sygic.... go to SETTINGS than go to BATTERY MANAGEMENT (i don't know witch is the correct option in english as my SYGIC is in ITALIAN)... the first setting that is show to you is the opportunity to deactivate the GPS signal after a definite time.... change it!
Yeah that option is now replaced, you can only check/uncheck it. I checked it so it keeps running in background but still shuts off after a while when using other apps.
You're right. I have the same problem. This is ridiculous. You are running navigation and expect it to give you the directions at the right moment, but you don't know that in the meantime, while you got a phone call and checked your messages it was turned off silently and no longer working.
Without an option to guarantee it's working and can't be stopped in the background, you're as if you have no navigation at all.
If this can not be fixed it's better not to even install Sygic, cause this takes away a major part of what this app is meant to do. So stupid.
I have tried Igo and it was the same. How serious is that?! To have a navigation, which can stop while you're using it and need it, without warning!
Did anybody find a solution to this?
Not really.
Either simply leave Sygic running in foreground / don't leave it running in background for a while or use a different app.
After I purchased it I also noticed some other annoying issues, e.g. voice says "take exit number 24" instead of how we navigate here "take next exit to A2" (our motorway navvigation signs do not show the exit numbers anyway), forcing me to look at the app way more often when there is an exit leading to 2 different motorways.
Due to such issues as well as this annoying "I die if you leave me running in background" I decided to switch to Navigon. Nicely, this app even tells you which motorway to take AND where it leads to, so I don't even need to look at it.
I haven't run a full test yet. Yet I left a video running in full screen and Navigon kept running in background navigating. Once I know more, I report back (if I don't forget). In any case, I wished I didn't have spent the money for Sygic after all. What do free map updates any good when the app isn't suiting oneself.
P.S.: I did inform Sygic support about the background issue and they requested more information as they didn't experience this issue yet. I provided that but didn't get another reply, the thread was then archived.
Landorin said:
Not really.
Either simply leave Sygic running in foreground / don't leave it running in background for a while or use a different app.
After I purchased it I also noticed some other annoying issues, e.g. voice says "take exit number 24" instead of how we navigate here "take next exit to A2" (our motorway navvigation signs do not show the exit numbers anyway), forcing me to look at the app way more often when there is an exit leading to 2 different motorways.
Due to such issues as well as this annoying "I die if you leave me running in background" I decided to switch to Navigon. Nicely, this app even tells you which motorway to take AND where it leads to, so I don't even need to look at it.
I haven't run a full test yet. Yet I left a video running in full screen and Navigon kept running in background navigating. Once I know more, I report back (if I don't forget). In any case, I wished I didn't have spent the money for Sygic after all. What do free map updates any good when the app isn't suiting oneself.
P.S.: I did inform Sygic support about the background issue and they requested more information as they didn't experience this issue yet. I provided that but didn't get another reply, the thread was then archived.
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I agree with you also for the way Sygic works. It's s not that great. Thanks for sharing about Navigon. Please, test it and post here if the situation with "silent background death" is the same. I would appreciate it if you let me know and will be checking to see how you feel about it when you post your comments.
tiho5 said:
I agree with you also for the way Sygic works. It's s not that great. Thanks for sharing about Navigon. Please, test it and post here if the situation with "silent background death" is the same. I would appreciate it if you let me know and will be checking to see how you feel about it when you post your comments.
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I have been using Sygic for quite a long time and noticed that on my Galaxy Captivate, after initialization, if you switch to some other app then return to Sygic (either from the app icon, or from the task bar) it always restart.
However on my Galaxy S3 after switch back to Sygic it just continues wherever it left off. I guess that my Captivate had less memory to run Sygic while I have plenty on the S3.
Also in Sygic, go to Settings / Notifications and Sounds / Advanced and turn "Sound always on" would let Sygic to continue to turn-by-turn announcement even if it is not in the foreground, even when the screen is off.
I have plenty of free memory (using HTC one x) and still it's killed. But this is not a problem of sygic. it's a problem of Android. Or may be indrrd sygic didn't make the right settings for the memory registration of this app (if that's something that they could do). As I see the oom values of this app are pretty high usually when I check.
Also about the voice: I have this option checked. But I never had an occasion when it spoke to me when it was killed. I'll check again. May be I didn't notice it...
Thanks for your comment on that. I'm surely going to test this.
tiho5 said:
I have plenty of free memory (using HTC one x) and still it's killed. But this is not a problem of sygic. it's a problem of Android. Or may be indrrd sygic didn't make the right settings for the memory registration of this app (if that's something that they could do). As I see the oom values of this app are pretty high usually when I check.
Also about the voice: I have this option checked. But I never had an occasion when it spoke to me when it was killed. I'll check again. May be I didn't notice it...
Thanks for your comment on that. I'm surely going to test this.
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You probably you haven't set the option to switch off GPS after a certain amount of time. Go to Settings /Battery management / Switch GPS off after... then move the slider until you see "never".
pentel1954 said:
You probably you haven't set the option to switch off GPS after a certain amount of time. Go to Settings /Battery management / Switch GPS off after... then move the slider until you see "never".
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Thanks for trying to help. This option is set properly to "never" with me.
Hey all,
sorry for the late reply.
Sad news: Navigon dies in background as well. Just like Sygic, it doesn't always happen. But once you start using other apps actively it will eventually kill Sygic and Navigon silently. As someone already pointed out, it's likely an issue due to how Android works.
I had the relevant options ticked to never disable GPS or anything and it made no difference.
So you can use another app but you can't actively use your smartphone, e.g. I can have Poweramp run in foreground and switch tracks without Navigon dying (it also keeps talking to me via voice, even when the screen is turned off). But if you're not the driver and want to do more than just that then you'd need a second device or so.
Cheers,
Landorin
P.S.: at least now I could test both apps and personally, I'll stick with Navigon. Navigation by voice is so well developed that I don't need to look at the app while driving and if I do look at it, track assistant is better developed too (it shows you the motorway signs). With the app "Directory Bind" I was also able to move the whole big app + maps onto the external SD card.
Hopefully, the Sygic devs will listen to the community feedback and catch up in development over time.
Landorin said:
Hey all,
sorry for the late reply.
Sad news: Navigon dies in background as well. Just like Sygic, it doesn't always happen. But once you start using other apps actively it will eventually kill Sygic and Navigon silently. As someone already pointed out, it's likely an issue due to how Android works.
I had the relevant options ticked to never disable GPS or anything and it made no difference.
So you can use another app but you can't actively use your smartphone, e.g. I can have Poweramp run in foreground and switch tracks without Navigon dying (it also keeps talking to me via voice, even when the screen is turned off). But if you're not the driver and want to do more than just that then you'd need a second device or so.
Cheers,
Landorin
P.S.: at least now I could test both apps and personally, I'll stick with Navigon. Navigation by voice is so well developed that I don't need to look at the app while driving and if I do look at it, track assistant is better developed too (it shows you the motorway signs). With the app "Directory Bind" I was also able to move the whole big app + maps onto the external SD card.
Hopefully, the Sygic devs will listen to the community feedback and catch up in development over time.
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Thanks for this elaborate report. It will be useful for many.
And yes, the navigation soft producers must make some conclusions.
If I find a good way to protect an app from being killed, I'll post it here.
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