[Q] Different Screen lock vs Security lock timeouts? - Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm new to Android, please be gentle. I have searched numerous sources for an answer to this. From what I can determine this is a change in Android that only provides for one screen timeout. IE, every time the screen turns off and I reactivate, I have to enter the security code.
Previously was using an N900, where I could turn off the screen on a 1-2 minute timer, but not have the security lock kick in for 1 hour of idle time.
Is there any way to implement the same behaviour with the SGS2?

I second this question. I find this extremely annoying and would like to know an answer to this too!

A bit of relief I just found is to use widgetoid and the lock screen disable function. It temporarily turns off the the security lock. Haven't figured out the details yet but it seems to re-enable it after a timeout as well.
Not perfect but a definite improvement!
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chargen2 said:
A bit of relief I just found is to use widgetoid and the lock screen disable function. It temporarily turns off the the security lock. Haven't figured out the details yet but it seems to re-enable it after a timeout as well.
Not perfect but a definite improvement!
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Widgetoid does not work if you have a security policy (device administrators) in effect. :'(
Anyone know any app that allows you to set the security timeout differently than the screen timeout?

i came from n900 too, also miss the separate screen/lock timings.

baron von bubba said:
i came from n900 too, also miss the separate screen/lock timings.
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me too!!!!!!!!!

believe it or not JUICEDEFENDER ultimate has this feature.
it goes a small step further in that you can have another (longer) time set for lock screen when the phone detects certain WIFIs. eg your home network.
the free and cheaper versions may also have this function, im not sure.

baron von bubba said:
believe it or not JUICEDEFENDER ultimate has this feature.
it goes a small step further in that you can have another (longer) time set for lock screen when the phone detects certain WIFIs. eg your home network.
the free and cheaper versions may also have this function, im not sure.
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Did this work for anybody..? with device aministrators /corporate email locks..

Would also like to know!
And a follow up question, SG2 should have some form of hardware encryption - how does this work?
/Voz

The Juice defender doesnt work if there is a remote device administrator enabled.
Please help us out here.. guys..

StayAwake app in market can help u .

Did this work even for Exchange admin?

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Hero face down --> Screen off

Hi everybody,
I come from Windows Mobile, and I'm very happy about Android (and Hero...). With my old WM smartphone I could turn the display off just facing down the device, it was a small application but very userful in my opinion. Do you know any application to do this in Android? Otherwise, it's an idea for development...
Thanks (sorry for my english..)
If you turn it over when it is ringing it will turn it onto silent. I think there are several apps in the market that do the things you mention.
example?
Yes, I was pretty sure to find something in the market. But actually I had no chance. I know how to silent the telephone, but it's not what I'm looking for...
Can someone else tell me a program in the maket to turn the display off ?
Not sure what the point is? The screen switches itself off when it's not being used, so I can't really see the why someone would want to write an app that does as you describe.
Regards,
Dave
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Ok, as example: I'm using Copilot 8. With the automatic screen off, after 2 min. (example) the screen turns off during the navigation. Not good. I have found a program to select the applications as exceptions to keep the display on, but I don't want to add every time some exception.
Or maybe I simply want to decide when to turn off the display without waiting the timer and without using the button (it's a physical button, I had bad experience with the lifetime of some hw button....)
As last answer I don't think your answer is useful. If you don't use this function, you can ask why to use/develop it to the thousands of users of WM using such app....
vivus said:
As last answer I don't think your answer is useful. If you don't use this function, you can ask why to use/develop it to the thousands of users of WM using such app....
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Ahem - I didn't attempt to provide an answer, I asked a question and qualified it with a statement!
Regards,
Dave
vivus said:
Ok, as example: I'm using Copilot 8. With the automatic screen off, after 2 min. (example) the screen turns off during the navigation. Not good. I have found a program to select the applications as exceptions to keep the display on, but I don't want to add every time some exception.
Or maybe I simply want to decide when to turn off the display without waiting the timer and without using the button (it's a physical button, I had bad experience with the lifetime of some hw button....)
As last answer I don't think your answer is useful. If you don't use this function, you can ask why to use/develop it to the thousands of users of WM using such app....
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Its easy... u can just click on the red button on your hero and the screen will turnoff, and when u want to turn it on u can click on MENU twice and u will be back at your application that u were using...
vivus said:
Ok, as example: I'm using Copilot 8. With the automatic screen off, after 2 min. (example) the screen turns off during the navigation. Not good. I have found a program to select the applications as exceptions to keep the display on, but I don't want to add every time some exception.
Or maybe I simply want to decide when to turn off the display without waiting the timer and without using the button (it's a physical button, I had bad experience with the lifetime of some hw button....)
As last answer I don't think your answer is useful. If you don't use this function, you can ask why to use/develop it to the thousands of users of WM using such app....
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I use Copilot but my screen doesnt go off while navigating, and my auto screen off is set to 1min. I think there may be a setting in copiolt to keep the phone awake while in use.
vivus said:
Hi everybody,
I come from Windows Mobile, and I'm very happy about Android (and Hero...). With my old WM smartphone I could turn the display off just facing down the device, it was a small application but very useful in my opinion. Do you know any application to do this in Android? Otherwise, it's an idea for development...
Thanks (sorry for my english..)
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You are correct man, I have been lookin for that kind of apk couldn't find one.
How the apk would work:
-Simply by positioning the device with the face down, you get an instant sleep mode.
-As if you pressed hardware power/sleep.
-You can simulate a "face down" in mid air and the device will sleep. Handy to keep the power/sleep button clean.
djmace said:
I use Copilot but my screen doesnt go off while navigating, and my auto screen off is set to 1min. I think there may be a setting in copiolt to keep the phone awake while in use.
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There is such a setting in Copilot. As you'd expect, you can find it in "Settings"!
Regards,
Dave

Is there any way to use face unlock with the stock lockscreen?

I am using ICS alpha 1, but I had this issue with the normal ICS leak as well. If I choose face unlock for security, and set the timeout to anything other than immediate, I have no lock screen at all until that timeout is reached. No swype or anything... anyone know why that is?
I think that's the entire purpose of the time out. It could get annoying holding the phone at the right angle in a decently lit area over and over if you're using your phone a lot but still allowing the screen to turn off. And that's at your best bet, at worst its too dark or bright and you have to really work to unlock it repeatedly.
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Surrylic said:
I think that's the entire purpose of the time out. It could get annoying holding the phone at the right angle in a decently lit area over and over if you're using your phone a lot but still allowing the screen to turn off. And that's at your best bet, at worst its too dark or bright and you have to really work to unlock it repeatedly.
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Right, but now if the phone wakes before the lock screen timeout, it wakes to the home screen... which can be bad for pocket dials, etc...
loudog3114 said:
Right, but now if the phone wakes before the lock screen timeout, it wakes to the home screen... which can be bad for pocket dials, etc...
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Not locking immediately is the entire point of setting that timeout. It doesn't lock. If you want it to lock when the screen goes off, you have to set it to immediately.
I think understand what you're asking, though. If use facelock and set it to lock after 5 minutes, anytime you unlock it up to 4 minutes and 59 seconds, you want to have to swipe or use some other method to unlock. Pretty sure that's not an option, unless there's an alternative app out there that does it or a dev mods it to do that.
lactardjosh said:
Not locking immediately is the entire point of setting that timeout. It doesn't lock. If you want it to lock when the screen goes off, you have to set it to immediately.
I think understand what you're asking, though. If use facelock and set it to lock after 5 minutes, anytime you unlock it up to 4 minutes and 59 seconds, you want to have to swipe or use some other method to unlock. Pretty sure that's not an option, unless there's an alternative app out there that does it or a dev mods it to do that.
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On other devices I have with ICS, its the default lockscreen until the faceunlock timeout is reached. The other device I have is HTC, so maybe sense has something to do with it. I was able to get the behavior I want just by using widgetlocker, but I dont like that solution... I like to stay as vanilla as possible.
loudog3114 said:
On other devices I have with ICS, its the default lockscreen until the faceunlock timeout is reached. The other device I have is HTC, so maybe sense has something to do with it. I was able to get the behavior I want just by using widgetlocker, but I dont like that solution... I like to stay as vanilla as possible.
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If your looking for an app that allows that vizidon face unlock has what i think your looking for
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[Q] Screen is always Dim

When I unlock the phone it always starts up very dim and sometimes it turns bright sometimes it doesn't. I have auto-brightness off and I have my brightness set to 100%. I have to move the slider off of 100% and back to 100% to get it that bright. It is very weird. Anybody know how to fix this?
I have the same problem.
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Settings > Display > Auto adjust screen power (untick). Try now.
Been unchecked since day 1. Still does it. Possible that I have a defective unit?
HaruSoul said:
Been unchecked since day 1. Still does it. Possible that I have a defective unit?
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Is it dim on the home screen or certain apps? cuz internet browser, video etc got their own brightness settings built in that you have to change from the settings within the app.
manbatistuta said:
Is it dim on the home screen or certain apps? cuz internet browser, video etc got their own brightness settings built in that you have to change from the settings within the app.
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It is dim from the lock screen. Everything once I unlock it is dim. If I lock and unlock the phone like 3 times fast it is fine, but it's a pain in the ass. I'll see if I can take a video of it later when I get home.
I know you said "everything" but try to go to internet browser and disable "auto-brightness" under brightness setting.
Also upgrade your firmware to the latest one to see if that help. My Smart detect is not working and after upgraded it work every single time plus the cell stand by is much improved
I just got my phone back from service, they updated to LF5 - so far it has solved my proplems with dim
I have had 2 handsets that do this now. Its really annoying especially when you are outside.
Basically what is happening is that when your screen dims down before it goes off thats what is happening when you unlock the phone.
I can be using it for 5-10 secs before the full brightness kicks in.
It has nothing to do with power saver or internet. Just running through the home pages and apps list it is doing it.
I am on the latest firmware too.
Does anyone know whats causing it? Is it just a faulty handset (or 2)?
Mine the same. I don't think there bad devices I think its just software related tbh
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Well im glad some others of you have experianced this also.
I just hope its something that will be fixed in an update.
It really p****s me off when it does it and im outdoors.

iOS like mixed rules screen lock?

Evening all
One of the things I really liked on my iPhone was that you could set it to just have a swipe lock on the screen unless it was left for, say, 5 minutes, at which point you had to enter a pin code. Its a real pain having to keep pattern/pin/face unlock the phone every time I put it down and pick it up. It would be much better of rme to have it lock automatically on a simple swipe after 60 seconds, then security lock after, say, 5 mins.
Is there any software which can do this?
cheers,
Robsa
Look for Delayed Lock in the play store, it's a rather handy little app (which can, amongst other things, keep your phone unlocked when connected to specific wifi networks) . The support thread for it is on XDA.
Edit: see thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=955092
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You can make it so there's no lock screen at all for five minutes, will that do?
The very handy (but paid) app JuiceDefender (beta) which helps a lot with battery drain of 3G data networks also has this feature amongst other things.
Umm in the security settings there is a setting for how long before it enables the lock after screen off.. People don't look for anything anymore. It's always "I need this now and I don't care if you do it for free, NOW"
It's already there as said above. Now say five hail Androids on the way out the door for not RTFM.
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Is there an app to keep the screen on when tilted? (Like Screebl on Android)

Hi Guys,
Whenever I get a new Android phone, the first app I always load up is Screebl. (Its an app that uses the sensors to keep the screen on when the phone is tilted.)
I've had a look around the windows store but can seem to find anything that functions the same. :crying:
Do you know of an app that can do the same? (or am I being way too optimistic here?)
Thanks in Advance. :highfive:
It's not possible on platform however you can set screen timeout in settings->lock screen to "Never".
sensboston said:
It's not possible on platform however you can set screen timeout in settings->lock screen to "Never".
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That's what I suspected Boston. :highfive:
Android has its faults, but for me, Windows phone and iOS are not in the same league as only Android allows you to use your device how you want.
Yes, Android has more flexibility (especially rooted) but as for mentioned feature it's irrelevant, you can achieve your goal with the standard settings so it's not a point (or I don't understand completely what do you want).
Could you tell me: why do you want this (if it's not a "top secret")?
Screebl is like having a toggle between lock my screen after 5 seconds activity and never lock my screen. When the phone is flat the screen locks quickly. When titled, the screen never locks.
I find its really useful when I'm using my phone and are then disturbed. I simply rest the phone at an angle, knowing I won't have to mess around with security when I return. This sort of functionality is also very good if you know your hands may get messy.
Ahh, OK, I got your point. I had kinda different issue - I'm developer and need to have always unlocked phone during development and regularly locked during normal usage. I solved this issue by using specific registry setting (not available officially) - WP has two different timeouts for working on battery and on DC (but when phone is connected to USB for debugging purposes, it always on charge).

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