Overnight discharge????? - Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

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My Streak is only 3 days old and I am thrilled with it but .....
Last night I shut it off and put it on the wall charger as usual at bedtime. It had about 80% charge left and had been working fine all day.
When I got up this morning and tried to turn the phone on, it said "0% Charge" and shut itself off. I had it on my cigarette lighter/usb charger in the car on the way to work (1 hour) and it still said 0% charge. I have had it on charge from the usb on my desktop computer in the office for 1-1/2 hours now and it says 20% charge.
When the phone is shut off, what the heck could discharge the battery completely in 6 hours????? Could the charger be bad and drawing current from the battery? (Shouldn't happen - poor design if it did!)
If it is REALLY sensitive to input voltage, maybe the USB charger in my car isn't high enough to charge the Dell? (I have seen some usb devices that actually want 5.1 to 5.2 volts to charge.)
Anyway, it is slowly coming up but I need to figure out what killed it over night. Has anybody else had this happen????
Dianne
(40 years an electronic tech and just joined The Cell Phone Age LOL!)

Did you fully shut-down your streak, or just turn-off the screen? There is circuitry that stops the battery from charging once a full charge is reached, as over charging will ruin the battery. So the phone should be on while charging. Another thought... Will it even charge if it's not on?
P.S. the thread title does leave some room for jokes

Yes, the phone will charge while it is powered off.
Your car charger may not have the power needed. I have seen a few posts about the car chargers.
Something does not seem right. While on the wall charger it should have been at 100 percent.
Also, my phone will charge fully in 2 hours on the wall charger, not sure of the time on USB.
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It'll take about 3 H if you are using [email protected]
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Getting stranger!
After two incidents where the phone SHOULD have charged over night but was dead or nearly dead in the morning, I plan to switch to a USB charger that I KNOW is good but .....
When I tried to power up the Streak this morning (after being shut off last night and left on the charger over night) it was TOTALLY dead - didn't even light up again when I plugged it back into the charger! - so I stuffed it in my pocket until I got to work.
I popped the battery out and measured it - no-load voltage showed 4.0 Volts. When I put the battery back in, the Streak booted fine and showed 100% charge! (It was not battery contacts - I cleaned them a few days ago after the no-charge incident).
It appears that there may be something in battery-backed memory that got out of whack and removing/replacing the battery cleared the error state allowing the Streak to boot. This could tie in with the apparent charging problem?
Any ideas?

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Battery problem: Discharging while charging!

Okay so I've this problem where my battery discharges while charging!
I had this problem since wednesday that time I was on stock... So I thought flashing a custom ROM now as of now i'm on SonyStyle still the same problem,
let me elaborate my problem a bit more
-To monitor how much current is discharging n charging! -498 mA while discharging n -298 mA while charging it normally
-So next thing I tried is to charge it while being switched off, most of the times it wont charge n when it'll charge it'll reach some point n starts discharging! Discharging even when its off and plugged to the charger! BIZZARE isnt it?
-Now in order to put it on chrging i've to reboot it couple of times untill battery monitor widget shows +current... N when it reaches 100 it'll begin to discharge like it'll be empty in 1nhalf hour
-ALSO I'VE TURNED OFF ANYTHING THAT SUCKS BATTERY! AND I'M NOT USING MY DEVICE WHILE CHARGING! ALSO IT DISCHARGES WHILE BEING ON CHARGER IN A switched off state.
these things i've already tried
-Flashing custom ROM
-Putting my cell on powersave CPU governor
-undervolting
-charging using USB
-CUSTOMER CARE CENTRE only resets the software
I'M SO FRUSTRATED THAT I'LL BURN THIS CELL INTO ASHES! Anybody help me before I kill thislil fellow!
You might try resetting your battery stats on clockworkmod or xrecovery. Charge until 100% and let it discharge naturally to switch off, allow a few days of charge cycling and it should be ok.
Lipoly batteries dont trickle charge. If you leave your phone on charge for 8 hours it will just switch off the charger, discharge for awhile and then switch back on the charger. Most take 1 to 1.5 hours to charge, so if you leave it plugged in you will be charging/discharging about 6 times in that period. Lipoly have a limited number of charges before they diminish, usually about 500. So if you leave it plugged in you can reduce your battery life span considerably - otherwise it should last a good year and a half before it wears out.
Dont ever try to trickle charge, overcharge or manually discharge a lipoly battery as they have a tendancy to explode.
The good news is lipoly batteries are cheap to manufacture. You should be able to pick up a decent bst-38 (or substitute) on ebay/amazon for around 15-20 euros. Dont be hoodwinked into the 2000mAh batteries, most are fake. My 970mAh can last 2 days on Gintonic rom.
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I had a similar problem with the battery discharging whilst charging.
For me the problem turned out to be my USB cable becoming faulty. It would still transfer data when connected to a computer, but would get a similar problem to the one you describe when charging. Might not be the same problem for you though.
I am now experiencing this problem. I think it is my usb cable too. Will buy another 1 soon. It discharges then charges again when I pull out the cable and plug it in again.
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Well already tried wiping battery stats
heres what I've discovered till now
-The charge current drops as if the battery is at 91% but it isnt even close
-It is either the battery is sending wrong data to charger, or it is faulty
-Not able to explain how n why it discharges even a switched off state???
-Only solution I can think is a charging dock for BST-38
obsidian_eclipse said:
You might try resetting your battery stats on clockworkmod or xrecovery. Charge until 100% and let it discharge naturally to switch off, allow a few days of charge cycling and it should be ok.
Lipoly batteries dont trickle charge. If you leave your phone on charge for 8 hours it will just switch off the charger, discharge for awhile and then switch back on the charger. Most take 1 to 1.5 hours to charge, so if you leave it plugged in you will be charging/discharging about 6 times in that period. Lipoly have a limited number of charges before they diminish, usually about 500. So if you leave it plugged in you can reduce your battery life span considerably - otherwise it should last a good year and a half before it wears out.
Dont ever try to trickle charge, overcharge or manually discharge a lipoly battery as they have a tendancy to explode.
The good news is lipoly batteries are cheap to manufacture. You should be able to pick up a decent bst-38 (or substitute) on ebay/amazon for around 15-20 euros. Dont be hoodwinked into the 2000mAh batteries, most are fake. My 970mAh can last 2 days on Gintonic rom.
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If I leave my cell on charging for 8 hours, then after 8 hours my battery will be zero... It'll keep blinking the red light for hour or more... See thats a wicked problem...
happened to me also, had to use a better cable (don't use thin and/or long cables)
Yeah I tried with a Nokia made cable and its charging flawlessly! This is my first time with a Non-Nokia n so far the experience is not very good!
btw thanxxx a lot for your attention n concern!
- similar (identical) problem, tried similar resolutions (factory reset/sdcard/sim removing/different chargers/battery replacement)
- disassemble my phone... and found out, that micro usb connector replacement is unrealistic.
- watched charge/discharge/voltage/current/temperature process trough battery monitor widget (1 minute sampling)..
- re-calibrated battery many times
RESOLUTION : micro usb connector or connections in mobo is dead. I build charger with current meter. No matter, what says my phone about charging (pluged in - discharging)- any information displayed delays for minutes on phone. IF my external current meter says - "charging", than phone state is "CHARGING" independent from what phone is displaying at the moment. Moving usb charging connector in phone causes current to stop flying to phone or reducing current value. Phone still says "plugged in" and or "charging" on "discharging"...
Temporary resolution: little pushing/deformation on charging connector (male) and LED in charging chain, witch is displaying - charging or not. Every time connecting charger i'm looking on indicator LED and moving charge connector, till LED says "charging" and then no more any moves on phone.
Future resolution: contact-less charging trough inductive coupling

Charge with screen on

Hi, is it possible to make the phone charge whilst the screen is on?
plugged in charger at 37% battery and drove with navigation for 6 hours and when i arrived it was still 37%, would of been nice to charge it at the same time.
On return journey i kept screen off for the last hour so it would charge.
Thank you
It does charge even when the screen is on. I charge it while web browsing and it goes upto 100. You're using a navigation app which is processor extensive(as well as data) so that's why you battery neither dropped nor increased.
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if it wasn't charging your phone would have been flat after an hour, instead you got six hours of satnav and some more for later.
You might find that you can get a bit more if you use a different car charger with a higher ampage, but breaking even is to be expected with SatNav.
Thanks, thats a shame as my SIi charged with navigation on.
I understand its powering the phone but not charging the battery, i use a 2amp charger same as i used for the SIi
USB car chargers are never as good as the wall chargers for charging your phone when the screen is on. I have tried 1 amp and 2 amp car chargers of different brands and like you, if my percentage is say 38% or whatever with screen on, then it will take close to an hour just to put 1% charge. Plug it into wall charger with screen on and it charges much quicker.

Charging phone does not work.

My phone dropped to 7% battery. I let it charge for an hour with airplane mode on and it was at 4% battery. The orange light was on the whole time meaning it was charging. I then turned it off, took the battery out and it went to 13% battery. Soon it went back to 4%. I let it charge again for 2 hours this time and it hadn't moved at all and was still at 4%. I then swapped the stock battery for one from China. It started with 60% battery and after a half hour of charging it went to 54%. Why does my battery drain while it charges? I don't even use it when it's charging so I have no idea why it's draining. I'm running stock ics but it's rooted with 4ext. Any ideas?
Thanks.
Dr.Strangelove. said:
My phone dropped to 7% battery. I let it charge for an hour with airplane mode on and it was at 4% battery. The orange light was on the whole time meaning it was charging. I then turned it off, took the battery out and it went to 13% battery. Soon it went back to 4%. I let it charge again for 2 hours this time and it hadn't moved at all and was still at 4%. I then swapped the stock battery for one from China. It started with 60% battery and after a half hour of charging it went to 54%. Why does my battery drain while it charges? I don't even use it when it's charging so I have no idea why it's draining. I'm running stock ics but it's rooted with 4ext. Any ideas?
Thanks.
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Charge with AC not through an USB plugged to your computer. Your phone is using more battery than the USB port can provide. If you plug it in through the normal AC charger, it should be fine, as it gives out 1.0A, while USB ports typically give out anywhere between 200 to 500mA (at its absolute maximum).
I am using the ac. That message even appears when I use the ac.
Have you tried turning it of and charging?
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I have tried that and it only turns on to what the battery was at before. As I typed this I went from 54% to 21% in about 10 minutes. This is really starting to piss me off. My phone cannot hold a charge. My motorola from 8 years ago could at least hold a charge. This is ridiculous. Thanks so far for the help.
Are you using the factory Amaze Cord to charge your phone?
My factory amaze cord stopped charging via ac. I had it plugged into the wall and it would say usb charging so I'm using a different kind of cord. I've never had a problem using my sisters blackberry cord plugged into the usb converter to ac.
Maybe....just maybe...your devices charging port is defected...
I have some charger from China that goes from the wall straight to my phone without using that charging port and it doesn't charge it either.
China should only be used for one thing...Chinese People
I tried another one of my batteries that had a 60% charge. Within 10 minutes the battery was dead. I have it charging and the orange led is flashing. I waited 20 minutes and tried turning it on. After several presses of the power button it finally turns on. As soon as it gets to the home screen the low battery sound beeps and it shuts down. Seriously what am I supposed to do? This is getting ridiculous.
Thanks.
Have you looked into doing a warranty exchange...
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I have not. This has only happened 3 times or so since I got it a week or so after launch. I didn't suspect it to be a hardware problem. I think the person who suggested the bad power port was correct because my Chinese charger charged it full perfectly and it's been good. It just has to be held at a certain angle to charge. I'm going to go to Telus and try and get a new power port and see, maybe I could get an exchange. I have it rooted though, so would I have to unroot it get the exchange?
Thanks.
Step one, dim the phones lighting.
Then check to see if there's an app keeping the phone awake causing it to drain battery while charging,
If its not an app keeping it awake then you my friend are one of the unlucky owners of this picky phone...
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Ive haad a zero lemon 7000 may battery for months now for my s3, however recently when I plug my phone in to charge, it charges until its full and then I take out the charger, plug it back in in 10 seconds and it charges for up to 3 hours and does the same thing again
mumbai52 said:
Ive haad a zero lemon 7000 may battery for months now for my s3, however recently when I plug my phone in to charge, it charges until its full and then I take out the charger, plug it back in in 10 seconds and it charges for up to 3 hours and does the same thing again
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i didn't quite get your point but if you are saying that the phone takes a lot of time to charge
like way more than it should try a different charger and see if the problem is still there
Or check the spring contacts in the housing. Maybe an after sales or not original Battery has squeezed the contacts
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No what I was asking was, when I plug in my battery, I let it fully charge until my phone says its charged, then I unplug it, wait for 5 seconds plug it back in and it starts charging again for 30 minutes and it Keeps doing the same thing everytime I unplug it and plug it back in
This was how people thought they were "calibrating" their battery. Forcing "juice" into it. Its not healthy. Stop doing it
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^^ What he said...
PLUS, let the battery drain until it is below 10%. Fully charge it (the FIRST time) then let it drain again to under 10%. Take out battery and hold down power for 30 secs then put battery back in and charge it up without turning it on. When full turn it on and see how it goes.
Most if not all modern batteries NEED regular drain to low figures to keep them healthy. Failing to do so causes issues. Also to protect th battery, the software cuts the charge out BEFORE the battery is absolutely 100% charged. Taking it to maximum charge like you have been doing will kill your battery quickly. The software will protect the battery if you charge it up and don't unplug when it gets to 'Charged' but when you unplug it then plug it in again it tries for a new charge - bad for the battery.

My original lg g3 cable is broken? Very slow charging.

I have had my g3 for about 2 months now and the last 2 days i realise that it barely charges. I usually leave my phone overnight and its always at 100% in the morning but 2 days ago i plugged it in at about 15% at 12am and by 9am it was only at 54%. I thought it was really strange but didnt think much of it i took out the battery put it back in and put it to charge again. In 3 hours it was only at 70%. I realised there was something wrong but i couldnt figure out what was causing the problem so i let the battery emptey and tried charging again. Again the charging was extremley slow. So i took my friends charger and it was full in an hour or so. This was a relif knowing it wasent my phone that was the problem. So i decided to see what the problem was i took his usb cable (which was also original) and plugged it into my charger and it charged quickly but when i plug in my cable its slow w even on his charger. Does anyone know whats going on?
I've never had good charging in this phone. Sometimes its super fast other times it barely charges if the screen is on. I have the damn thing plugged in and just saw it drop a percent. Charging port is to blame IMO. Its a piece of ****.
Had the same issue with my 4 months old LG G3. Different cables didn't make a change, original LG Charger was the problem - when charging on external battery it was always fast, when charging on my genuine Nvidia Shield charger it was always fast. So i decided to buy a different charger (i-tec USB Power Charger 2 Port) and also new cable (Wsken X-Cable) and no longer any problems...

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