should i wipe battery stats i switching from extend. battery to stock. or only when switching roms? when does this matter?
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CleveRuse said:
should i wipe battery stats i switching from extend. battery to stock. or only when switching roms? when does this matter?
[Also i know this doesn't belong here but my PC is really slow do easiest way is to ask: is there someway to search all my posts at once as they're becoming hard to keep track of ?]
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I switched back to my stock battery after my extended died. I wiped battery stats, wiping stats when flashing new roms is recommended.
Wiping battery stats is never really considered an essential thing to do no matter what. It is nice though to do. I suggest it when you start realizing crap battery life on one ROM/kernel compared to the last one. The suggested way is to wipe it after installing a new kernel and as well as when you swap batteries. Other than that, really no need to in my eyes.
I wipe after every new ROM install, period.
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The suggested way is to wipe it after installing a new kernel and as well as when you swap batteries. Other than that, really no need to in my eyes.
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This is when I do it also.
Digging up a thread here, didn't want to waste a new one.. But I have the OEM Extended Battery and I tried wiping my battery stats.. Charge full, reboot into recovery, wipe stats, unplug.. After this I noticed that my battery said 93% even tho the charge light was green.. I drained it until it turned off and charged again overnight.. In the AM, light was green, i turned phone on and its still showing 93% even though it was green. Any ideas? Did I lose that 7% forever?
Sometimes wiping the stats causes a bad battery read. A few reboots should get you back on track. If that doesn't work, try a full battery drain then a full charge. Let us know.
Will try that, even tho I kinda did already. I'm hoping with a few battery cycles the problem goes away.. What Im hoping is I don't need to bump charge now every time like I did when I had my inc
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Did I lose that 7% forever?
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I doubt you lost anything. It would be like Spinal Tap having an amp which only went to 9.
I only had to wipe when my battery wasn't decreasing in percentage. After I wiped, it started decreasing like it should. I would think any fast reduction in percentage would be a bad battery.
Are there any proven facts out there that it is really ever necessary to wipe them? It's not like it actually improves battery life am I correct?
as far as wiping battery stats goes.
i have only used it when reconditioning a battery.
ie if you start noticing bad (read: worse that you have been getting) battery life after flashing a new rom or kernel. or just after a time using a standard rom.
what i do is
1 turn the phone off.
2 charge it on AC until it goes green and for an hour afterward.
3 unplug it and wait 30 seconds.
4 plug it back in and repeat step 3 until the light goes from red to green within 20 or so seconds. (this is called bump charging)
5 boot into CWR and wipe battery stats. and let it burn all the way down until it wont even turn on (flashing orange led)
6 charge to full and enjoy your maybe improved battery life.
when wiping battery stats, do i have to do it a few times or no? i wiped battery stats at full and drained battery until it turned off twice.. once wiping the stats with CWR and once, and after a cycle, with the 'battery calibrate' app (made by someone here on xda i believe)..
seems to be working okay i guess, but lets say i have 94%, i reset my phone and it comes back with only 84%.. it appears it's still reading my battery wrong by around 10%. is this normal?
It doesn't happen at every reset, looks like just the first one of the day. I guess I can charge to full, reboot, and charge to full again as a workaround.
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i meant to ask this before but I forgot, can anyone try to do that and let me know if it happens to them too or if its just me
Charge with phone on until full then turn it off and charge.. about how long does it stay amber?
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Hi!
Yesterday when my battery was at 88%, I wiped the batt stats from Amon Ra.
When I switched on my phone, my hero told me that the battery was full (100%).
I want to know something more about Recalibration of the battery by wiping battery stats. Searching on the Internet somebody tells that is important to wipe batt stats when the battery is empty, and then charge it.
Other people reccomend to wipe battery stats when the battery is full.
What do you suggest?
Thanks
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Hi!
Yesterday when my battery was at 88%, I wiped the batt stats from Amon Ra.
When I switched on my phone, my hero told me that the battery was full (100%).
I want to know something more about Recalibration of the battery by wiping battery stats. Searching on the Internet somebody tells that is important to wipe batt stats when the battery is empty, and then charge it.
Other people reccomend to wipe battery stats when the battery is full.
What do you suggest?
Thanks
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The way I've learned to recalibrate the battery is to let it go down to 5%, boot phone into recovery and wipe batterystats, then power off the phone. Let the phone charge until the green led is on without turning it on. Then turn on and use the phone as usual. Learned it over at modaco. Worked as a charm, and batterytime was improved. I have personally experienced strange batterybehaviour after periods with flashing a lot of roms.
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Worked as a charm, and batterytime was improved. I have personally experienced strange batterybehaviour after periods with flashing a lot of roms.
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Yep, every time I flash a ROM it's suggested to do a full wipe, battery stats also, and i think that with a lot of flashing, the battery behavour become strange.
I tried that "trick" today on my phone, I will tell you how is battery life.
Thank you!
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Yep, every time I flash a ROM it's suggested to do a full wipe, battery stats also, and i think that with a lot of flashing, the battery behavour become strange.
I tried that "trick" today on my phone, I will tell you how is battery life.
Thank you!
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No problem! Good luck
I'm going to try this tonight and will report back my findings tomorrow.
I just hope I don't get any important calls or texts while it's turned off to charge
Any update on your experiments guys as I am about to do the battery stats wipe too.
Any updates on this?
Ooops, I forgot to reply back but it's been covered in different threads in the Hero section and for other Android phones... it does work.
As others have said, after flashing different ROMs the battery starts to mis-report but this trick seems to sort it out
Yesterday, I let my battery die. Charged it last night, and wiped battery states. Ran the phone like normal today. Was down to about 30% left, rebooted. When everything came back up and running, that battery showed to be 5%. WTF!!! How do I drop 25%, just by rebooting?!?!?!?
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Yesterday, I let my battery die. Charged it last night, and wiped battery states. Ran the phone like normal today. Was down to about 30% left, rebooted. When everything came back up and running, that battery showed to be 5%. WTF!!! How do I drop 25%, just by rebooting?!?!?!?
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Bad battery stats...
Recondition
xriderx66 said:
Bad battery stats...
Recondition
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So...I should wipe the battery stats again after re-charging to 100%?
Then wipe the battery stats in advanced of recovery mode
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Then wipe the battery stats in advanced of recovery mode
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I re-wiped the battery stat this morning. I was down to about 50% when I needed to reboot. When everything came back up, it showed I was down to 28%. Is this an indication that the battery needs to be replaced or should I try a different Kernel?
Either you have a bad battery, bad battery meter, or your not reconditioning right.
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Either you have a bad battery, bad battery meter, or your not reconditioning right.
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What would you suggest I try? What is the proper way to recondition my battery?
Charge to 100%
Boot into recovery
Wipe battery stats
Reboot
Don't unplug charger until at desktop again (You could debate this one, but that's when I do it)
And don't worry about killing your battery, it'll do more harm than good.
Explanation - When you wipe battery stats, it tells your phone you're at 100%
So, if you wipe when you ARE at 100% you'll get accurate readings.
Eogram said:
Charge to 100%
Boot into recovery
Wipe battery stats
Reboot
Don't unplug charger until at desktop again (You could debate this one, but that's when I do it)
And don't worry about killing your battery, it'll do more harm than good.
Explanation - When you wipe battery stats, it tells your phone you're at 100%
So, if you wipe when you ARE at 100% you'll get accurate readings.
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The past 2 times I did this, the phone was turned off and plugged in and charged over night. this morning I wiped the stat, but i do not remember if I had unplugged it before it finished booting up. I am charging it now, with it on. When it reaches 100%, should I reboot into recovery and wipe it or should I let it run all the way down?
What exactly do you mean by 'let it run all the way down'?
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What exactly do you mean by 'let it run all the way down'?
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Down to say some were around 20 - 5%.
As far as I understand that shouldn't be necessary, and could weaken your battery.
As long as it's fully charged when you wipe the stats you should be good to go.
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Eogram said:
As far as I understand that shouldn't be necessary, and could weaken your battery.
As long as it's fully charged when you wipe the stats you should be good to go.
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I have another 20% to go. i will let you know tomorrow how things work out.
Eogram said:
As far as I understand that shouldn't be necessary, and could weaken your battery.
As long as it's fully charged when you wipe the stats you should be good to go.
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Ok...I have ran the phone like normal. Within 6 hours, I am down to 62%. I rebooted the phone, and it still shows me at 62%. At least I have that fixed.
Now, I see some people use OverStock and seem to be getting better battery life. I just want to get about 16+ hours out of my battery. Right now i seem to be pushing 12 hours. What is the tick that i am missing??
For every hundred vibrant users there seems to be a hundred different accounts of battery life, and a hindered different opinions on how to keep it down. 12 hours on the stock battery is pretty good, especially compared to stock.
Mine'll last me around 15+, if I left it not charging, i think.
I'm on overstock, the screen is at the dimmest 95% of the time, and I use setcpu. 1000/1000 with a screen off profile of 200/200. So, that works for me pretty well.
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You need to recondition yr battery as posted above, 2-4 cycles. But i prefer to re-flash ROM when battery 100%, should you get proper batt stats.
You may buy new one to test yr system n batt stats, also good for spare. Or just borrow yr friends battery, just to check yr rom n batt stats. Treat it like you did before.
Good luck.
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For every hundred vibrant users there seems to be a hundred different accounts of battery life, and a hindered different opinions on how to keep it down. 12 hours on the stock battery is pretty good, especially compared to stock.
Mine'll last me around 15+, if I left it not charging, i think.
I'm on overstock, the screen is at the dimmest 95% of the time, and I use setcpu. 1000/1000 with a screen off profile of 200/200. So, that works for me pretty well.
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200/200 conservative scaling and no sleep death? Didn't know that was possible on overstock...guess I'll try it.
Edit: sleep of death...you must be on power save or something which afaik doesn't work at all.
*checks*
Yeah, powersave. What's this about it not working? It occasionally lags a little when I unlock it and the widget definitely says 200
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I don't think powersave is supported...try conservative and you'll get sleep death due to the low frequency...you don't get this with powersave because I don't believe it's working...trying to confirm this.
I see alot of people are doing this after flashing Das Bamf
I did after installing 1.3, and it just seemed to make my battery drop like crazy, and then at times, not drop at all. I just installed 1.3.1. so should i do a battery stat wipe? what purpose would this serve?
I am not sure the "best practice" on wiping battery stats. I was always under the impression that you should charge to 100%, wipe stats, and then leave on charger until the battery is at 100%.
Not sure if it is best to then do a complete discharge cycle before putting the device back on the charger. I really do not know what the battery stats includes. I always thought it contained battery calibration data.
I'd really like to know this as well.
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I am not sure the "best practice" on wiping battery stats. I was always under the impression that you should charge to 100%, wipe stats, and then leave on charger until the battery is at 100%.
Not sure if it is best to then do a complete discharge cycle before putting the device back on the charger. I really do not know what the battery stats includes. I always thought it contained battery calibration data.
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I think thats what it contains as well, however should i be plugged in while wiping? I always go to the battery stat menu in CWM, then right before i hit Yes, i unplug
I also read the same the thread (got the same rumor), after two battery wipes and fresh rom flashes (from 100%), in either case (on both VIRUS and BAMF) my battery mysteriously goes back to 86%. I can charge it back to 100% again but kinda thinking I shouldn't of wiped it. That or I'm doing it wrong.
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I also read the same the thread (got the same rumor), after two battery wipes and fresh rom flashes (from 100%), in either case (on both VIRUS and BAMF) my battery mysteriously goes back to 86%. I can charge it back to 100% again but kinda thinking I shouldn't of wiped it. That or I'm doing it wrong.
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Mine does the same thing!! Well, 87%, lol i think maybe our phones are saying 100 when in reality its 86 or 87? also got to keep in mind that rebooting afterwards drains battery like crazy.
Try "bumping" the battery, search battery bump to see the steps, mine use to do the same thing, from 100 to 93 after reboot, now stays in 100.
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Or check this out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1018813
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Or Go To The market and download an app called "Battery Doctor " helped me
-Monky_1
every time i charge my phone to full, the battery level reads that i'm at 91%, never at 100%. i deleted battery stats in recovery but the problem persists. i got an htc inspire and running absolution 3.7. how do i fix this?
my current absolution rom is a backup. i had 3 different roms before restoring this rom. should i have done a full wipe besfore restoring the rom? could this be the problem why my battery doenst give a good read?
How did you charged before wiping stats?
The best way:
- power off your phone completely
- charge battery
- wait till battery-LED is green (maybe just wait a little bit longer)
- start into recovery
- wipe battery stats
choliemelan said:
How did you charged before wiping stats?
The best way:
- power off your phone completely
- charge battery
- wait till battery-LED is green (maybe just wait a little bit longer)
- start into recovery
- wipe battery stats
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hi choliemelan.. to answer your question, i had my battery at 90% before wiping battery stats in recovery.
but i got a quesrtion for you.. my current rom is a backup of absolution. i had 3 different roms before restoring this rom. should i have done a full wipe before restoring the rom?
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hi choliemelan.. to answer your question, i had my battery at 90% before wiping battery stats in recovery.
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Ok, just try out my suggestion with charging in power-off-mode
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but i got a quesrtion for you.. my current rom is a backup of absolution. i had 3 different roms before restoring this rom. should i have done a full wipe before restoring the rom?
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the 3 Roms you used before were Absolution, too, but different versions? So a full wipe is recommended, but shouldn't be essential.
In case of trying fully different Roms, a full wipe / factory reset is neccessary, also if you are using a "xyz"-Rom before and want to roll back to a backup of Absolution-Rom.
also your battery might have started to get weaker. if you use the phone a lot and make lots of charging cycles battery life gets shorter. also if you plug it for a minute or for an hour its considered a charging cycle. so if you have a lot, then you might have to get a new one
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the 3 Roms you used before were Absolution, too, but different versions? So a full wipe is recommended, but shouldn't be essential.
In case of trying fully different Roms, a full wipe / factory reset is neccessary, also if you are using a "xyz"-Rom before and want to roll back to a backup of Absolution-Rom.
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hi choliemelan.. actaully, i used 3 completely different roms, not different versions of Absolution, just to let you know. tell me what you think i should do.
Its not a strange problem man, google it, it happens all the time, just keep charging it properly and it will be fine. I wouldnt worry about it, some phones go to 100% and drop like a stone till 90% then go normal, its just the way your phone translates it
I had similiar problem...whenever i played games or anything that used 30% battery or battery was below 20% I pluged to charge but it stayed there for 1:30 hour 0o. So i unpluged and played games till 0% and phone "died". Than removed battery for 2 mins and charged to 100% without turning on...
when you use all of battery take battery out(i dont know why but it makes battery better). This battery in androids really mess up things...hope u fix it
Nokia 3310 ftw x)
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Its not a strange problem man, google it, it happens all the time, just keep charging it properly and it will be fine. I wouldnt worry about it, some phones go to 100% and drop like a stone till 90% then go normal, its just the way your phone translates it
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thanks man,., will do
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I had similiar problem...whenever i played games or anything that used 30% battery or battery was below 20% I pluged to charge but it stayed there for 1:30 hour 0o. So i unpluged and played games till 0% and phone "died". Than removed battery for 2 mins and charged to 100% without turning on...
when you use all of battery take battery out(i dont know why but it makes battery better). This battery in androids really mess up things...hope u fix it
Nokia 3310 ftw x)
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yeah my battery today started off at 97& after full charge. then when i checked on it 6 hours later, it reads like it started at 100%.. this is very strange.
Kind of similar problem with me, Even after keeping my htc one v in charging for 4 hrs, the battery still reaches 85 ~ 90% always, and then it charges at snail's speed.
If i restart my phone at this point, the battery indicator shows 100% !
I am confused, since if it was a genuine trickle charge, the battery percentage should remain same even after reboot.
For some odd reason my battery icon shows 71%, but if I go to batt status it shows 62%. I flashed a diff batt mod and it changed to the new one, but it's still on 71%. Any ideas how I can make it show the correct status?
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For some odd reason my battery icon shows 71%, but if I go to batt status it shows 62%. I flashed a diff batt mod and it changed to the new one, but it's still on 71%. Any ideas how I can make it show the correct status?
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let the phone run till it dies and then charge it. that should reset the battery gauge.
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let the phone run till it dies and then charge it. that should reset the battery gauge.
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Will try that....thanks!!!
Never let the battery drain to zero, it's bad for you battery. These aren't the old Ni-Cad batteries from the 80's but Lithium ion batteries If you want to reset the battery stats just download Battery Calibration from the play store. Charge phone to full and then hit Calibrate and it will reset your stats. Unless something is different with the GS4 or their TW OS any newly installed rom should have this done after installation
Here is info on what you should know about today's batteries.
http://batteryuniversity.com/
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Never let the battery drain to zero, it's bad for you battery. These aren't the old Ni-Cad batteries from the 80's but Lithium ion batteries If you want to reset the battery stats just download Battery Calibration from the play store. Charge phone to full and then hit Calibrate and it will reset your stats. Unless something is different with the GS4 or their TW OS any newly installed rom should have this done after installation
Here is info on what you should know about today's batteries.
http://batteryuniversity.com/
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doing it constantly is bad, once will not effect it.
Eric214 said:
Never let the battery drain to zero, it's bad for you battery. These aren't the old Ni-Cad batteries from the 80's but Lithium ion batteries If you want to reset the battery stats just download Battery Calibration from the play store. Charge phone to full and then hit Calibrate and it will reset your stats. Unless something is different with the GS4 or their TW OS any newly installed rom should have this done after installation
Here is info on what you should know about today's batteries.
http://batteryuniversity.com/
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The statement about li-ion not being akin to ni-cad is correct. The rest is not.
No app is capable of battery calibration. The myth of wiping battery stats to calibrate the battery was clearly and concisely debunked a year and a half ago. Apps such as Battery Calibration ate pure snake oil, as they do not affect battery indication in any way, shape, or form. Additionally, there is absolutely no benefit to wiping battery stats after flashing a rom.
The fact of the matter, as verified by Battery University, is that a complete discharge/charge cycle is the only method of "calibration" available to an end user. By performing a single cycle, the charge and discharge flags are reset. Only a single cycle is needed and this is something that need be performed more than a few times a year, as it wail shorten the battery's serviceable lifespan.
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Ummm I said if you want to reset you stats not actually calibrate your battery. That app to clear stats is called Battery Calibrator. Never did i say calibrate battery
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Ummm I said if you want to reset you stats not actually calibrate your battery. That app to clear stats is called Battery Calibrator. Never did i say calibrate battery
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There is a far easier way to clear battery stats. Charge to phone to full or near full, and then unplug it. Voila! Regardless, wiping battery stats is not going to do anything for the op.
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Well a friend of mine had the same issue with "stuck battery %" and that did the trick soooo just helping out with what worked for another is all. whatever
That actually didn't do the trick, as nothing relevant to reported charge is contained in the file that is wiped. While it may seem logical to ascribe the fix to a proximal act, it is actually a case of post hoc ergo propter hoc.
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There is a far easier way to clear battery stats. Charge to phone to full or near full, and then unplug it. Voila! Regardless, wiping battery stats is not going to do anything for the op.
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Neither did this. The battery calibrator app did nothing either. My phone is still showing a percent up top that is not what shows in settings/more/battery. More news, my phone showed this morning, after I unplugged it from all night charge, that it had been running on battery for 8 hours 2 minutes. The whole battery status is fubar somehow.
Just let the phone die, it works , and its easy
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Just let the phone die, it works , and its easy
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That's the only thing I haven't tried. Will do that today. Will report.
Didn't work. Gonna have to dirty flash the ROM.
My S4 (2 months old) dies with the battery at 20%. After reboot (plugged in) it still says 20%. Why does that happen? It should say 0%!
Update
It seems that the battery gives an incorrect fake voltage sometimes. To correct that I turned the camer flash on, using a flashlight utility, and after a few seconds I clicked the quick start button in the battery calibration utility you can access dialing *#0228#.
Now it show 11% that should almost be correct, and it's now charging. I am charging it in slow mode at 500mA just to give it a proper charge.
I'll update you as soon as I have results.
Second Update
Nothing. I think the battery is broken.
It dies at about 20%-30% and when the phone restarts, plugged in, it says it's 20%.