I need a way of charging a battery without it being in the phone while in the car - are there any options for me?
I have not seen a car cradle with a battery charger slot but I have used a car invertor to supply power to my desktop cradle and charge a second battery on the odd occasion I need it.
The invertor simply take the 12 V DC from the car and inverts it to a 240v AC signal. The unit has a cig lighter socket on one end and a general purpose outlet socket on the other into which I plug the desktop charger AC adapter.
In you case (USA) you would only need a 110v unit. I paid A$50 for mine and use it to charge my notebbok etc. on those extended trips away from an AC socket.
Others may have alternative solutions for you.
Ed
You can also get a smaller, simpler device which goes into the cigarette lighter socket in the car and converts the 12v output to the required 5v input for the XDA.
http://maxborgesagency.com/press/bracketron-launches-dual-usb-charger/
$24.99 dual USB Cigarette lighter adapter 1 & 2 amp
Reeves360 said:
http://maxborgesagency.com/press/bracketron-launches-dual-usb-charger/
$24.99 dual USB Cigarette lighter adapter 1 & 2 amp
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Unfortunately, worthless.
Transformer needs 11v-15v to charge reasonably well. Any 5v charger, even at 1000000 amps, will not charge the TF with screen lit, or charge takes days with TF turned off.
Much harder to find auto chargers in the 11v-15v range, some that say 12v are actually not. I found one advertised as 12v (that measures 9.8v actually) and it also did not charge TF. Good luck.
Wont work. Unlike most devices the Transformer does not use 5v to charge like the iPhone and many other Android devices. It does use USB but it will only charge via Asus's special chargers. This is because our Transformers charge via 15volt and the charger cable is actually a USB 3.0 cable that has extra pins in back, and the 15volt pin is one of these extra pins the USB 3.0 layout provides.
Edit Bob Smith42 beat me to it by a few seconds lol
Be aware that it's incorrect to say that the TF won't charge from a standard USB charger. It does charge however it only trickle charges and therefore takes much longer. So let's make sure we are clear when we respond about what works and what doesn't. I used my iPad 2 amp charger on the TF and went from about 30% charge to about 85% charge in about 6 hours (screen off). The absolute fastest way to trickle charge from a generic adapter is with the TF powered off. Hopefully Asus will come out their own car adapter for the TF.
The charger that the original poster mentioned WILL trickle charge the TF. Also new TF users should know that the TF will not give any charging indications when plugged into anything other than the Asus charger - but it is trickle charging none-the-less.
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The charger that the original poster mentioned WILL trickle charge the TF. Also new TF users should know that the TF will not give any charging indications when plugged into anything other than the Asus charger - but it is trickle charging none-the-less.
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One thing to mention that you can do if you have the tock is trickl-echarge THAT while still using the pad... then in 5-6 hours when the padd is getting low, you can dock it, and it will charge off of the dock while you keep using it. Once fully charged, undock it again, etc. This is what I want to do, and why I want a second USB cable.
I recently purchased the Scosche reVOLT c2 dual usb car charger. Being 2.1A, I was hoping it would work with my new Prime. Unfortunately that is not the case. It's a nice product and works we with all my other USB devices, but no luck with the TF. Unless anyone has any ideas to make it work, avoid this if you are looking to charge your Prime.
-ajs
Even though most car chargers run off 12VDC input, they output only 5V for usb devices. The TF itself should trickle-charge with 5V, but in order to actually fast charge it (or charge while in-use), it requires [email protected] or more (give or take).
You need at least 12v output to charge the Prime at a normal rate. 15v is ideal. Standard USB is 5v.
+1 ^^ although I think I did read somewhere that the Prime will trickle charge on USB if it's off or "not in use"? Can't recall where I saw this...
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Yes, the Prime will charge on a standard USB port, but it will do so very slowly. I have done so myself.
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Has anyone successfully used a 12v usb charger other than the BN ripoff? I have a gmax 2.1a and aluratek 2a and neither one will charge the bn tablet. I get the "not charging" message on the tablet.. so I supposed its getting some juice, but not enough to sustain it. I soldered d+/d- together on both adapters and now both will show ac charging in the nexus - so I know each is getting close to 1amp. Ironically, the tablet will show ac charging if I use the nexus power ac power cube which is rated at 5v / 1amp output. So you would think the 12v usb adapters which are rated the same would work as well.
thoughts?
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Has anyone successfully used a 12v usb charger other than the BN ripoff? I have a gmax 2.1a and aluratek 2a and neither one will charge the bn tablet. I get the "not charging" message on the tablet.. so I supposed its getting some juice, but not enough to sustain it. I soldered d+/d- together on both adapters and now both will show ac charging in the nexus - so I know each is getting close to 1amp. Ironically, the tablet will show ac charging if I use the nexus power ac power cube which is rated at 5v / 1amp output. So you would think the 12v usb adapters which are rated the same would work as well.
thoughts?
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did you read about the 'special' connector that is deeper than the normal ones ? please use the search function for more info.
sure did.. all of this was with the [email protected] cable..
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did you read about the 'special' connector that is deeper than the normal ones ? please use the search function for more info.
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There's also the part of the equation where the USB adapter must supply a lot more than the 500mA of current that most adapters and computer USB ports are limited to. Mine will say "charging" as long as the adapter puts out around 1A (1000mA) or more and I use the NT's supplied cable. <-- But it still won't charge as quickly as it does when I use a 2A charger such as the one it came with. The factory charger is around 2A and expecting the NT to charge with anything less may not result how you'd like. Just because your phone likes a charger doesn't mean your NT will.
There is more to it than just shorting the D+ and D- pins. If the charger was designed for iPad, then you will also need to remove 4 resistors. Check out the two links in my post relating this issue at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614091
I modded a car charger by just shorting the two pins. My HTC EVO 4G phone showed AC charging but my NT showed USB charging. I opened it up again and removed the resistors network and NT showed AC charging right away. Good luck.
bigdogz - good advice - made an attempt at it but my eyesight and hand steadiness aint what it used to be However, I did find one that works - Scosche reviveII - GUSBC3. Its a 2.1a port for the galaxy tab and a 1amp port for apple. It charges both the galaxy tab 10.1 and the nook tablet on the 2.1a port. It also will charge in ac mode a galaxy nexus from the tab port. The 1a port does not have the d pins shorted, but will charge an iphone.
i have this tablet for a couple days now, when i plug the power adapter to the mains the power adapter gets really hot.
does anyone have the same result or is just normal? i know that the adapter obviously will get hot, but it seems a bit to hot, just the adapter the usb cable is fine and so is the tablet
Its normal. If it gets to hot it shuts off. I hear you have to put it in the freezer to attempt to bring it back.
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well, i just dont want to wake up one morning and find the all lot burned.
but it does get really hot
Noticed the same thing with mine. I'm actually on my second pad for other reasons, but I didn't notice the charger getting as hot with my first one. But it only seems to get hot when actively charging. I've checked it after letting it sit still plugged in, but after it finished charging and it was fine.
I just try not to leave it charging if I'm sleeping or going out. Although, I forgot to unplug it this time...
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can we charge the tablet via the pc usb port?
its hard not to leave the tablet charging over night when your using every day
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can we charge the tablet via the pc usb port?
its hard not to leave the tablet charging over night when your using every day
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No. Other threads in this forum tell you why.
the reason the charger gets so hot is it's 15 volts
and it takes minimum 12 volts for the tablet to kick into charging mode
so to answer your question
a usb port does charge the tablet, but usb is only 5 volts
so it will not show charging
and it will probably take 24 hrs to fully charge
Mine gets hot while charging but once it hits 100% it cools back down. I don't charge it while sleeping for this reason. Also according to the manual the PC will charge it bult as previously mentioned it takes longer. The tablet must be powered off when charging this way or it won't charge.
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Same as other itt, it will heat up when charging, but if it's left in the wall unplugged from the tab/dock it cools back down.
Perhaps it needs 12v for full charge speed, but the 300 also trickle charges when plugged into a computer USB port.
i have notice that, when it finishes charging, that just cools down, i was just wondering did i get a faulty one, but as ye say its normal
thanks for all the replys
Luca
even there the charger gets very hot, so it is normal, also, we are going to have very hot temps these days, (40°C here)...
just be sure to not plug it near easy flammable things!
ciao
Yes we have noticed the charger gets very hot might have something to do with fast recharge time the device has
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Good evening,
On my charger i notice it is wrting : "output 5v--2A or 15v --1.2A"
This mind that i can use the charger for any phone that charge usualy wiht 5V ?? Do the charger "swap" the voltage by him self if it's not connect to the tablet ???
I don't want to burn my HTC, but to have one charger for the tablet and the phone will be good when travelling
Thanks
Yann
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yannmrt said:
Good evening,
On my charger i notice it is wrting : "output 5v--2A or 15v --1.2A"
This mind that i can use the charger for any phone that charge usualy wiht 5V ?? Do the charger "swap" the voltage by him self if it's not connect to the tablet ???
I don't want to burn my HTC, but to have one charger for the tablet and the phone will be good when travelling
Thanks
Yann
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The charger that comes with the Transformer is dual-purpose. If you plug in a Transformer tablet, it'll output the 15V to rapid-charge your Transformer. If you plug in a USB device, it'll output 5V at 2A to rapid-charge your USB device.
If you're wondering how it can tell the difference, Pin #7 on the USB3 Transformer cable is grounded -- this is how the charger can tell the difference between a Transormer and an ordinary USB device.
yannmrt said:
Good evening,
On my charger i notice it is wrting : "output 5v--2A or 15v --1.2A"
This mind that i can use the charger for any phone that charge usualy wiht 5V ?? Do the charger "swap" the voltage by him self if it's not connect to the tablet ???
I don't want to burn my HTC, but to have one charger for the tablet and the phone will be good when travelling
Thanks
Yann
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In fact the charger of Asus is quite tricky. I haven't found any substitution, only stock charger can be used.
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In fact the charger of Asus is quite tricky. I haven't found any substitution, only stock charger can be used.
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the connector look to be non standard as if you put an usb extension cable it wont charge.
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the connector look to be non standard as if you put an usb extension cable it wont charge.
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It's not a non-standard connector -- it's a USB 3.0 connector.
If you use a USB 3.0 extension cable, it will work. If you use a non-USB 3.0 extension cable, the charger won't see that pin 7 is grounded, so you'll just get 5V instead of 15V. There's no bi-directional communication between the two.
The Transformer will charge when it sees 12V to 15V on what's typically the 5V pin.
The Asus charger will output 15V (earlier units were 12V) when it senses pin 7 is grounded.
Also, if you'd like to build your own power supply -- get any old female USB connector, and send 12V to 15V on pin 1 instead of 5V, and you've got yourself an Asus Transformer charger. Just don't plug anything else into it, since there's no safeguard to prevent 12-15V going into a 5V device. I've painted mine orange so I don't mistake it.
Hi, my Transformer pad won't charge normally when I connect it to the power adapter direclty - it doesn't show it's charging (though I can tell it is, because after some half an hour it had 2 % more of battery)... can it be that the charger doesn't recognize the tab and gives only 5V? Why? It works normally when I charge it on the docking station (through the power adapter), and the same cable works normally when I use it to transfer media to the pad from the PC...
P.S. When conneted to the power adapter directly, the orange light on the power button of the pad doesn't go on... it only goes on when the pad is on the dock and the power adapter is plugged into it.
Any ideas?
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The charger that comes with the Transformer is dual-purpose. If you plug in a Transformer tablet, it'll output the 15V to rapid-charge your Transformer. If you plug in a USB device, it'll output 5V at 2A to rapid-charge your USB device.
If you're wondering how it can tell the difference, Pin #7 on the USB3 Transformer cable is grounded -- this is how the charger can tell the difference between a Transormer and an ordinary USB device.
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krhainos said:
It's not a non-standard connector -- it's a USB 3.0 connector.
If you use a USB 3.0 extension cable, it will work. If you use a non-USB 3.0 extension cable, the charger won't see that pin 7 is grounded, so you'll just get 5V instead of 15V. There's no bi-directional communication between the two.
The Transformer will charge when it sees 12V to 15V on what's typically the 5V pin.
The Asus charger will output 15V (earlier units were 12V) when it senses pin 7 is grounded.
Also, if you'd like to build your own power supply -- get any old female USB connector, and send 12V to 15V on pin 1 instead of 5V, and you've got yourself an Asus Transformer charger. Just don't plug anything else into it, since there's no safeguard to prevent 12-15V going into a 5V device. I've painted mine orange so I don't mistake it.
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Good info to know, Krhainos. Thanks for sharing that with us. I've been wondering about using the Asus plug for other USB devices I have and the information you supplied answered those questions. :good: