I have been planning to put a new stereo system into my wife's car for Christmas. I'm looking at some of the all-digital systems out there with A2DP, but I'm wondering whether Android is compatible with one of the versions of the AVRCP control standards? Preferably 1.4, which should be full control and full metadata.
We'd want to play both MP3 files stored on the phone as well as streaming audio from Pandora. We don't use CDs or even DVDs any more. Bluetooth phone call support would be nice, too, if anyone has any US-market head unit recommendations which they can confirm works with the Vibrant.
Just remembered to dig up this thread and reply to it.
I ended up getting her a no-moving-parts Clarion FZ709 head unit. She actually uses it with her iPod more than anything (which works great over USB), but I've tried it out with Pandora on my Vibrant over Bluetooth.
I was disappointed that there was no track information displayed, but skip forward/back works, as does pause/play. The audio was a bit muffled sounding but Pandora at cell data speeds isn't exactly hifi to start with. I forgot to put some MP3s on my phone so I haven't tried those yet (to see whether metadata works, I figure it might just be a Pandora issue).
Ok, I am looking for a DIGITAL car-kit integration. I don't want NO Bluetooth or Analog Line-Out from the headphone jack.
IS there any kit out there that will route audio directly from the USB OR mount the phone as a USB Mass Storage?
Sample of what I mean.... Plug your ATT SGS2 to an USB port that will route all audio in to the car's audio system. Allow sound output in to the car's speaker via digital path (no DAC exchange). Also allow you to play any MP3 store in the SGS2 or listen to stream music via Pandora, Grooveshark...etc...etc. Also can double back as a handsfree in-car unit
Seems like iPhone has MANY of these options, but I can't seem to locate one for my SGS2
My buddy that works for a car audio place said that pioneer will have an android based head unit soon called app radio.
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adamthenewmaster said:
My buddy that works for a car audio place said that pioneer will have an android based head unit soon called app radio.
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The app radio from Pioneer works with the iPhone and iPod, not Android.
http://pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Car/AppRadio/AppRadio+(SPH-DA01)
mbze430 said:
Ok, I am looking for a DIGITAL car-kit integration. I don't want NO Bluetooth or Analog Line-Out from the headphone jack.
IS there any kit out there that will route audio directly from the USB OR mount the phone as a USB Mass Storage?
Sample of what I mean.... Plug your ATT SGS2 to an USB port that will route all audio in to the car's audio system. Allow sound output in to the car's speaker via digital path (no DAC exchange). Also allow you to play any MP3 store in the SGS2 or listen to stream music via Pandora, Grooveshark...etc...etc. Also can double back as a handsfree in-car unit
Seems like iPhone has MANY of these options, but I can't seem to locate one for my SGS2
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This is impossible unfortunately. Trying to keep it completely digital isn't necessary either, since the head unit needs to convert those digital signals into analog output into your speakers. To the best of my knowledge there is no USB audio bridge available for phones, and your head unit wouldn't know what to do with that kind of input if it was even possible. Just use the Aux out for best audio quality, and make sure you either use a heavily shielded cable, or get a Ground Loop Isolator, or you may hear alternator whine.
I have a Motorola Triumph (running CM7) and stream music via Bluetooth to my Sony DSX-S300BTX head unit in my car. The quality and consistency of the audio is flawless and can also use my head unit to change tracks and pause/play music with no issue. I recently began using Google Music on my PC and it made sense to use the Android app for accessibility purposes. The only drawback I have experienced is that the artist and song title info is no longer shown on my car stereo. This functionality worked perfectly using my previous phone (WP7 LG Quantum w/ Zune Pass) and on my current Triumph with the stock music app packaged with any version of CM7. I download and listen to quite a bit of new music and this functionality is pretty much a must have feature for my primary music app.
Does anyone know of a fix/hack for this issue? The only workaround I have thought of would be to sync music via the Google Music app and then listen to it via the stock music app. This is less than ideal due to the fact it involves 2 apps and takes away the option to stream music not downloaded to my phone. Also, the Google Music app has a much nicer UI compared to the stock app. If you don't know of a specific fix, but have some knowledge of A2DP and AVRCP Bluetooth profiles and could point me in the right direction as to what all goes into making this work, that would be awesome.
I've a suggestion, most of the Sony headset has aux in, so you can buy an aux in cable in shop, it is quite cheap, I get my 3 metre cable for about Rm3.50 ~2us$. The output quality of the sound should be good compared with Bluetooth. You won't be able to change track via headset, only phone. If you want a great quality, it is a good choice
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I've a suggestion, most of the Sony headset has aux in, so you can buy an aux in cable in shop, it is quite cheap, I get my 3 metre cable for about Rm3.50 ~2us$. The output quality of the sound should be good compared with Bluetooth. You won't be able to change track via headset, only phone. If you want a great quality, it is a good choice
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It has an auxiliary input, as well as 2 USB inputs, but I definitely do not want to use a wired connection. I considered mounting a Nook Color in my car using the aux input and purchasing a head unit that focused purely on audio quality since the Nook would be the central control mechanism by design. The big reason I bought the Sony head unit was for the excellent Bluetooth integration. I don't want to mess with wires, worry about carry a thumb drive with music on it, or worry about constantly updating the flash drive with new music. My current setup is exactly what I envisioned except for the track info problem which I am almost certain is app/phone specific. If I can just get this last little thing figured out I will have everything I want out of my set up. Information regarding this issue seems to be pretty spotty, so any input would be appreciated.
same issue
I have the same issue with my 2012 Volvo and my Sony Arc. While streaming with my 2 year old blackberry it will show the song info text in the car stereo but with my Sony Arc it just says "streaming". The skipping of songs back and forth works fine with the car controls although it seems for both phones you cannot scroll the song menu in the phone like you would with a USB stick or play random.
Did you find a work around to this?
I have 2011 Ford Focus and my wife's phone (SG2) streams track info, yet her old HTC Desire nor my HTC Desire HD dont. I have tried heaps of roms. Is it a hardware limitation?
I've read that some newer bluetooth headphones can be paired with two devices at once. I'm curious if the following scenarios are possible:
1) While listening to music on my Prime with the headphones, a call on my phone will ring through on the headphones. I can then use the headphone controls to answer or drop the call, after which the music on my Prime will continue.
2) While listening to music on my phone, I can start a Youtube video on my Prime, which pauses my phone's music and begins the Youtube audio on the headphones. Once finished the music on my phones resumes.
Is anyone using their bluetooth headset with both their phone and Prime?
Yes you can it os possible
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What your looking for is commonly called MULTIPOINT. Most higher or even mid end bluetooth headsets will let you connect to two or more devices at the same time. Consider if you are paying more than, say, $50 for a half decent headset it SHOULD have it. If it doesnt have at least multipoint 2 i wouldnt get it.
To stream music you are looking for A2DP or AVRCP.
A2DP is your basic music streaming. Much higher quality than your standard voice protocols, keps the music from sounding too tinny.
AVRCP is more fancy, my car stereo has this where i can use media buttons (forward, back, pause, etc.) to control the music. Depending on the device it may also display track information.
Now that we got the hardware side down, lets move on to your scenerios.
You can have media connected to ONE device and voice connected to ONE device for most quality bluetooth headsets. You can play music and if you get a call it will PAUSE the music to notify of the incoming call. Easy.
The second scenario is a bit more complicated. You can only stream music from ONE device at a time. If i have my bluetooth connected to my phone and my computer at the same time for audio i can play movies from my computer to the headset then play audio from my phone to the headset but if i have ANY audio coming from the computer the headset wont accept music from the phone. In most cases i find it easier to turn off bluetooth on my laptop when i want to hear music from my phone, or at least turn off all media players and wait ~30 seconds before switching devices.
In all, yes it can be done, much how others have said, but now hopefully you know what to look for. I remember how difficult it was for me jumping into this blind, maybe my information can help you buy the right hardware. Good luck!
Additionally, which headset are you going with?
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Additionally, which headset are you going with?
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Through research I believe the Samsung HS3000 is a good option. It has a new bluetooth music codec called Apt-X which is supposed to be higher quality than A2DP if both the headset and phone/tablet support it.
If I go that route I'll try to upgrade my phone to a Samsung SIII or HTC One X which both support Apt-X. The Transformer Prime unfortunately does not, but I'll only use it to watch quick internet videos while browsing in this case.
for primairy use of listening to music / movies, that should be decent. The mic placement makes me think that it would not be as good for calls as a headset you wear on your ear but it depends how often you use it.
Never heard of Apt-X, will have to research it probably part of bluetooth 3.0, different frequency, more bandwidth. should be interesting!
First android phone I've had that has this issue.
I have my phone paired with my car's OEM bluetooth (confirmed by my car), but everytime I try and stream a song it still plays through my phone speaker instead of my car, even though my car shows it playing. I've used 5 other android phones with my car with zero issues. Any ideas?
With the sim card issue and now this, I'm thinking of returning this phone.
I have no problems whatsoever. What rom are you running? Details?
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I'd say its a simple menu option on the phone. Mine is perfectly happy to play music and navigation instructions through the Bluetooth. Are you able to make/receive calls through Bluetooth?
Try something for me.
Open up the YouTube app and at the top there will be a blue button. Press it. This toggles sound through speakers/Bluetooth.
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First android phone I've had that has this issue.
I have my phone paired with my car's OEM bluetooth (confirmed by my car), but everytime I try and stream a song it still plays through my phone speaker instead of my car, even though my car shows it playing. I've used 5 other android phones with my car with zero issues. Any ideas?
With the sim card issue and now this, I'm thinking of returning this phone.
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I have never had your problem however. Since i have and the DNA after i paired the phone with my car. While in the Bluetooth setting i had to click the radio option to connect it. It never would automatically connect till after i did that. Now it connects when i turn it on.
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I have never had your problem however. Since i have and the DNA after i paired the phone with my car. While in the Bluetooth setting i had to click the radio option to connect it. It never would automatically connect till after i did that. Now it connects when i turn it on.
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My wife's DNA autoconnects ever since we originally paired hers to her car, and I don't remember having to enable anything beyond just the initial pairing.
Settings menu for connection
brian85 said:
First android phone I've had that has this issue.
I have my phone paired with my car's OEM bluetooth (confirmed by my car), but everytime I try and stream a song it still plays through my phone speaker instead of my car, even though my car shows it playing. I've used 5 other android phones with my car with zero issues. Any ideas?
With the sim card issue and now this, I'm thinking of returning this phone.
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Only one of two things I can think of:
- You get into the car with another device connected with AVRCP capabilities, and it's taking priority over your car's media audio connection. Thus, you're left with the car connected to phone audio, and your bluetooth headphones/Jambox/etc. playing music. HOwever, you specifically mentioned the music was playing through your phone speaker, so the only other possibility is...
- Go into settings, Bluetooth, and click on the sliders/settings icon next to your car's connection name. Ensure both Media Audio and Phone Audio are checked.
Beyond that, I would try unpairing all your Bluetooth profiles and reconnecting them. BT has been pretty finnicky for me, across handsets and accessories.
Sense devices haven't worked well in my car. Other devices have seemed to work a little better. But my car is a 2005. So think it depends on the car software. You might try upgrading the firmware on your car's setup if all of the other options fail.
No BT music streaming here too
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Only one of two things I can think of:
- You get into the car with another device connected with AVRCP capabilities, and it's taking priority over your car's media audio connection. Thus, you're left with the car connected to phone audio, and your bluetooth headphones/Jambox/etc. playing music. HOwever, you specifically mentioned the music was playing through your phone speaker, so the only other possibility is...
- Go into settings, Bluetooth, and click on the sliders/settings icon next to your car's connection name. Ensure both Media Audio and Phone Audio are checked.
Beyond that, I would try unpairing all your Bluetooth profiles and reconnecting them. BT has been pretty finnicky for me, across handsets and accessories.
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I also do not get why my dna won't stream through BT in my car or truck. I mostly listen to Pandora...I know there is a BT setting in the app and I have it enabled. I can receive/make calls fine but if I want to stream Pandora through the vehicles speakers, I have to plug in the 3.5 mm jack. In my BT settings on the dna, I only have Phone Audio, no option for Media Audio? In BT settings, under Advanced, there is FTP server (not checked) and Message access, which is checked and that's it? I have not tried another music source to try to stream, but I'll try that next. Update: just tried Slacker radio and it doesn't come through the vehicles speakers either
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Try something for me.
Open up the YouTube app and at the top there will be a blue button. Press it. This toggles sound through speakers/Bluetooth.
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For me, I do not see any blue button at the top in my YouTube app?
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damagickid said:
I have never had your problem however. Since i have and the DNA after i paired the phone with my car. While in the Bluetooth setting i had to click the radio option to connect it. It never would automatically connect till after i did that. Now it connects when i turn it on.
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Where exactly is this "radio option" you mentioned? I do not see any setting for that in Bluetooth on the DNA, maybe you have that option in your BT settings in your car? Can you actually stream Pandora in your vehicle through BT on your DNA (stock?)
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For me, I do not see any blue button at the top in my YouTube app?
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You have to be connected to a Bluetooth device. Its next to the sear h button.
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My car, when pairing asks for a second step to enable Bluetooth audio... it may be a setting within the cars BT system...
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There is a Bluetooth audio streaming problem with the recent non-GPS Toyota head units. I have a 2012 4Runner, and I'm only able to get the Google Play Music app to stream for a few seconds. The phone thinks it's still working, but nothing is getting through to the stereo. There was a thread about this started over on Rootzwiki. I've been told that the stock HTC music app will work, but in don't keep any media on my phone. I've tried Audible, Play Music, and Dog Catcher. Bluetooth calls work just fine.
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I also do not get why my dna won't stream through BT in my car or truck. I mostly listen to Pandora...I know there is a BT setting in the app and I have it enabled. I can receive/make calls fine but if I want to stream Pandora through the vehicles speakers, I have to plug in the 3.5 mm jack. In my BT settings on the dna, I only have Phone Audio, no option for Media Audio? In BT settings, under Advanced, there is FTP server (not checked) and Message access, which is checked and that's it? I have not tried another music source to try to stream, but I'll try that next. Update: just tried Slacker radio and it doesn't come through the vehicles speakers either
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It isn't enough that your head unit is "Bluetooth enabled". There are many capabilities: phone, hands free, BT audio, etc. On many models, only phone capabilities are included. For BT Audio to be output, you need a head unit that is A2DP capable (above, I typed AVRCP, which is incorrect - AVRCP allows the BT device to control playback...the RC stands for remote control). A2DP is the profile the BT device (in this case your head unit) uses to tell the phone what capabilities it can handle. In this case, it's only telling the phone it has headset capabilities, and therefore will never output audio. Solution: get a new head unit, or just continue to use the 3.5MM jack, which has two benefits: it's ****ing free, and you can take advantage of the Beats Audio amp within the phone.
FYI, with stock Hyundai, Kia, Ford Sync head units, I've been able to output all audio: Google Music, Pandora, Slacker, DoggCatcher, along with all system sounds and notifications. I really don't think this is a phone problem, it's usually something going wacky at the car's end. See bluefoam's comment above about having to enable A2DP in the car's settings. Never seen this, but proof of the idiocy of head unit makers sometimes.
Hope that helps. This doesn't seem to be an issue with the OP, because he said he'd been able to play music over BT with other phones, so I'm intrigued to know if this is a problem with an unchecked box like I mentioned, or if there's something else going on.
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It isn't enough that your head unit is "Bluetooth enabled". There are many capabilities: phone, hands free, BT audio, etc. On many models, only phone capabilities are included. For BT Audio to be output, you need a head unit that is A2DP capable (above, I typed AVRCP, which is incorrect - AVRCP allows the BT device to control playback...the RC stands for remote control). A2DP is the profile the BT device (in this case your head unit) uses to tell the phone what capabilities it can handle. In this case, it's only telling the phone it has headset capabilities, and therefore will never output audio. Solution: get a new head unit, or just continue to use the 3.5MM jack, which has two benefits: it's ****ing free, and you can take advantage of the Beats Audio amp within the phone.
FYI, with stock Hyundai, Kia, Ford Sync head units, I've been able to output all audio: Google Music, Pandora, Slacker, DoggCatcher, along with all system sounds and notifications. I really don't think this is a phone problem, it's usually something going wacky at the car's end. See bluefoam's comment above about having to enable A2DP in the car's settings. Never seen this, but proof of the idiocy of head unit makers sometimes.
Hope that helps. This doesn't seem to be an issue with the OP, because he said he'd been able to play music over BT with other phones, so I'm intrigued to know if this is a problem with an unchecked box like I mentioned, or if there's something else going on.
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Yes, very helpful, thanks. And yea, its really not a big deal to plug in the jack...my car and truck both came with audio jacks so at least there's that.