[Q] Thinking about jumping ship to the Thunderbolt - Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

It's my birthday this Thursday and I am considering using any money I get to go towards getting a Thunderbolt from either eBay or Craigslist. I love my Fascinate and all, and the devs working on this phone have been fantastic and almost everything they have released has been gold, but Samsung's lack of support for this device and HTC's promise of Gingerbread for the T-Bolt by the end of June (fingers crossed) are heavily influencing my decision. Also, we are going on vacation in Orlando in a little over a month and I want to test the 4G there (According to the VZW site, there is 4G in the Detroit Metro area, but I am not close enough to receive it. They are, however, planning on rolling it out in more cities across Michigan over the course of 2011. We'll see how well that pans out). Should I switch?
P.S. Battery life is a concern too, which has been pretty good on my Fascinate, but not the best since I'm a pretty heavy user throughout the day. But I'm willing to set my phone down more often if it means having a more badass phone

manic020 said:
It's my birthday this Thursday and I am considering using any money I get to go towards getting a Thunderbolt from either eBay or Craigslist. I love my Fascinate and all, and the devs working on this phone have been fantastic and almost everything they have released has been gold, but Samsung's lack of support for this device and HTC's promise of Gingerbread for the T-Bolt by the end of June (fingers crossed) are heavily influencing my decision. Also, we are going on vacation in Orlando in a little over a month and I want to test the 4G there (According to the VZW site, there is 4G in the Detroit Metro area, but I am not close enough to receive it. They are, however, planning on rolling it out in more cities across Michigan over the course of 2011. We'll see how well that pans out). Should I switch?
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There isn't 4g in Detroit Metro, It's in part of Macomb and Oakland counties. Also in and around Ann Arbor. Detroit is supposed to get it by the end of the year.

hecantbreathe said:
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There isn't 4g in Detroit Metro, It's in part of Macomb and Oakland counties. Also in and around Ann Arbor. Detroit is supposed to get it by the end of the year.
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Oops. Sorry.
Here's what the site is showing me in terms of coverage (I'm where the pin is, right on the river bordering Canada. Red = 3G, dark red = 4G):
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Had a friend that bought a thunderbolt. The battery life is horrible bc of the 4g. I watched his battery go from full to dead in 4 hrs. I was upset with the samsung and vz support until I finally got the nerve to use the dev's software and now there is not a phone on the market now that I would switch to. Maybe when one of the dual cores comes out.
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It would be a very bad idea at this point imo. Save your money and wait for the sgs 2.

thefunkbot said:
It would be a very bad idea at this point imo. Save your money and wait for the sgs 2.
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+1. TBolt is toy phone compare to sga ii
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Yeah, I was thinking about waiting for the dual-core phones to come out, but I figured I would just do the same thing I'm doing now and just sell the T-Bolt and get one of those when the time comes, seeing as how almost all of my somewhat small income is disposable (I'll be a college freshman this August and my mom is paying my tuition).
I've been reading around the Thunderbolt forums here on XDA and while I know the battery life is pretty terrible, there are undervolted/overclocked kernels available that are supposed to help solve this problem. Plus, I already have a Micro-USB car charger so it shouldn't be that much of an issue.
Would the Samsung Charge be a good option too? The Incredible 2 looks pretty cool too, but it's not a 4G phone as far as I know.

Nobody has mentioned the unlimited 4G/LTE you'd get from picking up the Thunderbolt now. That alone is worth it imo.
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Nobody has mentioned the unlimited 4G/LTE you'd get from picking up the Thunderbolt now. That alone is worth it imo.
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Just about the only reason I would switch. Having that unlimited data on 4g would take the cake over hardware at the moment.
But If you aren't concerned wait for VZW iteration of the Galaxy S II. It will be well worth the wait.

Holy crap, I forgot about unlimited 4G. I'm definitely going to now lol. I think the Thunderbolt will be fast enough to not warrant a new phone for a while
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How about the 17th? Leaked memo v18...

I saw this at PhoneDog. PLUS, i just got an email from my BestBuy per-order, the very first email from BestBuy. It doesn't say when, but its a change from silence...
http://www.phonedog.com/2011/03/11/rumor-htc-thunderbolt-trophy-hitting-verizon-later-this-month/
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edit: To me, the text on the bottom looks a little fake. It's a different font and it looks slightly slanted.. might be me though.
I got that email myself today, funny thing is, I cancelled my preorder last week since i was about to hit 30 days to return the giftcard and once the buyback program was off the table I was out of there
I just saw this on androidandme and came here to post it....
I sure hope this is correct. The font difference doesn't bother me...I've worked for companies that have different fonts in the same sentence. Some people don't care, especially on internal docs.
What I wish it didn't say was "release dates subject to change".
I'm still going to keep hoping this phone comes out next week. I've been tempted to dump VZ but honestly, I'm worried the other companies service is going to be sub par.....and the only other phone that interests me is from Samsung....which also makes me not interested. LOL
rckymtnrfc said:
I'm still going to keep hoping this phone comes out next week. I've been tempted to dump VZ but honestly, I'm worried the other companies service is going to be sub par.....and the only other phone that interests me is from Samsung....which also makes me not interested. LOL
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I ported my number to AT&T to get the Inspire 4G. AT&T is sub par, at least in my area. I have until 3/22 to port back to Verizon so I'm hoping too its 3/17.
So what made you return the Atrix?
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So what made you return the Atrix?
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Resolution bothered me a lot; everything was super small. Plus, the screen was long and skinny and I wanted something more proportional like the TB or Inspire.
I got an email Best Buy about my preorder today as well. This is the first email from Best Buy since I preordered one month ago, it must be a good sign.
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If you want to believe Engadget the TB is dropping on the 17th.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/14/htc-thunderbolt-tipped-to-launch-march-17th-again/
We should find out in the next day or so.
17th looks to be a good possibility. However maybe not. Wait and see. I find it funny to watch all those getting aggravated with the speculation. Get a life, all in fun.
From my EVO with Cyanogen
Looks like the 17th it is. Our VZW Business Rep confirmed I'll be able to order with him over the phone. He of course, did say, "unless something crazy happens and they dont let us sell it"
So excited!!!!!!!!!
17th it appears to be.
From my EVO with Cyanogen
Just saw a commercial for the thunderbolt. First ive seen. Signs seem to be pointing at a release fairly soon.
I would put money on the official announcement coming from VZ tomorrow if the 17th is indeed going to be the day. Not a lot of money....gotta buy accessories.
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The phone is launching on the 17th, there is no doubt about it. Its official, and an annoucement should be made tomorrow morning.
P.S. Some stores are opening at 7 AM. I would call your local store to double check. If you're in the LA area, pm me and I'll give you the info to the stores that I know of that are opening early Thursday.
God I hope that the 17th actually sticks! I love my Evo but Sprint service sucks at my job and we have a Verizon cell of some kind there with antennas all throughout the building so I'm dying to be able to make the switch now that they'll have an awesome 100% hackable phone!
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Looks like wirefly has pre-order up and says they will ship on the 17th and verizon changed its homepage flash to thunderbolt. Looking good for 17th.
Trust me, its launching on the 17th....
Barring something totally catastrophic happening, its going to launch, ready or not....
I'm getting one. I'm stoked.
VZW has officially announced the Thunderbolt release on the 17th.
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Any announcement on the 4G pricing plans?
magnafides said:
Any announcement on the 4G pricing plans?
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No change in price
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att to roll out 4g lte sept 18

So I was reading the zdnet article, and they specifically mentioned the atrix, and implied it will benefit from the rollout... I was under the impression the atrix isn't lte capable?
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Well the ZDNet article is a blog entry, and likely the writer of the article is just a bit under-educated on the matter. The atrix simply doesn't have radios capable of LTE. It is what it is.
I would probably write to the author (Rachel King) of that "blog" and let her know that she is wrong about the Atrix. More than likely, she has been lied to by AT&T like many other people I have heard about
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/at-t-...-weekend-competitors-shouldnt-worry-yet/58160
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I have emailed her myself to let her know and hopefully she'll correct it.
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So I was reading the zdnet article, and they specifically mentioned the atrix, and implied it will benefit from the rollout... I was under the impression the atrix isn't lte capable?
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But it's a 4G phone, right!?!?
Cant wait for the lawsuits to come around. For false advertising 4g and the misrepresentations to sell phones. And the corporate responses to sweep the lies under the rug. Wtg corporate america.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
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But it's a 4G phone, right!?!?
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No, its not.
It says so right in the name...IT'S GOTTA BE!!!!!
I'm so confused now.
(note...sarcasm)
It's a 3 1/2 G phone, for now, until they do the "backhaul" which likely won't ever come for another 20 years.
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Well the ZDNet article is a blog entry, and likely the writer of the article is just a bit under-educated on the matter. The atrix simply doesn't have radios capable of LTE. It is what it is.
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well, is it possible for us to flash a radio that is capable of LTE? or is our phone not hardware compatible? this is something i'm just not really that familiar with =\
Need an lte radio. Its hardware.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
Technically if you wanted to dig out the guts of an lte device and pull out the 3.5 radio from the Atrix you could get LTE but that would take some hardware modding which doesn't sound pleasant and would most likely turn your phone into an over sized paper weight.
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It's a 3 1/2 G phone, for now, until they do the "backhaul" which likely won't ever come for another 20 years.
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3G, 3.5G or 4G has nothing to do with speed. Some 3G is faster than some 4G tech. HSPA+ that's on our phone is more like 3.9G Though I think the ITU finally caved and say that HSPA+ is 4G.
3G... 4G... 20,000 leagues under the sea. It doesn't matter. The blog was talking about LTE and the Atrix is only HSPA+, CAT10 (14Mbps) as well, not even CAT14 (21Mbps)
Phone speeds are kind of like getting to be exotic cars. They have all these top speeds but there srent any racetracks/straightaways to "test" them out. Are we supposed like rednecks and sit around drinking beer and chewing tobacco and bragging well my phone can go this fast or whatever, and then tomorrow you drive your kids to baseball practice?
I voided my warranty and your mum.
pukemon said:
Phone speeds are kind of like getting to be exotic cars. They have all these top speeds but there srent any racetracks/straightaways to "test" them out. Are we supposed like rednecks and sit around drinking beer and chewing tobacco and bragging well my phone can go this fast or whatever, and then tomorrow you drive your kids to baseball practice?
I voided my warranty and your mum.
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http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/at-t-...-weekend-competitors-shouldnt-worry-yet/58160
It seems she has removed the part about the Atrix.
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Im from texas yall. King of the hill is king of the hill. But yeah its funny the theoretical speeds our modems and carriers tout but not many of us see more than 5 mb/s consistently so its.... pointless.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
So exactly what is the point of this lte rollout now?
So it doesn't even seem att has any lte devices yet.... Is this rollout really this.assinine?
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No phones yet. But they do have devices.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
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No phones yet. But they do have devices.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
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yep.
i have my elevate sitting here waiting for some LTE....not like my area is going to get LTE any time soon, but .....

Wish it was like this all day....

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Also on a side note Merry christmas and happy holidays to all devs and people of xda!
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What is it usually?
Same happened to me yesterday... 1.6m got all excited thinking it improved.. until I got home... It usually ranges from 20-60k to 200k... If it good it can go to 300-400k
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For me the BEST during the day maybe 300 or 250 dl and about the same for upload. Makes me really sad the only limitation this phone really has is the network.
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For me the BEST during the day maybe 300 or 250 dl and about the same for upload. Makes me really sad the only limitation this phone really has is the network.
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No kidding, man. I can't say I have ever seen my phone above 400K on 3G before.... Kinda blows, really. Sprint is all concerned with taking away perks, the least they could do with that extra money is improve their terrible network. I remember in '09, sprint was way better than this.
Bamba1260 said:
No kidding, man. I can't say I have ever seen my phone above 400K on 3G before.... Kinda blows, really. Sprint is all concerned with taking away perks, the least they could do with that extra money is improve their terrible network. I remember in '09, sprint was way better than this.
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Seriously...Can't even use the so called unlimited data when speeds are obnoxiously slow. It's like promising an all you can eat buffet but with minimal food. To give Sprint credit though, the 3G speeds in Philadelphia were awesome. I also got a taste of what WiMax had to offer and was impressed with 11mbps.
If they promised faster speeds with the condition of reducing unlimited to say 5GB a month, I'd be ecstatic. Anything to even match the speeds Verizon or any of the GSM carriers get.
Bamba1260 said:
No kidding, man. I can't say I have ever seen my phone above 400K on 3G before.... Kinda blows, really. Sprint is all concerned with taking away perks, the least they could do with that extra money is improve their terrible network. I remember in '09, sprint was way better than this.
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Unfortunately, Sprint is over $5 billion in debt. The merger with Nextel and lack of iPhone were a disaster. A big outside investor like Dish Network, Google, etc. should buy out Sprint/Clearwire and build out their networks.

			
				
In india the max speed reached on my 3g was 5017kbps and generally i get around 3170kbps
Jayavarman said:
Unfortunately, Sprint is over $5 billion in debt. The merger with Nextel and lack of iPhone were a disaster. A big outside investor like Dish Network, Google, etc. should buy out Sprint/Clearwire and build out their networks.
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Maybe but something needs to happen fairly soon or I may just end up switching to big red even at their very high costs.
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im actually seeing my speeds consistently around 800-1400kbps DL for over a month now, I used to use verizon PRL's because i would never see much better than 600kbps, But now im on 21083 that came with my 3d... it seems like they really are doing something with 3G, at least around here..
i have a feeling its gonna get better . only way i leave sprint is if they dead unlimited data
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Sorry to see such crappy speeds
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Same here....first time ever seeing speeds like this....
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Charles Barkley has our phone.

Charles Barkley shows off our phone at half time tonight during the playoffs.
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nice- hopefully someone will find a video.. i wanna see..
horrible and awkward. they kept calling it the EVO LITE
I was at a restaurant when this happened. One of the people I was there with was inspecting my phone when it happened, and thought it was funny that Sir Barkley had one, too.
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horrible and awkward. they kept calling it the EVO LITE
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Kenny Smith was calling it a EVO lite because he said the network is too slow. He called Hesse out about it on the air last week. Sprint sponsors the show.....
Wow if that's true, then that's got to be embarrassing for Sprint. Their 3G network is slow compared to everyone else. Maybe it will be a wake up call for Sprint? *crossing fingers*
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LOL...Barkley commented last week about how slow Sprint's network is. Dan H. gave him a EvoLTE which he had to show on the set (my guess as punishment for making that remark on the show that Sprint sponsors). Aside from calling it a Evo Lite for the entire one minute segment, Kenny Smith went on to say "well their network is slow so maybe Dan will give me one too". I can see the face palms now. Would love to be a fly on the wall and hear those calls to the show's producers.
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Wow if that's true, then that's got to be embarrassing for Sprint. Their 3G network is slow compared to everyone else. Maybe it will be a wake up call for Sprint? *crossing fingers*
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Nope I don't think Sprint will take a hint.... Lol
Lay off Sprint, this is all part of network vision.
I think the most shocking thing here is that Charles Barkley would actually be using Sprint at this time. Has he lost all his money?
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I think the most shocking thing here is that Charles Barkley would actually be using Sprint at this time. Has he lost all his money?
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I must guess that he has devices on multiple carriers and possibly a Sprint line that is about 16 years old. The "PCS" network was formed about the same time he won his second Olympic gold medal. Maybe he is like many of us- a long time Sprint PCS user that is giving the company a swift kick in the butt publicly like many of us do here (semi)privately. I think it is fairly hilarious in any case.
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I must guess that he has devices on multiple carriers and possibly a Sprint line that is about 16 years old. The "PCS" network was formed about the same time he won his second Olympic gold medal. Maybe he is like many of us- a long time Sprint PCS user that is giving the company a swift kick in the butt publicly like many of us do here (semi)privately. I think it is fairly hilarious in any case.
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Well if Charles Barkley has been with them for 16 years, he must be pretty pissed they removed the Premier program! I sure was and then I gave Sprint and kick in the butt and went to Verizon.
Maybe Charles gets free phones from them so he decided to stick around. That would have been the only reason I would have stuck around.
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Well if Charles Barkley has been with them for 16 years, he must be pretty pissed they removed the Premier program! I sure was and then I gave Sprint and kick in the butt and went to Verizon.
Maybe Charles gets free phones from them so he decided to stick around. That would have been the only reason I would have stuck around.
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I hear you. I had to get a VZW Xoom with data and just run wifi tether to my phone when I need the nations "fastest, most reliable network."
For me it costs less to have 4 lines on sprint and a data line on verizon than just the 4 lines on verizon. I essentially get a free 5gig data line out of the setup. Works well for me.
Nothing like going ot in a Charles Barkley thread. lol
Reason 87654 why Sir Charles is the greatest Athlete to ever walk the face of the Earth!
Charles Barkley uses Sprint because AT&T wanted him to pay a $500 deposit to start an account.
Sir Charles was having exactly none of that.
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Seems like a good time to not renew with big red
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There are alot of apps that block content, or just plain dont work on rooted devices. Really the only diff is vzw's tells you why and how to fix. It's funny listening to all the "leave vzw" remarks; awesome coverage, speed, and great CS, yeah who wants to keep all that. I've found that as long as i pay my bill ontime, i have had zero issues with them, including 3 phone replacements, two of which were returned modified, not even a whisper from them about it.
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There are alot of apps that block content, or just plain dont work on rooted devices. Really the only diff is vzw's tells you why and how to fix. It's funny listening to all the "leave vzw" remarks; awesome coverage, speed, and great CS, yeah who wants to keep all that. I've found that as long as i pay my bill ontime, i have had zero issues with them, including 3 phone replacements, two of which were returned modified, not even a whisper from them about it.
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lol yea, and you pay for all that hype too.
i get the same great coverage, some times better, on FI, and my bill is $50 less a month, including a new phone on payment plan.
im not denying vzw has good service or data, had them for a verrrry long time. just no point in throwing money away any more, when there not the only good game in town.
That may be true where you live, or cities, but vzw covers rural as good or better then others, and i dont begrudge the cost for coverage. Not sure how well if at all FI would work in seOK.
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That may be true where you live, or cities, but vzw covers rural as good or better then others, and i dont begrudge the cost for coverage. Not sure how well if at all FI would work in seOK.
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i live about 30min outside of the city and it works fine, work in i a big city, where it works better than vzw. the building penetration isnt even comparable, its so much better.
there are maps that will show you coverage, and it would actually cost you less than $10 to try it with a device for a week to see how it works.
im not trying to convince you to switch, just throwing out some facts. i dont agree with the rationale of ill keep paying more because i dont want to see if there is anything as good for less.
...but its your money, and just my opinion.
But, my Verizon G3, vs985, is not Project Fi compatible, is it ? So I cannot switch to Fi, with my Verizon phone, which is the topical phone of this sub-board, right ?
I can, though, with my Nexus 6.
Just get it clear in your head that until Verizon starts thinking their draconian lock-down policies are actually hurting their bottom line, they will just keep tightening the screws on their customers.
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But, my Verizon G3, vs985, is not Project Fi compatible, is it ? So I cannot switch to Fi, with my Verizon phone, which is the topical phone of this sub-board, right ?
I can, though, with my Nexus 6.
Just get it clear in your head that until Verizon starts thinking their draconian lock-down policies are actually hurting their bottom line, they will just keep tightening the screws on their customers.
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i save the equivalent of 3 new phones every 2 years since switching, so yea, its real inconvenient i cant use any of the vzw phones i have.
I saw that too with my G3. What I did was to install it on my Nexus 9 tablet and tether my phone to it. Its nice to kill time on the train ride home.
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