So I hear you all have the Flyer in the UK now.
I think most everyone agrees that making the pen work only with specific apps was an unfortunate design decision. My thinking is it would be ideal for typing with in the HTC Tracing keyboard. Imagine something Swype-like, but with a stylus, and I think you'd have some incredibly fast note-taking.
Any thoughts on hacking the Sense keyboard to work with the pen? Once my Flyer arrives, that'll be what I'll start on, at least to see if it's possible.
Whilst this is not something I would personally use, I am definitely using the Trace keyboard, works well, at least in portrait. In landscape, it is just too much finger travel!
I can see this being a popular hack anyway, and being able to interact with the UI using the pen would be useful in general.
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Hello.
Flyer's pen is great, but it is working only in two applications - Notes and Scribe.
I want to use it in Autodesk Sketachpad and Mapple paint.
Is there any way to make it work as usual stylus in other applications?
sadly there's no way at the moment.
htc has released the sdk for it, we can only hope that developers are willing to cater for this.
It actually can be used to select UI elements, but it seems HTC wants to restrict it to writing and drawing. In the "kid mode" app, when painting tab is selected, you can use the pen to select other tabs and tool icons. However, after clicking on a tab, pen no longer works on UI elements.
By the way, pen also works in PDF viewer, Polaris Office, Reader, Picture gallery and kid mode app. I hope more developers will discover its potential.
gibson7 said:
sadly there's no way at the moment.
htc has released the sdk for it, we can only hope that developers are willing to cater for this.
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I believe they've merely announced that they plan to.
I am not sure if I have misunderstood what the thread is about... But the pen can be used as a stylus if you turn it around and use the blunt end - it will scroll the screen and register taps/clicks etc.
Be careful though as the finish on the pen is not smooth and if used to scroll and drag it can scratch the screen and/or the screen protector.
If I have got the meaning behind the OP's thread wrong apologies, it is late (here) and I'll get me coat
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Yes, the other end of the pen can be a stylus, Get a screen protector, and wrap the other side of the pen with a film protector likeinvisishield or bodyguardz.
wow ! thanks for enlighten me !!!
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sadly there's no way at the moment.
htc has released the sdk for it, we can only hope that developers are willing to cater for this.
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It has not been released.
It has only been anounced. There is no telling when it will actually be released. The longer they take though the more it will hurt HTC.
I've heard of someone getting the conductive rubber tip from a capacitive stylus and fitting it over the end of the pen. That would work to protect the screen.
This may sound stupid, but to me its a really simple request/question:
Is there ANY way to calibrate how the pen functions for this tablet?
I can see the obvious possibilities for it, but it just seems so tacked on last minute. I mean it really only can be used with 3 total apps (Notes, PDF, and something else?), and every time I go to write its makes me want to scream and chuck the tablet at the wall.
Here's my big 3 pains and anyone who can help me out I'd be thankful to
- Can the pen be used as a regular stylus at its tip? (not the back of it)
- Can you lessen the detection range of the tip to the screen? Im not even touching and its already marking the screen
and the biggest....
- Can the keyboard be disabled WHILE using the pen? So many times I go to write and the keyboard keeps popping up in Evernote and cancels whatever I'm doing...
Sorry if this turned into a rant, its just frustration because I can see this becoming a less expensive option for digital artists and the like if only HTC wouldn't drag their feet on it.
Thanks~
There are no ways to calibrate the pen. You must understand that:
1. The separation between capasitive layer with touch function and resistive layer with pen function is the best way to make perfect palm rejection while scribbling! There are many kind of tablet which still cannot fully implement palm rejection and it is really really big problem.
2. You can scribe/write on polaris document which are free from keyboard trouble!
3. Touch and pen activity should be combine easily.
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I brought my Evo View to class and tried to take notes; seems pretty poor-- My handwriting comes out as chicken scratch, it's tough to keep the pen in place without making accidental touches, etc. Writing was very slow compared to taking notes with a pen and paper.
That said I love my tablet-- it's still easily my favorite on the market; but the first actual time I had to use the pen, I was pretty disappointed.
I'm doing fine with my flyer and pen. I hold it so my hand rests on the desk. Not uncomfortable. I can write fast enough
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I found a significant improvement in pen control when I put a screen protector on my Flyer. It offers some resistance to the pen movement thus reducing stray marks.
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Just need to practice. Holding the side of the screen help so your palm doesn't activate the touch. I agree it isn't as good as a real pad and pen but it does come in handy when you need to write down some quick notes. Dunno if I would do an entire class with note. After a while it starts to lag.
I find it kind of difficult to write with the pen, because I want to rest my hand on the tablet like a sheet of paper which then opens the virtual keyboard. My old Gateway convertible tablet, which only had pen function, no touch, was nicer (IMO) for writing because when writing, I COULD rest my hand on the screen like paper.
I would like to see a funciton that when the pen is in use (Like when the pen menu is open in the corner) the touch commands turn non-functional.
This would, in my opinion, boost the use of the pen majorly.
Does anyone else find this problem?
Also, I'm a lefty.
so right...
using both hand and pen has its pro's but i agree with you - i wish i could make the jetstream only "feel" the pen in certain situations.
personaly, i'm using a piece of clotch on the corner of the Jetstream to cover the problematic area. its a poor thing to do, but it gets me by...
maybe someday, if we'll live to see ICS on the Jetstream things will be better.
it would be great if there was a button you could press to briefly switch off the capacitative touch screen, leaving only the N-trig input. if this could be automated, then even better!
I posted on the HTC website too, hopefully they will pick it up.
I think the best note taking software right now is Quill for our tablet which recognize the n-trig and knows to ignore my hand.
If we had the support and interest in the device here in the xda community (which i don't think we do), once root is achieved, then turning off the capacitative touch while the pen menu is out could be possible... right?
Easy fix, I would think.
The solution to your issue is to use Tasker to switch the keyboard from HTC touch input to null keyboard on apps which you use the pen on.
Creds to posters on the HTC Flyer forum who had the same issue.
the issue is not just with the keyboard panel. it's with the date/notification bar the pops up every now and then..
Thanks for the info on Tasker and Null Keyboard. This works great, although Quill will likely remain my go-to app for taking longer notes.
I have to push way too hard in the Quill app to get pen strokes to appear... Thats the only negative to me. There needs to be a sensitivity option.
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I have to push way too hard in the Quill app to get pen strokes to appear... Thats the only negative to me. There needs to be a sensitivity option.
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Totally difference for me, I think it's really sensitive... Or it could just be the pen. Sometimes my pen acts really wonky like constantly giving out input signal even when I am not touching the screen.
New solution for this:
using app like "no system bar"
does the trick, now the root is available
Is there a way to do handwriting on the 10.1? I picked one up for our QC department and it'd be very hand if they could handwrite notes on their documents.
EDIT: Will be using Polaris office unless there is something better.
yes you can, there's a whole thread about pens on the accesorie section, with an app you can add to adjust the sensitivity.
Excellent, thanks for the heads up.
I highly recommend FreeNote. It is one of the few apps I have found that works the best for me.
Even though I think the tab is the best tablet on the market right now, the one thing its not very good at is handwriting. Even with the sensitivity app it's not as good as the transformer or the (sorry) ipad. It's a hardware problem; the handwriting lags behind the stylus, and it doesn't have palm recognition (so if you touch anything to the screen, it registers as a touch). If this was your purpose in getting the GT10.1 (and this is the only reason I'd say this); I'd suggest returning it for the transformer (original, I don't know anything about the prime).