I have installed RAM Booster and ZD Box(task killer) to help free up RAM, however i feel that the RAM usage on my x10 is still too high.
On average the free RAM on my phone is between 40MB -60MB, is that normal?
My question is how else can i free RAM on my phone? will installing apps to SD Card help? Also my internal memory widget is reading "414MB used out of 465MB" thats sound too high. my phone feels laggy and ive even stopped using live wallpapers, sumtimes the phone would even reboot on its own but hasnt done so in a while.
if u install too much apps without using app2sd, its normal to have that amount of ram.. i recommend u to use link2sd, u can manually select apps to move to sd. bt make sure that dont move any widget apps to sdcard or else it will stop functioning and appearing in ur widget list
I use Advanced Task Killer, from the market.
That being said, Android naturally will kill processes and apps. It waits for a certain amount of time, or until the resources are needed elsewhere. You shouldn't have to wory about how much free ram you have available... Unlike Windows, Android will manage it all on it's own!
khakhi said:
I have installed RAM Booster and ZD Box(task killer) to help free up RAM, however i feel that the RAM usage on my x10 is still too high.
On average the free RAM on my phone is between 40MB -60MB, is that normal?
My question is how else can i free RAM on my phone? will installing apps to SD Card help? Also my internal memory widget is reading "414MB used out of 465MB" thats sound too high. my phone feels laggy and ive even stopped using live wallpapers, sumtimes the phone would even reboot on its own but hasnt done so in a while.
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Use auto memory manager free from market
Requires root and when set to aggressive free ram great
Doesn't eat battery as it isnt a task killer
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to OP i wish i am a mod so i can move your post to Q&A thread.. geezzzzz
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I use Advanced Task Killer, from the market.
That being said, Android naturally will kill processes and apps. It waits for a certain amount of time, or until the resources are needed elsewhere. You shouldn't have to wory about how much free ram you have available... Unlike Windows, Android will manage it all on it's own!
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then y does my phone feel laggy if u say android will manage processes on its own? im going to try "link2sd" now and see how it goes.
Free RAM is wasted RAM, why don't people get that?
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Free RAM is wasted RAM, why don't people get that?
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not if it's causing his phone to reboot and have problems because he is using it all...
xcxa23 said:
if u install too much apps without using app2sd, its normal to have that amount of ram.. i recommend u to use link2sd, u can manually select apps to move to sd. bt make sure that dont move any widget apps to sdcard or else it will stop functioning and appearing in ur widget list
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link2sd is telling me i need to partition my sd fisrt and im not sure how to, im going to try apps2ds
First i don't this is a place to post such question, there is a section called Q&A.
Second, i recommend using AutoKiller Memory Optimizer, it's super amazing and very essential app for me. I get usually more than 100 MB free RAM most of the time, and it's easy customizable, after your read the help section.
Give it a try
it wouldnt be a lack of memory causing a phone to reboot but the app w memory leaks causing the phone to reboot. the apps youre killing werent designed for you to kill them unexpectedly. they were designed to run any necessary cleanup routines on exit. if the app youre killing doesnt have an option to exit, then you should replace it w one that does or ask the author to provide an exit/close for the app to free itself from the list of running processes.
you're introducing dirty unintended states for the apps and the os by killing them unexpectedly. you will have immediate gains in performance and will gain unexpected problems when those same apps go to run later. lost widgets, widget data, duplicate widgets, or maybe even break an app that wasnt designed to open from a dirty state.
keep an eye on the tasks, but leave them alone if you can.
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First i don't this is a place to post such question, there is a section called Q&A.
Second, i recommend using AutoKiller Memory Optimizer, it's super amazing and very essential app for me. I get usually more than 100 MB free RAM most of the time, and it's easy customizable, after your read the help section.
Give it a try
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Thanx guys will try it...
to op, i think u better try the autokiller 1st. because the link2sd and app2sd need to make partition.
1st make a fat32
2nd make a ext2
size of partition 2 put less than 1gb, i assuming u having a 8gb class 2 sdcard
the rest of it goes to fat32
ps : this require u to format ur sdcard. so make sure u backup it up in ur pc
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link2sd is telling me i need to partition my sd fisrt and im not sure how to, im going to try apps2ds
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Apps2sd needs partition as well... try a partitioning program and make a main fat32 partition and then a second one ext2 partition (i suggest 1gig max should be more than enough)
You don't want to free up ram. It messes with your phone. Your suppose to use ram
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Get rid of the task killer and get AutoKiller Memory Management. I went from ~35mb free to ~135mb by changing the last 3 settings to 150, 200, 250 and never need to kill anything
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i use automatic task killer and it works pretty good for me...
Hi, i recommend the app "Taskiller Full" from AxDroid LLC ( i dont know if the free version is the same ) when i kill apps get a 150-200 free ram
do NOT use task killers. all you will succeed in doing is to use MORE battery. Andoid (which is linux based) is designed to have very little free memory. The way android handles application and memory use is it keeps frequently launched apps in memory so they launch quicker. if a task comes along that requires resources android will simply ditch the reserved memory (that is reserved in case you launch a particular app that is in memory) and will allow it to be utilised for the new app. as has been said 1000's of times before, free ram is wasted ram!
all a task killer will do is to fight against the native android instruction set, each time android attempts to launch a process into ram the task killer will kill it, and each time this happens it will chew a bit more battery life.
having a lack of ram is not necessarily the reason your handset is lagging.....the perceived lack of ram is only because it is earmarked for potential use.
my advise to you? just leave it be, maybe reboot your handset a bit more frequently, and remove some of the apps that you have installed that are fighting against android!
good luck!
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Free RAM is wasted RAM, why don't people get that?
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+++ exactly, let your phone do the thinking! (bump)
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I have searched on numerous fronts but have never found the solution to my problem. The issue is, on the vibrant I have 2 GB internal memory for app installation, with 512 mb ram (I think) to run the apps, in addition to 16 GB of internal storage for files and what not.
However, having 1.4 GB 'app' memory free currently, whenever I install any further apps, some of the existing apps start to crash/restart whenever I need to use them. For example, I use LPP, and when I install some more apps on the phone, LPP homescreen icons disappear whatever action I do (open an app, use an app, etc), and then they reload for about 15-20 seconds when I go to the homescreen again. I have about 35-55 MB RAM free at any given time.
My question is, why give 2 GB app installation memory when you still cannot use it to install apps since they start giving you all sort of problems? I am running stock t-mobile eclair and have recently rooted my phone.
you know what, i think all you need is a task killer or clean your phone or something.. just find a way to free up some space.. 35-55MB is hella low.
Hmm, whats the normal free ram for stock 2.1 vibrant supposed to be? I have not tinkered around with my phone much so am wondering how it could have gotten low to that extent. All the apps that I use are also well known and from reputable developers...
Got any clues?
dunno when i was running 2.1 i was always at 80-120 free range with apps running..
try getting a task killer and kill all running apps..
also check settings > applications > running services > tap and kill processes you dont need running
This still does not answer my question about why there is 2 GB of app memory available...? regardless of RAM..?
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This still does not answer my question about why there is 2 GB of app memory available...? regardless of RAM..?
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Incase people want 2 gigs worth of apps? and if i remember right you have 16gigs storage and then 2gigs of that is partitioned for apps
ionic7 said:
Incase people want 2 gigs worth of apps? and if i remember right you have 16gigs storage and then 2gigs of that is partitioned for apps
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Yeah, but then what about what I wrote in my first post? It does not make sense if you can 'theoretically' install 2 GB worth of apps but renders the phone useless in function?
Anyone who is actually using close to 2 GB worth of memory for apps on vibrant/Galaxy S?? Would love to hear what you have to say.
hello!why on the specifications of neo says that there is a 512MB ram and we have available only 335MB??that is very sad....the ram is barely enough for the applications i use and most of the times it reaches the limit....if there was 512MB it would be all fine..
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hello!why on the specifications of neo says that there is a 512MB ram and we have available only 335MB??that is very sad....the ram is barely enough for the applications i use and most of the times it reaches the limit....if there was 512MB it would be all fine..
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I think that's with storage for system apps incuded. you need to root your phone to use the other part.
i have my phone rooted.....what do you mean?can i do something to have more ram?the internal storage of the device is 380MB....the RAM is 335MB....
Share memory for GPU.
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Share memory for GPU.
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And point is....?
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i think you can do something with app2sd+, but i don't know how...
You can use built in app2sd. Settings-applications-manage apps-choose some app and "move to sd"
Or if you are rooted simply delete bloatware and etc
Regards!
Taavi
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maybe you didn't understand my question....I don't have the problem with the internal memory(cause I can move apps to SD)but with RAM....the applications I run simultaneously reach the ram to the limit and the side effect when that happens is that the phone becomes laggy because of restarting some applications to release ram...
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maybe you didn't understand my question....I don't have the problem with the internal memory(cause I can move apps to SD)but with RAM....the applications I run simultaneously reach the ram to the limit and the side effect when that happens is that the phone becomes laggy because of restarting some applications to release ram...
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Are you using Dolphin Browser too?
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no,i use opera mobile...but the apps i want to use is talkdroid for live messenger,viber for free calls,accuweather and smart app protector....these are the standard opened apps that run and shown on the notification bar...but if i open something like gallery,camera,opera etc most of the times when i close the app i used last time and return to home screen,the icons seem to disappear and reappear,something like reseting...that time the phone is very slow and laggy...
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no,i use opera mobile...but the apps i want to use is talkdroid for live messenger,viber for free calls,accuweather and smart app protector....these are the standard opened apps that run and shown on the notification bar...but if i open something like gallery,camera,opera etc most of the times when i close the app i used last time and return to home screen,the icons seem to disappear and reappear,something like reseting...that time the phone is very slow and laggy...
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If you are already rooted i can suppose only that:
1. Lookup your ALL apps, clean cashe and dalvik
2. Remove bloatware system/app
3. Move most importants apps to system/app folder
4.After. clean rom install you had about 60mb space in system/app partitiond. after cleaning about 100 no needed bloatware app you had in system/app partitions more 150+mb free spce.
5. REBOOT is sometime useful.
6. Dont use task killers, cashe cleaner 3rd part apps.
7.No need complain about so small ram, rom,memory...you had alot memory, ram etc.....USE IT RIGHT WAY.
8. Have nice day!
Cheers!
Taavi
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RAM is 512MB but shared for GPU so just 335Mb available for users.
Similarly S galaxy, 512MB ram but just 330MB available for users.
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sry for my eng
you can change,remove unnecessary app on your system. and at the data/app.... just organized it....
I use 200MB swap file and 98 swappiness setting in Urukconfig.But it use RAM in most time and seldom use swap.Is this because the Swap file is in internal storage but not in a fast SD card ?I`ve got a micro SDHC (class10) 4GB and I want to format it into 2parts.One is used as swap partition.The other one is a FAT or NTFS filesystem.But I don`t know What is the name of the 2 parts in /dev.One more question,can swap partition be a EXT3 or EXT4?
Thank you for reply.My English is not good.Sorry~~
What did u use to "measure" the free memory? How does it affect u?
In general u have to know that android does not have the windows like "free memory" as it tries to keep as much apps in "background" as possible. To load em faster at next startup.
Many programs have the strange behaviour to have several listeners to startup every once a while or they even load at startup. You can check this with "Autorun Maganger"
With "Task Manager" you can see what apps are currently running. You will be surprised what apps are loaded right after startup - even u never started em
Anyway having "low" memory at runtime isn't to bad normaly - as android will kill unused apps to free memory if needed. Just if the value is permanent under about 35MB the system will get sluggish.
Regarding your swap: "I use 200MB swap file and 98 swappiness"
Sounds heavily wrong to me. As the CPU will be permanently use for swapping apps and will slow down your device meanwhile...
The problem of android and swap is that active processes (like widgets, services, the running program) can't be swapped. Swap just gets u the ability to hold inactive apps in memory to load up faster at next startup. (if u want to know more about it read about the "life cycle" of android apps on google) But since they are on a VERY slow memory compared to RAM the reload process actualy isn't that much faster...
Try reading the Tweak guide in my signature to learn more about memory management.
Before, I got the same issue like this so I used Autorun Manager to manage some auto startup and backround running apps but It didnt work. Now I find an other solution. That is TiTan Backup Pro. I use TiTan to freeze some apps that always appear in backruond running apps like Market, Fring, Textfree...
Although It takes more time but It may save the battery and ram. Dont worry about the next time when u need to use these freezed apps because every times u freeze an app, u can defrost it immediately. So that app will not run at backround until u run that app again.
That the way Im using to save battery and ram
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Before, I got the same issue like this so I used Autorun Manager to manage some auto startup and backround running apps but It didnt work. Now I find an other solution. That is TiTan Backup Pro. I use TiTan to freeze some apps that always appear in backruond running apps like Market, Fring, Textfree...
Although It takes more time but It may save the battery and ram. Dont worry about the next time when u need to use these freezed apps because every times u freeze an app, u can defrost it immediately. So that app will not run at backround until u run that app again.
That the way Im using to save battery and ram
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Yeah thats what i use to do - but u have to check with autorun manager before to know wich apps to "frost"
Thank u very much
256MB RAM is too little.
I'm running dagr8s alpha 2 ics rom. And I know that it has lower ram than the gb roms. But lately I have been running Tasker (amazing app btw) numbers and it keeps notifying me that I have low ram and it might not work properly. I go to applications in settings and check my ram and it says I only have 98mb free. I end all tasks and clear ram and then still I have like 120-130 free. I'm afraid that this is a too low amount. And wanted your opinions on what I should do. Is this enough should I just ignore the warnings will Tasker still run fine? How can I get more ram? Are any of you also experiencing low ram?
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Taller uses ram also. I run trebuchet launcher on alpha 2 and have no real issues. If it gets slow you can hold home and clear things out. Running a lot of widgets still affect ram also.
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If you go to developer options in settings at the bottom and select the background processes and set it to 3 processes at most that helps alot...also if u change ur dalvik heap to 64 that also helps a ton...DO NOT and I repeat do not set it below 64 as u will soft brick your phone
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You must understand how Android uses memory, it loads your frequentlyused programs into ram so when you go to use them, they open much faster than if they would if they had to open "fresh" each time.the lmk (low memory killer) should take care of everything if you ate currently using a process that uses a lot of memory it will kill off apps as it needs to.
Put simply: FREE RAM IS WASTED RAM.
Have a marine navigation program "Navionics USA EAST" that wouldn't open in ICS(leak and Saurom) unless I cleared RAM. No issue onstock GB, and runs fine on sgh-i777 ICS? Tried debloating leak, but didn't help much. Will try limiting running programs when back on ICS.
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Free Ram is wasted ram. Never thought about it like that. I understand but i would still like some free ram just so its available for other apps i open. I did use the task manager to kill running apps and clear ram and it didnt free up that much ram that is why i was worried.
Ill try limiting background proccess to .
Also how do i set dalvik heap to 64? And what exactly does this accomplish?
Thanks for the replies guys.
Yes set it to 3 processes at most. Task manaher killers r just crap dnt use them
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Welcome to ICS. This is exactly why I DONT like ICS - the memory footprint is huge just for ICS alone.
Free ram is not entirely wasted ram.
Let me explain.
So, my phone RAM is completely (or nearly) filled and I open a new app. There is now a long delay as Android goes to work closing app(s) down and doing garbage collection to free up memory for the new app I just tried to open but it only frees up enough for the one app I just opened.
And now, every app I go to open is going to have this long delay.
What you really want is about 80% ram usage - enough that there is free ram to open new apps without Android having to scurry around to free up a bunch of memory.
I dont know if there is a way to force a certain amount of ram to be free but imo, thats what youd really want.
I only have 6 user apps on my phone and Im running stock GB so even if I opened everything at once, there would be plenty of ram to have them open all at once (Go Launcher, Blue Skies (paid), Battery Power Widget, System Tuner Pro, BeyondPod, & Audible).
It's called "minfree memory," what you want is an app that will allow you to modify those values. Back when I had a Captivate, I used an app called AutoKiller for that purpose. I haven't needed it on the Note though. You can find it in the Android market.
Is it possible for apps to crash when the phone doesnt have enough free memory (RAM)?
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
How much RAM do you guys have available when running GB. The phone only sees 767Mb of RAM out of the 1Gb is that normal?
yea i think thats normal because the phone system uses some of that ram to make the phone work. Like if you ever had a sd card or an ipod that was say an 8gb ipod you actually only have like 7.66gb free.
But yeah I would like more ram availabe so the phone can load apps quickly and wont have to waste time closing stuff. I dont think free ram is wasted ram
As said before, Android uses ram differently since it based upon Linux. If the entire ROM runs around 600-800mB and most of it gets loaded into RAM, this will leave you with 400-200mB free RAM but the entire OS is already loaded and ready to go! Once you load a RAM intensive application, Android/Linux kernel will free space for that application.
I believe GPU consumes an excess of RAM to handle this beast's resolution/size.
I have to go back to GB. Delay in apps opening is getting old compared to i777 daily driver.
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Thanks for the info, guys.
If I root my S3 is it possible to make more ram available to me?
With all apps closed I have 650/780 being used so that only leaves me with 130mb of ram.
uf21 said:
If I root my S3 is it possible to make more ram available to me?
With all apps closed I have 650/780 being used so that only leaves me with 130mb of ram.
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Jesus. There's a huge panic now because the variant has 2 gigs of ram...
http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
You actually have more free, but the android has a lot of it saved for caching, etc. For example, Facebook takes 40 mb, but when I open it only like 5 or 10 mb of the ram shown as "available" is taken away because parts of it are actually open already.
But yes, if you root it, and a developer adjusts the Minfree to a large amount you will have more free but your phone will probably be slower.
Folks need to keep in mind, that keeping RAM free as you would with a Windows based OS, is NOT ideal in Android. Android uses RAM completely differently and it is perfectly okay for your phone to make use of RAM, even for apps you are not currently using.
There's a fair amount of documentation out there about this - do some Google-fu to deep dive further.
Actually I ask because when I was trying to send a picture in whatsapp it kept sayin "try again" but when I closed all tasks in multitask the picture did send. So I'm guessing it is a ram problem.
Also take it easy on Mr. This is my first android phone, I've been using iphone since the 3g and don't know nothing about android..... yet
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You don't really want to much free ram. If there is to much free ram it means apps are not going in to cache witch will mean really slow app loading times. 200-300mb free is ample for new apps to run, if the OS needs more then its auto memory management will come in to play to free up more if needed, android is a very smart peace of kit
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if anyone were to choose pre-caching order for faster load times ( usually just by seconds than non-pre-cached) to no random force closes because there is more free memory, they would chose more free memory.
but since the experts have already said android memory doesn't work the same way like windows does, then the best would be a balance between cache and free memory. right? right. that's where official updates and dev fixes come in.