[Q] Vanilla android. Will there be a custom rom as such? - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Coming from the nexus1, I really cannot put up with sense, but learning to live with it. However, may I ask if there will be a custom ROM that will provide the vanilla android experience (ala, no sense widgets, email, phone dialer, and so forth)? It's really disappointing that Verizon doesn't get any nexus phones, although if the Nexus S came to VZ with full LTE flavors, it would have been a win.

Completely agree. I've got Gingerbread on my N1 and love how fast and clean the UI is. Sprint will be getting the Nexus S on their 4G network, but it pales in comparison to Verizon's.
+1 for a stock, pure Google ROM

what25 said:
Coming from the nexus1, I really cannot put up with sense, but learning to live with it. However, may I ask if there will be a custom ROM that will provide the vanilla android experience (ala, no sense widgets, email, phone dialer, and so forth)? It's really disappointing that Verizon doesn't get any nexus phones, although if the Nexus S came to VZ with full LTE flavors, it would have been a win.
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You Can Try a Different Launcher like Launcher pro. Its Smooth and fast and looks more Vanilla ish on home screen. Plus you can adds more rows/columns for more apps on a single page. It can atleast Hold you off untill somthing good comes out.

Once HTC releases our source code CM7 will be available and we can all get back to vanilla.
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The rom I would love to see

I love HTC Sense! Not so much the main layout or launcher, but I love the menus and the contact integration with Facebook, Twitter, calander, favorites widget etc. If a Sense UI rom came out, or one integrated with Launcherpro this phone would be unreal! Please developers make this happen
DrewDanger said:
I love HTC Sense! Not so much the main layout or launcher, but I love the menus and the contact integration with Facebook, Twitter, calander, favorites widget etc. If a Sense UI rom came out, or one integrated with Launcherpro this phone would be unreal! Please developers make this happen
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I thought the Fascinate had pretty good integration... i do love sense too though.
Vanilla rom with LP or
Cyan with ADW or LP.
I do like the gui for the Fascinate and sense ui, but being realistic I would be happy with a Cyan rom with ADW or LP
ADW would be perfect if it had the same widgets LP had.
Why don't you return your Fascinate and go get an Incredible then? Seriously, why buy the Fascinate and then ask for a Sense or Droid-X-ish port. Want some iOS while we're at it?
I think it would be awesome seeing sense on this phone. Because of the amazing hardware. Nothing that htc has is comparable to this phone. And since were on android we can port roms.
40Glock said:
Why don't you return your Fascinate and go get an Incredible then? Seriously, why buy the Fascinate and then ask for a Sense or Droid-X-ish port. Want some iOS while we're at it?
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You reply is unnecessary. What's wrong with wanting the best of both worlds? I want the better hardware, screen (size), and battery life of the Fascinate with Sense. You don't? That's cool - just don't tell others what they should or shouldn't want.
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Why don't you return your Fascinate and go get an Incredible then? Seriously, why buy the Fascinate and then ask for a Sense or Droid-X-ish port. Want some iOS while we're at it?
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I actually own both phones so thanks =) Secondly I like the design of the Fascinate, I just like the UI of the Incredible way better. I mean really if you wanted a phone that looks like the iPhone why dont you return your Fascinate and go buy an iPhone?
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I actually own both phones so thanks =) Secondly I like the design of the Fascinate, I just like the UI of the Incredible way better. I mean really if you wanted a phone that looks like the iPhone why dont you return your Fascinate and go buy an iPhone?
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If he bought an iphone then it would be running ios and not android. The ui on the incredible is called sense. Sense is a rom that can be ported over to other android devices. The fascinate has the highest rated cpu and graphics on the market to the date, also has the best screen to size ratio to date.so if you put a ui you love on a phone that can beautifully support it , then why not. Sense on the fascinate will be better then anything htc has with sense in americas carrier line up .

[Q] Why do people complain about HTC's Sense???

Not understanding all the Sense "hate" by people who know that it's HTC's trademark feature. Samsung has the Touchwiz and Motorola has their Motoblur...and HTC has Sense. But people talk about wanting a "pure Android experience"...What? The crappy basic icons that look as though a 5 yr old made them? What is a "pure Android experience" anyway? It's like buying a Mustang GT then *****ing about the GT and complaining to Ford that you want a "pure Mustang experience"...without the 5.0. If you want a "pure Android experience", why not purchase an LG Android device next time because they seem pretty basic instead of an HTC device with Sense. Isn't Sense the reason most of us were attracted to the device? We thought it was stylish and neat. It was the reason for me, anyway. The bottom line is that it just seems a bit ridiculous to purchase a device then complain about the devices main feature after KNOWING the feature is on the device. Hope those who compain about not wanting Sense on their HTC device find that "pure Android experience" they so desperately desire...let us know how it works out for ya. I personally like Sense and look forward to it's development. Cool story, eh?
Well....the borked bluetooth stack kinda sucks for one.
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Ok, not being a smartass, but what does that have to do with Sense? Wouldn't that be a device hardware issue? I really DON'T understand. I thought Sense was basically, in a nutchell, HTC's customization or am I off on this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Sense
"Pure Android Experience", meaning to have just the basic features."...People who want this, you guys have fun with your phones. (rolling eyes) May as well just go get an iPhone ;-)
Sense may look pretty, but it's one of the reasons why are stock batteries are awful!! I have 2 roms in the gsm thread, my senseless gingerdex and my gingerdex with sense.
My senseless rom gives me roughly 40-50% more battery life??? With the same kernel and setup on both.
There is about 70mb of sense related bloatware I removed.
I like the sense, however it's sluggish and slows down our phones.
Wait till you try a aosp rom the speed is scary fast, and I like to customize my phone, for me with sense gone, I have no choice but to roam the app market and completely create my own unique look.
Just my opinion
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ADJackson171 said:
Ok, not being a smartass, but what does that have to do with Sense? Wouldn't that be a device hardware issue? I really DON'T understand. I thought Sense was basically, in a nutchell, HTC's customization or am I off on this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Sense
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It has to do with Sense because it's Sense-specific. HTC uses some weird implementation of Bluetooth so it doesn't always work properly. AOSP roms don't have this issue, generally.
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HTC screwed up Bluetooth. These guys aren't making it up. Throw an AOSP ROM on the 3d and it sounds great. On sense it sounds like garbage.
That's my primary beef with sense. Fix Bluetooth or give us a standard AOSP rom
Ok, I get the battery and bluetooth issue. Thanks for your input guys. I've wanted to root my phone but I have HBOOT 1.5 and it seems to be just a hassle anymore in addition to not wanting to flash a ROM that doesn't have everything working, so screw it.
Im pretty sure the biggest feature of this phone is not sense and most likely is the 3d. wether or not thats the reason you bought it that is this phones mightiest point.
However neither of these are the reasons i bought this phone, i bought it cause it has a good hardware design and the specs are all top notch.
And yes I ABSOLUTELY despise Sense and its lack of customizability.
Sense is good for some people and bad for others. I personally love it, but I still run AOSP just as often as I do Sense. Options are never a bad thing, and Sense is maturing finely. The next generation should improve on battery life with quad cores and sleeker Sense versions.
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Well stated, Sora. I get it now. Thanks
I gotta say I prefer sense I like some of the features it has...
I would be running CM if they were pumpin roms out but due to the 3D part of the camera going away can't say I would be using it for long..
Anyway sense isn't bad has some ups and downs...
Samsung touch wiz sucks lol man I never liked it on the EPIC...
Never tried the Photon.. So I can't say much about it...
Been liking Fresh Rom battery life is great on it since most of the junk bloat was pulled..... No issues...
What bluetooth issue are you guys referring to? I use my jaybird freedoms and everything works great
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Personally I like sense, but it is far from perfect. Bluetooth is finnicky and doesn't work with a six axis controller, sense in general is a very obese implementation of android which generally slows everything down, the screen drivers seem very buggy, etc.
Generally everything works on it, but it's far from perfect. I have a feeling ICS will be a huge upgrade all around though as they've had plenty of time to refine everything for this hardware.
Gotta say this was enlightening. I have heard people show utter disdain for sense and didn't really know why. I like it myself but to each his own.
Sounds like OP is just pissed he's a 1.5'er. And don't ever compare a pure android experience to an iPhone. Shame on you
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My 2 cents
chefdave12118 said:
Sounds like OP is just pissed he's a 1.5'er. And don't ever compare a pure android experience to an iPhone. Shame on you
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You get a thanks just for stating that "don't ever compare" part.
My 2 cents on this, I switch between Sense and custom LAUNCHERS often, tried Nemus Launcher, Go Launcher and ADW in the past. Can't say which is the best. Never had a custom ROM so far so can't compare performance under Sense with performance on custom ROMs, but I'd imagine the customs would run faster without all the Sense bloatware.
At the moment, I'm just waiting for ICS upgrade, after which I'll unlock, root and back up the NAND for Sense 4.0... and then on to get some custom ROM goodness hehe!
I hate Sense. I like HTC devices.
Sense is bloated and totally inefficient. It's also locked down in too many ways.
I prefer ADW Launcher + Android Pro Widgets. I feel it's snappier with more customization options, and it doesn't affect my battery life.
I go from an HTC Sense ROM to a Senseless ROM and my battery life goes through the roof.
Because it sucks?
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I used to downright despise sense, but that's because HTC put a bloated, slow operating system on a really slow phone (I'm talking about the HTC Hero CDMA here, my first android). The only ROMs I ever ran on my Hero were CM6 and CM7 nightlies because those were the only ROMs my phone could handle without lagging way behind me (i.e. on sense, I could type fast enough on my hero that I'd get multiple words ahead of what the screen was displaying).
HOWEVER I've fallen in love with sense now that I have my Evo 3D, because the hardware is so much better in this phone that the phone can actually handle running it's own OS smoothly now.
ICS is pretty awesome from the few ICS ROMs I've tried, but I'm sticking with sense for stability, a working camera, and the battery life (I'm running infectedROM eternity and the battery life is amazing on that ROM)
I love sense WOULDN'T BUY AN HTC MOBILE WITHOUT IT.

[Discussion] Sense versus AOSP Perspectives

This discussion started as a question in one of the CM10 threads asking how users that want an AOSP experience over HTC Sense as a daily driver wound up with the Evo 3D. It then began evolving into a debate about Sense versus AOSP so I thought it would be a good idea to move it out of that thread. Please keep it civil here or I'm sure the mods will close this thread, as I would expect them to do.
I'll start off by saying I really don't mind Sense and like the direction it has taken with the 4.x releases, so I don't consider it a compromise to run Sense ROM's to take advantage of more features of the Evo 3D. OTOH, I like to run AOSP ROM's to see what future versions of Android are bringing to our devices, and the simplicity of the AOSP interface is a pleasant change of pace, not to mention things like ParanoidAndroid that aren't available for Sense ROM's.
Here's another Sense user's experience using AOSP.
I'm not sure yet what my next device will be which is one of the reasons I'm interested in this discussion. If everyone else has heard enough in the CM10 thread already, just ignore this one and it will go away in a day or two.
ramjet73
In terms of look and design, AOSP>Sense (graphic designer here). Sense may look flashy and "poppy" but it's the same look that HTC incorporated with in the original WinMo version of sense known as TouchFlo back in 2008 I believe. Back then, this style was all the craze and was fitting for it's time, hence the design style of iOS on the original iPhone, which has also not changed. But that was nearly five years ago, and design style and standards have changed. Google has done a great job of keeping up to date with design by keeping things "clean" by minimizing fake shadows, gradients, and object that are given false dimension. In my opinion, Windows Phone is designed extremely well and is, in some ways, setting the standard on UI design, just look at how it carried that look over to Windows 8 and what MySpace's new look is like. It's all about simplicity. As a graphic designer, I cannot stand the look of Sense; it's dated and overly designed. But unfortunately, I bet that HTC (just like Apple) won't reconsider a major UI overhaul do to recognizability and brand association with Sense. All of this is just just my personal opinion though, and each is entitled their own
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Scotty_Two said:
In terms of look and design, AOSP>Sense (graphic designer here). Sense may look flashy and "poppy" but it's the same look that HTC incorporated with in the original WinMo version of sense known as TouchFlo back in 2008 I believe. Back then, this style was all the craze and was fitting for it's time, hence the design style of iOS on the original iPhone, which has also not changed. But that was nearly five years ago, and design style and standards have changed. Google has done a great job of keeping up to date with design by keeping things "clean" by minimizing fake shadows, gradients, and object that are given false dimension. In my opinion, Windows Phone is designed extremely well and is, in some ways, setting the standard on UI design, just look at how it carried that look over to Windows 8 and what MySpace's new look is like. It's all about simplicity. As a graphic designer, I cannot stand the look of Sense; it's dated and overly designed. But unfortunately, I bet that HTC (just like Apple) won't reconsider a major UI overhaul do to recognizability and brand association with Sense. All of this is just just my personal opinion though, and each is entitled their own
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i think i have to agree with that, sense is just too much trying to be accomplished graphically on a 4inch phone. yeah the animations are nice, but they arent worth slowing down your phone. you have a phone to do the things you need it to do, the rest is just bonus.
then again, im also a person who uses the classic theme on windows 7 despite having a decent computer to run aero and still run tons of programs at once.
last point, google has come a long way and you're finally able to see that when they released gingerbread. sense 3.0 w/ gingerbread was probably the last sense that i liked that was released otr for our phones because gingerbread was just repulsive. sense 4.0 i love because it's cleaner than the previous, and really snappy. but it's still sense and you get tired of it.
htc makes solid phones, but their os is starting to turn me away. but until samsung makes phones that arent plastic. ill forever use my 3vo and flash aosp roms.
It's funny how everyone on HTC phones hates sense (except me and a few others), yet people on samsung and LG beg for sense...
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Let me throw this out for the people that prefer the AOSP look.
Given the changes in the Sense 4.x versions is HTC Sense still salvageable as an enhancement to AOSP or should HTC scrap it and convert it's widgets, which seem to be the most popular part of Sense, to work with Trebuchet and other launchers?
If HTC actually builds a Nexus phone, we may get a chance to vote with our dollars (or whatever currency you use).
ramjet73
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It's funny how everyone on HTC phones hates sense (except me and a few others), yet people on samsung and LG beg for sense...
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Man I am a die hard sense fan in my mind I don't think nothing else compares to it
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I got the evo 3D because I though sense was awesome. After a month I got bored and missed AOSP sooo much
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Reason why I bought the EVO was for sense, always liked it always will
( Don't ask me for help, as I couldn't care if your phone explodes, eh!!!)
I originally got the evo 3d because at the time I thought sense 3.0 was awsome it looked cool as hell. As well as it was one of the best phones sprint carried at the time. But then after a month or so I couldn't stand it and I went on the search for aosp or as close to it as I could get. My next device will definitely be a nexus device. Not only because I dislike sense at this point but because of the hell we went through waiting for ics and source code.
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Sense is "pretty" and ya all the ROMs have working cam but aosp just has so much more freedom. Only time I'm rocking sense is when I'm taking a pic
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As others have said, first off, I like the "tweakability" of AOSP when compared to sense. Much more freedom to do what I want and this expands with CM, AOKP, and other special builds.
Second, the simplicity and streamlining of AOSP is *far* superior to anything that sense has to offer. I'm not a graphic designer, but I am a photographer so I'd say that, at the very least, I have an eye for the aesthetics of things around me. AOSP, in its newer iterations (namely, ICS and AOSP - since the new standards were introduced) has a ridiculous amount of polish and aesthetic appeal when compared to pretty much any other Android offering.
I understand that aesthetics are a completely subjective thing. A lot of people here seem to like very flashy stuff - gold-themed roms, animated 3d spinning boot screens, really bright colors, outrageous text, biohazard signs, etc. That's not my cup-of-tea personally, but if you're into that stuff I can see why you might not like AOSP.
Finally, It was incredibly hard to predict exactly what would happen concerning our phones and AOSP. When I picked up my Evo 3D, I was a huge fan of HTC hardware after owning a Mytouch 3G as my first android phone and having it survive two large water accidents. I assumed that great devs would eventually get AOSP working on it and I was ok living with Sense until that happened.
Nothing against Sense, I'm sure there are plenty of reasons for people to like it, but I've spent over a year with both (I very recently switched back to AOSP on my 3D) and I heavily prefer AOSP.
I like sense its not horrible. and the things I've seen done with it through chubbzs ports of 4.0 and 4.1 But I've had sense for quite awhile and I like the simplicity and tweakage of aosp Aokp cm and CnA. It's just different and I'm looking for something different. I know sense is going to be more stable and more functional but I'm willing to deal with a much less stable Rom just for something different. It makes my phone feel like a new phone and its a little smoother IMO
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I'm definitely not married to Sense anymore. When I first got my Evo 4G I really liked it, but once 4G was implemented into AOSP I flashed it and ran AOSP for months. Only going back to Sense once in a while. My Old EVO 4G is back on a Sense ROM though, Karma 7.7.7 (if I remember it right.)
Sense 4 is much sleeker and faster and I wish it was complete. If things weren't broken, I would be all over a Sense 4 ROM. But, I'd do the same on AOSP if there was a complete build of that. Ultimately, that is what keeps me on 3.6. Not it's style, look, how bloated it is (and it does have some heft.) But the fact that everything works, I can't stand not having everything worked that I paid for, whether I use them daily or not.
i liked sense 3.0 when it first came out. it was new and cool. it's still ok to be honest. but i miss AOSP. the newer versions of sense are nice as well but i just refuse to sacrifice 4G. i dont really mind losing 3D. never really used it. and i know 4G doesnt really work on any AOSP roms either. so i just desensify sense based roms to get as close to AOSP as i can. i was using CM9 on an old Droid X i inherited and i loved it. i wish we had a fully functioning CM build....
I really like Sense and I really like AOSP. (especially since ICS) the only possible way to ever choose between both was to own an HTC Device running sense. So that's what I've done since the Hero days. (Granite you needed AOSP for that device)
You can't buy a nexus device, and expect to get Sense on it, but you can buy a Sense device and get AOSP ROM's for it.
I like both, and the ability to choose. That's why I chose the EVO 3D (and HTC phones in general)
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I really like Sense and I really like AOSP. (especially since ICS) the only possible way to ever choose between both was to own an HTC Device running sense. So that's what I've done since the Hero days. (Granite you needed AOSP for that device)
You can't buy a nexus device, and expect to get Sense on it, but you can buy a Sense device and get AOSP ROM's for it.
I like both, and the ability to choose. That's why I chose the EVO 3D (and HTC phones in general)
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That's actually a really good way to look at it. You can get both on HTC and you can't anywhere else. I don't see many people clammering for TouchWiz on an LG. lol
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That's actually a really good way to look at it. You can get both on HTC and you can't anywhere else. I don't see many people clammering for TouchWiz on an LG. lol
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this may sound bad.....
but i actually would like to see touchwiz on an htc device one day. i just wanna experience touchwiz for like a week or so without having to buy a plastic contain to hold all my phone's parts
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this may sound bad.....
but i actually would like to see touchwiz on an htc device one day. i just wanna experience touchwiz for like a week or so without having to buy a plastic contain to hold all my phone's parts
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There's a rom with touchwiz on the og evo .. I actually liked it when I had my og evo a few months back
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this may sound bad.....
but i actually would like to see touchwiz on an htc device one day. i just wanna experience touchwiz for like a week or so without having to buy a plastic contain to hold all my phone's parts
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Have at it!
Here's a port of the Galaxy S3 version that's been tested with ICS on the Evo 3D and here's an overview of the S3 version.
If you Google around a bit you should be able to find some TouchWiz widgets as well.
ramjet73
I like sense but it is heavy and uses more battery compared to aosp. I like aosp too and I prefer it! Is more light, smooth and I like the android grapich
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Anyone come from a Galaxy Nexus or Nexus 4 (or AOSP)?

My only Android experience has been pure Android on Nexus devices (not including briefly playing with friend's Moto, Samsungs and HTCs).
I'm currently on a N4 and contemplating getting the One. Having never even seen it in person, I'm sold on the hardware.
It's the software I'm worried about. I am running custom AOSP ROMs and kernels based on 4.2.2 but mostly keeping it close to stock.
How has the adjustment to Sense and Blinkfeed been?
Install Nova or Apex lancher and a settings toggle app from the play store and you won't notice TOO much difference.
Was on the nexus 4i have no regrets
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My only Android experience has been pure Android on Nexus devices (not including briefly playing with friend's Moto, Samsungs and HTCs).
I'm currently on a N4 and contemplating getting the One. Having never even seen it in person, I'm sold on the hardware.
It's the software I'm worried about. I am running custom AOSP ROMs and kernels based on 4.2.2 but mostly keeping it close to stock.
How has the adjustment to Sense and Blinkfeed been?
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I got the one on Saturday from best buy with intentions on trading it out for the s4 upon release. I'm keeping it. I just really like the device. I'm still keeping my Nexus 4 though.
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My only Android experience has been pure Android on Nexus devices (not including briefly playing with friend's Moto, Samsungs and HTCs).
I'm currently on a N4 and contemplating getting the One. Having never even seen it in person, I'm sold on the hardware.
It's the software I'm worried about. I am running custom AOSP ROMs and kernels based on 4.2.2 but mostly keeping it close to stock.
How has the adjustment to Sense and Blinkfeed been?
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I have REAL issues with TouchWiz and the Galaxy phones so much that I have to immediately put CM10 or something on it. However, with the One I don't feel the need AT ALL. It's flat, nicely designed. Nothing is there for fluff really. Icons even look great. Heck, I'm still just running the stock Sense launcher too. I have no inklings to go back to the Nexus 4. However, I am keeping it (for the time being) until at least Google I/O, because I'm sure I'll get an itch once we see KLP.
Not quite an Nexus device but..
I came from a HOX with AOKP 4.2.2 by Rohan, so take this for what it is I guess. I actually like Sense 5 a lot compared to Sense 4. HTC did a good job keeping this "close" to stock Android this time. It's pretty snappy and I haven't really thought about AOSP other than the fact that Sense5 as of current is based on 4.1.2 and I came from 4.2.2. I'm missing my lock screen widgets and quick tiles/notifications
Other than that, I haven't really looked back as of yet.
i was on the nexus 4, i did some clean up on the UI of the HTC one and love it now. The double battery life is better too.

Hard to believe, liking Sense 6 over GPE

I have had my One M8 two weeks now, LOVING this phone, and one of the selling points to me personally, was the ablity to go flash the GPE Nexus type ROM, and not be stuck on Sense. And I am a huge Nexus stock Android fan, having owned the Nexus-One, Nexus-S, Galaxy Nexus, and Nexus 4, but after the N4 I moved on to Samsung's Note 2, and then Galaxy S4. So last experience with stock Android was 4.1 Jellybean, haven't played with any Kit Kat builds before.
Long story short, I am liking Sense 6 way more than GPE's Kit Kat 4.4.2. and I never would have thought or expected that in a million years, being such a long time Nexus fan. I tried out two different GPE ROMs this week, and certain things in stock Kit Kat I can't stand.
- #1 the Phone dialer / Contacts, wow those suck now, why did Google change the Phone app they've had since ICS 4.0 ? I use my phone a lot to actually make calls, this new new Dialer sucks, and the Contacts is super bright white and very plane, really no features on it. I have read that a whole new Phone dialer app is coming in a upcoming 4.4.3 update. But I miss the awesome Phone app from 4.0 to 4.3, which was all Black with blue numbers, and swipe to to the right to go to contacts, etc...
- #2 the icon sizes are gigantic, like crazy huge, can't fit much on the home screen, I know a Launcher gets rid of that, but sometimes I like to run bone stock, and with those giant icons it looks weird and silly.
- #3 Battery life is definitely worse than a Sense based ROM, by a good amount IMO. My Sense based ROMs were giving me crazy good battery life, like 6h to 7h On Screen time, and total battery life of 24+ hours easily. These two GPE ROMs I tired, would only give like 4h to 5h On screen time, and maybe 15 hours total battery life.
- #4 Speed. I was always under the impression that stock Android was way faster than a UI like Sense or Touchwiz. The Sense 6 ROMs I was running were super fast and silky smooth. The GPE ROMs were also pretty quick too, but no way did not feel any faster than Sense. Just going off my own personal use, it felt like Sense was the faster UI. My point being, stock GPE Android was NOT faster or smoother, no. It was a tie, and if anything Sense won by a hair.
- #5 The look of the UI. Sense 6 has a really cool black / white / blue theme going on, and flat design, it looks really professional, and minimalistic, just smartly designed and well thought out. Where stock Kit Kat is starting to look like a Hodge podge of old Ice Cream Sandwich mixed together with the newer Google Now cards stuff, it's like stock Android can't make up it's mind, is it still Holo themed, or going for the new lighter Card style ? The menu still looks the same as from the Galaxy Nexus from 2011, but other parts look very fresh and totally different. I think we need Android 5.0 to usher in a new uniform design theme for stock Android.
To wrap this up, I am no HTC fan boy, my last HTC was the EVO 4G way back from 2010. I am really more of a Nexus stock Android guy, I guess I just don't like the Kit Kat updates from Jellybean. I was very satisfied with Jellybean. And this Sense 6 blew me away, really shocked I actually like it better than stock Android. It looks great, is smartly designed and laid out, and is super smooth / fast, with insanely good battery life. Next stock Android phone or ROM I'll run will be to wait for at least 4.4.3, and most likely the next big update with the HTC Nexus-Six this Fall.
I agree with you so much about the phone dialer on gpe. I had this on my nexus 5 and hated it. What were they thinking. There are so many people who love it too, but its just not for me. You can change your dpi to make icons a lot smaller on stock launcher. Looks really nice at 370 instead of 480. I prefer sense too.
I am on my third GPE ROM now. This time running the official real ROM. Let's see how I like this ?
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I am on my third GPE ROM now. This time running the official real ROM. Let's see how I like this ?
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Im in the same exact position , battery life on gpe was sad compare to the sense im on golden eye right now , waiting for dev to updaye the gpe cauz i heard that an update was coming to dev edition to add the extreme power save option , we'll see
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/05/02/htc-one-m8-extreme-power-saving-mode/
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Back to InsertCoin Sense 6 based ROM, and feels like home on this phone. Just so silky smooth, with insanely good battery life. Plus running Nova launcher + icon pack, doesn't even look like a Sense phone now, but it's all Sense running behind the scenes giving me the excellent battery life and stability.
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I am on my third GPE ROM now. This time running the official real ROM. Let's see how I like this ?
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I need the original since I didn't backup mine! Where can I find it? I'm on an AT&T M8.
I would appreciate the help. TIA.
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in my pre HTC One days I tried a bunch of different roms on my various Motorola & Samsung phones, but always ended up back with either CyanogenMod or a variant of CM.
With this phone all I have really done is root, S-Off and remove some bloat and CarrierIQ.
Otherwise it's stock. I can't find a compelling reason to change.. Hell, I was even rocking the stock launcher for a couple of weeks. Didn't really mind it. I'm back to Nova for a bit just to see if I really do like it that much more. Can't decide!
i agree. coming from my my Google Play Edition. the m8 and Sense just gives you so much more without sacrificing any performance.
Always ran asop roms on my Samsung's. Coming from the gs5's touchgizz this is just so nice. Got this so I could flash again and I don't need too. Stock sense it's beautiful.
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Absolutely agree, loving sense 6. Only two things that drive me crazy are the vertical scrolling in the app drawer, which is fixed with a launcher, and the haptic feedback seems very very weak to me when pressing things like the keyboard and the on-screen navigation keys.
Back and forth between Sense ROM's and GPE, but Sense 6 just looks more consistent, and a very professional layout, overall a very beautiful and minimalistic UI, that looks great on this LCD screen. I love the black theme throughout, with white backgrounds, and I have a simple theme installed, named InsertCoin Blue, it replaces all green stuff with blue.
I just found GPE and stock Android to look like a hodgepodge now, and I am a huge Nexus guy. But certain areas in stock Android, look dated like from ICS 4.0 with dark grey holo theme, mixed with the new Kit Kat lighter card theme. Making Android look like a mix of old and new.
I think Google needs a solid consistent theme in Android 5.0, which I am sure it will be. But for now I find Sense 6 to looks the best, and very clean and simple, as well as butter smooth IMO.
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Back and forth between Sense ROM's and GPE, but Sense 6 just looks more consistent, and a very professional layout, overall a very beautiful and minimalistic UI, that looks great on this LCD screen. I love the black theme throughout, with white backgrounds, and I have a simple theme installed, named InsertCoin Blue, it replaces all green stuff with blue.
I just found GPE and stock Android to look like a hodgepodge now, and I am a huge Nexus guy. But certain areas in stock Android, look dated like from ICS 4.0 with dark grey holo theme, mixed with the new Kit Kat lighter card theme. Making Android look like a mix of old and new.
I think Google needs a solid consistent theme in Android 5.0, which I am sure it will be. But for now I find Sense 6 to looks the best, and very clean and simple, as well as butter smooth IMO.
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Especially after the update yesterday, I find no compelling reason to even bother with a custom rom. I'm rooted with S-Off, and the only mods I have done are the Harmon Kardon mod, plus custom bootup/down splash screens..
Otherwise I'm bone stock and loving it.
Long time Samsung user here so I ran just about every type of ROM there is and I'll have to say that I agree. Never thought I'd be satisfied with stock firmware but HTC got sense 6 right spot on with aesthetics, functionality and battery. Naturally, I've rooted and s-offed but I don't plan on changing it up any time soon. Been a long long time since I've had a glitch free user experience
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I agree I've tried all different kinds of ROMS. I presently use ACR V2.2. Not sure if it's available on AT&T variant or not as I have VZW.
It's stock Sense with ALL bloat removed. I think he presently has it down to a size of 381mb on V2.6. It's simple, runs smooth, and gets decent battery life. I used Sense toolbox 6 to customize the status bar a bit and a few other small mods, I also use nova launcher so I can customize icons. Although I will admit he's made changes that I'm not happy with newer versions as to why I'm still on V2.2. I've also replaced standard Google apps with dark black replacements where I could and use dark apps where I can. I like dark themes.
Either way guys it's worth checking out if you like slim and minimalistic Sense 6. It's the nice thing about it, it gives you a nice base ROM that you can mod or not to your liking.
Not knocking other ROMS & the hard work that goes into them but they go way over the top with way too many options and unneeded stuff IMO.
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Yea sense 6 is amazing. Especially coming from touchwiz. From samsung, it was an out of the box as soon as I get home flash of aosp but sense is amazing and has some nice features and a beautiful feel and look to it. I'm really enjoying it coupled with xposed mod modules
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I tried the gpe rom and the quadrant score consistently hovered around 17500 vs the 24000 on sense 6.
What gives?
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Samsung TW user for awhile here .... And I gotta say that I'm impressed with sense 6 nice and zero LAG .... So far I'm loving this M8. ....
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Tried GPE with full converson.. tried custom sense roms along with sense 6 tool box and Venom Tweaks..
There is really no compelling reason for me to use a custom rom..There are clear performance benefits to using an odexed rom.. and when it comes to that.. nothing beats stock sense 6.
So I flashed the RUU.. and my phone is not even rooted.. Sense 6 I think is a little bit more consistent and smooth than stock (can't believe I'm saying it.. but I think it's true).
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Absolutely agree, loving sense 6. Only two things that drive me crazy are the vertical scrolling in the app drawer, which is fixed with a launcher, and the haptic feedback seems very very weak to me when pressing things like the keyboard and the on-screen navigation keys.
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Totally agree about the vertical scrolling as well as the black background in the app drawer (instead of it being a bit semitransparent ).
Totally agree. Am currently on GPE and I get routinely frustrated due to some functionality that's missing. For example, in the notification drawer, touching the WiFi button takes me to the settings menu. In sense, it just turns off the WiFi (which I want)!
The settings menu in sense also has so many more options than GPE its actually easier than having fewer options as in GPE. Overall, Sense wins by a significant margin for me both from a usability standpoint and general awesomeness

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