I just took a look at Atrix on Motorola AU and UK and in the tech specs it says
"HSDPA 14.4 Mbps (Category 10), HSUPA 2.0 Mbps"
wheras US and CA has 5.76 Mbps (...uncapped that is). But they do have support for UMTS 900 MHz which US and CA lacks.
Does anyone know why this is the case? Is it different radio chips for different markets or is it just software?
Just software. Canadian phone is a world phone version and therefore supports all of that by default. It's simpler to disable upport through software than to have to manufacture completely differnt phones
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seven2099 said:
Just software. Canadian phone is a world phone version and therefore supports all of that by default. It's simpler to disable upport through software than to have to manufacture completely differnt phones
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No the Canadian and US Atrix does not support 3G on 900MHz, the question is why?
seven2099 said:
Just software. Canadian phone is a world phone version and therefore supports all of that by default. It's simpler to disable upport through software than to have to manufacture completely differnt phones
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think so. but is it possible to flash a rom and enable the UMTS900 on those devices who currently don't?
hkdoublecat said:
think so. but is it possible to flash a rom and enable the UMTS900 on those devices who currently don't?
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I've been asking this question a lot on here, and I get a mixed bag of answers and criticism by other users ... but no defined YES or NO...
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Can you use the Samsung Galaxy SII on Tmobile..they are both gsm..if so...does it get 3g and 4g on tmo....i like the look and feel of the att version better than tmos....thanks
You will get voice, txt, and edge data but no 3g. TMo uses a different frequency band than att
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You will get voice, txt, and edge data but no 3g. TMo uses a different frequency band than att
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As tony said, everything works but you only get edge speeds. I know because I am on T-Mobile. Its fine for web browsing and such, but don't expect any HQ YouTube.
Wish i had 3g at least, could care less about 4g, because i like the ATT version the best of the sgs2's. I knew this would happen before i bought it though. Maybe the merger will go through?
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As tony said, everything works but you only get edge speeds. I know because I am on T-Mobile. Its fine for web browsing and such, but don't expect any HQ YouTube.
Wish i had 3g at least, could care less about 4g, because i like the ATT version the best of the sgs2's. I knew this would happen before i bought it though. Maybe the merger will go through?
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i know..i love the att version so much...stinks...i have tmo..
what happen if i get the unlocked gsm version of clove and other detailer overseas..
http://www.clove.co.uk/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-i9100-16gb
will that one be able to get 3g action tmobile...
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i know..i love the att version so much...stinks...i have tmo..
what happen if i get the unlocked gsm version of clove and other detailer overseas..
http://www.clove.co.uk/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-i9100-16gb
will that one be able to get 3g action tmobile...
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no i believe those come with at&T bands
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no i believe those come with at&T bands
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True
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Just to expand on the others comments, that phone you mentioned has: Frequencies 850/900/1900/2100 (Quad band), whereas T-Mobile needs both 1700 and 2100. You need both because they use one for uploading and another for downloading.
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Just to expand on the others comments, that phone you mentioned has: Frequencies 850/900/1900/2100 (Quad band), whereas T-Mobile needs both 1700 and 2100. You need both because they use one for uploading and another for downloading.
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Oh man. I figured i would give a shot...i really do love that phone. Good info.
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Hej Guys!
I'm from austria & i really adore the amaze. Unfortunately it's not available here in europe, so i have to import it.
Just want to know if theres an amaze without that crappy tmobile hardware branding?
Dunno myself so please help
Rgds from vienna
The Canadian (TELUS) Amaze has absolutely no branding at all. The only TELUS "bloatware" is Skype and Rdio being preinstalled.
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The Canadian (TELUS) Amaze has absolutely no branding at all. The only TELUS "bloatware" is Skype and Rdio being preinstalled.
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WOW!!! Nice, might not have rooted.
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The Canadian (TELUS) Amaze has absolutely no branding at all. The only TELUS "bloatware" is Skype and Rdio being preinstalled.
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Thanks! Exactly what i was looking for.
D'you know where I can buy it? Shouldnt have a netlock at all.
Thanks!!
mijaskydive said:
Hej Guys!
I'm from austria & i really adore the amaze. Unfortunately it's not available here in europe, so i have to import it.
Just want to know if theres an amaze without that crappy tmobile hardware branding?
Dunno myself so please help
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Also Canadian Amaze 4G from Wind Mobile is unbranded too.
http://shop.windmobile.ca/ProductCa...tDetails.aspx?id=HTC+Amaze(WINDCA)&color=blue
mijaskydive said:
Hej Guys!
I'm from austria & i really adore the amaze. Unfortunately it's not available here in europe, so i have to import it.
Just want to know if theres an amaze without that crappy tmobile hardware branding?
Dunno myself so please help
Rgds from vienna
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There are differences in the 3G bandwidth between the Telus's Amaze and Wind's Amaze:
Telus 3G = 850/AWS/1900/2100 (as shown on the box of my Telus Amaze)
Wind 3G = 1700 / 2100 (per Wind website)
If you plan to use the data service, better to verify your carrier's 3G service to ensure you select the right model. This thing is nice but not cheap so make sure to make full use of it.
Tmobile one does both and it's unlockable
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Tmobile one does both and it's unlockable
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But you have to scrape off the Tmobile logo.
X did you say that tmobile version has
850/900/ 1700//2100 so my amaze is capable of 4g from att too?
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Yes it was confirmed earlier
And I mean unlockable like custom roms
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X did you say that tmobile version has
850/900/ 1700//2100 so my amaze is capable of 4g from att too?
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Using the apn settings yes--at least 3g depending on carrier ability. TBH, I have never really cared for the BS 4g set-up based on FCC ruling. Bottom-line, if it works well it works for me.
Hej
For gsm i need 900 & for 3g 2100.
Does that mean I can only use the tmob. One?
Thanks for ya advice!
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Hej
For gsm i need 900 & for 3g 2100.
Does that mean I can only use the tmob. One?
Thanks for ya advice!
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Hi!
Using (unlocked) TMobile Amaze in Germany ( O2 Network which uses GSM 1800 sometime GSM900 and UMTS 2100 ) and can confirm that this one work here!
Only maybe network related issus so far are dropped signal / dropped calls / dropped data connection on 2G/GSM in areas without good coverage but think this is a phone/phone software related problem so what i have read so far...
I think that the other Amaze´s are compatibile with the same bands because of using what i know so far exactly same hardware... also when u read tech spec on wind homepage they write:
Technical Specifications
Frequencies / Bands: 3G (UMTS/HSPA) AWS 1700/2100 2G (GSM/GPRS/EDGE) 850/1900/900/1800
So this one should also work!
I have chossen the TMob version because i was for holidays in nyc and it was cheap to buy it directly there without paying for shipment, customs and so an.... And also so far i know they are the only one how sell the white one?
Love the white and can live with the TMob logo.....
No, the other carrier's amaze's aren't the same as Tmobile's.
as stated earlier in the thread, Tmobile covers all 3g bands
Anyways the most helpful reply is this one
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There are differences in the 3G bandwidth between the Telus's Amaze and Wind's Amaze:
Telus 3G = 850/AWS/1900/2100 (as shown on the box of my Telus Amaze)
Wind 3G = 1700 / 2100 (per Wind website)
If you plan to use the data service, better to verify your carrier's 3G service to ensure you select the right model. This thing is nice but not cheap so make sure to make full use of it.
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as you can see both carrier uses 2100 for 3g, see if telus uses 900 for their 2g. If it does, you can virtually use all carriers' models
Ok guys, thanks for your advice.
Want to place my order but I still dont know which phone I need?
I need one with 900 and 2100, so only the tmob. Will work in austria??
Thanks
mijaskydive said:
Ok guys, thanks for your advice.
Want to place my order but I still dont know which phone I need?
I need one with 900 and 2100, so only the tmob. Will work in austria??
Thanks
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Did you even read what anyone wrote? But anyways just go with the Tmobile one, it's probably the best model anyways
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Did you even read what anyone wrote? But anyways just go with the Tmobile one, it's probably the best model anyways
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Why is the Tmobile any better than the Telus model? In fact if you don't plan to root, the Telus model comes with virtually no bloatware. Perhaps the only negative is the lack of the camera software. And the Telus model has no branding, which is what the OP asked in the first place.
but you get all bands with tmobile one and unlockadble so i would say as a dev i would get tmobile one
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Why is the Tmobile any better than the Telus model? In fact if you don't plan to root, the Telus model comes with virtually no bloatware. Perhaps the only negative is the lack of the camera software. And the Telus model has no branding, which is what the OP asked in the first place.
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Yeah I know what the op asked for, a few others and I pointed out that the telus and wind model works for his network, but he completely ignored it and said "so only tmobile work?" #facepalm
So I was like in whatevers mode and was like just go with the tmobile if you want to be safe, since it's virtually an international phone.
C'mon. I read the thread, but in hpacura's post he wrote all the networks except 900! But i need the 900 one here in my country? The wind amaze seems that it only has a 3G data connection?! Need 2G as well.
Have already rooted a lot of android (especially htc) phones, the amaze should be no problem..
May I know the Xperia S lt26i be used in USA T-mobile with 3G / 3.5G? I wanna take mine to Hawaii...
2g only, Xperia S doesn't have the AWS band for tmobile
Thanks, dear. I will dig my Nexus S to use 3G then. Or..... use 2G only in my lovely Xperia S....
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Thanks, dear. I will dig my Nexus S to use 3G then. Or..... use 2G only in my lovely Xperia S....
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2g sucks. Realllly think about it.
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that model will work in tmo with 3g, it works in a network similar in mexico
Should work with 3g T Mobile.
I am currently using it with AT&T 3G........and it works perfectly.
Just had to set the APN settings manually.
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that model will work in tmo with 3g, it works in a network similar in mexico
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Should work with 3g T Mobile.
I am currently using it with AT&T 3G........and it works perfectly.
Just had to set the APN settings manually.
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T-Mobile USA uses AWS (1700/2100) Bands, the LT26i being sold everywhere so far (except somewhere in Japan for Docomo network) has 850/900/1900/2100 bands so it's impossible it will work on T-Mobile 3G. I read there were some small areas where T-Mobile was working with AT&T antennas for some iPhone users (some kind of roaming after the failed acquisition?, nothing confirmed) so that could be your only chance on getting 3G T-Mobile connection with this phone.
so what u try to say is that this xps version can work on at&t 3g network?
YES IT CAN, I got mine and yes you have to enter the APN manually. Mine went straight to hspa doesnt show ATT logo either, just eh H
AWESOMENESS!!!! I love this phone to date more than any other device, i had had my share from apple to droid
Jacksonville, Fl
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that model will work in tmo with 3g, it works in a network similar in mexico
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No it won't. It doesn't support 1700. Unlike most carriers (who operate on an either OR basis if they use multiple frequencies) T-Mobile US uses both 1700 and 2100 (one for uplink and one for downlink) for their 3G service. If it doesn't support both frequencies you will not get 3G service (as you will be missing either the uplink or the downlink). This device does not support 1700.
DOESN'T WORK ON TMO 3G. YOU WOULD ONLE PICK EDGE. AND IT DOES WORK ON AT&T I KNOW SO CAUSE I'M USING IT AND PICK UP H
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Speedtest results using at&t 3g
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i really like the XPERIA S but too bad it doesnt work with tmobile 3G... i guess my only chance is have my tmobile sim card in my current X10 to do hotspot to my XPERIA S for fone calls and everything...
still using tzone $5.99 grandfather plan for 3G speed... the fastest i get is about 5Mbps download
It should work if you flash LT26a firmware (USA frequency baseband).
Im not aware of any lt26a. The only north american Xperia S is the Xperia Ion which is not available yet.
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Blagus said:
It should work if you flash LT26a firmware (USA frequency baseband).
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LT26a doesn't exist (so far)...
Alien987 said:
LT26a doesn't exist (so far)...
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Then there's nothing you can do until device is released... unless there's some LT26a firmware available somewhere already...
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It should work if you flash LT26a firmware (USA frequency baseband).
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You're also assuming that the *hardware* in that device (which doesn't even exist yet) supports 1700/2100 (which neither the LT26i or LT26a ever listed 1700 as a supported frequency).
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You're also assuming that the *hardware* in that device (which doesn't even exist yet) supports 1700/2100 (which neither the LT26i or LT26a ever listed 1700 as a supported frequency).
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Then it probably isn't intended for networks which use 1700 frequency.
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Then it probably isn't intended for networks which use 1700 frequency.
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Which is what this thread is about, a network that requires 1700 mhz for 3g service, and why it's unlikely to work by flashing a new baseband.
Hello. i was on GSMArena and came across this
I see it says HSDPA 1700 / 2100 / 1900 - for Telus but does that mean this phone has those frequencies? Cause i thought this was for the telus people?
Anyone? im a bit confused..
That is the supported frequencies and carriers around the world uses that.
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That is the supported frequencies and carriers around the world uses that.
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So the i9100 supports the 1700 band? So if I unlocked it I could get 3g service from T-Mobile here in America?
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elesbb said:
So the i9100 supports the 1700 band? So if I unlocked it I could get 3g service from T-Mobile here in America?
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Well, yes and no, but really no for what you're asking.
The i9100 does NOT support 1700mhz for UMTS, but does for voice. So as a result, it does NOT get 3g on T-mobile, since T-mobile in the US uses AWS for high speed packet data, which requires BOTH 1700 and 2100 for 3g/"4g".
I wouldn't trust that GSM Arena spec page.
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So the i9100 supports the 1700 band? So if I unlocked it I could get 3g service from T-Mobile here in America?
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T-Mobile will only give EDGE, at&t will give you 3g if you unlock it
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Well, yes and no, but really no for what you're asking.
The i9100 does NOT support 1700mhz for UMTS, but does for voice. So as a result, it does NOT get 3g on T-mobile, since T-mobile in the US uses AWS for high speed packet data, which requires BOTH 1700 and 2100 for 3g/"4g".
I wouldn't trust that GSM Arena spec page.
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Thank you so much im finally nt confused. lol. Thanks for the info!
It looks like a very well designed and capable phone (OK, a HUGE phone).
But I cannot get a definitive answer: Does it support US 3G bands?
Most sites list it as 2100, some add 900.
A few, claim UMTS 850/900/1900/2100 MHz, like http://shop.lenovomobile.com/ShowPhone.aspx?GdsID=A3200001550&intcmp=H257 (use Google Translate and look in Specifications).
shop.lenovomobile.com appears to be sort of official, so I am inclined to (and really want to) believe them. Also, the Intel modem used by the K900 is definitely listed as supporting all these bands (plus 1700).
I have ordered one from China and want to run it in a reframed area of T-Mobile in the US.
Does anyone here know for certain, or at least can shop.lenovomobile.com be trusted?
yeah,it's an official site,or you can buy from en.jd.com,which is China's largest b2c
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Tadimy..thanks. How do i buy from the lenovo site? Is there a way of translating the transaction process? Thanks.
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