Hey fellas.
I heard that the SGS II will support NextG without Telstra needing a new Phone just for them? I know it's 850 band, not sure if its GSM or what the go is though.
Anyone know if the regular SGS II will support NextG? I want to pre-order one but can't live without my NextG Coverage/Internet speeds.
Thankyou.
nextg is just a brand name for 3g umts...
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nextg is just a brand name for 3g umts...
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So it's UMTS 3g what Telstra uses? Do all Galaxy S II's support that do you know? Or will I have to wait for a Telstra specific version to be released like allways
youll have to check with telstra on what bands they are using, then check with your cellphone dealer if the sgs2 has those bands...
the european version of the sgs2 will have:
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
Mobocity.com.au state that the international version (all we're getting so far) is compatible with NextG (pretty much the same thing as the New Zealand Telecom XT network). They list it at AUD899.
k1000716 said:
Mobocity.com.au state that the international version (all we're getting so far) is compatible with NextG (pretty much the same thing as the New Zealand Telecom XT network). They list it at AUD899.
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Yeah. I allways deal through Mobicity, all of my mobiles have come from there.
But I can get it for ~$700 International. I was reading that all SGS II will have the required band for NextG. Not sure where I read it though, was awhile ago.
Might just go through Mobicity, I get Australian warranty then
That's the same reason I've pre-ordered through their NZ site.
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I've seen this blog.
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2011/04/12/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-umts-frequencies/
However, with our experience in the industry we have seen that almost every device launched in recent years within Europe has been ‘optimised’, with the American 850/1900 range locked down, leaving only 900/2100 for the rest of the world. As we are based in the UK it is for this reason we have taken the tentative step of advertising only these frequencies.
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yeah, UK clove store said EU galaxy S2 doesn't support US 850/1900
network. (They said that may be US 850/1900 UMTS frequencies are locked.)
But, I find google news.
http://www.mydaily-gadget.com/news/5718-att-getting-samsung-galaxy-s2-gt-i9100-fcc-says-i-do
Speaking about release dates we do not have a specific one for the GT-i9100 in the USA but we can confirm the FFC has authorized the use of this particular smart phone on the 850MHz and 1900MHz GSM frequencies which means the first carrier to offer the Samsung Galaxy S II might be AT&T. These two frequencies account for the AT&T 3G network but they also match some Canada operator’s frequencies so there is a big chance the Galaxy S II will land there too in the near future.
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Follow this news, EU galaxy S2 using US GSM 850/1900 networks.
Who is say that TRUE?
i'm very confused.
Quad band GSM 850/900/1800/1900
Source: http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxys2/html/specification.html
It should work.
apwhitelaw said:
Quad band GSM 850/900/1800/1900
Source: http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxys2/html/specification.html
It should work.
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So, only using ATT GSM network?
ATT UMTS network can't use?
Pulverizer said:
I've seen this blog.
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2011/04/12/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-umts-frequencies/
yeah, UK clove store said EU galaxy S2 doesn't support US 850/1900
network. (They said that may be US 850/1900 UMTS frequencies are locked.)
But, I find google news.
http://www.mydaily-gadget.com/news/5718-att-getting-samsung-galaxy-s2-gt-i9100-fcc-says-i-do
Follow this news, EU galaxy S2 using US GSM 850/1900 networks.
Who is say that TRUE?
i'm very confused.
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That first link (that I provided earlier tonight I think) - read it to the end please, Clove has all the info on that page, just finish reading it. sorry for the tone , but I think you did not pay enough attention - there are comments to that blog post that say clove confirmed with the manufacturer and local distributor that all 4 bands are present.
I'm confused here
I have SGSII ordered from Clove. I plan to use it with ATT sim card. Have I made a mistake? Will I be able to use it? Do I need to cancel?
I hope it works well with AT&T since I intend to get this phone.
My current (imported) GT-i9000 did not properly support AT&T and has very poor call quality and call drop issues.
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Although Clove originally said they doubted it would support 850/1900 3G+, they did later confirm their stock would be quad-band 3G. So no need to worry about support for NAM 3G.
Once someone get's the GS2 in USA on ATT, can you confirm that it indeed works on Edge AND 3G?
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I hope it works well with AT&T since I intend to get this phone.
My current (imported) GT-i9000 did not properly support AT&T and has very poor call quality and call drop issues.
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That's because the i9000 is only tri-band UMTS and only supports AT&T's 1900 frequency. When it gets to an area where the 1900 H/3G signal is weak, it can't switch over to the 850 UMTS simply because its hardware doesn't support it. So, then the phone call drops. You'll notice if you switch the i9000 to 2G/Edge, you'll never get a dropped call... because it's quad band GSM.
Also, ever notice you never get dropped calls when stationary and on H/3G? That's because with a solid 1900 UMTS signal, the i9000 will never search for the unsupported 850 band.
(And yes, I have confirmed all of this as I also own an i9000.)
i9100 supports quad-band UMTS with 850/1900 H/3G, so you will not have the frequent dropped calls anymore.
Here are the frequencies for AT&T: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT&T_Mobility#Radio_Frequency_Summary
Frequencies used on the AT&T Network
850 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
1900 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
850 MHz UMTS/HSPA 3G
1900 MHz UMTS/HSPA 3G
700 MHz LTE 4G
So, the i9100 International will do almost all. Except LTE.
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Here are the frequencies for AT&T: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT&T_Mobility#Radio_Frequency_Summary
Frequencies used on the AT&T Network
850 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
1900 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
850 MHz UMTS/HSPA 3G
1900 MHz UMTS/HSPA 3G
700 MHz LTE 4G
So, the i9100 International will do almost all. Except LTE.
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Thanks for your information.
Hey Guys,
I am situated in Germany and in my opinion, the ATT Versions of the S2 is the most beautiful one. My carrier ist o2.
Is it possible to buy a S2 ATT via the US Ebay and use the phone without any restrictions in Germany?
I guess I need to root it first, then unlock it and then I am good to go? Are these thins easily and safely to achieve? Is it that simple? What about the network, is the american version compatible with the german network? Can I use hsdpa?
Any other restrictions?
Thank you in advance.
the usual problems with US phones in europe... no 3g, but if your only there short term, it may be worth picking up, otherwise just get the euro version with the correct bands.
also i havent checked but there may be a quad band umts unlocked
AT&T version only has tri-band (850/1900/2100) HSPA+ radio. So if your carrier O2 uses 900 band for 3G service, your phone will only work in 2G mode.
International version of GS2 has quad-band HSPA+ and it works everywhere.
Hello, I just got this phone and I'm wondering if I was automatically switched to HSPA+ speed. It says H on the status bar but I don't notice any speed improvement. AT&T can't detect the phone obviously so I can't switch the 4G data plan on the website either.
Is there a way to check or make sure I'm getting HSPA+?
Thanks.
Go to the marketplace and download Free Speed Test.
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If you are in an area that uses the 850 MHz band exclusively for HSPA+ and you only have a tri-band WCDMA Lumia then you will get 3g/edge speeds.
Data goes back and forth between 3G and H as I move about the city (New York). Wonder if it's the phone or the crappy AT&T signal.
My max down speed is about 3mbps.
Just wondering where you purchased your Lumia 800 from? I am looking for one for use with Telstra in Australia that uses the 850MHz band
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Just wondering where you purchased your Lumia 800 from? I am looking for one for use with Telstra in Australia that uses the 850MHz band
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I bought mine unlocked from Amazon.
Does it support the WCDMA 850MHz AT&T network? Did you have to flash it with something?
the Lumia 800 currently does not support 850Mhz, only 900.
Next month, the US variant (RM-819) will be released here at the Microsoft stores. I'm sure they won't be cheap, but they'll support 850Mhz. You can wait until then. There is also speculation that the EU variant (RM-801) can be flashed with the RM-819 firmware and then open up the 850 band, but that won't be confirmed until someone actually does it.
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the Lumia 800 currently does not support 850Mhz, only 900.
Next month, the US variant (RM-819) will be released here at the Microsoft stores. I'm sure they won't be cheap, but they'll support 850Mhz. You can wait until then. There is also speculation that the EU variant (RM-801) can be flashed with the RM-819 firmware and then open up the 850 band, but that won't be confirmed until someone actually does it.
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I don't know about that... The description of the factory unlocked German version I bought says it does.
"Nokia Lumia 800 black 16GB factory unlocked. GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 & 3G/HSDPA 900 / 1900 / 2100."
I'm using it on AT&T US with 3G.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0067M9JBQ/ref=oh_o00_s00_i00_details
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Does it support the WCDMA 850MHz AT&T network? Did you have to flash it with something?
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Works fine with mine. I get 3-4mbps down, which seems to be the norm in NYC. I didn't touch the firmware, still on 11451.
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I don't know about that... The description of the factory unlocked German version I bought says it does.
"Nokia Lumia 800 black 16GB factory unlocked. GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 & 3G/HSDPA 900 / 1900 / 2100."
I'm using it on AT&T US with 3G.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0067M9JBQ/ref=oh_o00_s00_i00_details
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Sorry, I should have been more detailed.
The variant models of the Lumia 800 (RM-801 and RM-819) differ in WCDMA bands, not GSM bands. Take everything I said before and apply it to WCDMA/HSPA. It then matches up with the description from your German advert.
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Sorry, I should have been more detailed.
The variant models of the Lumia 800 (RM-801 and RM-819) differ in WCDMA bands, not GSM bands. Take everything I said before and apply it to WCDMA/HSPA. It then matches up with the description from your German advert.
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Ah yes, then you're right. It says right there on the box. WCDMA 900/1900/2100. So no 3G for T-Mobile US ;P
AT&T No data
Just got my unlocked 800 from Amazon, can't seem to get data to work. Any suggestions? MSG calls OK
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Just got my unlocked 800 from Amazon, can't seem to get data to work. Any suggestions? MSG calls OK
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Go into Settings/Cellular, and at the bottom click APN. Add wap.cingular to the first line and save. That's it.
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I don't know about that... The description of the factory unlocked German version I bought says it does.
"Nokia Lumia 800 black 16GB factory unlocked. GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 & 3G/HSDPA 900 / 1900 / 2100."
I'm using it on AT&T US with 3G.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0067M9JBQ/ref=oh_o00_s00_i00_details
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It's wrong. They're only tri-band 3G.
Edit: And that's already been mentioned, stupid extra page.
It uses the 1900 band to get at&t 3G, correct?
I was thinking about picking one of these up but was worried about 3G coverage with it if it only use 1900 instead of 850 and 1900.
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It uses the 1900 band to get at&t 3G, correct?
I was thinking about picking one of these up but was worried about 3G coverage with it if it only use 1900 instead of 850 and 1900.
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Wait a month or so and you can purchase the US variant from Microsoft.
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Wait a month or so and you can purchase the US variant from Microsoft.
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I'm impatient, lol.
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I'm impatient, lol.
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As am I. That's why I have a Cyan UK model for $80 more than I could have purchased the black from Amazon.
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As am I. That's why I have a Cyan UK model for $80 more than I could have purchased the black from Amazon.
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So is anyone using it with at&t and getting 3G coverage?
I am thinking about trying to get an sgs iii and wondering if it is possible to get it on the $30.00 mo 100min unl data plan through walmart?
I have the exhibit ii on this plan, had it for a couple months, anybody know how I would do this?
If it will work with Tmobile band why not, best to ask the source. I don't think we have a Wal Mart rep guru here.
Sure you can, if you don't want 3G.
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You have prepaid plan, you can put your sim into just about any unlocked GSM phone (and T-Mobile phones) and use it. If you want a good phone right now, get the Galaxy Nexus (GSM), it supports T-Mobile 3G (1700/2100 band). T-Mobile version of SIII will be coming later.
thanks for the responses, a Galaxy Nexus is probably a more realistic option than the sgs3 price wise, going to take a good look at it on the play store.
cheers.
T-Mobile and AT&T both support compatible band.
the SGS3 uses HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
T-Mobile uses HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100
AT&T uses HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
now we play match the bands. we see at&t shares 3 bands with the international SGS3, thats great. T-Mobile shares 1, not as awesome, but 1 band is enough.
its true what theyre saying up there about "only having 2G", well i should correct myself, it WAS true. however recently T-Mobile has upgraded their 2100 band to 3G, as theyve been expanding. so it will work fine on Walmart's plan, as they use T-Mobile's network.
T-Mobile will come out with an SGS3 later in the year, for SGS2 it was 6 months behind the international version. the T-Mobile version will use HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100. what do more compatible bands mean? well it means if youre in an area you normally wouldnt get good 2100 band signal, you may get 1700 signal. if you live in the city, youll see no difference at all, its only when youre in rural areas.
so in short; you can totally use the i9300 SGS3 on tmobiles network, and yes, you will have HSDPA 3G
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T-Mobile uses HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100
now we play match the bands. we see at&t shares 3 bands with the international SGS3, thats great. T-Mobile shares 1, not as awesome, but 1 band is enough.
its true what theyre saying up there about "only having 2G", well i should correct myself, it WAS true. however recently T-Mobile has upgraded their 2100 band to 3G, as theyve been expanding. so it will work fine on Walmart's plan, as they use T-Mobile's network.
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Could really use a source for this, please. Everything i've looked up has suggested that their HSPA+ is only 1700 and 2100, and that phones with only 2100 would not work.
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Could really use a source for this, please. Everything i've looked up has suggested that their HSPA+ is only 1700 and 2100, and that phones with only 2100 would not work.
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you know what, i made a mistake, i was using this
http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4261
looking at the bands the T-Mobile One S (along with all other tmobile phones) support, but the 900 band is just added to the phone so it can be used if taken abroad. so my mistake.
to reiterate the sgs3 will only work on 2g on tmobile, it will only work on at&t for 3g.
im glad you questioned it, i would have gone along giving bad information
I have just purchased a Gear s, which looks like it was purchased from the USA (T-mobile) & I am using it in the UK. It has been unlocked but when I put in the sim I do not get any single & within the call settings it displays unexpected response from network.
Any Ideas what could be wrong?
Thanks
Gear S is a dual-band phone only. So North America models won't work in rest of the world and vice versa. You are SOL.
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Gear S is a dual-band phone only. So North America models won't work in rest of the world and vice versa. You are SOL.
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Can you suggest where I might find out if my Australasian purchased Gear S + S4 will work in the UK?
Both devices bought outright (though so was my iPhone but the carrier still locked it into their service as soon as I put their sim card in)
To ask the question another way - if say travelling back to the uk (and assuming my devices are compatible with their networks ) - would I be better off prepurchasing a still quite expensive international package from the Australian bandits - or would an international package from Amaysim Lebara etc work with one their sims in the gear s and another in the galaxy device?
my provider is now offering slightly less extortionate international deals but as you say it depends on whether the GS is compatible with the other country's network.
I'd be happy to do that tap tap tap thing and just use the Gear S as a phone back in the uk
thanks
You need check Samsung for the specific frequency bands any of these specific local variants support. For Australia, it has networks use 850Mhz (which is one of the bands North America uses), 900 and 1800 (both are commonly used in rest of the world). So, I'm not sure what bands an Australian version supports.
Gear S for North America supports only 850MHz and 1900 MHz.
Gear S for rest of the world supports only 900Mhz and 1800 MHz.
Australia and Brazil have more complex frequency usage. So I don't have any idea. Japan is WCDMA 2100 only. So Japanese version contains no cell radio.
Thanks
I will get it exchanged
Best model for Western Australian users hoping to use it abroad
Gear S for North America supports only 850MHz and 1900 MHz.
Gear S for rest of the world supports only 900Mhz and 1800 MHz.
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The somewhat-difficult-to-navigate Samsung Aus store is currently showing 2 different models
Telstra (900/2100) ----- GSM 900 DCS 1800 ---- 3G UMTS B1 (2100) B8 (900)
Optus Vodafone Virgin (850/2100) ----GSM 850 DCS 1800 ---- 3G UMTS B1 (2100) B5 (850)
Th Gear S still doesn't appear on the Telstra website ....(though it's their PAYG simcard in my watch)
but Optus is already offering the watch with a shared data plan
I bought mine from a 3rd party electronics reseller "**** Smith" but the Gear S has since disappeared from their store - go figure!
Thanks again for the ongoing education on battery considerations, pairing solutions, different types of network frequencies, and all your other helpful contributions
I'm not posting the details above in the hope of more free specific advice but more to share my experiences with other less techie users and potential users - plus writing it down helps my own understanding
http://www.samsung.com/au/consumer/comparison?prda=SM-R7500ZKAOPS&prdb=SM-R750BZKAXSA