Is it true that it's impossible to put files larger than 4Gb on either the micro sd card or the phone's internal memory? If yes, can this limitation be overcome? I'm having in view large movie files, primarily.
tyapa said:
Is it true that it's impossible to put files larger than 4Gb on either the micro sd card or the phone's internal memory? If yes, can this limitation be overcome? I'm having in view large movie files, primarily.
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What file system is in use on them?
pulser_g2 said:
What file system is in use on them?
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Well, I don't know for sure, I read that there is a 2Gb ext4 system partition which is allocated to applications, and I don't know about the rest of the internal memory.
SD cards are usually formated as fat32, which puts this 4Gb limitation, and I don't know if the phone will work with a card formated as anything else.
tyapa said:
Well, I don't know for sure, I read that there is a 2Gb ext4 system partition which is allocated to applications, and I don't know about the rest of the internal memory.
SD cards are usually formated as fat32, which puts this 4Gb limitation, and I don't know if the phone will work with a card formated as anything else.
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Hmmm Ok. The EXT4 is /data, and the system partitions. So if it's using FAT32, then you are correct...
I don't think stock rom supports any other filesystems really though.
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Hi, is it possible to increase the size of the partition where the apps are located? in other devices like my iPad I can use the total amount of disk space for apps but in my Galaxy SII if I want to have lot of apps I have a small 2gb partition. Do you know a solution? I need more space for apps...
Thanks!
Are you talking about the internal or external (SD card) disk?
I think the internal disk space is fixed to a custom partition, but if you're using App2SD or any similar script with a partition inside the SD card, you can repartition that partition to fix your needs without problem with any partition editor (like GParted).
I'm talking about the internal memory of the SII ... In other gadgets like Apple we have the entire disk space to install applications if we like.
Do you know a method to increase the space of the app partition? I think that is not a great solution to depend of an SD card, we have a lot of memory on the phone. I don't know why samsung have limited to 2GB the data partition, I think is too small...
Any idea about resize the partitions of internal memory?
ferrnando said:
Any idea about resize the partitions of internal memory?
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Don't know if its possible atm...
What do you have installed that you need +2Gb for apps? Have you considered moving some apps to SD?
/data partition has 2Gb
/sdcard has 8Gb
Both partitions are from the internal memory so moving any app from /data to /sdcard won't affect your speed, since both are internal memory...
PS: Despite the name, /sdcard is internal and /sdcard/external_sd is the external SD Card mounted on the phone.
Hi! AzureusPT thanks for your help... The problem is when I try to move to Sd card a message appears saying that I have to insert an SD Card... so I think that is not possible to move applications to /sdcard internal memory.
Do you know another method?
ferrnando said:
Hi! AzureusPT thanks for your help... The problem is when I try to move to Sd card a message appears saying that I have to insert an SD Card... so I think that is not possible to move applications to /sdcard internal memory.
Do you know another method?
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sd card means micro sd card.. the /sdcard is the internal sd card w/c you can store data internally.. external sd card is your memory card.. the way android works is (or sgs2) has 3 partitions, 500+ for rom, 2gb for applications and tge rest for storage.. for games like gameloft which has huge amount of data, the installer itself is in thr 2gb partition while its data is stored in the 11gb + partition.. so no need to worry about running out of space
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As far as I know the SD is formatted as Fat32 and we are limited according to its specs. It means we can't write a file larger than 2GB on it.
Is there any way to format an SD card for Nook as NTFS, ext2, ext3 or anything R/W supported in Windows or OS X natively (or with additional drivers)?
nook_lover said:
Is there any way to format an SD card for Nook as NTFS, ext2, ext3 or anything R/W supported in Windows or OS X natively (or with additional drivers)?
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Windows supports two filesystems: fat, and ntfs.
Of those two, Android only supports fat.
So... no.
cfoesch said:
Windows supports two filesystems: fat, and ntfs.
Of those two, Android only supports fat.
So... no.
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That's a shame. I was downloading a video file larger than 2GB and then my Nook suddenly got rebooted and I realized about the limitation...
And the file size limit is not 2gb but 4gb
Montisaquadeis said:
And the file size limit is not 2gb but 4gb
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so it's Fat32 then? not Fat.
Montisaquadeis said:
And the file size limit is not 2gb but 4gb
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ok. 2gb is for fat and 4gb is for fat32 I guess.
cfoesch said:
Windows supports two filesystems: fat, and ntfs.
Of those two, Android only supports fat.
So... no.
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Window also supports exFAT with file size limit, which is exceeding contemporary mobile storage devices maximum capacity, but, unfortunately, Android doesn't support this file system.
As an alternative, I've tried formating my SD to ext4(Ext2Fsd allows to mount ext2-3-4 partitions on Windows), but NT didn't recognize it.
I found a utility called Drive Mount, it can mount storage device with FAT/NTFS/EXT file systems, but it doesn't support Android 2.x.
I also tried to mount my SD manually, but Nook Tablet handles SD card in a way unfamiliar to me.
If you insert FAT formatted SD card, then NT will mount SD(block device /dev/block/vold/179:17), but if you insert ext4 formatted card(I bet the same goes for ext3 and ext2 too), then NT will not mount anything and /dev/block/vold/179:17 will be inaccessible(the device still will be at /dev/block/vold, but both cat and mount will tell you that there is no such device or address).
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I was able to mount ext4 formated SD card via /dev/block/mmcblk1p1
NT thinks that SD card is blank or has unsupported file system, but it is fully accessible for both read and write.
So if you desperately want to watch some 4+Gb video, you need to format SD to ext2/3/4 and mount it to some empty folder on your NT internal partition, I wouldn't recommend using /mnt/sdcard, though.
If somebody interested, I can make a step-by-step instruction for Windows users.
WHICH FORMAT IS SUITABLE FOR 32 GB SD CARD? I M USING EXT4 FOR EXTERNAL SD CARD,,,ANY PROBLEM WITH EXT4 AS EXTERNAL STORAGE? PLEASE HELP ME :good:
Rajinakd said:
WHICH FORMAT IS SUITABLE FOR 32 GB SD CARD? I M USING EXT4 FOR EXTERNAL SD CARD,,,ANY PROBLEM WITH EXT4 AS EXTERNAL STORAGE? PLEASE HELP ME :good:
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Many people would recommend "exFAT" file system, also some would recommend "FAT32" but due to the limitation of the file size, i won't recommend it, "EXT4" is good, but may not be a good choice for SDcard if you wanted to view the files on the PC using a "SDcard reader" one day, your sdcard then would be limited to read only, so you have 2 options:
1-format it as "exFAT"
2-just put it in the phone, Reformat the SD card with your phone Settings --> Storage/Storage & USB The file system on the freshly formatted SD card is the type that will give you the best performance with your phone.... in other words....(let the phone choose)
Regards Migo
migomujahid said:
many people would recommend "exfat" file system, also some would recommend "fat32" but due to the limitation of the file size, i won't recommend it, "ext4" is good, but may not be a good choice for sdcard if you wanted to view the files on the pc using a "sdcard reader" one day, your sdcard then would be limited to read only, so you have 2 options:
1-format it as "exfat"
2-just put it in the phone, reformat the sd card with your phone settings --> storage/storage & usb the file system on the freshly formatted sd card is the type that will give you the best performance with your phone.... In other words....(let the phone choose)
regards migo
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so exfat is best for sd card 32 gb?
Rajinakd said:
so exfat is best for sd card 32 gb?
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Yes, best for any sdcard
MigoMujahid said:
Yes, best for any sdcard
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but some people saying their default partition format is VFAT,,,,,
Rajinakd said:
but some people saying their default partition format is VFAT,,,,,
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As i told you, Individual files on a FAT32 drive can’t be over 4 GB in size, but in exFAT it has no limitations, if it worked good for you in phone or pc then it's fine, if you faced any problems reformat it to FAT32.
I've been trying to download some some files larger than 4GB. I downloaded them from MEGA but when it finishes the download, the downloaded file is just 4GB when the actual file is like 5.1GB.
I now this happens when trying to copy these kind fo files to the SD card. But why does it happens with the internal storage?
I have more that 14GB of storage free, so that shouldn't be a problem. The file system the data partition is formatted to is ext4.
Is there a way to fix this?
Isley_ said:
I've been trying to download some some files larger than 4GB. I downloaded them from MEGA but when it finishes the download, the downloaded file is just 4GB when the actual file is like 5.1GB ...
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4GB is a fat32 limit. I doubt whether it is a mere coincidence that your files just happen to be limited to that size. Check carefully the format of your internal storage very carefully - it may well be fat32, even though you think it is ext4. If it is ext4, only linux-based OSes will be able to read/write to it (without special drivers).
DarthJabba9 said:
4GB is a fat32 limit. I doubt whether it is a mere coincidence that your files just happen to be limited to that size. Check carefully the format of your internal storage very carefully - it may well be fat32, even though you think it is ext4. If it is ext4, only linux-based OSes will be able to read/write to it (without special drivers).
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This app says its ext4. Then what should I do to be able to have files greater than 4GB?
Or is it better to format my SD card?
I just tried formating my SD card to exFAT but my phone doesn't recognize it. It says it's corrupt. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. How do I fix this?
@Isley_ I don't think you should be trying to format your internal storage with external tools. Let the phone format it, and it should recognise it. In fact, I think the internal storage should be left well alone.
DarthJabba9 said:
@Isley_ I don't think you should be trying to format your internal storage with external tools. Let the phone format it, and it should recognise it. In fact, I think the internal storage should be left well alone.
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The problem is that the phone formats the SD to either FAT32 or VFAT which have a file size limit of 4GB.
Isley_ said:
The problem is that the phone formats the SD to either FAT32 or VFAT which have a file size limit of 4GB.
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Yes, it is a problem. However, not all ROMs support exFAT (probably the problem that you have now run into). You first need to ascertain that your ROM (or kernel) actually supports exFAT. If it does, then you should not have had any problem reading the internal SD.
Perhaps F2FS may be more widely supported, and perhaps this may be a solution to your problem. However, changing your data partition to F2FS will involved losing all your data (including data on the internal SD). I don't have any direct experience with F2FS, so I can't say how helpful it would be in your case. It may come with its own problems. You can experiment with an external microSD card.
is it possible to upgrade the memory inside with more than 128gb? because using the native android 13 move apps to sdcard is unstable. any other tipsto increase storage?
No. Put only apps on the internal memory and all other data on the SD card. Apps should never go on the SD card because of bandwidth limitations.
I corrupted my exFAT32 memory card while writing a single file of 4GB it is not recommended to use SD card unless you move app that you use very often.
Abish4i said:
I corrupted my exFAT32 memory card while writing a single file of 4GB it is not recommended to use SD card unless you move app that you use very often.
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Yeah funny things can happen. I never had a flash memory go corrupt on me unless it was misused in over 15 years and dozens of cards. A good card is very reliable.
blackhawk said:
Yeah funny things can happen. I never had a flash memory go corrupt on me unless it was misused in over 15 years and dozens of cards. A good card is very reliable.
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Try writing a file above 4 GB possibly in .tar format you will see.
Increase Internal Storage .....Keep Dreaming
Do EMMC Reballing
Abish4i said:
Try writing a file above 4 GB possibly in .tar format you will see.
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Never tried it. No reason to. However to load a SD card I transfer over 400gb, largest files being 2gb or so. Largest folder is 242gb. Copy/paste only.
Always do transfer with the card in the phone; don't remove the card to do them. Always format the card in the phone before using. Never share cards with different devices writing to them unless you format it first after the switch. Sometimes, most times you get away with it but it will lead to a corrupted card sooner or latter. Canon cams for one...