Honestly...rooting and flashing seems like - Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

...a pain in the ass for the Fascinate. The gf has one of these phones, and after seeing what I've done with my G2, she wants me to root and flash a nice rom.
Problem 1 (not so small): we both use macs at home.
Problem 2 (huge): after reading through the development forum - it doesn't look that easy to root, nor flash a decent rom on the Fascinate!
not only do some roms require you to have a specific kernel flashed to use them. Some roms require that you don't use the latest CWM. Also, none of roms seem to be using Gingerbread AOSP completely. They seem to be pieced together with Froyo.
Believe you me, I am not a dev in the slightest. Therefore, I am looking for a safe way to root and flash a decent rom to her phone. If there isn't, then I'll just let her run stock.
Is this easier than I'm seeing it?

enserio said:
...a pain in the ass for the Fascinate. The gf has one of these phones, and after seeing what I've done with my G2, she wants me to root and flash a nice rom.
Problem 1 (not so small): we both use macs at home.
Problem 2 (huge): after reading through the development forum - it doesn't look that easy to root, nor flash a decent rom on the Fascinate!
not only do some roms require you to have a specific kernel flashed to use them. Some roms require that you don't use the latest CWM. Also, none of roms seem to be using Gingerbread AOSP completely. They seem to be pieced together with Froyo.
Believe you me, I am not a dev in the slightest. Therefore, I am looking for a safe way to root and flash a decent rom to her phone. If there isn't, then I'll just let her run stock.
Is this easier than I'm seeing it?
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Honestly, it is not that difficult. Just takes some getting used to. Obviously you have done a bit of reading, I know it seems daunting, but I promise, once you have it down it is nothing. The kernels...Most ROMS are kernel switchable, within reason. MOST of our ROMS require the RED CWM, which honestly is not a big deal, the orange is just too glitchy. And as far as the ROM's being pieced together with Froyo...Well, I am no dev either, but yes, I believe most of the ROMS are a Frankenstein of sorts, but we don't even have a Froyo source to work with yet. So the dev's, in my opinion, have done an AMAZING job. In terms of flashing on a Mac, I am not sure if Odin works on a Mac, Heimdall does though I believe. Rooting is extremely simple, it is only the flashing the right CWM, modem, etc. that may confuse you. Honestly, if you just keep reading the right things, you'll see it is pretty simple. I recommend Adrynalyne's Super Clean 2.9, and Big Loof's Steel Blue theme, with the EB16 kernel (Also Adrynalyne's).

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=948722
This thread has a good walkthrough, I'd follow it through Post #5... using Superclean. It's an incredibly performing full Froyo rom. Remember that Froyo is not officially out on this phone, she's running Eclair right now. Gingerbread is a ways off (though punk kaos is making great progress).

Before EB01, rooting for me was just clicking a single button.
I never had to root again since flashing EB01. For flashing itself, its just download, reboot to recovery, and flash. Not sure how its a pain in the as as it doesnt even take a minute or so.
I did end up installing 3.XX CWM from ROM manager, but I only reboot into orange CWM if i reboot using ROM manager. If I dont, I end up rebooting to red CWM.

Thanks for the responses. Put a few things in perspective. I totally forgot that she is still running Eclair and Froyo isn't officially out for these phones. My mistake, and now that makes complete sense to me why most of the roms are froyo based or patched. Another thing that made me hesitant is that Odin doesn't run on mac, and I would have anything to save the phone (unless I use one of the pcs at work) if something goes awry. I will read up on Heimdall and see if I can use that.
My apologies if I sounded bothered or uptight about the situation, thanks for the well-mannered responses to my mini-rant. Of to read up a bit more, starting with the link postd and Heimdall.

Found a quick guide for rooting the Fascinate with a Mac. Now my issue is...switching to EB01 without Odin because SuperClean needs it, correct?

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Why do people use clockwork

I am just wondering why people use Clockwork. Every set of directions I have found to load custom roms involve Amon's. I am just curious as to why people would use Clockwork and if there is any advantage to it. Everything that I have found about people bricking their phones always involve someone using Clockwork so it doesn't seem to me that it would be a good idea to use it.
It's kinda "easier" but like you said all instructions pretty much use Amon's. Plus clockwork has caused tons of problems with Eris's so it really shouldn't be used. Anyway there's no real answer to this question, people just choose it.
I used it for a bit cause it was put on my phone when I flashed a 2.1 rom a few months ago. I wanst aware it was so dangerous. Flashed multiple roms with it, made nands, used it to upgrade SU... all was well for a few months, then while trying to flash a custom rom I started to realize it was causing my phone problems. I even flashed to an alt recovery (amons) using rom manager. That was the problem tho. I had amons but clockwork was still controlling everything and my phone (which had been running flawlessly for months) started to act up real bad. So I did alot of reading here on xda and learned clockwork can be mucho dangerous with the Eris. I went to the Eris Dev subforum and found a post on how to safely flash back to amons from clockwork. Did it, wiped the phone, put on a new froyo rom, and presto, no more issues. It may work fine for a little bit, even a few months, but silently in the background it screws with your Eris' brains lol. Glad I fixed that!
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[Q] So.. New to rooting and want to go with Nameless V4(when it releases soon)...

What is the best Kernel to use for this package, I was thinking TW Kernel 0327-2, which seems to be a fav of everyone in the thread. What are your thoughts on this and who is willing to walk me through my first root, to get this up and running? I am willing to Paypal some cash to anyone who successfully gets me up and running with my new phone(with a successful root). My Fascinate will be here in a few hours, new, so it will be fresh for a root. I'd rather not risk bricking it on its first day in existence.
Thanks in advance.
If you're going to be rooting I would first read up a little bit more on the whole subject of rooting and flashing. To make sure you're really committed to this.
I would start here and read this over a few times.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=948722
This is an EB01 Walk through (which still applies to EC10 and so forth)
One thing I have learned is that it is nearly impossible to brick your phone. You will soft brick it, many many many time because we are all curious and skip steps because we are excited.
The only thing to really remember is to NOT FLASH CWR (clock work recovery) 3.x.x. There are to many issues and incompatibilities at the moment with it. Unless the dev of your ROM says explicitly to use the new CWR, do not install or use it.
Go be brave and try it for yourself first, we are all here to help you get it back
Thanks, man. Will try. What Kernel are you using? Nameless V4 doesnt have one built in.
jt's 0408 (-25 undervolt) isn't a bad place to start. I'm on imnuts -50, which most phones should be able to handle (but not all).

[Q] CWM/nvflash bootloader questions

I'm trying to do my very first mod to my gtab. I've posted some questions already but have more before I proceed. I'm running bootloader 1.2-4349. Do need to set up nvflash before I attempt flashing to a different ROM? Is there a CWM that is specific for my bootloader? I've searched for these answers on the forums but was unable to find them. I found many posts about these subject but no one answred them directly. Any help is much appreciated.
NVFlash is never needed to flash a rom. It's a tool typically used to recover from a "softbrick." It CAN be used to flash a rom, but there are much safer alternatives. In fact, NVFlash is considered to BE the alternative to the regular methods.
starting with 4349, 1.2 bootlaoder, you can use the stock recovery to flash just about any of the 1.2 roms.
Which Rom are you interested in? The only roms that do not have a 1.2 equal are the gingerbread type roms. For instance, if you wanted Vegan 5.1.1, then Brilliant Corners is the 1.2 alternative. That's what I'm running. It's got to be one of, if not THEE, most complete rom available right now.
most 1.2 rom information is located at Slatedroid, not here.
I suggest that you check out the new website created by a user here (GoodIntentions). It's a "G-Tablet for Dummies" website. It contains a ton of useful information for beginners like yourself.
There IS a CWM that is specific to the 1.2 bootloader, but becuase the recovery on stock 1.2 has more options than the stock recovery used on 1.1 bootloader, it's not absolutely necessary. It's a good tool to have, but not necessary.
Your basic flashign technique for a 1.2 rom is as follows...download the .rar file the coincides with the rom you want. Unzip it to the root of your G-Tablet's memory. Restart the G-Tablet while holding down the volume up key. The tablet will boot into the stock recovery, and use the files you unzipped to flash the new rom. The rar file will contain to objects, a file called update.zip, and a recovery folder with a "command" file in it. What will happen when booting into recovery is that the tablet will first check to see if there is a recovery folder present. Think of this as a PC checking the floppy drive for a boot image before booting from the hard disk. If it sees the recovery folder, it will, by default, run the command file within it. The command file will unpack and install (flash) the rom image from the update.zip file.
With most of his roms, Roebeet has included the 1.2 CWM image in the package. It will not install automatically. There are threads available (on slatedroid) that contain instructions on how to activate the 1.2 CWM. There are various methods, if one doesn't work the first time.
If you are dead set on flashing a 1.1 rom, you'll first need to downgrade back to firmware 3588, which is a 1.1 bootloader firmware. Gojimi has posted instructions on XDA on how that is done.
So, your first step, is research the roms on XDA, Slatedroid, and other Android Tablet forums to find which one would best suit your needs.
As a beginner, I highly suggest that you steer away from the honeycomb roms, as they are still in alpha status and mainly used for testing and troubleshooting. In other words, they won't work perfectly, so to save yourself headaches, wait until your more comfortable with a more polished rom. ALL HC ROMS ARE 1.2 BOOTLOADER ROMS
The gingerbread roms are pretty stable, and from what I hear, pretty fast, but they lack a few things, namely full hardware acceleration. At the same time, if your heart is set on streaming netflix movies, then these might be the best choice for you. THE MOST POPULAR GB ROMS ARE 1.1 BOOTLOADER ROMS
The Froyo roms, while the most prehistoric are the most stable, most complete, and less "buggy" of all the roms. There are many varieties, based on various tablet user interfaces. FROYO ROMS CAN BE EITHER 1.1 OR 1.2 BOOTLOADER ROMS...BUT, the 1.2 branch has more of them, and there are 1.2 equalivents to just about all of them, so sticking with 1.2 for a Froyo rom is the best option because you'll still have the advanced stock recovery if you decide to stick with it.
That being said...why not mess around with the stock 4349 firmware to get a feel for the tablet a bit more? Check some things out. Get Titanium Backup and practice a bit with backup up apps and restoring them (you'll use this a LOT, especially if you rom jump trying to find the best one for you). Find out what you want the tablet to do, based on the stock firmware limitations. Some people are still using stock and not finding it too horrible. Spend a week with it, see what else you want it to do, and ask again when you know what you want out of your G-Tablet. And above all, ENJOY...you just entered a whole new world of personal computing...don't rush into anything and end up regretting your purchase.
P.S...I highly recommend you check out "G-Tablet for Dummies"
DarkHorse281 said:
I'm trying to do my very first mod to my gtab. I've posted some questions already but have more before I proceed. I'm running bootloader 1.2-4349. Do need to set up nvflash before I attempt flashing to a different ROM? Is there a CWM that is specific for my bootloader? I've searched for these answers on the forums but was unable to find them. I found many posts about these subject but no one answred them directly. Any help is much appreciated.
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Check out my website written for beginners. It will explain everything you need to know.
http://viewsonic-gtablet-for-dummies.webs.com/
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Make sure you read my page on flashing a rom.
http://viewsonic-gtablet-for-dummies.webs.com/rom.htm
Also, check out my page on CWM.
http://viewsonic-gtablet-for-dummies.webs.com/clockworkmod.htm
Much appreciated...awesome!
You guys are both awesome and a credit to the anroid community. I can't tell you how much I appreciate you help. I didn't go into much depth on this thread because I had already written one earlier in the day that shared my background and future intentions for my gtab. I didn't want to sound repetative plus I realize people don't care to read a novel in these forums. So I figured short and sweet I might get a better response, and I was right. Anyway, I hear what you're saying about messing around with the stock firmware TJ. The truth is I've had the tablet now for 3 weeks and I've played with it constantly. I have to say it's not as bad as I thought it would be but it lacks so many things that I've come to love about my Samsung Galaxy Indulge. Many people make fun of or pick on Metropcs and make fun of them as a company, but I have to say here in Florida they're great. I love my phone even though its not the top of the line galaxy phone. And their 4g service is fast in my neck of the woods. Having had such a great experience with that android device, I would really like to make something awesome out of my gtab. I want to use the 4g on my phone to connect to the internet and turn this tablet into a completely mobile multimedia device (Xvid, Avi, Mp3, Netflix, Hulu). I would also like to get the gps software put on it so that I can put my google maps app from my phone on it. Once I am be to get the phone rooted and the wifi or usb tethering up I can use it for navigation as well. I also miss the Android Market. I would love to get that back up and running on my tablet so that I can download some of the apps that I'm familiar with. I really like the dolphin browser on my Indulge and would love to have it on my tablet. I had it for a while on the gtab but had to do a factory reset because of something my kids did and now that I'm back to having nothing on my tablet I thought now would be a good time to try a different ROM. Besides it seemed a little glitchy anyway. Sorry about the novel guys, but now that you know a bit about me and what I want to use my tab for, which ROM do you think will suit my needs? Do you still think that Brilliant Corners is going to cover what I'm wanting out of my gtab? I'm going to check out GoodIntentions' web site and maybe I will get a clue. Thanks for your help guys. I hope to hear back soon.
P.S. One additional question. What's up with the bluetooth pairing? I can't get this thing to pair with any phones. I've tried mine and my gf's and it absolutely will not work.

Rooted/still Laggy

So I just rooted my wife's phone and froze as many apps as I could without glitching the system out with TB. The phone was super laggy from the box but now it seems better but she said today that it froze on her a couple times. I come from a Droid X with GB 2.3 rooted and it's pretty fast for me. Even when it was stock it was quick. I'm not sure what else to do. Since it's my wife's I would rather leave it as close to stock as possible. Any suggestions.
Also is there a list of apps that can be froze in TB without causing other issues. It may be possible I froze one to many.
Thanks for your time.
Terry
Divey1130 said:
So I just rooted my wife's phone and froze as many apps as I could without glitching the system out with TB. The phone was super laggy from the box but now it seems better but she said today that it froze on her a couple times. I come from a Droid X with GB 2.3 rooted and it's pretty fast for me. Even when it was stock it was quick. I'm not sure what else to do. Since it's my wife's I would rather leave it as close to stock as possible. Any suggestions.
Also is there a list of apps that can be froze in TB without causing other issues. It may be possible I froze one to many.
Thanks for your time.
Terry
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I would suggest you follow this link here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1048380
Download and flash one of the "DEBLOATED/DEODEXED"
These types of ROM's are completely stock just with all of the crap removed (bing and the VZW bloatware)
Shark has the thread updated to the 12th of June so they should be up-to-date.
Cheers
gkirby11 said:
I would suggest you follow this link here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1048380
Download and flash one of the "DEBLOATED/DEODEXED"
These types of ROM's are completely stock just with all of the crap removed (bing and the VZW bloatware)
Shark has the thread updated to the 12th of June so they should be up-to-date.
Cheers
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I read over it all and my wife's phone is ED04 which is not in his list. I think this is exactly what I am looking for. I understand most of it except the modem stuff. There are so many numbers and versions to use. This is so different than my droid x. If I would have started with her phone first, I probably would have never attempted to mod it. Anyways what should I do now? Would it be better to flash a rom that's not stco but stable and fast. Just for giggles I did a quadrant test on hers and mine. She barely broke 900 while mine is over 1900. Seems like a huge difference being both are 1g processors.
Thanks for the help.
Terry
Barely breaking 900 is normal if you are not using a voodoo enabled kernel. The rfs partition is what is the biggest bottleneck. If you truly want a snappy rom, jump to comrom or evil fascinate. I use both equally and both will give you the speed you are wishing to match from your dx. As for modems, your wife's modem is compatible with either rom I mentioned.
For now I would suggest keeping her phone froyo based as gb is still being worked on by our awesome devs, but isn't for the faint at heart just yet IMHO
Dalamar1320 said:
Barely breaking 900 is normal if you are not using a voodoo enabled kernel. The rfs partition is what is the biggest bottleneck. If you truly want a snappy rom, jump to comrom or evil fascinate. I use both equally and both will give you the speed you are wishing to match from your dx. As for modems, your wife's modem is compatible with either rom I mentioned.
For now I would suggest keeping her phone froyo based as gb is still being worked on by our awesome devs, but isn't for the faint at heart just yet IMHO
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Perfect, exactly what's needed. So do I follow these steps even tho is says from ED01.
Install Instructions:
If you are coming from a stock ED01 non rooted build follow these instructions:
Download Evil Fascination and place it on your SD card
Download Odin: http://www.mediafire.com/?msnc375idu7xhqt
Download Recovery: http://www.mediafire.com/?pfuhk4ibn9uore3
Install Samsung Drivers for your pc: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=779238
Remove battery from the phone
Connect the phone up through USB and hold volume down during the connection
Your phone will be in download mode
Open up Odin and click on the pda button and select the recovery file
Click Start on Odin - phone will reset when flashed
Hold volume up and down and insert battery back into the phone and boot it up. Hold volume up and down while it boots up and it will boot into CWM recovery. If it has boot up to the startup animation you will need to start over and reflash recovery through odin
When you are in CWM recovery continue with the instructions below.
If so I'm ready to flash it.
Thanks
Terry
Yeah that looks good. Just use Odin (pda button) to flash your recovery. (Ensure you are using the PDA button. Cannot emphasize that enough)
Then follow the steps outlines. You're good to go.
Dalamar1320 said:
Yeah that looks good. Just use Odin (pda button) to flash your recovery. (Ensure you are using the PDA button. Cannot emphasize that enough)
Then follow the steps outlines. You're good to go.
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Thanks a million. Will update after flash.
Terry
Just to make sure since there are a million different downloads is this the right one to download. (highlighted in red is the one)
CR 2.0
These versions will wipe your data, so make sure you back it up
This version contains the EC01 modem/radio and imnut's 05/31 PBJ -50mv nonvoodoo kernel
This version contains no modem/radio and imnuts' 05/31 PBJ -50mv nonvoodoo kernel
So this one would be without the kernel which is the modem/radio.
Then I do this patch for 2.1
Com Rom (froyo) 2.1 (patch, must flash on top of 2.0, no need to wipe):
md5: 725f94fa1cad7e562a767cd61ecd590b
And then this theme.
[THEME] Crysis Revolution v4.0 *Community ROM 2.1!* *6.20.11*
Is this all correct and in the right order. I want to 100% sure before I do this. Man is it so much different than flashing my DX.
Thanks
Terry
Divey1130 said:
Just to make sure since there are a million different downloads is this the right one to download. (highlighted in red is the one)
CR 2.0
These versions will wipe your data, so make sure you back it up
This version contains the EC01 modem/radio and imnut's 05/31 PBJ -50mv nonvoodoo kernel
This version contains no modem/radio and imnuts' 05/31 PBJ -50mv nonvoodoo kernel
So this one would be without the kernel which is the modem/radio.
Then I do this patch for 2.1
Com Rom (froyo) 2.1 (patch, must flash on top of 2.0, no need to wipe):
md5: 725f94fa1cad7e562a767cd61ecd590b
And then this theme.
[THEME] Crysis Revolution v4.0 *Community ROM 2.1!* *6.20.11*
Is this all correct and in the right order. I want to 100% sure before I do this. Man is it so much different than flashing my DX.
Thanks
Terry
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this looks fine, no need to worry about the radio I believe it will use the one from whatever baseband you're at before you flash (ED04 I believe you said) or you can flash the one with ED01 radio... yes ComRom with imnuts' PBJ kernel is good, I would suggest the voodoo kernel one but its up to you, patch on top of that then theme after and you should be set
tapatalked from my GINGERBANGED Fascinate
As anoninja said. You should be good to go. Thing to keep in mind is that it is very difficult to brick your fascinate. Not impassible. But difficult. As long as you stay with fascinate files, never try captivate, vibrant, i9000, etc, stuff, then worse case scenario, you may have to odin back to stock and try again, but even that's unlikely. Good luck. Keep us posted with your progress
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA App
Hey thanks guys, feels better knowing it's not so easy to screw my phone up. I read a little about voodoo before work and yes, I do want to have it. So the majic question is, which one.
Thanks
Terry
Well if you choose evil fascination with the kernel, I think out will automatically convert you to voodoo so no extra steps other then to wait for the conversion after it boots.
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA App
After doing some more research I have decided to go with Com Rom 2.0 then patched to 2.1.
I am going to go with this one:
*Fixed* UKB 2.0 with -50 PBJ Voodoo Kernel ***6.4.11 (script fixed)
md5: 1092A4F02F668521D633670A80BA127C
My wife doesn't like the all black theme on the evil rom. Now I am still a little confused on the kernel thing. I have been reading for awhile now and will continue to do so. I'm not understanding if I have to flash the kernel first or rom first. I have been through the fascinate development thread over and over and while most put "how to's" in them, I still don't understand in which order things should go. There is so much to do just to flash a rom on this phone. But I know I will get it done even if I have to start over from fresh. So many roms, kernels, updates, 2.2.3.4.6._______, etc, etc...... What exactly is a kernel? I come from the droid x back ground where we root, cwr, then flash. That's it. Also to me Odin seems to be a 3rd party app that's needed to flash CWR. Other than that is there any other use for it. Sorry for all the ?'s but I like to do my homework before I do something like this. I am a pretty good self learner but the way things are worded for the phone is a little confusing at times. Maybe a step by step list if starting fresh.
EX- 1-root
2-odin
3-cwr
4-kernel or rom or both
Something like that would be easier to understand. Anyways I always appreciate any help I get.
Thanks
Terry
Divey1130 said:
After doing some more research I have decided to go with Com Rom 2.0 then patched to 2.1.
I am going to go with this one:
*Fixed* UKB 2.0 with -50 PBJ Voodoo Kernel ***6.4.11 (script fixed)
md5: 1092A4F02F668521D633670A80BA127C
My wife doesn't like the all black theme on the evil rom. Now I am still a little confused on the kernel thing. I have been reading for awhile now and will continue to do so. I'm not understanding if I have to flash the kernel first or rom first. I have been through the fascinate development thread over and over and while most put "how to's" in them, I still don't understand in which order things should go. There is so much to do just to flash a rom on this phone. But I know I will get it done even if I have to start over from fresh. So many roms, kernels, updates, 2.2.3.4.6._______, etc, etc...... What exactly is a kernel? I come from the droid x back ground where we root, cwr, then flash. That's it. Also to me Odin seems to be a 3rd party app that's needed to flash CWR. Other than that is there any other use for it. Sorry for all the ?'s but I like to do my homework before I do something like this. I am a pretty good self learner but the way things are worded for the phone is a little confusing at times. Maybe a step by step list if starting fresh.
EX- 1-root
2-odin
3-cwr
4-kernel or rom or both
Something like that would be easier to understand. Anyways I always appreciate any help I get.
Thanks
Terry
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yes odin is a 3rd party program used to push installs, and most roms nowadays will root you and install kernel (most come with it built in unless otherwise specified) when you flash them so no worries about rooting or kernels... a little about voodoo here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1043673&highlight=voodoo
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1039897&highlight=voodoo
and you can read about what all these 'roms', 'radios' and 'kernels' are here (i wouldn't get any downloads from here as this is old):
https://docs.google.com/document/d/...XcM268FoIzk/edit?hl=en&authkey=CKqWypcP&pli=1
I'll try and make it simple, this is how I did it and had no problems:
1. obvious step, have all the driver, programs and packages you need ready to go: samsung drivers and odin on your pc, both ComRom 2.0 and 2.1 patch on sd card
2. assuming you're already on EB01 froyo baseband or higher, you wanna use odin to install CWR
3. from CWR make any backups you want then wipe data/cache/dalvik
4. flash .zip of rom you want (ComRom 2.0), select reboot phone once to ensure it took. Since you're flashing a voodoo kernel on first boot you should hear a robot lady saying she's formatting partitions, this may take a while but its normal
5. once it started up power phone off and boot again into CWR (or use power button menu to boot straight there with 'recovery' option)
6. flash .zip of ComRom patch, no wiping needed and select reboot phone
7. congrats you're rooted, voodoo'd and running ComRom 2.1
tapatalked from my GINGERBANGED Fascinate
anoninja118 said:
yes odin is a 3rd party program used to push installs, and most roms nowadays will root you and install kernel (most come with it built in unless otherwise specified) when you flash them so no worries about rooting or kernels... a little about voodoo here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1043673&highlight=voodoo
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1039897&highlight=voodoo
and you can read about what all these 'roms', 'radios' and 'kernels' are here (i wouldn't get any downloads from here as this is old):
https://docs.google.com/document/d/...XcM268FoIzk/edit?hl=en&authkey=CKqWypcP&pli=1
I'll try and make it simple, this is how I did it and had no problems:
1. obvious step, have all the driver, programs and packages you need ready to go: samsung drivers and odin on your pc, both ComRom 2.0 and 2.1 patch on sd card
2. assuming you're already on EB01 froyo baseband or higher, you wanna use odin to install CWR
3. from CWR make any backups you want then wipe data/cache/dalvik
4. flash .zip of rom you want (ComRom 2.0), select reboot phone once to ensure it took. Since you're flashing a voodoo kernel on first boot you should hear a robot lady saying she's formatting partitions, this may take a while but its normal
5. once it started up power phone off and boot again into CWR (or use power button menu to boot straight there with 'recovery' option)
6. flash .zip of ComRom patch, no wiping needed and select reboot phone
7. congrats you're rooted, voodoo'd and running ComRom 2.1
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You are the shiz nik. Perfectly worded and the timing couldn't have been better. Phone has both files ready to go. I found some more literature on kernels and now understand what it does. Pretty much controls performance of the phone. And I see roms with and without kernels. For my first time with this phone I will go with a kernel/rom. The radio is stock ED04 which I will leave stock. Will update after I finish all of this. My wife will be stoked now that her phone will run smoothly. Thanks for the detailed explanation for me.
Terry
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You are the shiz nik. Perfectly worded and the timing couldn't have been better. Phone has both files ready to go. I found some more literature on kernels and now understand what it does. Pretty much controls performance of the phone. And I see roms with and without kernels. For my first time with this phone I will go with a kernel/rom. The radio is stock ED04 which I will leave stock. Will update after I finish all of this. My wife will be stoked now that her phone will run smoothly. Thanks for the detailed explanation for me.
Terry
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no problem, good luck
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I just wanted to thank all of you that helped me here. Running Com Rom 2.0 w/2.1 patch. It's nite and day compared to how the phone was. So much smoother and no lags as of yet. My wife couldn't be happier now with the phone working like it should be. I did encounter one issue tho. I could not create a backup. It would read an error message. (forgot what it said) Anyways thanks a million for the help. The crt animation is awesome and I love the functions when powering off. Rebooting instead of powering off then on and especially booting into recovery without pushing the volume rocker. Well I am going to add a theme for her so richen it up and go from there.
Just got it to backup as I was typing this. After reading thread after thread it seemed like you either had to flash a kernel other than stock or flash a rom before it would back up. I even tried red, blue, and purple with no luck. Oh well at least now it's backed up.
Terry
Divey1130 said:
I just wanted to thank all of you that helped me here. Running Com Rom 2.0 w/2.1 patch. It's nite and day compared to how the phone was. So much smoother and no lags as of yet. My wife couldn't be happier now with the phone working like it should be. I did encounter one issue tho. I could not create a backup. It would read an error message. (forgot what it said) Anyways thanks a million for the help. The crt animation is awesome and I love the functions when powering off. Rebooting instead of powering off then on and especially booting into recovery without pushing the volume rocker. Well I am going to add a theme for her so richen it up and go from there.
Just got it to backup as I was typing this. After reading thread after thread it seemed like you either had to flash a kernel other than stock or flash a rom before it would back up. I even tried red, blue, and purple with no luck. Oh well at least now it's backed up.
Terry
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sucks about the backup, the voodoo lagfix CWR versions are known to have problems with this and unfortunately I forgot to mention this, I tend to not do nandroid backups since I don't keep much on my phone in terms of data and apps, being the flashaholic that I am lol anyway good that you got it up and running, its good stuff and a million times better than stock
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Could really use some advice

Hi,
I've been reading and reading but am not fully comforatable making a decision on what to do here, really want to avoid bricking my baby I'm running a Bell Atrix with Version 4.2.11.MB860.Retail.en.FR. I really want Gingerbread and am tired of waiting for Bell to release it, even if they did, I would have to somehow return to a stock Bell Rom. What is my best option to upgrade right now avoiding any kind of bricking, memory or battery issues? Links would be great
I don't have any links for you, as I'm on my phone right now, but as a first step you need to flash the IHOP_bell.sbf to unlock your bootloader.
This is probably the riskiest part since you're flashing an sbf, but it's small and quick. If you have osx or linux, sbf_flash actually feels safer to use than the glitchy rsd lite from moto. After that install cwm using moto-fastboot. Once you have the clockwork mod recovery system it becomes very easy to switch roms from directly on your phone. Look for gobstopper by nfhimself. He was kind enough to put together some really good stuff for us.
Something to note: 2.3.4 and cm7 are both somewhat buggy at this stage. Buggy enough that I've gone back to 2.2.2 for now. I can put up with fc's but I can't have my main phone rebooting or freezing, or having irregular battery so often
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Not sure of all the differences between the Bell and ATT versions but there is a great n00b guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154600
You still have to look around a bit to find all the things you need. Unlocking the boot loader and rooting really aren't all that difficult.
Like maledyris said, its really easy to switch ROMs once you get CWM (Clockwork Mod) installed.
I'm a n00b and had no issues following Swiftks instructions.
Be sure to pay attention and don't try something for ATT only.
Have fun!

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