My wife is fully stock and I'm on the Ultimate KangBang Rom. Both have the ED01 Radio's and no 3G issues that we are aware of.
Since the update, we are both getting far worse battery life.
I have not touched the voltage controls in the rom.
Anyone have any ideas?
Could this be related to a 3G issue we simply are not seeing?
Should I (as she is not rooted) try to reset the battery stats after next full charge?
Should I call 228 to make sure everything is kosher on that end?
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Update:
I unplugged this morning at 7:30ish. 100% battery.
I started this thread at 10:30ish. 75% battery.
~3hrs, light use, lost 25%.
I hit both options in *228 at 10:30ish.
Its now 1:30ish. 71% battery.
~3hrs, light use, lost 4%.
I think the update, in general, just screws up your 3G/roaming etc. This was already known with other issues Verizon had over the last week or so. This seems, to me, as the most likely cause of battery drain.
I'll will come back later to say if anything changes. Also, need to see if wife ran the *228 options on her phone and will report back if findings are similar.
Hey superchunk,
I have a somewhat related post in the general section, and am finding low cell signal together with Google location services are giving me 4-8% batt loss per hr. See below. Also make sure to toggle airplane mode once per boot to workaround the 50% TWOS bug.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1057628
Check what apps you have installed. After I did the full update to ED01, and then replaced the kernel with Imnuts' -100 undervolted kernel, I was getting great battery life until I installed the full Skype client. Even logging out so the program would quit, the battery started draining upwards of 10% per hour, even when the phone wasn't being used.
It seems Android in general, and 2.2 specifically, is pretty vulnerable to errant battery drains. Worst part is that it didn't stop after I uninstalled Skype, so I had to go through the whole process again - back to DL09 and then update.
We've always had google services on (before and after upgrade), so I don't think that has anything to do with it.
Neither of use have Skype and no other apps have been installed anything new (don't use skype), but that doesn't mean something old has a new undesirable effect.
So far, I've ran the *228 options and will see if that helps. I'm thinking we simply haven't noticed 3G dropping and really needed the updates to programming and roaming.
Having a phone constantly searching for its best band will cause quicker than normal dead batteries. This is one of the reasons the Thunderbolt is getting so many negative marks for battery life, LTE just isn't there yet.
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We've always had google services on (before and after upgrade), so I don't think that has anything to do with it.
Neither of use have Skype and no other apps have been installed anything new (don't use skype), but that doesn't mean something old has a new undesirable effect.
So far, I've ran the *228 options and will see if that helps. I'm thinking we simply haven't noticed 3G dropping and really needed the updates to programming and roaming.
Having a phone constantly searching for its best band will cause quicker than normal dead batteries. This is one of the reasons the Thunderbolt is getting so many negative marks for battery life, LTE just isn't there yet.
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Seems the Google location services battery drain was much less of an issue with 2.1.
Update:
I unplugged this morning at 7:30ish. 100% battery.
I started this thread at 10:30ish. 75% battery.
~3hrs, light use, lost 25%.
I hit both options in *228 at 10:30ish.
Its now 1:30ish. 71% battery.
~3hrs, light use, lost 4%.
I think the update, in general, just screws up your 3G/roaming etc. This was already known with other issues Verizon had over the last week or so. This seems, to me, as the most likely cause of battery drain.
I'll will come back later to say if anything changes. Also, need to see if wife ran the *228 options on her phone and will report back if findings are similar.
Have you charged to full and wiped bstats?
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I flashed MIUI Lithium 360 yesterday and I've had a couple of problems with it. I'd post to that forum but since I haven't posted enough to XDA, I can't put this there. It's my punishment for using Search too often and correctly I suppose.
Performance was great all day yesterday after the flash. I let battery drain to 0% then ran calibrate right before bed. In 7 hours I was down to about 20% even though I was asleep. It took about 90 minutes of moderate use this morning to finally kill it. I haven't flashed a new kernel or modded beyond the stock ROM; still using KA7 radio. I believe Android OS was the big culprit in the battery monitor. (sorry no screenshot)
The other problem I'd noticed was that my WiFi would no longer connect to my home network. It was fine last night, but this morning, it listed my network in the history but said it wasn't in range. Confirmed problem was not with WAP/Router. I deleted the connection and tried to reconnect, it saw the connection again, but once I put in the WEP/WPA password, the phone resumed the message that the wifi network was out of range. To be fair, I did not power cycle the phone at that point as I was still waiting to drop to 0% on battery. (not sure if that matters or not - calibration tools don't say not to reboot, but they don't instruct user to reboot either) I'm sure I'll know more after I let it charge to 100% again, and I may update this post to report back.
I updated this phone from CM7.1 yesterday, did all wipes, formatted /system before flashing. Did let it sit and restored the Current theme all per instructions. I did not restore any apps to the phone after flash so previous apps could not be part of the issue.
I did use stock CM extensively on my G1 for years, but I was less than impressed with CM on Vibrant and found it to be lacking.
The battery will need a few charge cycles before it will give you better battery life. Just make sure you calibrate the battery when its fully charged. Now someone else in that thread had the same problem as far as wifi not working correctly. The best way to tackle this is to odin back to stock, root, flash a 2.2 rom then flash miui. Let me know if this helps.
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changed my modem to KB5 and having less problems with wifi. Don't know if it's making a difference anywhere else. Battery use still a little high due to Cell Standby. Seems like it's eating about 5% per hour just idling. I will go through a few more charge cycles and see if it improves.
I've read and read, searched and searched this forum and have not come across my exact problem yet...
I know there have been overheating issues, and I know there have been boot looping problems... all causing terrible battery life, mine has neither. Let me rephrase, my overheating issue is not due to me actually using the phone... On idle (with the screen off), my Rezound only lasts about 2 hours on a full battery. Granted, I live in an area where there isn't full service, but there is some service. I can watch as data is being exchanged with no apps running. What the hell is using data? I have a feeling this is what is killing my battery, the phone is not at all sleeping. I have deselected "always on data" and I turned off fast boot and auto sync.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
BTW, my phone is a bone stock refurb.
Try a factory reset maybe?
I can do that, but it doesn't really solve the problem. It just started doing this yesterday. I've had it over 2 months and haven't downloaded anything different. I would really rather just figure out what is causing it, so I don't have to do a factory reset every time something like this happens. You know? Thanks for your suggestion, I'm afraid that is going to be my last resort right before exchanging it...
Try exchanging the battery first. Start small. Work your way up to the big stuff(exchanging the phone). Why give up the customizations you've done if you just have a bad battery?
I was thinking it may be a bad battery, but it concerns me that I can watch the data stay running even though I'm not using anything that requires it. My brother has a Rezound and I placed mine next to his and literally watched the battery life deplete 10% in 5 minutes while his lost no percentage at all, both were idle with the same screen settings. Is it common for a battery to fail that drastically out of nowhere?
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I was thinking it may be a bad battery, but it concerns me that I can watch the data stay running even though I'm not using anything that requires it. My brother has a Rezound and I placed mine next to his and literally watched the battery life deplete 10% in 5 minutes while his lost no percentage at all, both were idle with the same screen settings. Is it common for a battery to fail that drastically out of nowhere?
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Is it common....no, possible yes, plausible given the circumstances....absolutely.
sanders858 said:
I was thinking it may be a bad battery, but it concerns me that I can watch the data stay running even though I'm not using anything that requires it. My brother has a Rezound and I placed mine next to his and literally watched the battery life deplete 10% in 5 minutes while his lost no percentage at all, both were idle with the same screen settings. Is it common for a battery to fail that drastically out of nowhere?
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If data is constantly being used, something HAS to be using your data. I'd get an app like better battery stats and CPU spy. CPU will show you if your phone is going into sleep mode at all and better battery stats can show you which apps may be causing it.
Do you have the 4G antenna on?
I have betterbatterystats, it shows android system at the top of processes. That program is a little difficult to understand since everything is abbreviated.
I appreciate all of your responses. I just got off the phone with Verizon, they're sending me another phone AND battery for good measure. During lunch today I watched the percentage of my battery deplete while it was plugged into the wall and not being used, used a different charger, nothing. It wasn't even hot. I turned the phone off to try to get it to charge. when I turned it back on, it got to the lockscreen and then restarted itself. Boot looping now. I'm not going to fool with it anymore. Maybe the third Rezound will be better.
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Do you have the 4G antenna on?
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I haven't changed anything from out of the box other than visual properties. I'm assuming the network has a little to do with it, but it started failing way too fast to be a radio problem IMO.
I received my 2nd Rezound last week. First one had the hiss/feedback/interference issue through the headphone jack that escalated to a level of to not being able to use the headphones at all without being painful. Anyway, the new one is running very hot (battery) and is draining the battery almost as fast as you're describing yours to do. I've used both the standard battery and extended. This morning while using it at home on wifi with most of my syncs either disabled or set at a min of 2 hrs it drained my extended battery by 20% in 20 mins. I wasn't even using the internet or streaming any music or video. I was working on setting up calender and task list widgets. Phone is stock, not rooted. I will be calling Verizon tonight to see about getting a 3rd one. Sucks as I really like this phone when it's working properly. If the 3rd one has issues to and HTC isn't rolling out any fixes for them I might have to look at something else. But I don't want to!
I feel like if I can get the hardware to cooperate with me, I can get the software to. I was planning on rooting after the ICS push, but the phone obviously had different plans.
Set your phone to CDMA only, especially if you don't live in an area with LTE coverage. You will see significant battery advantages from that alone.
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Set your phone to CDMA only, especially if you don't live in an area with LTE coverage. You will see significant battery advantages from that alone.
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Thanks, I'll be sure to try that when I get my new phone tomorrow!
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Set your phone to CDMA only, especially if you don't live in an area with LTE coverage. You will see significant battery advantages from that alone.
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I should have mentioned that I'd already done that (only 3G here anyway). I've done all the battery management tricks I've read about but this phone has an issue. I'm not even getting half the battery life out of it that I was on the 1st one. And the battery gets significantly hotter then the other phone.
tried wiping battery stats after 100% and drained/recharged a few times?
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So I'm on stock 4.0.3 now (kernel 3.0.15-I9100XXLPQ). Everything was fine right after the update. But a few days later my phone started to use more battery than it had used: I'd used to have around 60-65% of battery after coming to home from school, but a few days after the update I had like 40%. Also, sometimes I was not getting incoming calls and text messages, despite the fact that the signal bar (sorry, I don't know how you call it in English) was full.
I looked through the threads on xda forums and one guy suggested cleaning the micro USB port. His theory actually made sense for me, so I cleaned my micro USB port. I also installed CPU Spy to check if the phone uses the deep sleep mode.
Today I woke up and after 4 hours I got 91% of battery life. 'Hell yeah, problem solved', I thought. But suddenly the battery drain started again. I asked my friend to call me. He couldn't, because apparently I had no signal, but the signal bar had also been full.
Look at the screenshot. '1' is where the battery started leaking. '2' is where I rebooted my phone. After the reboot everything is fine, but I think this problem will appear again shortly.
These battery drains and losing the signal are really annoying, one night the battery dropped from 50% to 30% in 2 hours without even touching the phone (with WiFi, data transfer, GPS and Bluetooth off). What causes these problems? Can it be related with this bug in ICS?
The thing is that even Samsung hasnt been able to do a proper release as GB. GB stock rom had quite a solid battery life...Many people have seen massive battery drains and in most of the roms phone doesnt go into deep sleep. Hence causing of a lot of battery consumption.Id suggest not to use stock samsung rom and shift to a custom rom or downgrading to GB. I myself have read a lot of threads with the same problem that you are having.
I'll shift to CM9 as soon as these issues with recording and watching videos will be solved.
I can understand the battery drain, but I completely don't know why there's a problem with the signal. It's not that my phone doesn't go to the deep sleep at all. It just glitches at a certain time and the battery leaks and the signal is "lost".
I'll check tommorow if the phone really doesn't go into the deep sleep when the battery is leaking and nobody can call to me.
Bump, because the problem with the signal is really annoying.
I am thinking that its possible that all these poor battery and ICS posts are maybe that the users have not flashed firmware for the phone but rather generic stock some other providers firmware .
As i said only a thought as the majority are not direct firmware updates .
I would be running Better Battery Stats to find the drain anyway .
jje
It's been two or three days since I did the factory reset. Now I'd say that battery got better, but the problem with the signal still occurs.
Which mobile operator are you with?
Plus GSM, I'm from Poland, my Galaxy S II is the international version of course.
Okay, I've installed CM9 on my phone, but this problem still occurs (altough now the screen uses much less battery, due to CM9's better brightness managing).
I'll explain it once again, because now I can describe my problem more accurately:
SGS II shows that I have signal, however, I can't receive calls and text messages. While it's happening, the battery life is dropping a lot faster. By "a lot" I mean 5% in 10-30 minutes when I'm not doing anything at all.
This started happening a few days after update to ICS. What should I do now? Install a modem from GB?
Yes start experimenting with older modems i would look to the last working GB modem you had .
Also some are reporting the later ICS is better than earlier releases .
jje
How do I find out what version of modem I had before?
My wife and I both have the Galaxy S4, verizon flavor.
My phone's battery usage is very nice. Most of the time I go to bed with 30-70% left on the battery. Hers does the same. The only difference is I use my phone a lot and she barely uses it during the day. A couple of texts, maybe a phone call and on occasion an internet search. Before this happened, and I don't know what was the tipping point, she use to charge her phone every third day, now she charges it every night.
Her phone is also 6 months newer than mine. Both are running stock, both are Android 4.3. I have both phones setup as close as possible so I can make comparisons between the two. Obviously she has different needs and will have different apps running/installed.
I have taken all of her apps off the phone and it hasn't changed the battery problem. I have reset the phone and still the battery drain persists.
I have put Battery Monitor Widget and GSam on her phone and I really haven't been able to locate the offending app/program/function. The only possibility is the 1013 system and "AudioOut_2". But that seems unlikely as this drain is about every 20 minutes and goes on all day.
Usually she runs with her phone in minimal activity. Data off, Sync off, GPS off, Power Saving on.
Here is a chart from a while back, everyday looks similar with the drains. My phone has long periods of straight white lines when inactive, hers just keep going down.
can't post the image of the battery chart. Gonna make it more difficult to solve.
Just wondering where to look and if this is something that can be solved or is possibly a phone problem/defect. As I mentioned, mine works nice and I have it setup as close to my phone as possible to get results that can be compared.
first of all im no expert, but i think it could go either way. before assuming its hardware it wouldnt hurt to back everything up, try a factory reset and a wipe mk2 odin flash. then seeing if the issue persists. just throwing my thoughts out there. hope it gets resolved regardless. :good:
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My wife and I both have the Galaxy S4, verizon flavor.
My phone's battery usage is very nice. Most of the time I go to bed with 30-70% left on the battery. Hers does the same. The only difference is I use my phone a lot and she barely uses it during the day. A couple of texts, maybe a phone call and on occasion an internet search. Before this happened, and I don't know what was the tipping point, she use to charge her phone every third day, now she charges it every night.
Her phone is also 6 months newer than mine. Both are running stock, both are Android 4.3. I have both phones setup as close as possible so I can make comparisons between the two. Obviously she has different needs and will have different apps running/installed.
I have taken all of her apps off the phone and it hasn't changed the battery problem. I have reset the phone and still the battery drain persists.
I have put Battery Monitor Widget and GSam on her phone and I really haven't been able to locate the offending app/program/function. The only possibility is the 1013 system and "AudioOut_2". But that seems unlikely as this drain is about every 20 minutes and goes on all day.
Usually she runs with her phone in minimal activity. Data off, Sync off, GPS off, Power Saving on.
Here is a chart from a while back, everyday looks similar with the drains. My phone has long periods of straight white lines when inactive, hers just keep going down.
can't post the image of the battery chart. Gonna make it more difficult to solve.
Just wondering where to look and if this is something that can be solved or is possibly a phone problem/defect. As I mentioned, mine works nice and I have it setup as close to my phone as possible to get results that can be compared.
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Have you tried Better Battery Stats + a Wakelock Detector? Between those two it should be really easy to see if this is a software problem or perhaps a bad battery.
I'll link you to the wakelock detector I use. In my opinion it's the easiest to use.
Here
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.uzumapps.wakelockdetector
You can see wakelocks in BBS as well.... But I just like the options this one gives
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I haven't tried BBS+, but Wakelock Detector has been running since the problem was detected. That is how I found the 1013 and Audio2_Out running. At the beginning it seemed to correlate with the problem but as time moved on it seemed less and less the culprit.
I haven't really found anything using wakelock detector. I could give you some stats off of it tonight when I have access to my wife's phone again.
Any stats that you'd like me to post I can do that. Eventually I'll be able to post that Battery Monitor Widget graph so you can see what is happening.
Pretty sure we can rule out a bad battery. About 99.9% sure.
First things first I would swap batteries between the two phones. Lets rule out a faulty battery first, because trying to figure out battery drain with a faulty battery can be maddening!
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First things first I would swap batteries between the two phones. Lets rule out a faulty battery first, because trying to figure out battery drain with a faulty battery can be maddening!
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OK, all day with swapped batteries. Same thing. My phone is fine, her's is still doing the same stair step battery drain.
About a week and a half ago, my battery went from draining ten percent in a typical day (hour to an hour and a balf of constant use, browsing Facebook, web, email - if I really went ham I might go down in the 80s) to easily closing in on the 50s if not more.
I've tried several factory resets, gotten the lollipop upgrade that just hit, removed apps, upgraded apps - nothing. I'm on stock and haven't had this phone more than a month. Android System is typically the worst offender for battery usage according to the settings monitor.
Please help. I was so impressed and now I'm at a loss.
If you've done factory resets, then I would say, factory reset again and stay on stock apps. Don't install anything else. Monitor what happens with your battery life. My guess is, if you have installed other apps since doing the factory reset, it's an app that is misbehaving, even though you see android system being the main culprit. More than likely, it could be an app that isn't releasing resources correctly or hasn't been updated to run correctly with LP. That usually points to a sign of improper programming, or they haven't update their app yet to perform correctly under LP.
If things are running fine on stock, start adding your apps back one by one. Install one app, leave it for a few days and see what happens. if battery life stays the same, then move onto the next app. Hopefully, you'll find the app that's giving you issues.
If even with just stock apps you are having the issue, then it might be a hardware issue, possibly even battery. But, if it's been working fine before the LP update, I highly doubt that. My best guess is it's a misbehaving app.
I'm still having problems with nothing else but stock apps, unfortunately. The problem started shortly before the update - does that support that it's more hardware or more software related? The phone is still fairly new and though I know that doesn't rule out a bad battery, still kinda hoping I don't have to deal with Verizon and getting a replacement.
Talked to Verizon, they said "we checked, battery's fine." So... guess its not the battery? They said it "could take a month to normalize after the update."
I would buy a replacement battery and install it, see if that helps. They are cheap and it's good to have one anyway. The Ankers come in a 2-pack with a nice universal wall charger.
Verizon is not even bothering to check really, are they ? Did they even loan you a replacement to prove to you it's not a bad battery ? Doubt it. Do it yourself.
It really sounds like you are having excessive battery drain due to a wakelock problem like with Google's update service. Check around here for threads about how to diagnose and mitigate that.
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I didn't expect Verizon to help, but they definitely impressed with just how little they offered. I'm spending today with Wi-Fi and 4G off, unless browsing, for which I turn the latter on. In my half hour lunch I've noticed much, much better battery usage. Thoughts?
Edit: change of location seems to drain it quicker (school vs McDonalds parking lot - former worse than the latter). Signal was three bars in each, though.
I've looked a bit ino wakelocks but will read up on it more tonight. Problem I've found is how many detectors require root access, and I'm not real interested in rooting.
I just got my G3 last night and rooted it and did a few things to minimize battery drain and today, after almost 12 hours of light to moderate use my battery is still sitting at 81%.
Pretty sure there's a memory leak on stock vs985 lollipop... Or at least from what I had read and experienced