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Ok im still new with Android. I rooted my att aria. this is my rom version below. Ive been reading up a bit on how to use an SD card to install apps to instead of internal memory. I dont want to use it all up i hear that your phone can crash etc.
But not sure if my rom supports Using an external SD instead of internal memory. I have the app: "Rom Manager" which has those options to do with the external.
Just wondering what Roms for the aria support this . Ive seen alot of tutorials and not one of them are the same as the other. so wondering where the best spot for a tutorial would be for the "Aria"
Thanks
Rom Version: Liberated Aria Fr008 (FRF91)
pcrat said:
Ok im still new with Android. I rooted my att aria. this is my rom version below. Ive been reading up a bit on how to use an SD card to install apps to instead of internal memory. I dont want to use it all up i hear that your phone can crash etc.
But not sure if my rom supports Using an external SD instead of internal memory. I have the app: "Rom Manager" which has those options to do with the external.
Just wondering what Roms for the aria support this . Ive seen alot of tutorials and not one of them are the same as the other. so wondering where the best spot for a tutorial would be for the "Aria"
Thanks
Rom Version: Liberated Aria Fr008 (FRF91)
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That ROM has DT A2SD support, so all that you need to do is create an EXT partition on the SD card using ROM Manager and you should be good to do.
Great thanks. I hear talk that ext 2 is better than 3, an others say it the otherway around... so does it REALLY matter?
pcrat said:
Great thanks. I hear talk that ext 2 is better than 3, an others say it the otherway around... so does it REALLY matter?
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I used whatever the default in ROM Manager is.
pcrat said:
Great thanks. I hear talk that ext 2 is better than 3, an others say it the otherway around... so does it REALLY matter?
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ext2 is supposed to be easier on your SD card. ext3 uses journaling, which is said to wear down your sd card faster than normal. Not sure how much faster, or if it even has any affect on todays SD cards.
What the journaling does is it writes to the sd card on the fly so if the phone has an unexpected crash/shutdown, you have a better chance of everything on the ext being saved and less chance of any data loss/corruption. Ext2 doesnt have this protection. When I was running ext2 i never once had any problem with data loss/corruption. Rom Manager now does ext3 by default so I upgraded to ext3. If i could get ext4 support on cm7 I would upgrade to ext4.
Performance wise, there is no difference between ext2 and ext3. Ext4 however supposedly offers a performance increase. Ive not used ext4 on an sd card so I cant speak to that.
CallMeAria said:
ext2 is supposed to be easier on your SD card. ext3 uses journaling, which is said to wear down your sd card faster than normal. Not sure how much faster, or if it even has any affect on todays SD cards.
What the journaling does is it writes to the sd card on the fly so if the phone has an unexpected crash/shutdown, you have a better chance of everything on the ext being saved and less chance of any data loss/corruption. Ext2 doesnt have this protection. When I was running ext2 i never once had any problem with data loss/corruption. Rom Manager now does ext3 by default so I upgraded to ext3. If i could get ext4 support on cm7 I would upgrade to ext4.
Performance wise, there is no difference between ext2 and ext3. Ext4 however supposedly offers a performance increase. Ive not used ext4 on an sd card so I cant speak to that.
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cm7 has ext4 support in even the stock kernel
or are you talking about s2e?
drowningchild said:
cm7 has ext4 support in even the stock kernel
or are you talking about s2e?
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maybe its s2e then. I know s2e can mount my ext3 as ext4, but if I actually format to ext4 it wont mount. I thought the problem was with cm7, but I guess it must be s2e just doesnt support it.
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maybe its s2e then. I know s2e can mount my ext3 as ext4, but if I actually format to ext4 it wont mount. I thought the problem was with cm7, but I guess it must be s2e just doesnt support it.
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s2e says it has support for ext4 without journaling in the latest update
havent tried but i used DT with ext4 and it worked fine but i didnt like DT, as it caused random issues too much
drowningchild said:
s2e says it has support for ext4 without journaling in the latest update
havent tried but i used DT with ext4 and it worked fine but i didnt like DT, as it caused random issues too much
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I think that's the mount as ext4 option, which mounts the ext3 as ext4 without journaling. I just started using it a couple days ago and I haven't noticed any concernable diffrence though. Maybe ill try formatting to ext4 again and see if s2e takes it now.
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ok well, i tried the rom manager and it dont work. so i did it manually. use a partition editor. First Partition is Fat32 approx 1.6 GIGS second partition is ext2 approx. 250 MB so how do i know if the apps will install or not to the ext2?
Thanks
pcrat said:
ok well, i tried the rom manager and it dont work. so i did it manually. use a partition editor. First Partition is Fat32 approx 1.6 GIGS second partition is ext2 approx. 250 MB so how do i know if the apps will install or not to the ext2?
Thanks
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Open up the Terminal Emulator program. Grant it root access when the Super User prompt comes up.
At the # prompt, enter:
a2sd status
It will then print out the status of the a2sd application.
Ok i got it working.. but now alot of my apps dont work. and also neither does the Android market...
1.5GB Fat32 | 250MB Ext3 | 32MB Linux Swap
Try a2sd repair.it will reinstall everything again.been using dt since november and never had problems with it.
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ok i tried that that didnt work. I even did it before i put the Sdcard back in.
If I misunderstood you Im sorry.but you can't remove your SD card at all when running dta2sd.if you do it will mess up.
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Also if your using the included version of dt you might try the latest stable one 2.7.5.2 there are betas but they've always give me problems.
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ok i see. i did the a2sd while i had my sd in the laptop. its ok i backed up the rom first. just reflash and try again...
I was wondering about that..
Thanks will let ya know....
I download dtapps2sd-2.7.5.2-signed but cant find it.. sorry a bit new to this still.
once i flash it in recovery mod how do ya access the dtapps2sd then?
That was the problem,, all is transfered now.
Thanks a bunch.
If you downloaded with the xda app it will be in tapatalk downloads. If you downloaded through your browser its in the plain download folder.fr008 comes with astro you can use it to move the file to your SD root if you like but you can browse folders while in recovery also
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Hi All,
I have asked this question a few days back and now i got a solution for this so posting the details here.
So here are tips and tricks on how to partition your SDCARD and still get it detected by the Phone.
Ohk so first off all credits
this method is not my own i have got tips from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11687387&postcount=6
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=811548 <- check the first post right after the quoted portion. That also suggest that last partition is used by froyo.
Based on this i started on the experiments and this is what i found.
Note : I have 3 partition right now.
500 MB = vfat first partition
1.5 GB = ext2 - kept for linux dualbooting experiments
5.4 GB = vfat second partition.
Based on my experiments this is what i can see.
first and last partition should be vfat.
first partition is available in recovery mode.
last partition is detected by froyo.
So if you want to use multiple partition then you need to make sure of keeping the following things in mind..
Note to MOD : Mod i thought this is related to DEV hence posted in this if this sounds more like a Q&A or other forum material please move the post to correct forum.
And why would I need it or what's the advantage of doing this?
FabricioGS said:
And why would I need it or what's the advantage of doing this?
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as of now u wont...
but this brings up possibilities to have multiple OSes on SDCARD (without need of loop mounting)...
something like on mult OS ibooting HDDs...
FabricioGS said:
And why would I need it or what's the advantage of doing this?
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Right now nothing of use to normal user.
however as dev's are working on custom kernel and DooMLorD working on custom kernel manager and ROM manager scripts.
I thought having mutiple partitions can also help. So did an experiment .
However explicitly for me its basic usage is for Experiments on Linux dual booting on X10i
Nice find!
But we still can't use Link2SD, right?
My_Immortal said:
Nice find!
But we still can't use Link2SD, right?
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Didn't tried but we can i suppose after getting our partittions to properly mount.
also why Link2SD when you already have app2sd in froyo.
anantshri said:
Didn't tried but we can i suppose after getting our partittions to properly mount.
also why Link2SD when you already have app2sd in froyo.
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Links2SD moves much more data to SD than native Froyo.
And also, I can use the SD as storage without the apps becoming unavailable.
And I can move any app whether it supports it or not!
My_Immortal said:
Links2SD moves much more data to SD than native Froyo.
And also, I can use the SD as storage without the apps becoming unavailable.
And I can move any app whether it supports it or not!
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Alright so you added one more task for my testing.
1) check how to automount other partitions
2) check Link2SD working
give me some time and i will check and report back that.
This is good info mate. Good news (hopefully) for those of use that prefer Link2SD.
Just what I'm looking for for Dec my next rom
Thanks
Does it work for ext4 partitions
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rdannar said:
Just what I'm looking for for Dec my next rom
Thanks
Does it work for ext4 partitions
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Should work... we were also checking if we can have 3 to 4 logical partitions inside an extended partition...
Anantshri told me that the only requirement is that the last partition needs to be vfat
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DooMLoRD said:
Should work... we were also checking if we can have 3 to 4 logical partitions inside an extended partition...
Anantshri told me that the only requirement is that the last partition needs to be vfat
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It should work with ext4 also however not tested yet
also i am a bit skeptical coz read a lot about journaling have bad effect on SD CARD's life.
hey BTW can somebuddy point me to a place where i can purchase good SDCARD say for 16GB or more size. I am currently stuck with 8GB stock card by SE.
and you can guess it gets preety small for testing these stuff.
anantshri said:
Alright so you added one more task for my testing.
1) check how to automount other partitions
2) check Link2SD working
give me some time and i will check and report back that.
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Link2SD i tried installing however it seems to have some issues detecting my partition.
I have
following layout right now
800MB - vfat - part1
1.6 GB - ext2 - part2
5 GB - vfat - part3
so we might need to look at the source code of the application
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Link2SD i tried installing however it seems to have some issues detecting my partition.
I have
following layout right now
800MB - vfat - part1
1.6 GB - ext2 - part2
5 GB - vfat - part3
so we might need to look at the source code of the application
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Yeah, Link2SD detects the second primary partition only,
so maybe we can talk to the developer to implement a workaround
for issues like ours!
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Yeah, Link2SD detects the second primary partition only,
so maybe we can talk to the developer to implement a workaround
for issues like ours!
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All 3 of my partitions are made primary i did took care on that part.....
there is still some kinkyness left .
I have PM'ed the dev to seek his guidence on that lets see what we can get as response from him.
anantshri said:
All 3 of my partitions are made primary i did took care on that part.....
there is still some kinkyness left .
I have PM'ed the dev to seek his guidence on that lets see what we can get as response from him.
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Thanks for all your efforts!
So, if I partition my SD like that to experiment,
will there be a problem with Froyo apps2SD and the vfat partition?
DooMLoRD said:
Should work... we were also checking if we can have 3 to 4 logical partitions inside an extended partition...
Anantshri told me that the only requirement is that the last partition needs to be vfat
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cool will try it with my class 10 sd card
zabihjan said:
cool will try it with my class 10 sd card
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Hey buddy just my thought out loud....Please don't flame me if that doesn't work for you. its working for me and that's why i posted. I think this a common rule for dev threads however just stating it again here.
My_Immortal said:
Thanks for all your efforts!
So, if I partition my SD like that to experiment,
will there be a problem with Froyo apps2SD and the vfat partition?
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(from wht i gather) froyo+ android versions use /sdcard/.android_secure for native app2sd
there is a A2SD implementation which uses ext2/4 filesystem on sdcard to move apps to
I`m running MiniCM7 2.1.1 with unlocked bootloader and nAn`s kernel installed. but whem I`m trying to mount a second partition for LINK2SD, programme can not see the second partition. It`s saying "Mount script cannot be created. mount:mounting /dev/blocks/vold/179:2 on /data/sdext2 failed: No such device" i made an ext3 partition and choose it in Link2SD app, but it`s still not working any solutions fot this?
As I can see a lot of people have this problem with another phones but nobody except me with our lovely x10 Mini??
I found that it's better to use 2 fat32 partitions with Link2SD
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Thanks for tip will try it now
edit:still not working this time "Device or resource busy"
edit 2: after restart i need to make a script, but after making a script and restarting message with creating script shows again and again everything was fine before updating MiniCM7 2.0.7>2.1.1
anyone any ideas?? i really need 2nd partiton and be able to move applications there
I *think* it could be because gingerbread roms have native app2sd support which could conflict with link2sd as both look for 2nd partition?
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but on older version of the CM7 this feature was working. i think it`s not because of this
why r u trying to use link2sd when gingerbread roms actually have builtin app2sd?
taufiiqqq said:
why r u trying to use link2sd when gingerbread roms actually have builtin app2sd?
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because if I will use native app2sd and mount SD Card to PC or my home audio via USB every application that is moved to SD will stop work. so I want to move them to 2nd partition and then I will not have this problem. but I can`t mount 2nd partition
if you just want to move app to sdcard then you should try my step.
i'm using Paul's Mini CM7Pro which already including native app2sd. So all i have to do is making all three partitions (fat32 5,65 GB--ext2 1,4 GB--the rest for linux swap). Now if you install any apps, they won't taking internal storage as much as before.
sorry if i have bad english
rizkywingrove said:
if you just want to move app to sdcard then you should try my step.
i'm using Paul's Mini CM7Pro which already including native app2sd. So all i have to do is making all three partitions (fat32 5,65 GB--ext2 1,4 GB--the rest for linux swap). Now if you install any apps, they won't taking internal storage as much as before.
sorry if i have bad english
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yeah, but if you move them to the FAT32 partition then they will stop working if you mount SD Card to PC. but I need them work everytime.
gallardo5 said:
yeah, but if you move them to the FAT32 partition then they will stop working if you mount SD Card to PC. but I need them work everytime.
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really ? never happen to me before
gallardo5 said:
I`m running MiniCM7 2.1.1 with unlocked bootloader and nAn`s kernel installed. but whem I`m trying to mount a second partition for LINK2SD, programme can not see the second partition. It`s saying "Mount script cannot be created. mount:mounting /dev/blocks/vold/179:2 on /data/sdext2 failed: No such device" i made an ext3 partition and choose it in Link2SD app, but it`s still not working any solutions fot this?
As I can see a lot of people have this problem with another phones but nobody except me with our lovely x10 Mini??
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Ooops accidentally pressed thanks button
i am using MiniCM 2.1.1 with Link2Sd and have no problems, try updating Link2Sd
and which format is your second partition and is it primary
i made and Ext2 primary partition and clicked ext2 on mounting script it is not having any problems any of it yet
ahub1988 said:
Ooops accidentally pressed thanks button
i am using MiniCM 2.1.1 with Link2Sd and have no problems, try updating Link2Sd
and which format is your second partition and is it primary
i made and Ext2 primary partition and clicked ext2 on mounting script it is not having any problems any of it yet
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haha my first "thanks" so, thanks fot this and I will try this right now
edit: YEAH!!!!!! FINALLY I GOT THIS WORK ON MiniCM 7!!!!! THANKS AHUB!!!!!! i`ve made a new ext2 partition and reinstalled link2sd and then it started to work
Welcome
this may help you :
rogeliodh&chicco's fix
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EDIT :
since your problem is solved, please add a big [SOLVED] in the title so that people can see
awwww............ my problem WAS SOLVED since i restarted my phone. after that link2sd shows "mounting error" and wont mount 2nd partition anymore
edit: and problem is finally.............SOLVED!!!!!! i`ve used the method that matmutant posted and it`s finally works thanks matmutant
edit2: technology doesn`t like me...... maybe it`s a little off-topic but how to change the title to SOLVED??
gallardo5 said:
How to change the title to SOLVED??
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just edit the main post, then press "go advance" and edit the title
Iva also found that multi-mount sd lite does the trick, you dont have to unmount the card from andorid in order to use it (fat32 disk) and so you can access and use the disk as usual from your pc and from you phone at the same time. It for free on the market and is much quicker than mounting using the system tray app!!
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Iva also found that multi-mount sd lite does the trick, you dont have to unmount the card from andorid in order to use it (fat32 disk) and so you can access and use the disk as usual from your pc and from you phone at the same time. It for free on the market and is much quicker than mounting using the system tray app!!
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I`ve tried this method but it wasn`t working for me but right now i`m using ES File Explorer and copying files wirelessly that`s the best way to copy music and another files between PC and phone
hi everyone
sorry if this is a stupid question but is it possible to use the ext4 format on a sdcard on cm7.2?
btw: i have already used the searchengine and found nothing...
sorry for my bad englisch
emyaz said:
hi everyone
sorry if this is a stupid question but is it possible to use the ext4 format on a sdcard on cm7.2?
btw: i have already used the searchengine and found nothing...
sorry for my bad englisch
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Its possible but not advisable to use a journalled file system on sdcards / usb sticks and their like.
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Its possible but not advisable to use a journalled file system on sdcards / usb sticks and their like.
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Hmm.... could he mean creating an ext4 partition and if its compatible with CM7? That was my first interpretation of the question.
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gagdude said:
Hmm.... could he mean creating an ext4 partition and if its compatible with CM7? That was my first interpretation of the question.
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Oh, I didn't see him mention Cm7 ! But my reply still stands
yes its imposimble
No, its possible, you would need to write a script which automounts the ext4 partition at boot as vold won't do that and fixes permissions, as you would get lots of fcs without.
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Yes it is possible. U need to install data2sd (flash from cwm/any custom recovery) or link2sd available in android market.
Search for link2sd and data2sd in google or here in xda.
finance.resat said:
Yes it is possible. U need to install data2sd (flash from cwm/any custom recovery) or link2sd available in android market.
Search for link2sd and data2sd in google or here in xda.
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i think he talks about formatting the whole sdcard with ext4 and mount that partition as sdcard for performance purposes. Correct me if i'm wrong, but thats how i understood that post. I actually tried the same a few months ago, there really seems to be increased perfomance of the sdcard and using fat32 on a linux devices doesn't make too much sense for me anyways.
Matze5800 said:
i think he talks about formatting the whole sdcard with ext4 and mount that partition as sdcard for performance purposes. Correct me if i'm wrong, but thats how i understood that post. I actually tried the same a few months ago, there really seems to be increased perfomance of the sdcard and using fat32 on a linux devices doesn't make too much sense for me anyways.
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yes thats my question...
I always try and use ext4 in my sd cards. Performance seems to be better. The only reason I ever use FAT32 is so that I can view content in Windows.
No sir. U have to use a partitioning tool to format your SD vard. I am a noob. Learned this technique in xda. It's called a "minitool partition wizard home edition". U can create different number of formats all primary though. I used ext4 for a long time. But now I use ext2. The computer only recognises the first primary partition. So the ext2/4 will not be recognised by the pc and with the help of link2sd or data2sd U'll be able to use it as your internal memory if your phone memory is really tiny. It's related to performance but first its related to expanding your internal memory.
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finance.resat said:
No sir. U have to use a partitioning tool to format your SD vard. I am a noob. Learned this technique in xda. It's called a "minitool partition wizard home edition". U can create different number of formats all primary though. I used ext4 for a long time. But now I use ext2. The computer only recognises the first primary partition. So the ext2/4 will not be recognised by the pc and with the help of link2sd or data2sd U'll be able to use it as your internal memory if your phone memory is really tiny. It's related to performance but first its related to expanding your internal memory.
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I know . I am using link2sd but i want to format the whole sd card with ext4 because ext4 is faster than fat32 but if its not possible then i let it...
Sorry for my bad englisch...
Okay, well I posted this thread in the wrong place.. so im wondering if it can be moved to here or not.. but here is my original thread.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2738172
Help would be appreciated please..
really? no one can help me make it so my apps start to install to my sd card from now on? Ive tried using adb to change the install directory.. not seem to be working, idk.. please help though :/
Moved to Q and A, and request OP not to bump threads within twenty four hours, and probably best to be humble in your bumps too, you are asking for help from others, so be nice
no one? :/
bewpy said:
really? no one can help me make it so my apps start to install to my sd card from now on? Ive tried using adb to change the install directory.. not seem to be working, idk.. please help though :/
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use move2sd app
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use move2sd app
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Ive tried it.. it says my external or internal memory is emulatted or something and that my sd card shares the same disk with os? idk what this mean.. i was told to use Link2SD or something instead of move2sd.. and I tried that as well, and couldnt seem to get it to work.. I used Aparted and partitioned my sd card, before hand as well.. maybe im doing something wrong? Anyone know of a tutorial for using aparted/link2sd?
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Ive tried it.. it says my external or internal memory is emulatted or something and that my sd card shares the same disk with os? idk what this mean.. i was told to use Link2SD or something instead of move2sd.. and I tried that as well, and couldnt seem to get it to work.. I used Aparted and partitioned my sd card, before hand as well.. maybe im doing something wrong? Anyone know of a tutorial for using aparted/link2sd?
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Looks like you got an lg phone which has an sd card emulated by your system. Try rom toolbox lite to change install location.
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AshIndigo said:
Looks like you got an lg phone which has an sd card emulated by your system. Try rom toolbox lite to change install location.
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does doing it through rom toolbox work better then doing it through adb? cause I used adb to set install location to external, but that didnt seem to work , unless i did it wrong. but I checked the install location after and it said it was set to external
Okay i set it to external through rom tool box, but when i install an app, my sd card is still empty.
Okay, well I figured out how to get my problem fixed using ROM Toolbox.. I didnt change the default install destination. I made a script that runs on boot that just basically uses my SD card for internal and external both. So now my apps install to my external.
Code:
mount -o remount,rw /
mount -t vfat -o umask=0000 /dev/block/vold/179:61 /mnt/sdcard
mount -o bind /data/media /mnt/sdcard/external_sd
chmod 777 /mnt/sdcard/external_sd
This works for the LG Optimus L9 LGMS769