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Hi guys,
I'm planning to upgrade to a TB hopefully
this weekend, but also considering the iphone.
I'm about 70/30 in favor of the TB
Just wanted to get your input and see if you
guys that already have your TB, used it, gotten
comfortable etc:
- Can you still say that you are happy w/ your
decision?
- any items that you dislike that you've discovered
from your daily use that you had not noticed before?
- build quality still holding up well?
Thanks for your time
I've had my bolt for about 2 months now and I am very pleased with it. I never had the reboot issues so that was a non factor. Battery life honestly isn't that bad. I can make it 12 hours which is enough.
That's probably largely due to rooting and installing custom ROMs, which is actually the biggest advantage. The developer support is massive on this device, at least matching what I was used to on the Incredible, which had some of the best dev support next to the Evo and Nexus devices.
Don't fret the lack of a dual core processor, I honestly thought I would but clocked at 1.4 I don't notice ANY lag. And honestly, having a slow network (IE not Verizon 4G) would cause far more noticeable slow down than not having a second processor.
Hope this helps!
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I agree with all of the above. I've had mine about 2 months as well, and I wouldn't trade it for anything. I briefly considered exchanging my TB for a Droid Charge, but the Charge dev support is virtually nonexistant, and I can't stand Touchwiz. I've had better battery life with other phones, but I routinely get 16-20 hrs on my TB and I have a couple of extra batteries, so the battery isn't an issue for me. Mine is slightly overclocked (1.4ghz) and the Sense UI is silky smooth, so even though it has a single core cpu, it handles everything I throw at it. As mentioned before, you'll appreciate the difference between 3G vs. 4G much more than single vs. dual core.
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I agree too . I had iphones since first gen . Even when iPhone 4 came out I was talking smack bout Android phones . But I switched to Verizon from ATT and was debating either iPhone 4 again or thunder bolt . Picked the TB to test out . And gladly I say I made a good move that day . Great phone and puts the iPhone in the ditch .
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I love it. Das BAMF just came out with 4 new rom versions under 24 hours.
Christmas in July.
But to answer "- Can you still say that you are happy w/ your
decision?" Yes because it has kickstand.
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Yes because it has kickstand.
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When I bought this phone I thought the kickstand was absolutely the dumbest thing I've ever seen on a phone. Fast forward three months and now if I look at a phone and it doesn't have a kickstand I wonder how the user is able to deal with it.
Mine did nothing but glitch and power off with factory flash. 1 week later I love it... running MR2.5, BAMF Stripped 2.1, and lots of apps.
Temptation
The Samsung Galaxy S2 is tempting to me. I personally think the device looks amazing.
I remember when a kickstand and a FFC were the big draws.
I even got a 3rd line on my account just so I could get this phone.
But with 3D phones, dual core processors and fancier UIs I'm a little bummed out about this phone. If it wasn't for BAMF I'd have probably just sulked until the next big thing. As you can see I don't wait long to jump on the newest device (BTW, the mythical Bionic and GS2 don't impress me so it might be a looooong wait ):
Droid 1 - 11/09 - 4/10
Droid Inc - 4/10 - 7/10
Droid X - 7/10 - 3/11
Thunderbolt - 3/11 - present
The thunderbolt is well beyond expectation. The 4G LTE network is literally 20 to 30 times faster than the iPhone's 3G network, there are a couple dozen ROMs to test, and Android is better than iOS.
Also, there's a kickstand on the Thunderbolt, how can you not love it? If you overclock to 1.4 GHz like many of us do, you will most likely notice no lag. If you're smart with your battery, and take steps to save it, you should be able to get 12+ hours with it, even with somewhat heavy internet use and even a few videos or games everyday.
I love my Thunderbolt.
I had read all about battery life issues but decided to go for it anyway.
No battery issues to speak of and after rooter and going to BAMF the battery is even better.
The 4G speed is outstanding where available. I get 5mbps around my area (Mountain View, CA) but when I go to San Francisco it hits 20mbps+. Doesn't seem to matter where in San Francisco I am either, speeds are always amazing.
I never thought I'd use the kickstand. I just thought it would be there.. but I use it all the time. I do wish you could charge the phone while using the kickstand.. this seems like a major screw up on the people who designed the phone.
The Thunderbolt is the best 4g option right now, if it were me I'd get it before 7/7 to get locked into the unlimited 4g. If 4g isn't something you care about then I'd say the Droid X or X2. I like my Thunderbolt but not as much as my X, the thunderbolt is lacking in build quality, Motorola have always had the best from my experience.
my friend had one, but he sold it allready and will never buy a htc again.
He told me, it was ok, but nothing special..
most older htc models sucks anyway, mostly because of their bad camera and clumsyness.
Still loving the Thunderbolt. While the charge has a nicer looking screen, I still prefer HTC and the Sense UI over any other UI
I went from an Incredible to the tbolt and its not a switch I've second guessed for a second. Had mine rooted the same day I got it. I don't see how an iFone holds a candle to the tbolt in any way.
appreciate everyone's response
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I've had my bolt for about 2 months now and I am very pleased with it. I never had the reboot issues so that was a non factor. Battery life honestly isn't that bad. I can make it 12 hours which is enough.
That's probably largely due to rooting and installing custom ROMs, which is actually the biggest advantage. The developer support is massive on this device, at least matching what I was used to on the Incredible, which had some of the best dev support next to the Evo and Nexus devices.
Don't fret the lack of a dual core processor, I honestly thought I would but clocked at 1.4 I don't notice ANY lag. And honestly, having a slow network (IE not Verizon 4G) would cause far more noticeable slow down than not having a second processor.
Hope this helps!
Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt
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awesome, thank tct08 for the sharing your experience
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Mine did nothing but glitch and power off with factory flash. 1 week later I love it... running MR2.5, BAMF Stripped 2.1, and lots of apps.
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great that's definitely encouraging. I've been looking at the section w/ all the roms in it and i'm thinking i'm going to try one BAMF's roms
i keep seeing mr1/2 throughout the forums - what exactly is/does that mean? from what i've read it does it have to do w/ gingerbread at all?
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The thunderbolt is well beyond expectation. The 4G LTE network is literally 20 to 30 times faster than the iPhone's 3G network, there are a couple dozen ROMs to test, and Android is better than iOS.
Also, there's a kickstand on the Thunderbolt, how can you not love it? If you overclock to 1.4 GHz like many of us do, you will most likely notice no lag. If you're smart with your battery, and take steps to save it, you should be able to get 12+ hours with it, even with somewhat heavy internet use and even a few videos or games everyday.
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thanks matt for your user experience as well. @ this point i'm definitely going to go w/ the TB, my wife's planning to go w/ the iphone route lol.
for overclocking, is there a tutorial on how to get that done? is that involving changing the kernal or something?
- - Another question I had that for you guys: on my current blackberry I have multiple email accts on it
w/ the thunderbolt how many email accts can you setup on it? is it only 1 main one that we need to forward all emails to or ability to setup multiple accts?
thx again
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When I bought this phone I thought the kickstand was absolutely the dumbest thing I've ever seen on a phone. Fast forward three months and now if I look at a phone and it doesn't have a kickstand I wonder how the user is able to deal with it.
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Wow that is how I felt. I thought phones with kickstands were absolutely DUMB. Now after having the TBolt for a few weeks I can't see how I ever lived without one haha. I LOVE this phone. The build quality is awesome. It's not scary to put down and handle like the iPhone 4 (glass cell phone....really? idiots!!!). The only thing I'm not huge on is battery life but I got the extended 2750mAhbattery so it all works out! Screw the locked down garden of iOS and get the TBolt!!
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The Thunderbolt is the best 4g option right now, if it were me I'd get it before 7/7 to get locked into the unlimited 4g. If 4g isn't something you care about then I'd say the Droid X or X2. I like my Thunderbolt but not as much as my X, the thunderbolt is lacking in build quality, Motorola have always had the best from my experience.
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Not hating on you but you really think the Droid X/X2 have a better build quality? My buddy has the X and to me it feels cheaper than the TBolt. Obviously it's our opinions and subjective overall but it just shocked me to read that.
- - Another question I had that for you guys: on my current blackberry I have multiple email accts on it
w/ the thunderbolt how many email accts can you setup on it? is it only 1 main one that we need to forward all emails to or ability to setup multiple accts?
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I have 4 different emails setup all update just fine, the main issue with the bolt is htc and vzw screwed the pooch on the OS but the devs stepped up, it does have one of the largest group of devs working on it.
Bamf is runnin' my bolt - smoke that vzw!
One thing I really wish was different is the the location of usb port. I can't use the kickstand and and netflix at the same time, unless I'm lying on my side and have it kickstood portrait mode. I really think that the usb location should have been in between of the onoff button and 3.5 headset port. Tbh anywhere but the side it is now. =)
I love it. Rooted with a little love it is a very powerful device..stock is another story..
Hello everyone, I have faithfully used my eris since its release and now that I have had an upgrade available for use for quite a while, i've been getting antsy. I really would like to get an htc phone for the sense experience (i use footprints quite often), but also really like the screen on the droid charge and the dual core-y goodness of the dx2 (but hate that terrible motoblur and locked bootloader). I want to wait for the bionic, but really dont want a motorola phone.
I live near detroit, so I do have 4g support in my area, but how much of a speed difference does that make? I realize numbers-wise, 4g is a huge difference, but in actual real world performance, is it necessary? I feel that I barely use my eris now that I have my xoom (wifi only) and the only reason I think I would use a 4g phone would be to tether it to my xoom. The biggest issue i see is verizon starting to crack down on tethering and that in a few months I will be out tethering and a phone I am not particularly fond of.
Basically what it comes down to is that right now, I use my eris for texting, calls, quick browsing (for at the store or wherever, when i dont have my xoom with me), and basic apps such as weather and alarms. I would like to think that if I got a 4g phone, I still wouldnt use it to the best of its abilities just because i enjoy the tablet experience my xoom brings; leaving me with a phone that I use for the same things I use my eris for, but with worse battery life and such. I have always wanted to get the most cutting edge tech, but right now (and hopefully for the next 2 years ) I cant justify getting a 4g phone just for the 4g capabilities.
TLDR: Knowing I have 4g in my area and a xoom, which phone would you recommend?
PS: How's that droid commando?
If you have a Tegra tablet, which you admittedly use a lot more than your Eris, I don't think you really need a dual-core phone that badly, unless you'll be gaming a lot on your new phone. I suggest either the Droid Charge or the Thunderbolt, with my preference being the Charge. Verizon's 4G LTE is a lot faster than 3G, you want to have it if it's available to you, and both the Thunderbolt and Droid Charge will feel as fast as light compared to your Eris. I like the Charge because it has better battery life and a great looking SAMOLED+ display, but if you're a big Sense/HTC fan, you might prefer the Thunderbolt.
I like Moto phones, but no need to settle for a locked bootloader and a dual-core (and Blur until root comes to strip it out) when you'll be fine with a single core and freedom.
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Why not the Droid Incredible 2? It's not 4G or dual core, but it seems to have everything that you want otherwise.
I was definitely looking at the incredible 2, do u have any experience with it?
The reason i wasn't too sure about the current 4g offerings were my distrust of most samsung products (had a glyde a while back and it was horrible) and haven't really had many experiences with LG products (other than my original env) I wish verizon would get an htc device with sense 3.0, as that is a huge deal for me. If what i have read is correct, both the thunderbolt and the incredible 2 have had sense 3.0 ported to them, but aren't the fastest (please correct me if i am wrong).
Sense 3.0 stock devices coming to verizon soon would be awesome, but i haven't heard any yet.
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No, I still own and use an Eris. However, based on your typical use, based on your doubts about needing 3G, based on your preference for HTC products with the Sense launcher, you may want to go into a store and play around with one.
Sorry i didn't reply for a bit, but i've decided to stick it out with my eris until the sgs2 or bionic (but i really want the sgs2) come out. I flashed back to a 2.1 rom and it has been (in my experience) a lot faster than the cm7 rom i was on, making me less irritated and less impatient for a new phone. Thanks for all the help tho everyone
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The HTC Vigor has certainly peaked my interest lately since I really like HTC phones better over Motorola or Samsung.
Rumors are saying it will have a 4.3″ 720p HD screen (1280×720 resolution), with a 1.5GHz dual-core processor, 1GB RAM, 16GB internal storage, 8MP rear cam, 2MP front, Android 2.3.4 and will be similar in size and shape to the Thunderbolt, but without the kickstand.
I am on a Rezound and this phone is nice, but it has its share of issues(audio hiss/buzz when aux/headphones plugged in, dead pixels, overheating/freezing) & all are known issues.
I have until Friday to do an exchange with Best Buy. Was considering holding out for the Nexus but due to delay after delay I have my doubts it'll be out before Friday. That being the case, I'm seriously considering a RAZR instead.
Has it been working out well for the most part? Any issues like what I'm experiencing on this Rezound? How does the battery hold out under "heavy use"?(like if I want to watch a few movies back to back). Also, for that "fuzziness" on the text/icons, is there a filter to smooth that out?
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I am on a Rezound and this phone is nice, but it has its share of issues(audio hiss/buzz when aux/headphones plugged in, dead pixels, overheating/freezing) & all are known issues.
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I have experienced none of those issues with the RAZR. Keep in mind that under deep dark conditions with the screen at its lowest brightness setting against a black image, many units show some "smudges" or dots. If this concerns you, definitely check one out in the store ahead of time (try downloading draw! and open the app up on the lowest brightness underneath a jacket or shirt..people will probably stare..let them..haha) and judge how this effects you for yourself. I use mine as a night clock and though I can see some smudges in the middle of the night, they don't bother me.
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I have until Friday to do an exchange with Best Buy. Was considering holding out for the Nexus but due to delay after delay I have my doubts it'll be out before Friday. That being the case, I'm seriously considering a RAZR instead.
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I gave up on the Nexus myself. Lack of USB mass storage was the final nail in the coffin for me. I think the RAZR has the potential to turn out a better ICS device than the Nexus.
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Has it been working out well for the most part? Any issues like what I'm experiencing on this Rezound? How does the battery hold out under "heavy use"?(like if I want to watch a few movies back to back). Also, for that "fuzziness" on the text/icons, is there a filter to smooth that out?
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I LOVE my RAZR. Best Android phone I've owned to date. (Prev: Epic 4G, Droid 2, Nexus S, MyTouch 4G, LG G2X, Sensation 4G). Under light use, the battery literally lasts for days if you make proper use of the smart actions. Heavy use? I can't comment on video playback time, but I get about 4-5 hours of 3D gaming before running into battery trouble. There is no filter to help the pixelation around text that the Pentile screen creates, but it doesn't bother me. I find myself impressed by the deep blacks and color reproduction far more often than I do focusing on the Pentile effect, but again, you should view this in person yourself to be sure as everyone is different.
I haven't had the phone very long, only about a week, but so far no issues whatsoever with overheating or freezing at all. This wasn't the case with my OG droid or my droid 2 global.
I got this phone from someone else, so I don't have a contract and will probably switch to the droid 4 when it comes out, but won't consider the Galaxy Nexus at this point, as I can't have a plastic phone. I'm hard on my phones with keeping them in the same pocket as keys, and other items, and have broken many a plastic mounted phone just from that alone.
I do, however don't like the size of the phone overall. I find it a bit too large for me, and have had issues handling it....I'm hoping the Droid 4 has a bit smaller overall dimensions. Also I find the keyboard gives a better grip to the phone...but that's personal preference.
If you're adjusted the Rezound size, you shouldn't have an issue with this.
For screens, this screen is great. I actually was lucky and got one without the dark dots in dark light, so I can't comment on that experience, but the pentile is really almost imperceptible to me. You really have to strain your eyesight to pick up the pentile on this screen. I also agree with brianbrain on the deep blacks and color reproduction on the phone. It's a very good screen, IMO.
I've never owned an HTC phone, but have heard a few complaints similar to what you're talking about with their phones. I know Motorola is not always forthcoming with updates, and they release phones so quickly, you feel they're just out there to screw the consumer, but my experience has been completely different. I couldn't have lived without my OG droid, until the screen went out 1.8 years later, and I had my D2G that was a KILLER phone until I left in Thailand recently. The RAZR is a great addition to the Droid line, and I've had a blast with it since I got it last week.
Phone is awesome. Nothing wrong with this phone. Best phone I've had.
I'm more in live with this phone then the thunderbolt I had. Tbolt felt cheap. screen quality was lacking, and it just seemed slow. I know the rezound is different then the tbolt. But i'm leary on any HTC phone.
The razr feels very solid, very fast and the screen is great (even with the splotches in very low light). I've had battery issues with the media process. I haven't hooked my phone up to a 3.5mm input, so I can't say about any hissing. Having hooked it up to my Bose ie2, it absolutely sounds fantastic.
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I had an Incredible 2, which is kind of the oddball in the HTC lineup as it is one of their only phones that has GREAT battery life (even more ironic considering the T-bolt was so bad and the phones are so similar in hardware) I ended up getting a Razr recently because long story short Verizon was struggling to get 4G going on my tablet on their end so I said screw it and told them to send me a 4G phone.
Even coming from the Inc2, the Razr is a lot better on battery than I thought it was gonna be. Worse than the Inc2 for sure, but it has a bigger display and faster hardware. On 3G (LTE isn't in my specific city yet, but I've used it in others) I make it all day, and I work for 12 hours and use the phone moderately to heavily when I take breaks and get bored. That's acceptable for me considering no matter what I do, I'm gonna plug the phone up at night regardless. When in 4G areas, the speeds are pretty impressive and consistently good. I was averaging 20mbps down and 11-15 up in Augusta, GA.
I played around with the Rezound in the store. It's not a knock on the Rezound specifically, I have not been impressed at all by Sense 3.5. They may as well call it Sense Vista. On the Incredible 2 we have a few Sense 3.5 roms and while they're pretty, to me I can't find the will to run them as a DD because they're laggy. At the time I chalked it up as the Single core snapdragon in the Inc2 struggling to run such a big and graphic intense rom. Then I played around with the Rezound. No real difference. Both are pretty slow compared to Sense 2.1/3.0 honestly. Hopefully Sense 4.0 and ICS will change that, but I'm doubtful given HTC seems to be getting lazier with every new version of Sense.
After a week and a half with the Razr:
Screen rocks IMO
Battery life is better than expected. I go all day (12-14 hours) on one charge, using 4G (maybe 30-40 minutes of phone calls).
Phone is very fast
Width is very akward at first, but you get used to it. First few days you freak out every time you grab for it.
Smart Actions will be great once they tweak them a bit
Voice quality and signal for phone is awesome (coming from an HTC Inc)
I was really wanting a Nexus, got impatient. The battery life, voice quality, and screen on the Nexus would have to be WAY better to make me send the Razr back.
I've had just about every android phone going....nearly ;-)
Actually had the Razr(GSM) for 2 weeks,pretty much loved the phone but was just waiting on the Nexus(GSM).
Well I've had the Nexus since friday,not really impresed,was rooted and custom rommed straight away,buggy as hell.Battery life sucks and that's with GSM, LTE is gonna be even worse.
Cut a long story short,Nexus sold,Razr's coming back. Go for the Razr.
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I'm coming from the Nexus S. Like the phone so far. Motorola did a pretty good job considering I usually like stock Android.
UI doesn't feel intrusive. Motorola seems to have added a lot of useful functions. Been running ICS on the Nexus S, but don't miss it due to the RAZR's hardware.
The phone is amazingly fast. Feel like I've been wasting my time modding the Nexus S so much lately cause the RAZR blows it out of the water even with all the bloatware.
Only problem I've run into so far is blotches on the screen when it is black and the room is dark. Not as bad as some other pics I saw, but still going to try and exchange. Also found a dead pixel.
If I can get a device with a good screen, I think I will stay with the RAZR. I've only seen the Galaxy Nexus display model... possibly might exchange for it when it comes out.
Really like the form factor of the RAZR better tho. If the RAZR had a 720p screen I'd probably be able to easily ignore the Nexus.
Chelsea FC said:
I've had just about every android phone going....nearly ;-)
Actually had the Razr(GSM) for 2 weeks,pretty much loved the phone but was just waiting on the Nexus(GSM).
Well I've had the Nexus since friday,not really impresed,was rooted and custom rommed straight away,buggy as hell.Battery life sucks and that's with GSM, LTE is gonna be even worse.
Cut a long story short,Nexus sold,Razr's coming back. Go for the Razr.
How is the signal strength compared between the 2? Ive noticed samsung always seems to have a weaker signal...My galaxy s/fascinate has a horrible signal. I want the nexus but the razr is looking sooo nice i can wait for ICS
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How is the signal strength compared between the 2? Ive noticed samsung always seems to have a weaker signal...My galaxy s/fascinate has a horrible signal. I want the nexus but the razr is looking sooo nice i can wait for ICS [/QUOTE]
I would say the Razr is a tad better, moto is renowned for having good radios
Build quality wise there is no contest for me. Nexus is way too slippery and plasticky for my liking. Modders are already working day & night to make the nexus usable, the Razr works pretty much out of the box. 'When' ICS comes, I think it'll blow everything away.
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Chelsea FC said:
How is the signal strength compared between the 2? Ive noticed samsung always seems to have a weaker signal...My galaxy s/fascinate has a horrible signal. I want the nexus but the razr is looking sooo nice i can wait for ICS
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Im getting razr tomorrow buying it outright optus network TELECHOICE (GSM AUS)
for $600 from monne ponds vic (told the guy id give him a plug)
i'll let you know how it goes in terms of battery life on GSM
as far as i know motorola's antennas are PRETTY SWEET ... so dont worry about reception.. worry about downloading lots to feed that screen with awesome multimedia and moto cast
samsungs antennas are not bad... but motorola's track record with radios is proven (from UHF RADIOS to SATs experience counts)
nexus has ics but is trolling with bugs i had a play with it ... also looks so ugly next to the razr ... only good thing is the screen .....
however that said the bugs with ics troll the phone making it laggy and you can get jerky playback
so i decided get razr with ginger (motoblur customised to be more like an unbuggy ics) then next year when things perfect the razr will get ics
anyhow thats my rant hope it helps =]
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Chelsea FC said:
How is the signal strength compared between the 2? Ive noticed samsung always seems to have a weaker signal...My galaxy s/fascinate has a horrible signal. I want the nexus but the razr is looking sooo nice i can wait for ICS
I would say the Razr is a tad better, moto is renowned for having good radios
Build quality wise there is no contest for me. Nexus is way too slippery and plasticky for my liking. Modders are already working day & night to make the nexus usable, the Razr works pretty much out of the box. 'When' ICS comes, I think it'll blow everything away.
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Hard for me to compare since I'm using T-Mobile and Verizon right now. T-Mobile's reception isn't too great in my area, so that's a main reason for me switching.
So far the reception on my RAZR has been great. Blows my Nexus out of the water in that respect, but not sure how much of that is attributed to the phone itself.
Definitely want to keep this phone... just wish the screen problems didn't exist.
google and motorola
apparently motorola will have more say with ics and customisations seeing as google acquired some share/part of motorola which comes in handy .. for razr and future moto users =D
maybe stuff pushed to us sooner ?
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apparently motorola will have more say with ics and customisations seeing as google acquired some share/part of motorola which comes in handy .. for razr and future moto users =D
maybe stuff pushed to us sooner ?
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Got a friend who works over at Moto mobility. He was one of the lead design heads on the Xoom & Droid 4.
The Google acquisition isn't going to truly affect platform builds and blur reductions till late 2H 2012.
They are still working out details on who and what is going where, and how programmers are going to be moved and cut. There's also the small thing of full FCC approval which still hasn't happened as well as EU approvals, which are needed for this (for more info, check out the WSJ article that came out yesterday on the subject). That should be completed by about Feb/March according to him, and then we'll really see some interesting movements. Right now everything is in stasis as far as building and coding are concerned.
So I wouldn't expect any increases in update frequency for a while, and I definitely wouldn't count on Android becoming less bloated on new moto phones for a while to say the least.
There's also been a lot of talk in his office about how Google may not put anything in place, because it could affect their relationship and promises to other handset makers, if they start tweeking with Moto's team a whole bunch.
I'll release info as I get it from him.....although he's interviewing with the automotive division of Moto, as he's not all that satisfied with the position at mobility. They have HEAVY requirements and deadlines, that he seems to think are totally unrealistic....but hey...how many people are really happy with all aspects of their job??
I wonder if the screen issue has been resolved (or even exists) in the GSM versions out there right now. Thinking of getting the Razr but am holding back due to development and the screen issue... Can someone give me an answer about this?
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Was considering holding out for the Nexus
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With a release date of tomorrow, you don't have long to wait on the Nexus, better be at BB early to make sure you get one.
Droid RZR
I just bought the new Droid Rzr today. It seems pretty fast and awesome, however , when I am connected to WIFI, and try to browse in the market, it acts like theres no connectivity. I can browse the web pretty fast when this problem is occuring, then when I disable the WIFI it works. Ive worked for Comcast for five years and I have lots of experience dealing with this kind of stuff, so I know its not the router. Anyone else having this issue?
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I just bought the new Droid Rzr today. It seems pretty fast and awesome, however , when I am connected to WIFI, and try to browse in the market, it acts like theres no connectivity. I can browse the web pretty fast when this problem is occuring, then when I disable the WIFI it works. Ive worked for Comcast for five years and I have lots of experience dealing with this kind of stuff, so I know its not the router. Anyone else having this issue?
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I kinda have the same issue with you. I think it could be my router because out of the 3 routers that I have tried, only 1 is experiencing this problem. And only with the Razr that this happens. Something to do with the router and the phone settings? Anyone knows what might be the problem?
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I am on a Rezound and this phone is nice, but it has its share of issues(audio hiss/buzz when aux/headphones plugged in, dead pixels, overheating/freezing) & all are known issues.
I have until Friday to do an exchange with Best Buy. Was considering holding out for the Nexus but due to delay after delay I have my doubts it'll be out before Friday. That being the case, I'm seriously considering a RAZR instead.
Has it been working out well for the most part? Any issues like what I'm experiencing on this Rezound? How does the battery hold out under "heavy use"?(like if I want to watch a few movies back to back). Also, for that "fuzziness" on the text/icons, is there a filter to smooth that out?
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Read my Thread "Galaxy Nexus" I in general (razr) I just got word I'll have my press sample tomorrow so they are going to release after all. They should be at Best Buy tomorrow as well.
I have the nexus but I miss sense. Had the 3d forever liked it but switched to Verizon and liked this phone but, I am so used to all the sense widgets and look. Just debating and looking for feedback on me trading out for rezound... all feedback helps....
These threads should cover it all for you:
Switched from a Nexus to a Rezound
Yet another traded my Nexus for a Rezound post (novel)
Made the Switch
Switching to the Rezound - a few questions...
May switch from nexus...have some questions
I'm about to go the other way. Started on the Rezound... Nexus is probably where I'll end up.
I have compared these two phones rather extensively. We have a VZ corporate account where I work & I am the head of it. We have close to 200 phones on the account & I set up every one of them.
I get my phones free & I can basically have any phone I want at any time. If I wanted a GN, I could have one this afternoon & we have probably 20 of them here on our account.
There is only one thing I like better about the GN(now that the Rezound has been unlocked) & that is the screen size. I like that a LOT, if I could get a phone with a 5" screen I would buy it today. That being said, there is absolutely nothing else I like about the GN compared to the awesome Rezound.
I have owned a TON of phones & the Rezound is by far the best phone I have ever used.
~John
I love my Rezound. When I came from Sprint I bought the Rezound, picked up a GN, and exchanged it after 24 hours for another Rezound.
You can get just about any senselike widget in the market for your gn. I just got rid of my nexus for the resound. It fits in my hand much better. I do miss the large screen, soft keys, aosp roms, and super active forums of the gn though. Other than that, the rezound is just more comfortable in my hand which is the main reason I returned my gn. Oh yeah and the camera sucked on the gn. The rezound has better battery life.
Switched from a Galaxy Nexus 2 weeks ago - still very happy.
I think ICS is a step backward and the GN felt cheap and clumsy to hold. Love the Rezound - just wish it had more game compatibility.
I have both phones. Each has their perks, but the Rezound is my #1.
nexus holds nothing to this phone, IMO. i sell much more of these than nexuses... or nexi. lol
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Yes, still very happy with the phone. Wish it had better game support though. Also, for having an HD screen the picture quality on my Netflix is awful. Would have expected it to be the same or better than my ipad or ipod but it's quite a bit worse. The occasional screen glitch when opening or closing apps is slightly annoying but that could just be an issue with my phone and not every one though.
Overall, very satisfied with this phone. There are some features I would love to have but you could probably say the same thing about any phone.
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Also, for having an HD screen the picture quality on my Netflix is awful. .
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Netflix does not display in HD on the Rezound, that is one place the Nexus is better if you care about that. I use Netflix all the time, but I have an ipad 2 for that so I don't really care.
On the other hand, I am a big time football fan & I absolutely LOVE the VZ NFL app & last I knew that app doesn't work at all in the Nexus.
~John
I was lucky enough to have both phones for several weeks to compare and contrast. I sent the Nexus back to Verizon yesterday in favor of the Rezound. The Nexus has hardware issues that I could not live with. Specifically, the radios, the camera, and overall cheap build quality. Firmware updates and modding will never fix these issues.
I get having the Nexus for true development activities, but in terms of "real-world" functionality, the Rezound is the better device.
well I'm pretty confident I'm gonna switch. I sure appreciate everybody's input.
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I just happen to stumble across this in a comparison of the Nexus & the Rezound. These are not my words, this is copied & pasted from a review online:
Advantages of the Rezound over the Nexus:
1) At first a gimmick, I really like the iBeats and software for casual listening as I travel
2) The camera is much better
3) The hardware (CPU, GPU, Screen) are better IMHO
4) I like the feel of the Rezound much better
5) MASS Storage is possible
6) I moved my Class 10 SDMHC 32GB memory card from my old phone to my new (48GB total)
7) The extended battery is about 500 mAh larger
8) My EVO 4G was very well supported by HTC
9) Highest DPI screen in a phone, ever...
Here are my thoughts on the rezound. I will preface this by stating that I was, prior to my journey to verizon, an iphone (since 2007) user, up to and I still have the 4s on AT&T. I have carried a Verizon mi-fi, 4g hotspot, droid charge (solely for hotspot and unlimited data).
I was waiting to pull the trigger on any phone until the gnex arrived. I was underwhelmed with the phone hardware. While I live in SoCal, I am surrounded by hills and Verizon coverage is weak. All signal indications aside, I couldn't hold a call or a data connection with the Gnex. Loved ICS, it was very smooth and felt "polished" to a large extent.
I finally gave up and traded in for the rezound, because I liked the specs. I also picked up a droid razr to play around with. I am having a hard time between the two. I am spoiled by the iphone's display and I think the Rez is every bit as good, if not better on my eyes. It really is like reading printed material. I like that. But, it is think and I seem to see it switching off more to 3g than the razr. I like the feeling of the razr in my hand. It feels like a mini-tablet, but yet still small enough to be a phone. (does that make sense at all). However, I don't think I can live with seeing the pixelation on the display. Just spent the last 1.5 years without it and I don't think I can go back.
The rez is a great phone, but may be too thick for me and I don't particularly care for sense. I am going to desense it and see if that solves some of my issues. I know enough to know that if I don't enjoy using the phone, I will find something else to complain about (in this case, the thickness).
Just my experience so far. These are simply my opinions, and everyone has different hot buttons.
FYI, I don't really play games or use my phone for much more than some specific apps, email, talking (yes people still do that), and browsing. The iphone did that just fine, but was getting a little long in the tooth from a UI standpoint and I just hate the AT&T network drops and dead zones.
-jason
Headed to Verizon to exchange. Thanks for the responses.
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I'm very happy with mi rezound! I bought the nexus the day it came out after lurking it forever!!!However the phone just didn't do it for me. I'm no developer or anything(never rooted before) so maybe that's why I didn't dig the nexus so much. The battery was horrid, speaker made crazy screeching noises, lost data throughout the day, screen was a bit big/grainy, pictures I took sucked though instant, and also had problems with it rebooting while charging. I miss the sweet notification light, and ICS..thats bout it. I feel like samsung didn't want this phone to be much of a beast like anticipated...look at the comparisons to the galaxy s2.
Funny story with HTC, first time I got a phone it was the motorola droid2...suckked. Being the DINC was out so long, I never even bothered to check it out...though when I returned the droid2 for the DINC I was blown away of how sick HTC is...sorta similar to my second experience when upgrading my phone.
The rezound is great, I like the smaller size and battery life(When I bike, I always put it in my gym short pockets and jam to pandora...this seems nearly impossible to do with the nexus due to its size and short battery life). Quality of pictures are outstanding! The durability of the rezound is also promising. Sense is sweet too though I mainly use goexplorer...The speaker on the rezound is great, goes so loud!(so much better than the DINC2 speaker btw). I was also surprised that the rezound comes with many features that the nexus has(e.g. ability to have no screen lock, panorama picture abilities, slowmo video taking, ability to take screen shots). Basically this phone is an DINC on steroids...or maybe after going through puberty?
Reading these posts makes me glad i got rid of my nexus.
Just installed an HD Netflix app and it works super.
~John
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Just installed an HD Netflix app and it works super.
~John
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where did you find that?
Okay, looking to catch some advice from any of you RAZR MAXX or OG RAZR owners.
I'm contemplating throwing down the $300 for a RAZR MAXX, either through this deal somehow or by adding a line.
I guess, before I jump the gun (like I did with the D3), what are your general opinions with the Motorola Droid RAZR family compared to other phones you may have had or tried in the past. As far as I can tell with the 4G technology and battery capacity, the RAZR MAXX would land itself amongst the top-of-the-line smartphones offered by Verizon at the moment. I know some better phones will arrive soon, as they always do - but I would like to get your opinions and/or impressions of this phone in general.
Despite the locked bootloader, I've always loved the build quality of Motorola products. Saw the RAZR for the first time today and thought the AMOLED screen was nice and vibrant against my D3 in comparison.
1. - How does the screen really compare to others? I noticed the HTC Rezound has a 720p screen, but would that be worth it over the qHD AMOLED? I've also heard about tinting issues and black dots and so forth with earlier builds - would that be a worry now?
A few things about my D3 that disappoint - Lack of 4G, waiting for websites to load and such is almost a pain especially when I need something fast. I will be seeing plenty of 4G areas soon in my career (USAF) and I am grandfathered into the UNLIMITED data plan that I plan to switch the phone to on my primary line.
2. - How is the 4G working on the RAZR? I anticipate getting the MAXX, so battery life wont be an issue. My condolences go to those who jumped with the OG RAZR and got less than they expected in this sense.
Another big change for me would be jumping from the physical keyboard to the touch screen. I'm beginning to feel 'claustrophobic' with only a 4" screen on the D3 and kind of want a bigger screen.
3. - Can anyone provide their opinions about the on-screen typing? Larger screen size? Does it work well? I would hope auto correct would make it a bit easier to speed through texting and other typing scenarios?
Working with the D3 and only 512MB of memory, even with the dual-core 1 GHz processor I still experienced some lag between homescreens with widgets, the app drawer, etc. This sometimes interfered with my OCD a bit and I would expect butter-smooth performance with this kind of hardware.
4. - With the droid RAZR, how does the performance compare for any of you? Any lag with stock-live wallpaper? Motoblur? The stock phone in the VZW store seemed very smooth and up-to-par. I would like your opinions on this though.
So aside from those questions, anything else anyone would like to offer? Comparisons to other products? Stories of switching from the Nexus or Rezound to the RAZR? I know there are reviews already written that are out there, but those are usually one-person reviews. All of you here have your opinions, and I'd like you to share them - good or bad, the perks and the setbacks.
Thanks a bunch in advanced! I know this OP is long and detailed, but I'm sure with responses this thread could be helpful to more than just me.
1. For me, I found the screen really good. Colors were very vibrant. The black dots are apparently a part of the manufacturing process, according to the Moto sales associate I talked to. However, you don't notice it on normal usage. I've only actually seen it when I'm using the phone in a very dark room, with black background and low brightness (0%).
2. No idea for 4G, my country doesn't have that at the moment.
3. The keyboard is good, but I use Swype. It's the default input method. It's awesome. I can practically text without looking at the screen.
4. The performance is great. There's a slight bit of lag, but I'm using 65.1.12.XT910.PSHAsiaRetail.en.03. When I flashed to a different system version, the lag disappeared. Not sure if it's just me though.
Honestly, I had my doubts about buying the Razr at first. It was a tough choice between this, S2 or waiting for the Nexus. But I can say I'm satisfied with it. Only complain is the battery life, but since you're getting the Maxx, can say that it's a non-issue.
1.) I have an OG Razr, and I have to say that I'm very happy with the screen. It is "only" qHD but it's plenty sharp for reading text and watching movies. The colors are very vibrant, though reds can be a little too intense, imo. The little black dots do happen, sadly--but are only visible in conditions I would characterize as being outside of normal use (e.g. in the dark, with no lights on, displaying images that are pretty much all black). The yellowish tint that some users are reporting happens too, at low brightness settings, but I find that it's actually easier on my eyes than super whites for all the reading I do on my Razr. Check one out in-store and see if it's something that bothers you.
2.) 4G is great in my area, 30mb down and 20 up is pretty normal for me. 4G does tend to be a bit of a battery hog in my experience, but the humongous battery on the maxx should make that a non-issue.
3.) I actually ended up ditching the stock keyboard for Thumb Keyboard, and it works fairly well for a touch screen keyboard. I wouldn't recommend it for hammering out anything really long--I have a hard time not making mistakes when I type. The limiting factor for me is the width of the screen in portrait--it works plenty well in landscape but the amount of text that's viewable isn't enough for me. It should be fine for for texts and short emails.
4.) Performance is great. I run ADW in place of the moto launcher, have about 10 widgets running my home screens, and use pixel rain live wallpaper--I don't notice any lag, it's almost iPhone-like in its smoothness. It takes a little while for all of the widgets load up from the device being powered off, but once everything is up it's very smooth.
One of my friends (iPhone user) was playing around with my Razr and our other friend's GNex and he commented that my Razr--with ADW, widgets, and live wallpaper--felt smoother than the GNex with stock launcher, no live wallpaper, and just a couple widgets. Don't take that as gospel, by any means, but being that I was expecting to hear the opposite, it was a surprising observation.
My only quibble (minor) with the Razr is that the camera could be better. I don't know if it's the software, sensor, or both, but I feel like the camera on my iPhone 3GS actually took better pictures. It seems to have a bit of a hard time in low and artificial light. Again, try it out in store and see what you think.
All in all, I'm really very happy with my Razr. If you wind up getting one too I hope you're as happy with yours as I am with mine Hope this has been helpful!
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Okay, looking to catch some advice from any of you RAZR MAXX or OG RAZR owners.
I'm contemplating throwing down the $300 for a RAZR MAXX, either through this deal somehow or by adding a line.
I guess, before I jump the gun (like I did with the D3), what are your general opinions with the Motorola Droid RAZR family compared to other phones you may have had or tried in the past. As far as I can tell with the 4G technology and battery capacity, the RAZR MAXX would land itself amongst the top-of-the-line smartphones offered by Verizon at the moment. I know some better phones will arrive soon, as they always do - but I would like to get your opinions and/or impressions of this phone in general.
Despite the locked bootloader, I've always loved the build quality of Motorola products. Saw the RAZR for the first time today and thought the AMOLED screen was nice and vibrant against my D3 in comparison.
1. - How does the screen really compare to others? I noticed the HTC Rezound has a 720p screen, but would that be worth it over the qHD AMOLED? I've also heard about tinting issues and black dots and so forth with earlier builds - would that be a worry now?
A few things about my D3 that disappoint - Lack of 4G, waiting for websites to load and such is almost a pain especially when I need something fast. I will be seeing plenty of 4G areas soon in my career (USAF) and I am grandfathered into the UNLIMITED data plan that I plan to switch the phone to on my primary line.
2. - How is the 4G working on the RAZR? I anticipate getting the MAXX, so battery life wont be an issue. My condolences go to those who jumped with the OG RAZR and got less than they expected in this sense.
Another big change for me would be jumping from the physical keyboard to the touch screen. I'm beginning to feel 'claustrophobic' with only a 4" screen on the D3 and kind of want a bigger screen.
3. - Can anyone provide their opinions about the on-screen typing? Larger screen size? Does it work well? I would hope auto correct would make it a bit easier to speed through texting and other typing scenarios?
Working with the D3 and only 512MB of memory, even with the dual-core 1 GHz processor I still experienced some lag between homescreens with widgets, the app drawer, etc. This sometimes interfered with my OCD a bit and I would expect butter-smooth performance with this kind of hardware.
4. - With the droid RAZR, how does the performance compare for any of you? Any lag with stock-live wallpaper? Motoblur? The stock phone in the VZW store seemed very smooth and up-to-par. I would like your opinions on this though.
So aside from those questions, anything else anyone would like to offer? Comparisons to other products? Stories of switching from the Nexus or Rezound to the RAZR? I know there are reviews already written that are out there, but those are usually one-person reviews. All of you here have your opinions, and I'd like you to share them - good or bad, the perks and the setbacks.
Thanks a bunch in advanced! I know this OP is long and detailed, but I'm sure with responses this thread could be helpful to more than just me.
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Og razr owner here.
1- I have not ever had an issue with the screen. It's a beautiful screen. Even side by side with the rezound and nexus you can't notice a major difference. I also believe that the screen issues were limited to the first batches of razrs.
2- The larger screen is great. You will get used to the on screen keyboard. If you don't like the stock keyboard there are countless different keyboard apps in the market.
3- 4g is amazing. No other word describes it. I average around 20-25mbps down and have gotten as high as 44 down.
4- The phone is very fast even in stock form. Even the stock browser is very snappy. Of course i don't use the stock browser anymore i prefer Dolphin, but you may prefer a different browser.
The jump from 512mb of RAM to 1gig will put a smile on your face. Live wallpapers and widgets flow seemlessly with no lag.
I returned a nexus for the Razr I have now, so that should tell you how i feel about the comparsion between those devices. My brother had a rezound, but also now owns a razr.
The razr is the best device I have ever owned.
If you spring for the Razr Maxx you will be getting all the goodness of the razr with twice the battery. I get great battery life out of my og razr, so the maxx should get amazing battery life.
You can't go wrong with either the og razr or the maxx. I think once you get one you won't want to put it down.
Also the expandable memory is great. I just ordered a class 6 32gig Sandisk SD card. I still had plenty of room on the 16gig it came with but i found a great deal on the class 6 32 gig card so I just went ahead and got it. Class 6 is more than capable enough for me.
Good luck with your choice!
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I have a RAZR Maxx, and it's pretty snappy. The screen is great, and I'm not concerned about the lack of 720P HD. The battery life is spectacular, though it's still a little early to get some finite numbers on how long it lasts as it really depends on if you're on wifi, 3G, or 4G along with your usage style. I'm in Saint Louis, which was one of the first round of 4G roll-out cities, and my 4G coverage is pretty wide. I had a Thunderbolt previously as it was the only 4G phone available at first, but this is night and day better as far as battery life. I mostly kept 4G shut off on my Thunderbolt, and on the RAZR I haven't messed with it. No reason to.
The only issues I have are the stock Android FB app seems slow to start/load. Maybe it's just me. I rooted it for the wifi tether, and although it's only been a couple of days, I'm very happy with my purchase.
Jim
Rooted Droid RAZR Maxx
Thanks for these reviews. I'm considering exchanging my Nexus for a Razr Maxx. Anyone bummed about the smaller screen on the Maxx (4.65 Gnex vs 4.3 razr)?
Does it make typing/swyping in portrait mode more difficult?
Anyone ported ICS to the Razr with full functionality and loving it?
I received my new Razr Maxx on Monday and while I'm not a user of your comparison models I would love to offer some feedback.
1. I really like this phone. It's light, thin, sturdy, very fast. The screen is bright an the colors are crisp.
2. I use swype as my input method but I've noticed that if you turn the phone on it's side the soft keyboard buttons are very large and should be ideal for normal touch typing.
3. I work in downtown Sacramento and live in a suburb. Downtown I'm getting five bar 4G consistently even when I'm in an interior conference room.
4. Downloaded the Speed Test application and I'm consistently getting 25M on the download and 10M on the upload.
5. Battery life seems to be really, really good. Phone arrived half charged and I didn't plug it in until at least 24 hours later after doing all my setup and app downloading.
However it does seem to take a long time to charge which is probably due to the bigger battery.
Hope this helps.
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Thanks for these reviews. I'm considering exchanging my Nexus for a Razr Maxx. Anyone bummed about the smaller screen on the Maxx (4.65 Gnex vs 4.3 razr)?
Does it make typing/swyping in portrait mode more difficult?
Anyone ported ICS to the Razr with full functionality and loving it?
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We have Dhacker29 and Hashcode working on it. There is alpha and it is working pretty good for alpha stage. Can find the work at droidrzr.com
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Very cool, thanks. Looks like i can easily root the maxx and use wifi tether and titanium backup. Biggest advantages of rooting, imho.
What are the real downsides to a locked bootloader? Inable to flash kernels? Radios? Whats the downside?
rfeagan said:
Thanks for these reviews. I'm considering exchanging my Nexus for a Razr Maxx. Anyone bummed about the smaller screen on the Maxx (4.65 Gnex vs 4.3 razr)?
Does it make typing/swyping in portrait mode more difficult?
Anyone ported ICS to the Razr with full functionality and loving it?
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I exchanged my Gnex and now own a RMaxx,,,, and glad I did. You give up a little of width in the functional screen real estate (both are 4.3), but the Maxx Super AMOLED is no slouch (its really nice).
The superstar is the battery, and the overall build quality. The Maxx feels 1000 times more polished and solid.
There is some great custom ROM development going on at droidrzr.com. I rooted my device and had a droidth3ory rom within an hour of getting home.
Super cool! Now be honest... does your rooted Maxx feel faster or slower than your old Gnex?
My hypothesis: I sometimes wonder if the Gnex animations/transitions lag a little bit bc the device is pushing so many pixels.
My last device was a Sprint Galaxy S2 Epic Touch, super smooth UI/transitions, low pixel density...
Edit: Can anyone confirm whether GPS on the Razr will lock on when in Airplane mode? I have Backcountry Navigator app that requires this functionality.
THANKS ALL!
rfeagan said:
Super cool! Now be honest... does your rooted Maxx feel faster or slower than your old Gnex?
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I was running Th30ry's rom on the Gnex and now on the Maxx. The Maxx is blazing fast. I have it am running GoLauncher and GoLocker with ICS theme.