Will the evo 3D save the 3D pictures as Jpeg, or is there some kind of 3D filetype out there already? Also, what about 3D video? Mp4? (I know people might not know this yet, since it's not released)
On video, I dont know what it uses, but I supplied what it can play. If I had to guess I'd go with MP4 so that it can be watched on other devices as well being that it is very popular.
Photo Format: JPG
Video Formats: MP4/Xvid/H.263/H.264/WMV player
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I had the optimus 3d for a week and the pictures were saved as .jps (jpeg stereoscopic, i think) and the videos were saved as .mp4
so even though it's stereoscopic, these are regular old Jpegs that can be displayed in 2D, on any display with any software that handles typical Jpegs? And does the same go for video?
If its anything like my 3DS it makes 2 copies when you take one pic, one is a .jpg and the other is .mpo. The .mpo is only viewable on 3D screens and you use the normal .jpg for MMS, Facebook, and stuff like that. But nobody knows.
I've been informed by HTC the video is mp4 with a 3D header (side by side)
Photos are JPS (industry standard, Stereo JPEG) which is basically a renamed JPEG file with both images side by side, right eye on the left, left on the right (cross eye)
you can rename them to view on a PC but you will see both photos at the same time.
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There's been no mention of QIK upgrading to support 3D video, has there?
It would be really cool if I could stream live 3D footage from concerts I attend.
I guess the question is, more generally, what support is there on the web as a whole for 3D photos and video? Presumably at the very least, I can save the images in a red/cyan format and force my friends and family to don 3D glasses to view my facebook albums?
I'm sure an entire cottage industry will grow allowing Evo 3D owners to get lenticular photos and holograms created of their pictures
Well, I plan to watch a lot of 3D stuff while I'm on the train and youtube isn't available. I'd like to have a compiled list of how to properly convert videos to 3D in order to be watched on the Evo, (like blu-ray rips etc.) as well as any other 3D sources that pop up such as games or apps.
If anybody has any ideas or insight, post away!
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HD MKV Scene rips play fine in the gallery, actually they are quite fantastic looking, but there is a problem with the sound. I've downloaded several other players and any of them that do play with the sound start to suffer from video lag. If anybody knows how an efficient way to re-encode the audio portion only, which should be substantially quicker than re-encoding a whole video, please share!
I downloaded the Wondershare trial program as somebody had mentioned on another forum. It is EXTREMELY simple to use. You load your video, click the device icon, select Convert to 3D, and it is the second mp4 option (side by side images). Since it was the trial version I could only convert 3 minutes of video, but I tried with HD rips of Modern Family, Family Guy, and Arrested Development. The files took about 3 min to encode and were about 175 mb for 3 min of video (from a ~600mb source mkv). I transferred them to the root dir and opened them in the gallery. You will see side by side images, but if you hit menu there is an option to play in 3D.
For the most part, it was hit or miss depending on the scene. I think the software is not just junk, but actually does what it says. The main problem comes into play where most standard television/films aren't filmed with 3D in mind, and thus do not have optimal viewing angles for depth with rear objects. Also, cameras tend to switch scenes/angles quickly so by the time you realize something is in 3D the camera has switched.. during a dialogue where the camera switches the focus between several actors in a conversation, for example. There were some scenes that really had the 3D effect as if it was completely designed that way.
I'm going to play around with it some more and see if I can come up with anything interesting. Also, encoding to 3D kept the same high quality video (god, this screen is f**king amazing) and fixed the audio problems, and I didn't touch any settings. Open, find file, convert to 3D, no settings or anything besides output folder.
Side note: HTC Sense 3.0 rocks!!! They really got it right this time! I love it so far. I changed my background to a live one which is affected by the weather. There were thunderstorms last night and when I would try to unlock the screen you'd be surfing through the clouds with a lightning affect. I thought it was pretty sweet. The whole UI seems silky smooth.
Anyone know of a fairly automated or easy way to convert wmv or other 3d video to play in 3d on the evo? Ive been playing with handbrake and a few others without success. Vids play, but show 2 screens side-by-side. Somehow, something is missing that tells the Evo movie player to play as 3d. Ideas?
Ok nevermind! Solved my own issue. Handbrake seems to work fine. Use guide found here: http://www.knowyourcell.com/htc/htc...fer_them_to_the_htc_evo_3d.html#comments_form
Start playing with vid player. While movie is playing, hit menu button. Option to play in 3D\2D appears. Select 3d and continue playing vid! ImDumbSometimes...
I'm curious about this myself.
So the movies you are converting, what format are they in? MKV or some other file type?
Handbrake keeps their formatting (2 videos side-by-side)?
Thanks for any help.
Faluzure said:
I'm curious about this myself.
So the movies you are converting, what format are they in? MKV or some other file type?
Handbrake keeps their formatting (2 videos side-by-side)?
Thanks for any help.
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Yes, Handbrake will keep the files in side-by-side. Following the instructions in the knowyourcell linke, you'll typically be converting a MKV into an MP4. But your Gallery app is smart enough that when you watch the video and hit settings-->3D, it'll merge the screens.
HOWEVER, I was never able to get the Handbrake solution to give me good audio. So I tried Freemake and it was very successful and a little faster I think. Here's my writeup:
****TWO PRELIMINARY NOTE: (1) Please note that this is only to be used for 3D video files that you OWN THE RIGHT TO USE. (2) This guide will be most useful to those trying to convert a .MKV file, which is a type of 3D video file that is always (in my experience) "side-by-side" (technically called HALF side-by-side or half-sbs) meaning if you were to play the file on a non-3D device it would simply show two identical videos running side by side. It's THIS kind of 3D file that I've had success with so far; I've had a harder time finding solutions with "top/bottom" (also called "over under" 3D files where one image is ABOVE the other.******
Ok, now that that's out of the way, let's get started
For Starters, You'll Need:
A) The 3D file you want to view on your HTC Evo 3D
B) A connection to the internet
C) Your HTC Evo 3D (of course )
D) Your USB cable to connect your EVO 3D to your computer (this came with the phone)
Next, Your computer will need some Video Conversion Software:
DOWNLOAD: I've heard of several different programs working, but my favorite by far has been Freemake Video Converter, which you can download on your computer by going here by clicking the green "DOWNLOAD" button in the top-right corner of the page. (Once you click the DOWNLOAD button, you'll be sent to CNET.com, a very trusted tech news and download site, so you know it's a safe place to download a file!).
Launch: Launch your freshly-downloaded Freemake Video Converter.
We're halfway done!
Find Files to Convert: Now that the program is open, click either the "+ Video" or "+DVD" button in order to browse your hard drive for the 3D movies you want to make viewable on your EVO 3D. Double click on them to add them to your queue. (Remember, these should be side-by-side 3D videos--probably with file extension .MKV)
Notice how each file you double click on simple gets added to the list (queue) in the big white middle of the program. So Freemake automatically builds a queue and will let you convert ALL your files with one click later on! However, if you just want to convert one file, find it, double click it to put it in your queue, and move on
Once you've lined up your files, go to the bottom of Freemake and click "To Android."
Click the drop-down menu under "Preset", go all the way to the bottom and click "Add Your Preset" (or just click the green plus sign)
Name your new preset "Evo 3D" or something you'll remember, then apply these settings:
- Frame size: size up to
- Width: 960
- Height: 540
-Adjustment: Original
-Video Codec: H.264
-Frame Rate: Original
-Bitrate Type: Custom
-Bitrate (Kbps): 1500
Then for audio, click the "Custom Audio" button and use these settings:
-Audio Codec: AAC
-Channels: Stereo
-Sample Rate: 48000 Hz
-Bitrate: 256
Click OK and it should save your new preset. Now choose the file path that you want to save your new files to (note: you can't change the file names of your converted files at this point). Note that this conversion will leave your original file INTACT and in their ORIGINAL place and simply make converted COPIES.
Click CONVERT and THAT'S IT! You're Done! Check the status bar, but after about 20-50 minutes a regular movie should be done.
Now that conversion is complete:
-Plug in your Evo 3D, access the SD card from your PC, and copy/paste the newly converted file onto your SD card (What most of us do is create a new folder on the SD card called "Video" and then place all our converted files here).
-Use GALLERY to watch your movies--it should find the files automatically. When watching, it will usually start by playing the file as two images side by side. Just make the video fullscreen, THEN hit the options button and choose "3D", confirm, and there you go!
**NOTE: Not all of the above steps/settings may be necessary, and there are probably some great ways to improve it...but this way should get you a pretty good, very cool 3D video on your phone! Although don't forget the end result can never be better than what you start with!**
Thanks again. After I initially replied, I found both your tutorial threads on SU & XDA.
You rock dude. I noticed Handbrake literally made my computer slow to a crawl (100% CPU on multiple cores). I read that the other software you mention actually uses the GPU, which is better IMO.
I used the settings you provided in freemake. They work but I would recommend using a higher bitrate. The Evo 3d records at 1280x720 at 5200kbps at 29fps. At 1500 they are choppy and in some areas show artifacts. You might want to up the bitrate. The difference between the resolution wasn't noticed. Also lowering the frame rate helps save some space.
what is the term for a video file with side by side video? I'm not having much luck finding any sample videos except on youtube and I wanna play with 3D more than I do lol
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what is the term for a video file with side by side video? I'm not having much luck finding any sample videos except on youtube and I wanna play with 3D more than I do lol
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Sbs or Sbs half is what I heard somewhere. Google Sbs 3d videos some will pop up
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Hey thanks for this info I know I'm reviving a zombie thread.
Two Additions
1. I just have to figure out how to swap left and right eyes.
2. The software is still "free" however they try twice to install crapware on your computer. Click advanced install and don't agree to the first EULA.
Looking for a video editor that can edit the 3d video from the evo 3d and keep it in a format that can be uploaded to YouTube.
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you need any editor that can edit h264 with aac audio within mp4 container
then export as the same, when uploading to youtube just put in the right yt3d keywords
I use Adobe Premiere for mine
The trim software that came with the 3d phone is a great addition. I've used it a lot since shooting with my EVO 3d. It helps to shrink the video's to fit on youtube without needing a wifi connection.
How exactly did you use premier to edit the video? I tried premier it always messed up the format. I think tried the new vegas with 3d support. That would mess up the file as well. tried a few other editing programs with 3d support and none of them even recognize the video as being 3d and try to make it 3d and thus why they all dont do it right.
It always shows up with two views when i try to look at it again on the device, sometimes with four.
I just want to edit together simple clips nothing too crazy.
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How exactly did you use premier to edit the video? I tried premier it always messed up the format. I think tried the new vegas with 3d support. That would mess up the file as well. tried a few other editing programs with 3d support and none of them even recognize the video as being 3d and try to make it 3d and thus why they all dont do it right.
It always shows up with two views when i try to look at it again on the device, sometimes with four.
I just want to edit together simple clips nothing too crazy.
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you don't need 3D editing software, the actual video is 1 file with them side by side, load it in to a 720p project, the video will fit in to that fine, edit as you would normally, then export as 720p too
nothing else to do, it's that simple
Magix Movie Edit Pro 17 Plus HD supports 3D video editing.
I saw this just the other day and the article was in my trash, but here is a link to the article that talks about it and a bunch of other video editors.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2365581,00.asp
ok ive done that already it wont work. The video shows up as two images on the device when I try to watch it. Im trying to edit the video to watch it on my evo 3d. Whenever I upload it to the device directly or to youtube it messes up the 3d and plays with the two pictures and sometimes four side by side.
What export setting are you using besides 720p? Are you able to watch the video on your evo 3d?
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ok ive done that already it wont work. The video shows up as two images on the device when I try to watch it. Im trying to edit the video to watch it on my evo 3d. Whenever I upload it to the device directly or to youtube it messes up the 3d and plays with the two pictures and sometimes four side by side.
What export setting are you using besides 720p? Are you able to watch the video on your evo 3d?
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when playing press menu > play in 3D
it's the only way to do it at the moment (or end the name of the file with "3D")
What are the Adobe Premiere settings that you are using to edit EVO 3D footage. My project is 1280 x 720, 29,97, 441Hz Compressed. Premiere loads the mp4 into the timeline then Premiere locks up. I am using CS4 Premiere Pro.
Try videora for android
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I use wondershare ultimate, its like $65 BUT if you know where to look its fr33.
Normally I dont indulge in things of that nature, $65 for software that will be used for me and my phone only (no uploading/sharing) is a little high.
Go ahead flame on, just remember when pointing a finger you have 3 pointing back at you
hey guys.
is either photo format better than the other? my tv unfortunately can't reproduce either .mpo or .jps, but i wonder if either one can give a better image simply because it'll compress less or something.
what about video format? I would assume .mp4 is a better format? my tv thankfully plays both formats just fine, so i've been watching my videos on it. i can't tell a difference between a format and the other, but haven't done extensive comparisons yet.
any other suggestions on how to get the best image quality for pictures and/or videos on this phone are welcome
I really wouldn't say there is a best format... would really depend on the device you are viewing on.
But I put Inception in 3D on my phone. Was a MP4 file but .m4v extension.
I've switched to using .jps as my standard 3D image format, because when viewed in a standard image viewer on a non-3D setup it displays as two side-by-side images (whereas .mpo simply won't display in most 2D image viewers).
I haven't noticed any difference between the image quality of the two formats.
thanks for the info. i'll use .jps and .mp4 then. hopefully samsung will update the firmware to support either photo format soon