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I have the webtop hack on mine so I don't have the update yet, and with no root ability yet I'm not having it. So I'm asking is there a considerable plus to having the update done? I don't have a car dock so don't care about that, battery life will never be improved, I can push the power button myself when charging, and the finger print thing....well that does drive me a little crazy. So should I take off the hack for the update and wait for root.... or just wait, because its not that great?
yep, first thing is battery is lasting long..28 hours moderate use, still 30%
fingerprint scanner works great..
free memory increased by 200 megs..
but you will lose root...
I haven't noticed any difference whatsoever.
Battery life is the same for me and the fingerprint sensor is about the same.
Free memory? You mean storage space? Definitely not RAM.
I don't know if overall stability has really improved or not. 5 minutes ago my browser crashed for no apparent reason.
After 1 day it seems like this update is a letdown. Perhaps dock users are benefitting from it. The sooner they fully release this thing the sooner they get working on an update thats actually worth a damn.
Yesterday I used mine off charger for about 12 hours and was still at 60% battery. I was shocked, but not worth the trade off for root. I'm waiting for Motorola to send me a survey on it so I can give them a piece of my mind about locking the phone down even more. I sell these things, and customers that are interested in the Atrix are only interested in it's specs for mostly a hacking standpoint. People who want simplicity get the iPhone, that's all there is to it. Blocking Psnuter is rather lame in my book. I'll be flashing back to stock then back to gingerblur tonight. The update also killed my lock screen, but I think that's because I used Titanium Backup to restore my data. Now I only have pattern unlock, and I can use any pattern to unlock. I can also just press any of the circles and it unlocks. Kindof a neat trick, but not worth root loss.
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I haven't noticed any difference whatsoever.
Battery life is the same for me and the fingerprint sensor is about the same.
Free memory? You mean storage space? Definitely not RAM.
I don't know if overall stability has really improved or not. 5 minutes ago my browser crashed for no apparent reason.
After 1 day it seems like this update is a letdown. Perhaps dock users are benefitting from it. The sooner they fully release this thing the sooner they get working on an update thats actually worth a damn.
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I meant RAM, i see now 200megs free..before it used to be 250 meg free, now its 450 free
Well, I guess I'm sitting tight and not restoring for the update then.
the update is good (fingerprint better, battery life better, wifi on simunlocked device still doesnt work tho), but loosing root isnt acceptable for me at all, so i restored back to the retail sbf.
crnkoj said:
the update is good (fingerprint better, battery life better, wifi on simunlocked device still doesnt work tho), but loosing root isnt acceptable for me at all, so i restored back to the retail sbf.
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Hold up, you mean if the device is sim unlocked you can't use wifi ?
I am not sold on the update
I updated and lost root and the webtop mod. (I knew this going in)
Battery is about the same.
Fingerprint sensor is maybe a little bit better.
Touch screens and input seems quicker.
But I have had some issues:
-Wifi takes longer to lock
-On Pandora sometimes I want the screen on when I am in the car and the screen shuts down anyway.
-For the first time Endomondo had problems getting a satellite lock after the update
And the nag screen about the update bugged me as did the Motorola questionaire about rooting and mods..
I am going to wait and see if the gurus get root. If not it is back to retail sbf and restore apps and data from Titanium...
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Hold up, you mean if the device is sim unlocked you can't use wifi ?
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dude, just read this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=980047
I also received the update. To me it seems the fingerprint swipe is more reliable. The battery life is greatly improved.
I do have some issues with wifi disconnecting and reconnecting - but I think that is my router that is recycling, because my wife's iphone has the same issues, and at the same time.
welk I am happy the touchscreen works great now. Battery life I don't know I game while streaming radio. But touch screen is only thing I really cared about. More than root. Untill we can get Overclock I don't need root that badly. Cache mate, setcpu, TiBu, root explorer, and a couple more. All those for a working touch screen and a little faster unlock (slide)... don't use the finger scanner, but when I did factory out of the box it worked everytime the first time. Maybe.... "your not holding it the right way" Lolololol.
Geez, I might as well have just put a poll, because it sounds like its hit or miss down the line. I'm still staying rooted though. At least until the hsupa update comes.
updated yday and flashed back few min ago, for me there was no change at all. love webtop hack to much
Coming from the DX, the benefits of rooting (even with it locked down) were WIFI tethering, screenshots, and overall just being able to customize the phone more with themes, colors, etc.
From what I can tell, the Wifi tethering app just can't hang with the native MobileHotSpot tethering option provided by the phone, in which case, it becomes less of a benefit.
I can see why people don't like Sense but it doesn't bother me one bit so that really isn't a factor. Just wondering what other features (or lack thereof) are pushing people one way or the other.
well i supposed it's up to you if you like to tinker or not. so far i am using the das bamf rom and really like it. for one, all the vzw bloat is gone, and there are a number of nice little features such as the battery charging icon, 5 icon wide app drawer, transparent app drawer/notifications.
root enables programs such as set cpu to control the cpu speed. for instance, i have the cpu slow way down when the screen is off saving battery.
if you are happy with your phone the way it is, leave it. if you like to play around, try new things, and have a better phone than the manufacturer came out with, root it. there is practically no danger and you can also go back to stock.
I just rooted because I hate all the bull**** bloatware. Also like to customize
The ability to remove the Verizon software off the phone (VVM, VZ Navigation, VZW Backup, etc) and the ability to change the DPI to something more usable (i.e., less big).
Those are my reasons...
Titanium Backup... Removal of bloatware... Those two things, even if you plan on keeping stock rom, is enough reason to root, in my opinion.
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Removal of trailware games I will never play. and get rid of CityID and verizon apps, that is my biggest complaint
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Removal of trailware games I will never play. and get rid of CityID and verizon apps, that is my biggest complaint
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Are you referring to having to scroll through them when in the apps folder or actually feeling a performance difference by removing them? If it's scrolling past them, that doesn't much bother me..
Now that the kernel source is out, I'll definitely be rooting. Battery life is a top priority so undervolting is a big factor for me if nothing else.
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Are you referring to having to scroll through them when in the apps folder or actually feeling a performance difference by removing them? If it's scrolling past them, that doesn't much bother me..
Now that the kernel source is out, I'll definitely be rooting. Battery life is a top priority so undervolting is a big factor for me if nothing else.
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who needs vz backup assistant when google does it for free? i guess some people can live with trialware taking up useless space but cityid is just awful. I use to get nag screens on my incredible. There is an option to remove it if you cancel the trail peroid, but it is still there taking up memory
My reasons that I rooted:
1. Get rid of bloatware
2. Get rid of bloatware
3. Customization options
4. *FULL* backups of my phone (Titanium Backup)
5. Overclocking, Underclocking, Overvolting and Undervolting
The Kernel was just released by HTC today, so we will be getting some really nice mods for the T-Bolt soon. Some of the things I want:
1. When my phone is plugged into a charger, I want it overvolted and overclocked for FULL performance (1.6ghz stable please )
2. When my phone is on battery, I want it back to 1ghz, but lets unvervolt it to get better battery.
3. When my phone's screen is locked lets underclock it down to 250mhz, seriously undervolt it, and get some real juice out of it.
4. When my phone's screen is locked, auto disable 4g, gps and wifi for even more battery savings.
Basically I want a phone that screams when it is supposed to scream, and tidy on the battery when it is supposed to be.
For me its about bloatware and speed. Plus (correct me if im wrong) the hotspot tethering is only free for a period of time, so eventually youll want that root for the tether.
I always equate it to if you buy a pc versus building it. Most people if they buy it the first thing they do is delete all the crap for overall performance.
Even if you root only to get rid of the bloatware your going to see an increase in battery life (especially from crappy blockbuster) and load speeds.
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For me its about bloatware and speed. Plus (correct me if im wrong) the hotspot tethering is only free for a period of time, so eventually youll want that root for the tether.
I always equate it to if you buy a pc versus building it. Most people if they buy it the first thing they do is delete all the crap for overall performance.
Even if you root only to get rid of the bloatware your going to see an increase in battery life (especially from crappy blockbuster) and load speeds.
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also read reports of blockbuster running in the background constantly updating and draining the battery unless you physically go in there and turn it off...i didnt bother checking that out, i promptly removed it for good
For me it was all about the customization. Everything I own I tweak to make it just to my like so the same goes for my phone, so rooting was just necessary. Also a lot of the custom ROMS are designed to help improve battery life, and since the battery life of the TB isn't very stellar to begin with, it is nice to be able to increase it by flashing the correct ROM. I really don't see a situation where you wouldn't want to root it.
My moto is when in doubt... Root.
It just makes it better
Had my Thunderbolt since day one. It's my first smartphone. I want to root it and in the process of doing so. I've read that it will wipe my phone. Just curious. Does that include my SD card as well? and how would i go about flashing my stock ROM just in case i need to take it in for warranty purposes?
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Had my Thunderbolt since day one. It's my first smartphone. I want to root it and in the process of doing so. I've read that it will wipe my phone. Just curious. Does that include my SD card as well? and how would i go about flashing my stock ROM just in case i need to take it in for warranty purposes?
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It wont wipe your sd card unless you select it to in clockwork recovery.
to get back to out of the box with s-on and original rom. download this ruu and plug your phone in. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=975888
magneticzero said:
It wont wipe your sd card unless you select it to in clockwork recovery.
to get back to out of the box with s-on and original rom. download this ruu and plug your phone in. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=975888
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Awesome Thanks
DNak206 said:
Coming from the DX, the benefits of rooting (even with it locked down) were WIFI tethering, screenshots, and overall just being able to customize the phone more with themes, colors, etc.
From what I can tell, the Wifi tethering app just can't hang with the native MobileHotSpot tethering option provided by the phone, in which case, it becomes less of a benefit.
I can see why people don't like Sense but it doesn't bother me one bit so that really isn't a factor. Just wondering what other features (or lack thereof) are pushing people one way or the other.
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Coming from the DX you were in a walled garden (not as bad as another walled garden, but walled none the less). While I do like Sense, there are also Cyanogen, Liquid Metal, and MIUI as examples of rom styles that will completely transform your phone.
MIUI menus for example are by far the best designed that I have seen. And you might reply who cares about menus, but once you have messed with it, it makes a world of difference.
Cyanogen adds a crap ton of function then tends to focus on stability. This lead to (IMHO) the smoothest most stable rom on the Droid Inc.
Liquid Metal is just way outside the box. I was not fond of it (except the kick ass lock screen), but I bet someone here who did fancy it could speak for its merits.
The real question is, why the hell wouldn't you root
dyezak said:
My reasons that I rooted:
1. Get rid of bloatware
2. Get rid of bloatware
3. Customization options
4. *FULL* backups of my phone (Titanium Backup)
5. Overclocking, Underclocking, Overvolting and Undervolting
The Kernel was just released by HTC today, so we will be getting some really nice mods for the T-Bolt soon. Some of the things I want:
1. When my phone is plugged into a charger, I want it overvolted and overclocked for FULL performance (1.6ghz stable please )
2. When my phone is on battery, I want it back to 1ghz, but lets unvervolt it to get better battery.
3. When my phone's screen is locked lets underclock it down to 250mhz, seriously undervolt it, and get some real juice out of it.
4. When my phone's screen is locked, auto disable 4g, gps and wifi for even more battery savings.
Basically I want a phone that screams when it is supposed to scream, and tidy on the battery when it is supposed to be.
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I second all that. LOL
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I second all that. LOL
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I will most likely root, I guess I have just been pretty impressed with this phone stock, wasn't sure I needed it. Take into consideration more customization, tethering and increased battery life, again, I think it's a no-brainer.
Are you guys seeing an increase in speed and battery life now that you've rooted? I know killing bloatware also kills running services which should in theory help, but isn't undervolting the best way to maximize juice?
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I will most likely root, I guess I have just been pretty impressed with this phone stock, wasn't sure I needed it.
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This is why I still haven't....
Coming from a turtle phone, this is very easy to get used to as-is..
So my friend has a Thunderbolt and she complains about it freezing up when doing text messaging. She has to hit the power button and then it will come back to life. Sometimes she even has to wait a few minutes for it to come back. She has tried to restart it and even takes the battery out. She has also even having troubles with the GPS not working or taking forever to lock. Everytrail will mess up and not get her entire run, etc. I even noticed that my TouchPro2 running android will go from google maps to google navigation faster than her Tbolt. Is this poor performance common for users with the stock rom and the update?
I have no problem messing around with phones and putting custom roms, etc, etc on my phone. I would help her root her phone if its worth rooting. She was concerned it would void warranty, but I saw the thread to restore to stock. Is there anyway for them to tell you were rooted if she has a warranty issue and I return it to stock? She is obviously wanting something that will work better and faster than stock. What would be the best setup for a close to stock look and feel, but more stable and easy to use? Does a rom like that even exist? Help me out here fella's as I told her to get the Tbolt instead of another crackberry and now she is less than happy because her Tbolt sucks stock. Thanks
If i was her i would call and get a replacement and see if that helps b4 messing with the phone. A phone should work properly out of the box.
Wont they just send her a replacement that is a refurb?
They will definitely give her a refurbished no matter how much you complain.
For the gps, try download an app called GPS Status and Toolbox. It's free from the market. Turn GPS on, open up the app, and hit the menu button. Then choose Tools, and choose Manage A-GPS State. Choose reset and see if that helps the GPS lock on faster.
As for the freezing, I'm not sure why its doing that. It could be a rouge app that's hogging the CPU. Tell her to go through and uninstall any apps she doesn't use. Worst case scenario, back up everything she needs, and factory reset the phone. Is a pain, by it might be worth a try.
Rooting does void the warranty. You can return back to stock and they would never know. However, because of this, many people are bricking their phones because they don't know what they are doing and then claim warranty on them. Because of this, the OEMs are starting to lock down the bootloaders to prevent this, and carriers and pressuring them to do so as well.
I, personally, think the tbolt runs faster and has the best battery life stock than with any Rom kernel combo I have tried.
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I'd rather have a functional refurb than a broken new phone. That's just me.
I had never done anything close to rooting a phone before. I spent 2 days reading about it. I downloaded all the programs and files that are needed to root the phone. Finally decided to do it....knowing full well that I could brick the phone and have to pay retail for a new one. It did take me a long time just cause I wanted to be very thorough with the process and make sure I did everything right. If I had to do it again it would probably take a half hour. It was easier than I thought it would be. The combo I'm using now is Bamf 1.6.3 remix and Imoseyons lean kernel on normal mode. The battery life is amazing. I do have a slight problem that will hopefully get fixed soon but after unplugging my phone at 730 am and having moderate usage at work my battery is at 82% at 5 pm.
ercDROID said:
I had never done anything close to rooting a phone before. I spent 2 days reading about it. I downloaded all the programs and files that are needed to root the phone. Finally decided to do it....knowing full well that I could brick the phone and have to pay retail for a new one. It did take me a long time just cause I wanted to be very thorough with the process and make sure I did everything right. If I had to do it again it would probably take a half hour. It was easier than I thought it would be. The combo I'm using now is Bamf 1.6.3 remix and Imoseyons lean kernel on normal mode. The battery life is amazing. I do have a slight problem that will hopefully get fixed soon but after unplugging my phone at 730 am and having moderate usage at work my battery is at 82% at 5 pm.
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The battery percentage isn't always accurate. Try using green power. It's a free app in the market. It an shut your data off when you shut the screen of, and turn it on when you turn the screen back on. You can also set it to turn the data on and let the phone sync. I have none set to turn the data on for 1 minute every two hours to let it sync.
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I am not worried about successfully rooting the phone. I am sure I can handle that. I am more worried about the phone working worse than it is now. That is why I was asking about which roms are nice and stable.
She is running SMS backup? Is there a better program that archives texts to gmail easily that she could try?
Could there really be a hardware issue? Seems odd.
ThrottleAbuse said:
I am not worried about successfully rooting the phone. I am sure I can handle that. I am more worried about the phone working worse than it is now. That is why I was asking about which roms are nice and stable.
She is running SMS backup? Is there a better program that archives texts to gmail easily that she could try?
Could there really be a hardware issue? Seems odd.
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Plain Jane is a great ROM. its pretty much stock only deodexed and rooted.
I'm currently running das BAMF 2.0 and its very stable and runs great.
As far as sms backup, I never back up any of my text when I flash new ROMs so I couldn't help you there.
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ThrottleAbuse said:
I am not worried about successfully rooting the phone. I am sure I can handle that. I am more worried about the phone working worse than it is now. That is why I was asking about which roms are nice and stable.
She is running SMS backup? Is there a better program that archives texts to gmail easily that she could try?
Could there really be a hardware issue? Seems odd.
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SMS backup works fine. I don't like the HTC messaging app, mine freezes up too. Mostly when you have a ton of messages in a particular thread. Tell her to try handcent. That cleared up my messaging woes. If that doesn't do it I would tell her to go back to the store and have them replace the phone. Refurb or not it's better to have a phone that works. As far as gps that's a well known problem with this phone. I've resigned myself to waiting 90 seconds to get a fix which in reality isn't that bad. The garmin in my car takes at least that long.
Didnt realize there was a rom called plain jane. Sorry but what is deodexed?
I know she doesnt delete her texts so long threads may be an issue. I will have her look at handcent.
The length to lock isnt the biggest issue its the freezing and her missing stuff on everytrail.
I've been debating whether or not to upgrade my firmware to the latest and I keep going back and forth.
Can we discuss the pros/cons of doing so?
All I really know is that NOT having the new firmware limits support for most ROMS and can cause some issues. I have also heard its hard (impossible?) to go back to the old one if it was necessary to do so?
Thanks!
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I've been debating whether or not to upgrade my firmware to the latest and I keep going back and forth.
Can we discuss the pros/cons of doing so?
All I really know is that NOT having the new firmware limits support for most ROMS and can cause some issues. I have also heard its hard (impossible?) to go back to the old one if it was necessary to do so?
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Pros:
ICS is awesome!
Smoother, faster, etc
Battery seems to charge sightly faster
Cons:
Bad battery life (horrible, worse than GB)
CPU overheats (sometimes to 110 degrees!)
Worse reception
Can't downgrade to old firmware till we get S-OFF
In other words, don't upgrade!
I personally have stayed off the firmware and I'm going to wait until ROMs are based off the official OTA or we get S-OFF.
There's a firmware patch anyway that lets you run recent ROMs on the old firmware, so that's a plus.
I've been running ICS ROMs for months with no issues and it's actual ICS.
Heard too many issues coming off the leak anyway.
It seems like the new firmware has the CPU running full tilt where the old firmware did a better job of governing. So the phone gets hot quick(for me screen on only) but stop using it and it cools off fast as well.
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It seems like the new firmware has the CPU running full tilt where the old firmware did a better job of governing. So the phone gets hot quick(for me screen on only) but stop using it and it cools off fast as well.
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I thought the CPU issues were with the kernel, not the firmware?
For me, the news has all been good except for one thing re: new firmware...
Cell Reception.
I can't keep a call connected unless I go outside. Data is great, and overall signal quality is good... until I get a phone call. Then I immediately lose at least 2 bars! How dumb is that!?!?
I can't wait to get S-Off so I can flash the old radio back on. I'm hoping that fixes it.
Pro : no more Blue Flicker
Cons : Reboot like a zillion time a day WTF ??? Bur I think it's just me
Glad I posted this before just going for it. Seems like its not worth it at this point in time. S-off is a long was away, right? I'll just stick it out with the old one.
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Glad I posted this before just going for it. Seems like its not worth it at this point in time. S-off is a long was away, right? I'll just stick it out with the old one.
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It would seem we're not as far off from it as we once were
but you're a lot better off without the new firmware IMO.
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I thought the CPU issues were with the kernel, not the firmware?
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You definitely got me on that one. I have no clue who the culprit is but it has only been like this since the ICS leak RUU.
I have better battery life.
GrayTheWolf said:
I have better battery life.
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GrayTheWolf said:
I have better battery life.
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I do too, but I think it's more due to the Devs like Nils and lllboredlll tweaking their ROMS for max battery conservation than the new firmware.
I've just solved my rebooting Issue by doing this
1. Reboot into recovery -> Format all to EXT3 and wipe everything
2. Lock Bootloader
3. Flash the leak -> let it run till the end and will automatically reboot back into bootloader.
4. You'll notice the "TAMPERED" on top of the screen has been gone.
5. Flash the leak the 2nd Time and you'll be good.
I've been on it for 3 days without a reboot or slow down or heating issue. Now, I gotta say this leak is great in term of stability, battery life, signal (in Seattle,WA) and performance compared to Gingerbreak.
First, here's a poll on battery life. It seems most people got better or the same battery life with the update.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23874951
I upgrade to the new firmware and at first thought I was getting horrible battery life, then it got better about 8 hours with 2 hours screen on time.
Then, I decided to go back down to the old firmware and radio because Andy told me he was getting better battery life on it. I went back down, a and honestly--I haven't noticed a real big difference in battery life with screen on. Both firmwares get about 2 hours on screen time. You can get awesome battery life on either ROM If you leave screen off, but that kind of defeats the whole purpose of using the phone. The new firmware gets better battery life when the screen is off, I think.
The radios are hit or miss, I think. The 4g reception is always different day to day in my daily commutes. Sometimes I'll get a constant 4g signal. Other days it'll be spotty, while some days it just stay on 3g and then I have to put it in airplane mode to get 4g again. And then 5 minutes later it goes back to 3g. I haven't really noticed much of a difference in call quality, but don't really pay attention to that.
I may go back to the new RUU, honestly.
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Sorry for the silly question but how do I see what firmware version I'm on?
Cares said:
Sorry for the silly question but how do I see what firmware version I'm on?
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At home screen.
Menu button> settings> scroll all the way down to about phone> software version> more button
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Is it the build number?
3.11.605.22?
I guess what confused me was something in this thread led me to believe that if you used the "patch" to install from GB, you would still be on the old firmware but running ICS. I'm currently on ClearnROM ICS Pro (ICS obviously)
The very first thing I did upon getting S-OFF was to get off that darned leaked firmware.
I sugesst waiting, personally.
there's so much more negatives than positive, at least was for me.
I run ICS on GB firmware and runs great. Sense 4, does as well. the patch works very well.
also before returning to GB frimware, I was running the leaked for a while and I personally didn't notice the new firmware to be much if any smoother.
all it did was overheat and destroy my batt life.
lesson learned for me.
no more messing around until we have an option to return to normal.
I am just lucky that I didn't brick my rez in the beta s-off(which the method works great BTW!, I hope to see it released ASAP!!) and was able to return to stock firmware, and enjoy my phone again.
andybones said:
The very first thing I did upon getting S-OFF was to get off that darned leaked firmware.
I sugesst waiting, personally.
there's so much more negatives than positive, at least was for me.
I run ICS on GB firmware and runs great. Sense 4, does as well. the patch works very well.
also before returning to GB frimware, I was running the leaked for a while and I personally didn't notice the new firmware to be much if any smoother.
all it did was overheat and destroy my batt life.
lesson learned for me.
no more messing around until we have an option to return to normal.
I am just lucky that I didn't brick my rez in the beta s-off(which the method works great BTW!, I hope to see it released ASAP!!) and was able to return to stock firmware, and enjoy my phone again.
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Just so we all know, what all did it take for you to roll back to the GB firmware when you had S-Off?
So, after 8 months of use, my M8 is finally in a situation where I'm kind of sick of it running so poorly. In the past I've always had these issues over time, but I always contributed it mainly to running custom ROM's. Well, when I got my M8, it ran so well I decided to leave it stock. Well it's finally starting to hit a wall and it's more of a frustration than a joy to use. Swype is borderline impossible to use since it lags so bad, freezes are infrequent but occur, etc etc.
So my question is, what are the most likely contributors? Apps that run in the background? Too many apps? Too much space used? I can't think of much else, since, like I said, it's still fully stock. Or is this just what I have to expect from a phone?
Do you clear the cache in your app settings. If you game a lot than I would definitely start with the game apps first.
Cachemate for root users
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...chemate&pcampaignid=APPU__rOUVPowg5TJBNTAgKAD
Android 5.0.1 is pretty lag free in my opinion
cgibsong002 said:
So, after 8 months of use, my M8 is finally in a situation where I'm kind of sick of it running so poorly. In the past I've always had these issues over time, but I always contributed it mainly to running custom ROM's. Well, when I got my M8, it ran so well I decided to leave it stock. Well it's finally starting to hit a wall and it's more of a frustration than a joy to use. Swype is borderline impossible to use since it lags so bad, freezes are infrequent but occur, etc etc.
So my question is, what are the most likely contributors? Apps that run in the background? Too many apps? Too much space used? I can't think of much else, since, like I said, it's still fully stock. Or is this just what I have to expect from a phone?
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I kept my phone stock for quite some time because I felt I didn't need to change anything, until last week because I was tired of radio issues. Bottom line, ATT sucks at getting updates out, so if your running stock, your firmware is like three updates back. I see a massive improvements in speed and battery with 3.28.1540.5. If you know how, I would S-OFF and upgrade firmware to that and flash the debloated custom stock Rom that comes with root and SU. There are straight forward instructions in the att m8 development thread.
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I kept my phone stock for quite some time because I felt I didn't need to change anything, until last week because I was tired of radio issues. Bottom line, ATT sucks at getting updates out, so if your running stock, your firmware is like three updates back. I see a massive improvements in speed and battery with 3.28.1540.5. If you know how, I would S-OFF and upgrade firmware to that and flash the debloated custom stock Rom that comes with root and SU. There are straight forward instructions in the att m8 development thread.
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I might look into this. What I don't get though.. I can understand if new updates are quicker. That makes sense. What doesn't, is how ridiculously poor my phone runs compared to the first few months I had it. It's been like this for every phone I've had. I don't game, I don't have all that many apps. In my running app list, the only self installed things there are Facebook and Swype. I have plenty of extra storage internal and on my SD. So what is it that causes such poor performance over time? I'll definitely have to check out the newer roms and finally s-off.. but I've done plenty of custom roms before with other phones and the same thing always happens, things run fine for a bit and then slowly go to crap.
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cgibsong002 said:
I might look into this. What I don't get though.. I can understand if new updates are quicker. That makes sense. What doesn't, is how ridiculously poor my phone runs compared to the first few months I had it. It's been like this for every phone I've had. I don't game, I don't have all that many apps. In my running app list, the only self installed things there are Facebook and Swype. I have plenty of extra storage internal and on my SD. So what is it that causes such poor performance over time? I'll definitely have to check out the newer roms and finally s-off.. but I've done plenty of custom roms before with other phones and the same thing always happens, things run fine for a bit and then slowly go to crap.
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Its hard to say what is causing your issue, and aside from saying Swype is lagging (might be an issue with that app itself) and the phone "doesn't run so great anymore" you really haven't provided any specifics of what the problem is. You also haven't indicated if you tried to clear cached as jball suggested, and if so, if it helped at all.
Might be some runaway (poorly coded) AT&T bloat apps. But in general, apps running in the background will not slow the system down much. There are various apps to track battery and memory usage, so you might try one of those, to determine if any particular apps are the culprit.
I can't say I've seen any lag on my M8, but I switch ROMs fairly occasionally, and keep it updated to current Android builds (thanks to s-off). Clearing up your data partition alone might help (but might now, on the other hand) so you might also consider backing up any personal data and doing a factory reset. Wiping the slate clean might solve your issue.
Ok.. well a lot info there but one step at a time. I realized my phone is Sunday unusable with Wi-Fi turned on.. which is quite interesting and I'm pretty lost on this one. With Wi-Fi on, it's like my entire phone stops, not just the actual internet speeds. Apps like Facebook take ten seconds just to load, and then the actual content takes sometimes 15 seconds to load or maybe not even at all. Also, keep in mind, my actual internet speeds are fine, and even test perfectly fine on my phone.
As soon as I turn off Wi-Fi, it seems everything on my phone I'd dramatically quicker and everything loads near immediate. I've tried restarting my phone, cycling airplane mode, not really sure what else to do.
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cgibsong002 said:
Ok.. well a lot info there but one step at a time. I realized my phone is Sunday unusable with Wi-Fi turned on.. which is quite interesting and I'm pretty lost on this one. With Wi-Fi on, it's like my entire phone stops, not just the actual internet speeds. Apps like Facebook take ten seconds just to load, and then the actual content takes sometimes 15 seconds to load or maybe not even at all. Also, keep in mind, my actual internet speeds are fine, and even test perfectly fine on my phone.
As soon as I turn off Wi-Fi, it seems everything on my phone I'd dramatically quicker and everything loads near immediate. I've tried restarting my phone, cycling airplane mode, not really sure what else to do.
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Does it happen anywhere you use WiFi? If so maybe try fully wiping and flashing the firmware, or just bust out the ruu to make it easier, can't hurt to try it should help tho
Did you even try to wipe cache, as has been suggested twice previously?
Otherwise, if no major system changes, and the phone has just been running worse and worse, a factory reset may help; as I would have to think it may be 3rd party apps that are to blame. Backup your personal data, factory reset, and just start to install a minimum of apps, and see how it runs.
If still no improvement, the above comment to try to RUU is not a bad idea, either. RUU provides a fully "blank slate" and may solve your issue.