No-frills CPU control - Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps

Just tried this app. Amazing.
Downsized the cpu to 333, and 222MHz, and then the phone is still usable.
Speedx3D game on 333Mhz running at ~20 FPS, playable..
if battery performance is not enough, try this, try this.
For e-mail, sms, phone 222MHz is enough.
Root is needed to use.
Find on Market.

Any reason to use this when one has SetCPU up and running? Distinct advantages or someting like that?

need more feedback to use such a tool. you can wreck your cpu on a long run.

pflorin said:
need more feedback to use such a tool. you can wreck your cpu on a long run.
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How ?

stubborn_d0nkey said:
How ?
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I agree, how? I could see how you can wreck the CPU if you overclock, but not if you underclock. In fact, most CPUs are overclocked a tiny bit to begin with.

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What is it? Purpose? How do you do it? How does it optimize my phone?
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Google is your friend. Search CPU OVERCLOCKING.
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It's something cool, you could use SetCPU or Overclock Widget, and it's like adding rocket-fuel to a campfire.
ddotpatel said:
Google is your friend. Search CPU OVERCLOCKING.
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the time it took you to be a smart ass you could have just said what it did.
i did a search for it and yet it wasnt informative enough. hence why i came here and asked.
Google want enough? Wow! Over clocking increases the clock speed of your cpu making it calculate faster.
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silver2kgti said:
the time it took you to be a smart ass you could have just said what it did.
i did a search for it and yet it wasn't informative enough. hence why i came here and asked.
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Alright, then I'm sorry Google couldn't answer your question. (Which is odd, since overclocking is kinda popular.)
Anyways, Overclocking means to "Make the CPU go faster than it was designed for". Some devices "like the hero" can jump from 518mhz to a stable 691mhz by overclocking, this increases the speed of the CPU so that programs and the OS can work faster.
But overclocking is about finding the highest speed, while having the stability to use it. Since it's no use to overclock, if it makes your phone unusable to use. (Force closes, phone freezing etc.)
Overclocking CAN harm your device, if you take a too high value. But if you stay inside a stable zone, there shouldn't be any harm to your device.
You can experience that the phone is getting a bit hot, or that the battery is emptied faster than normal.
Since the CPU drains so much power, there are settings that allow to set a different clock (how fast the device should go in mhz) when the phone is at sleep. So that it can run at a much lower frequency, when you don't use it.
ROM developers normally post ( 691/197 ) or something at their thread, the first number is the CPU speed when it's on and you're using it. And the other is when the phone is at sleep.
If there's anything other you want the answer to, ask it here.
But, please use Gooogle search Before posting anything.
Overclocking increases the clock speeds of a CPU. And as a result means it can do *things* faster.
Overclocking on a desktop PC tends to increase the voltages to overclock the device over this isn't really an option on a phone as it has limited battery life. So overclocking on a phone is normally done by software changes. When CPU makers make a CPU they can not be 100% accurate on the performance of that chip - in fact its very much the opposite, so after each chip is made it is tested and then given a clock speed and locked to that, overclocking breaks that and allows you to manually increase the clock, however overclocking capabilities will be different on every device.
If you take an example of an Intel Chip, a 2.66GHz Core-2-Duo, this is exactly the same chip as the 3.06GHz however when tested it wouldn't run as fast so Intel sell it at a stable clock speed.
Overclocking the hero shouldn't really have any implications for the device, however overclocks can reduce the life-time of a CPU (and any other hardware you might overclock). You shouldn't notice much extra heat from the device as the voltages being used are not changing.
Hope that cleared some of it up for you.
silver2kgti said:
the time it took you to be a smart ass you could have just said what it did.
i did a search for it and yet it wasnt informative enough. hence why i came here and asked.
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Did you forget to press the search button?
Some of the top results from google:
Wikipedia
What is Overclocking?
What is overclocking?
What is overclocking?
Overclocking Guide
Really was that so hard?

Who has their S2 overclocked?

Who has their S2 overclocked?
And if so at what speed?
MJ-12
MJ-12 said:
Who has their S2 overclocked?
And if so at what speed?
MJ-12
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Juuuust check my signature.
And to that,add a GPU overclock at 400MHz when I happen to install CF-Root at times.
Whats the point if over clocking, no games are designed for much more than 800mhz, and apps hardly anywhere near, you still don't get anymore apps starting open in the background, things don't run any noticeably faster, just hotter...
THUDUK said:
Whats the point if over clocking, no games are designed for much more than 800mhz, and apps hardly anywhere near, you still don't get anymore apps starting open in the background, things don't run any noticeably faster, just hotter...
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i agree with you.
THUDUK said:
Whats the point if over clocking, no games are designed for much more than 800mhz, and apps hardly anywhere near, you still don't get anymore apps starting open in the background, things don't run any noticeably faster, just hotter...
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Right now it means nothing, but in future it definitely does. And if no games are supported more than 800 MHz then we shouldn't have purchased this phone!
Anyway, I am not overclocked atm but I will be as soon as GS III or Nexus Prime reaches market with higher clock rate just to console myself that I am not outdated
Regards.
It's utterly pointless overclocking a device which already runs everything without breaking sweat, I'm at a loss as to why anyone bothers. I have mine running at 800mhz and don't have any problems running anything, with superb battery life and no overheating. If at some point applications are released which require more than a 1.2ghz dual core (and that is a long way off) then I will consider overclocking but how on earth that means it needs to be used now is beyond me.

[Q] Overclocking Questions

First of all, I got interested in overclocking because I've read that it helps boost the performance of android devices.
Now, Having no experience at all, I have some queries and questions about this feature:
1. Supposing that I have already downloaded an OC with my preferred frequency, Do I have to flash to be able to apply an OC Kernel in my device? Or do I just have to update it from CWM?
2. What does this term mean? :
"use no-Frills for OC and I/O setting"
3. If ever the OC I have applied is unstable, how would I be able to revert it to 600MHz again?
I hope you guys could help me with my doubts.
Thanks in Advance!
Dude never overclock a device...it decreases the life of the device and who the heck told u that improves the performance of the device???It doesn't improve just causes more problems!!!!!
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vipaman said:
Dude never overclock a device...it decreases the life of the device and who the heck told u that improves the performance of the device???It doesn't improve just causes more problems!!!!!
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Stop lying . It may decrease the life of your device if you overclock dangerously (too high for the processor to handle). It does increase performance.
JakeJester said:
First of all, I got interested in overclocking because I've read that it helps boost the performance of android devices.
Now, Having no experience at all, I have some queries and questions about this feature:
1. Supposing that I have already downloaded an OC with my preferred frequency, Do I have to flash to be able to apply an OC Kernel in my device? Or do I just have to update it from CWM?
2. What does this term mean? :
"use no-Frills for OC and I/O setting"
3. If ever the OC I have applied is unstable, how would I be able to revert it to 600MHz again?
I hope you guys could help me with my doubts.
Thanks in Advance!
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1. You just set your frequency in the app.
2. No frills is an app. Whoever stated that is just saying you should use that app to do it (thier preference).
3. If you use SetCPU, you can create an update.zip file which allows you to set it back to the default frequency via recovery (if your device can't boot).
vipaman said:
Dude never overclock a device...it decreases the life of the device and who the heck told u that improves the performance of the device???It doesn't improve just causes more problems!!!!!
Hit The Thanks Button if I have Helped.
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Are you sure? This is far contrary in the threads that I've read. Does anyone else agree with this?
Totally confusing. HELP!!
It's ur device ur wish. Any overclocking involes a lot of danger. Set it too high for the cpu to handle it might explode(personal experince). I overclocked my device and it exploded....So it's ur wish.
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Theonew said:
Stop lying . It may decrease the life of your device if you overclock dangerously (too high for the processor to handle). It does increase performance.
1. You just set your frequency in the app.
2. No frills is an app. Whoever stated that is just saying you should use that app to do it (thier preference).
3. If you use SetCPU, you can create an update.zip file which allows you to set it back to the default frequency via recovery (if your device can't boot).
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Phew! At last. Something worth reading.
Thanks for the answers! But I have another follow up question.
I found this thread :
[kernel] Cm7 OC kernel with all feature
So what does this mean? Why do I have to download it from there instead of using the app to change the frequency?
JakeJester said:
Phew! At last. Something worth reading.
Thanks for the answers! But I have another follow up question.
I found this thread :
[kernel] Cm7 OC kernel with all feature
So what does this mean? Why do I have to download it from there instead of using the app to change the frequency?
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Because not all kernels have OC/UC capabilities. You have to download and flash a kernel that allows it.
lowandbehold said:
Because not all kernels have OC/UC capabilities. You have to download and flash a kernel that allows it.
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Yeah right! I forgot about that.
Maybe my Samsung Galaxy Fit doesn't have that capability that's why they created that thread in our section.
Thanks for the reply!
JakeJester said:
Yeah right! I forgot about that.
Maybe my Samsung Galaxy Fit doesn't have that capability that's why they created that thread in our section.
Thanks for the reply!
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It is capable. That kernel will allow it.
Yes you can revert back to 600mhz, but as everyone else has said, do not overclock too far.
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vipaman said:
It's ur device ur wish. Any overclocking involes a lot of danger. Set it too high for the cpu to handle it might explode(personal experince). I overclocked my device and it exploded....So it's ur wish.
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Don't overclock beyond what anyone else has had success with. Look up other's successes.
And if you can't, doing it step-by-step, ~100mHz at a time, slowly, will make it feel hot or crash before it explodes (back down if it does get hot or unstable).
Undervolting can also help counteract some of the bad parts of overclocking, without affecting performance at all. UV can, worst case scenario, cause data loss and crashing, never hardware damage, but best case scenario improves battery and device life. Again, do it step-by-step, 5V at a time, slowly, and back up when it starts acting weird
You can check this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1247213
you need to have a kernel that allows for OCing/UCing , i'm not sure if galaxy fit allows it
you'll know if it allows it or not if you'll run an app that allows for OCing/UCing, if it doesn't allow it, the maximum frequency at which you can set is 600mhz only which is the default.
My phone's rooted for the first time several days ago and the CPU is overclocked from 1Ghz to 1.7Ghz.
I suppose it depends on overclocking application. The ROM that I have includes an O/C app and there's an option called "on demand" which means even if your CPU is overclocked, it will not utilize the max clock speed all the time.
My phone actually runs at 300Mhz on standby and around 1.2Mhz when I am using it to surf, listen to music or watch a movie. I've never seen it run max 1.7Ghz.
Bro don`t overclock a device
Rumor if u overclock a device, it decreases the life of the device
c.innovation said:
Bro don`t overclock a device
Rumor if u overclock a device, it decreases the life of the device
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It depends on your device (and kernel), plus the frequency you set it to. Also, it's based on your preference to do it or not.

[Q] Set CPU - How to overclock my SGA?

Hey guys,
I have just installed OmegaRom by Team Cooper and what a Rom it is!!! Amazing is an understatement.
Okay so with there new Rom v2, it has an OC kernal built in and it does work...BUT I need to know how to OC the thing safely and squeezing as much performance as possible!
I have it at 825 and min 806 mhz, scaler is performance.
What settings would you pro's recommened?
Thanks!
Edit 1- I am using SetCPU to OC.
"overclock" and "safe" cannot be use in the same sentence, it just wrong.
theres no safe overclocking. moreover each and every device is unique even for the same model.
what is working with others doesnt guarantee it'll works with yours.
an0nym0us_ said:
"overclock" and "safe" cannot be use in the same sentence, it just wrong.
theres no safe overclocking. moreover each and every device is unique even for the same model.
what is working with others doesnt guarantee it'll works with yours.
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What I meant was a stable OC that may work with my phone... I OC computers too so I know the risk's involved. So what I was asking was what OC's worked with peoples phones so I could get a rough idea on how to govern my cpu and OC it without totally messing it up.
davalav said:
What I meant was a stable OC that may work with my phone... I OC computers too so I know the risk's involved. So what I was asking was what OC's worked with peoples phones so I could get a rough idea on how to govern my cpu and OC it without totally messing it up.
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i hope u are aware of the ill effects of OCing.....battery takes a real beating....well i have done it upto 886 mhz....many others have done it upto 1ghz mark...but i personally do not recommend...
CPU Tuner
I try CPU Tuner, is similar ti setCPU but is free whit THE END 3.0 custom ROM and use the 864-254 mhz for screen on and 480-122 for screen off whitout problems, previously I use 904 mhz, but sometime it freeze...
Bye Pistaaa
sreesh87 said:
i hope u are aware of the ill effects of OCing.....battery takes a real beating....well i have done it upto 886 mhz....many others have done it upto 1ghz mark...but i personally do not recommend...
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I have OCed it to 902 mhz..
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Thanks for the comments guys... Gives me a rough estimate on its limits.
So far I have been running 844mhz performance for a while, since I created this thread and the battery has remained at 82%!
I have benched using AnTuTu twice and have excellent read and write speeds, compared to other benchies I have seen, OmegaRom is the best Rom I have ever used!
Cheers,
i tried cpufrills and its the best for me
I don't Think U mustuse over clocking,even my setting was min245 max 902,the effect just draining more battery,and if using to much can damaging ur prosessor
I know you might think what I'm going to write is unnecessary and going to contradict with your believes here. but I'm going say it anyway.
If you are going to use your device for a long time then I would suggest not to overclock too much. You'll know when something will go wrong with your over-clocking. Your SGA would start rebooting randomly. Heating up would be excessively common once you start overclocking, using your SGA while it's charging. Over clocking will definitely reduce your processor life span. People who do can over clock their device to get the max out of their device and know they're going to change the device in sometime later anyway.
Rushyang said:
I know you might think what I'm going to write is unnecessary and going to contradict with your believes here. but I'm going say it anyway.
If you are going to use your device for a long time then I would suggest not to overclock too much. You'll know when something will go wrong with your over-clocking. Your SGA would start rebooting randomly. Heating up would be excessively common once you start overclocking, using your SGA while it's charging. Over clocking will definitely reduce your processor life span. People who do can over clock their device to get the max out of their device and know they're going to change the device in sometime later anyway.
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Don't worry! Like I said, I have experience O/C'ing processors etc and I know how bad the effects can be! I am not going for a massive overclock at all. Just a tiny bump in the speed. At the moment, I am running 825mhz and already the speed has improved dramatically. I may go a little further but 902mhz is a bit mental for my liking.
Pistaaa said:
I try CPU Tuner, is similar ti setCPU but is free whit THE END 3.0 custom ROM and use the 864-254 mhz for screen on and 480-122 for screen off whitout problems, previously I use 904 mhz, but sometime it freeze...
Bye Pistaaa
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SetCPU is free for XDA members and it's the best one ever...period
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505419
Pistaaa said:
I try CPU Tuner, is similar ti setCPU but is free whit THE END 3.0 custom ROM and use the 864-254 mhz for screen on and 480-122 for screen off whitout problems, previously I use 904 mhz, but sometime it freeze...
Bye Pistaaa
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setCPU is free to if you download it from the forum

how and why to overclock (toms hardware article

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/overclock-android-device,review-1762.html#xtor=RSS-998
Opinions from people who really know? I can't imagine that overclocking increases battery life.
It doesn't. At least from my understanding. In fact as I understand it running at higher clock speeds would decrease your battery life no? I usually under clock, so...
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The theory is that overclocking allows you to complete processes quicker, which in turn allows the processor to go back to a idle/deep sleep faster. In practice it doesn't really work that way though.
ryude said:
The theory is that overclocking allows you to complete processes quicker, which in turn allows the processor to go back to a idle/deep sleep faster. In practice it doesn't really work that way though.
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doesn't the increase in voltage also come into effect?
They did talk a little about undervolting to increase battery life. Personally I don't worry about it. I'm not using my phone to sort out heavy algorithims at the moment, so running how it does is fast enough for what I use it at. Just found the article interesting.
K Rich said:
doesn't the increase in voltage also come into effect?
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They say the undervolting on lower clocks should balance out the higher voltage on overclocks.
stalked_r/t said:
They did talk a little about undervolting to increase battery life. Personally I don't worry about it. I'm not using my phone to sort out heavy algorithims at the moment, so running how it does is fast enough for what I use it at. Just found the article interesting.
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Undervolting rarely makes a difference on mobile SoC's, but on the desktop/laptop CPUs you can really save a ton of power with undervolting and underclocking.
Why to overclock and understand it?
Here is a good reason to know what you are doing..
and the battery avg's lasting at least through the day, but most of the time, I have a charger near me...
EDITED: because it won't accept my screenshots HTML Probably cause I have n00b status on this account name.
AnTuTu Benchmark v.2.8
Total Score: 7446
RAM: 1201
CPU Int: 2264
CPU Float: 1767
2D: 295
3D: 1148
Database: 450
SD W 11.8MB 118
SD R >50MB 203
1600mhz
2012-05-23 18:17
You can view this SN here: Screenshot
Fluxi Kernel/My own OOM settings/AOKP/my own XXTweaker settings
The article says its not the actual overclocking that is saving battery life. When you put SetCPU on your phone not only can you overlock but you can underclock and set different voltages. I'm not 100% sure how the voltages play into it but you can set the processor to run at really low speeds during certain acts ei. when the screen is off, or any other time you don't necessarily need alot of power. That's and I changed all the voltages (I got them from a post where the guy knew what he was doing and tested them). I get almost 2 days moderate browsing, apps and text. If I talk alot or use my hotspot I only get 1.5 days. It is a little time consuming to get everything just right but when you do you really see it.
icyhandlz said:
The article says its not the actual overclocking that is saving battery life. When you put SetCPU on your phone not only can you overlock but you can underclock and set different voltages.
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This isn't a SetCpu feature there are other programs that can do this as well. It just so happens SetCpu has it built into the program. I bought SetCpu back in my Atrix days and loved it so it does work great for a simple tuning program.
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Many of the kernels these days have their own tweaks and mod apps as well
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I'm running a kernerl and a custom ROM that allows me to underclock and overclock.
I tried it out both ways and the battery lasted for almost the same amount as on the stock option. As I tend to play games a lot on my phone, the underclocking ran into some issues with stuttering and sometimes force close of a couple of games.
Personally, I've never been a big fan of either .

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