I was wondering if anybody knew what the upcoming US releases would be looking like as far as features go. With the original line of SGS phones each major US carrier had their own features from the Vibrant, Captivate, Fascinate, and Epic....I'm a sprint customer with the Epic 4G....and I love the physical keyboard they included...my dream phone would be a Keyboard equipped version of this 1.2mhz, 1080p video shooting, dual-core, 4.3" screen beauty...any inclination of this possibility or something like it for the future US releases?
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As of now, there are 3 variants that have passed FCC certification for sale in the US, with FCC ID's A3LGTI9100, A3LGTI9100G, and A3LGTI9100T. I'm guessing the first is pretty much the same as the UK models we're seeing on the gray market, and that the 9100T is the rumored Tegra processor version. I have no idea what the 9100G is supposed to be.
There may be more variants in the pipeline -- the 9100G only showed up on the FCC site last week. I don't see anything in the FCC data that suggests one of the existing variants is a T-Mobile or CDMA (Sprint/Verizon) version, which suggests that those would be coming later, or that Samsung isn't interested in those markets (very unlikely).
FCC certification...what's the name of their website so I can take a look at the current variants...and I much appreciate your information!
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https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm is the search page; A3L is the grantee code, and I've been using GTI9100 as the product code. Basically these are the results of the FCC certification tests of the various radios (BT, WiFi, GSM, 3G, GPS) in each phone variant; looking at the frequency ranges can tell you which bands they're supporting. So far no mention of the 1700 MHz band used by T-Mobile USA 3G/4G.
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T-Mobile to get Samsung Galaxy S 2 says official Twitter account
ANDROID CENTRAL | FEBRUARY 17, 2011
http://pulsene.ws/11Khk
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Nvm didnt read the bottom part mode delete this please.
Sorry I got too happy and didnt read the full article and just copy and pasted the link.
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yup false alarm...........
I don't think the retraction of the tweet is any indication T-Mob wont be getting the S2. With the Galaxy 4G coming out in a few days, if mainstream customers new there was a phone twice as good on the horizon it would obliterate S4G sales. Plus from my understanding there's nothing in the specs that eliminates T-Mob as a possibility. 90% chance T-Mob gets this phone, which I'm of course stoked about.
This phone is said to be shipping with AT&T's 3G, but that it will work with any carrier. So, for you T-Mobile users, it will probably work, but only for 2G speeds. Sorry.
There is absolutely no way Samsung will make this super phone and limit its data potential to Att's ****ty 3G.
sirdowski said:
There is absolutely no way Samsung will make this super phone and limit its data potential to Att's ****ty 3G.
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http://galaxys2.samsungmobile.com/html/specification.html
dont forget tmobile has a 5gb limit its NOT unlimited
Per the link you supplied:
HSPA+ 21Mbps/ HSUPA 5.76Mbps
EDGE/ GPRS Class 12
Quad band GSM 850/900/1800/1900
Quad band UMTS 850/900/1900/2100
Seems to me T-mobile's HSPA+ will be compatible, unless I'm completely missing something.
And to the above comment, 5G is plenty, even for most heavy users.
Won't this device support both 3G company's? From the specs of the link
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Per the link you supplied:
HSPA+ 21Mbps/ HSUPA 5.76Mbps
EDGE/ GPRS Class 12
Quad band GSM 850/900/1800/1900
Quad band UMTS 850/900/1900/2100
Seems to me T-mobile's HSPA+ will be compatible, unless I'm completely missing something.
And to the above comment, 5G is plenty, even for most heavy users.
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Sure, T-Mobile UK is compatible
T-Mobile US's HSPA+ uses 1700/2100 or AWS.
Funk2641 said:
Sure, T-Mobile UK is compatible
T-Mobile US's HSPA+ uses 1700/2100 or AWS.
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Gotcha. I don't see why T-mobile wouldn't get this phone, as i said before, suppressing of information seems to be just a marketing strategy to not crush S4G sales coming up.
they wont get this phone immediatley as it will complete with the sgs 4g which they are getting.. eventually they may get it.
If the device is coming out in march outside the states, I'd think the new one will come out in some form in June or July like the last one did. That will give tmo a few months to sell their vibrant 4g and then allow it to be a decent midrange model thereafter. Considering that the 4g is going to be 149 with contract, its already the price of of a non flagship T-Mobile device. That could mean we have a small chance of getting this phone in April or may. They still need to make an aws version in order for us to have the phone on tmo. Given how much market share they made with the last galaxy I really think Samsung will want to not lose their lead in android market share. We will get at least some version of this phone. I hope now that US carriers all have ffc and the other features left out of the previous galaxy s for the states, that they won't need to give us a stripped gs2. Just my 2 cents.
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i'm waiting for the AWS version of the SGS2.... it's gonna be a long loooooooong wait, with the SGS4G stuck in between
I'm almost certain it is.
At least I'm hoping
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I'm almost certain it is.
At least I'm hoping
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that's one thing you do not need to worry about
look at the line of Galaxy S (Generation 1) phones, they have practically 1 variant for each single cell phone carrier on the planet.
some carriers even have 3 models of the same Galaxy S family
for example Tmobile USA have:
Galaxy S Vibrant
Nexus S
Galaxy S 4G
so we'll see our own flavor of SGS2 in due time
knowing their crazy naming scheme
i'll not be surprised to hear Galaxy S Vibrant II LOL
and probably comes with something chopped off like missing FFC or who knows what.
Hopefully they'll get some version of it... ATT blows..
So... any idea on how we're going to know which is the original phone model?
I guess we would just go off of the one coming out in March, and then try to buy that model off of whichever carrier carries it?
Because I wasn't very fond of the different versions of the Galaxy S - the Vibrant, the I9000 (which might be the same), the Captivate, the... who knows what else? Each carrier here (Rogers, Telus and Bell) had different versions. I don't even know what other ones like Virgin or WIND may have had for it (if they carried it).
On Samsung's website, the specs say that the new Galaxy S II supports 2g/3g/HSPA+ AT&T bands, as reported by Engadget and phonedog as well. However, I've heard from different sources that Samsung has locked down American GSM bands to avoid those across the pond buying international phones rather than the always slow to release cell-provider branded phones (like the Fascinate or Captivate)
My question is are the American GSM bands locked on the new Galaxy S II or can I use the phone with AT&T? I desperately need a new phone, given the fact that my Aria holds less than 6 hours worth of charge without having 3g or wifi on. I'd rather not wait and go ahead and pre-order this phone if I can.
lmao i hope they dont, because ive ordered one, and am planning on using it on my att
Samsung would not advertise it as Quad-Band GSM on its own website if the frequencies we locked would they?
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lmao i hope they dont, because ive ordered one, and am planning on using it on my att
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Please let us know if this works!!
Not sure where I read it but I did hear that all the bands are unlocks. This message came from Samsung.
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lmao i hope they dont, because ive ordered one, and am planning on using it on my att
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Where did you order yours from, if you dont mind me asking.
Thanx
This has been a hot topic of conversation over the last month or so but finally we have confirmation of the Samsung Galaxy S II specs that remained to be clarified.
Having spoken to the UK Product Manager for the Samsung Galaxy S II, we can confirm that UK stock will ship with the following:
1. Samsung Dual Core Exynos CPU (not NVidia Tegra 2)
2. 3G frequencies are 850/900/1900/2100 (Quad band)
3. Display is Super AMOLED Plus
4. Box contents: Handset, battery, charger, USB cable, headset, Quick start guide.
If you have an outstanding pre-order with Clove for the SGS2, you will be receiving an email regarding this confirmation of spec within the next day or so and you will be given the chance to cancel the order if this is not the specification that you were hoping for. However, we hope that for the majority of you this will be good news and we look forward to shipping your order as soon as possible.
source: http://blog.clove.co.uk/2011/04/14/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-uk-specs-confirmed-exynos-chip-quad-band-3g/
tublah said:
This has been a hot topic of conversation over the last month or so but finally we have confirmation of the Samsung Galaxy S II specs that remained to be clarified.
Having spoken to the UK Product Manager for the Samsung Galaxy S II, we can confirm that UK stock will ship with the following:
1. Samsung Dual Core Exynos CPU (not NVidia Tegra 2)
2. 3G frequencies are 850/900/1900/2100 (Quad band)
3. Display is Super AMOLED Plus
4. Box contents: Handset, battery, charger, USB cable, headset, Quick start guide.
If you have an outstanding pre-order with Clove for the SGS2, you will be receiving an email regarding this confirmation of spec within the next day or so and you will be given the chance to cancel the order if this is not the specification that you were hoping for. However, we hope that for the majority of you this will be good news and we look forward to shipping your order as soon as possible.
source: http://blog.clove.co.uk/2011/04/14/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-uk-specs-confirmed-exynos-chip-quad-band-3g/
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Yup, that's where I saw it. Thx tublah. Q... Is there a tegra 2 version of SGS2..?
soraxd said:
lmao i hope they dont, because ive ordered one, and am planning on using it on my att
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Where did you order it from? when are you expecting it's arrival?
soraxd said:
lmao i hope they dont, because ive ordered one, and am planning on using it on my att
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same here
i guess i better do a screenshot of handtec website
tublah said:
This has been a hot topic of conversation over the last month or so but finally we have confirmation of the Samsung Galaxy S II specs that remained to be clarified.
Having spoken to the UK Product Manager for the Samsung Galaxy S II, we can confirm that UK stock will ship with the following:
1. Samsung Dual Core Exynos CPU (not NVidia Tegra 2)
2. 3G frequencies are 850/900/1900/2100 (Quad band)
3. Display is Super AMOLED Plus
4. Box contents: Handset, battery, charger, USB cable, headset, Quick start guide.
If you have an outstanding pre-order with Clove for the SGS2, you will be receiving an email regarding this confirmation of spec within the next day or so and you will be given the chance to cancel the order if this is not the specification that you were hoping for. However, we hope that for the majority of you this will be good news and we look forward to shipping your order as soon as possible.
source: http://blog.clove.co.uk/2011/04/14/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-uk-specs-confirmed-exynos-chip-quad-band-3g/
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That's compatable with US T-Mobile HSPA right? if I'm not mistaken.
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That's compatable with US T-Mobile HSPA right? if I'm not mistaken.
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No sir, it won't work with T-Mobile except on Edge (2G). T-Mobile's 3G/"4G" uses the first half of the 1700 band. The i9100 doesn't support 1700 in the 3G freq.
Sorry! The G2X looks like a suitable alternative if you need a T-Mobile USA alternative to the GSII.
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On Samsung's website, the specs say that the new Galaxy S II supports 2g/3g/HSPA+ AT&T bands, as reported by Engadget and phonedog as well. However, I've heard from different sources that Samsung has locked down American GSM bands to avoid those across the pond buying international phones rather than the always slow to release cell-provider branded phones (like the Fascinate or Captivate)
My question is are the American GSM bands locked on the new Galaxy S II or can I use the phone with AT&T? I desperately need a new phone, given the fact that my Aria holds less than 6 hours worth of charge without having 3g or wifi on. I'd rather not wait and go ahead and pre-order this phone if I can.
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I have a real hard time believing this. Bands are hardware supported/unsupported. Sure, they can lock it via software somehow, but that'll easily be disbanded once custom ROMs come out.
Plus, my biggest grief with this "locked bands" claim is the fact that it'll make your phone completely useless with international travel. For instance, why would Samsung sell "unlocked versions" if the phone was unusable in the US? Doesn't make any sense to me, and probably means all these claims are false.
As I have already stated elsewhere expansys when asked on the phone said that the versions they had were dual band with euro freqs as sold. They had not been able to enable the 850/1900 in the menus. Many people here should be familiar with the tmo debacle with the G2X which was of course marketed on their own site as having the Quad band 3G but after launch saying it only support 850/1900 in hardware. This may or may not be true and they could be there and simply need enabling or to have the radios installed with a new radio update. At this time there is no AT&T 3G on that phone which is the bottom line for now.
When someone actually connects to AT&T 3G, that is when it is confirmed working, not before. I have yet to find such confirmation anywhere.
yeah i have to agree, i dont care what their website says, i'd bet a whole lot of money on the fact that this phone would not pick up ATT 3g bands right now if someone were to try their SIM in an SGS2.
that said, i dont think anyone has tried this yet. if it DID work, i'd pick one up tomorrow.
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As I have already stated elsewhere expansys when asked on the phone said that the versions they had were dual band with euro freqs as sold. They had not been able to enable the 850/1900 in the menus. Many people here should be familiar with the tmo debacle with the G2X which was of course marketed on their own site as having the Quad band 3G but after launch saying it only support 850/1900 in hardware. This may or may not be true and they could be there and simply need enabling or to have the radios installed with a new radio update. At this time there is no AT&T 3G on that phone which is the bottom line for now.
When someone actually connects to AT&T 3G, that is when it is confirmed working, not before. I have yet to find such confirmation anywhere.
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Let's clarify: The G2X debacle was due to an error on T-Mobile's behalf, with an official clarification from them as such:
"The T-Mobile G2x fact sheet, attached [PDF link], contains accurate information. The T-Mobile website is incorrect and we're working to correct it. The G2x supports 850/900/1800/1900 MHz for 2G/GPRS only, and supports 3G/4G UMTS/HSPA+ bands I and IV. The G2x does not support AT&T's 3G bands. This banding is hardware based."
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/27/t-mobile-g2x-lacks-quadband-hspa-shatters-dreams/
(And, let's keep in mind T-Mobile doesn't actually design/manufacture phones. On purpose or not, this was a screw-up on T-Mobile's website.)
Samsung's site clearly says that the Galaxy S2's hardware supports quad band UMTS. Even if it is carrier locked or something, the unlocked versions should not have this problem.
For sure, no problem waiting if you're choosing to play it safe. But, I still personally think this is a bunch of nonsense propagated by a few folks. Even the T-Mobile announcement above clarifies that the problem the inaccurate info caused was not from a software lock but by a lack of hardware support.
Guys, all this jiberish of unkocked/locked bands blah blah blah.
It has quadband it will work worldwide and AT&T and Verizon will have it by 3rd/11.
Cant say about T-Mobile. But they are bought by AT&T so eventually yes as it will be one big AT&T network anyway.
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Fellas, good news on UMTS quad band support: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059089
cmd512 said:
Fellas, good news on UMTS quad band support: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059089
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Don't say good news until someone has actually had it work...
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Don't say good news until someone has actually had it work...
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With all due respect, I can say just about anything I damn want short of the mod telling me otherwise. Are you a moderator?
Your claims in that thread are not even accurate. You continue to say that bands are selectable. I understand this, and never argued this point. Please stop for a minute and understanding what I as well as several other people are very happy about: All phones come with defaulted bands enabled or disabled... those I9100 users are showing that out of the box in automatic band selection mode, all 4 UMTS bands are ENABLED. Big difference and has nothing to do with the fact that you can go in and personally enabled whatever band you want.
I'm in New Zealand and i use telecom XT network (umts 850mhz) so obviously the at&t version will work fine. I also perhaps have the opportunity of buying the umts quadband version (850,900,1900,2100) which would probably not have the same restrictions as the at&t 4G.
However, from lurking here i can see that there seems to be more dev happening on the 4G, is this correct or would i be better off with the vanilla quadband 3g version? (im not 100% sure where the local stores source these vanilla phones from)
One day i might change to another provider in which case i would need 900 umts but if there is more chance of getting more bang for my buck with the 4g i will go that way.
Yeah it would be easier just to buy a galaxy 2 but its big and cheap feeling and i just dont trust samsung build quality or gps as much as the Moto.
thanks in advance.
the 4G is a marketing term from AT&T. its just 14mb HSPDA+
Whether a local version vs AT&T version is worth it, that is up to you
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the 4G is a marketing term from AT&T. its just 14mb HSPDA+
Whether a local version vs AT&T version is worth it, that is up to you
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Yep i understand that the 4g is just a marketing buzzword. What i'm asking is to me it looks like the vanilla phone appears to be identical hardware just with an extra 3g band? Also which model is likely to have the better dev support and moto support if they do decide to unlock the bootloader for certain ops?
Is the atrix 4g only sold on AT&T or are other operators also selling htis elsewhere in the world?
I'm just wanting to make sure i buy the model with the best support moving forward as it has to be a keeper for a while. I've flashed the absolute hell out of my milestone and sadly realise that due to the ram its never going to amount to much more.
Hi, I am living close to Europe and am trying to find the Galaxy S II LTE. I have heard its not planned to be released in the US anytime soon but that it is (has?) planned to be sold in Eur. I know that Rogers (carrier in Canada) will be supporting this phone but i get the impression that it will be locked phones only for Rogers customer. Does anyone know of online places that do/will carry unlocked versions of this phone? (in Eu, US, or Canada)
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Cheers,
-Gaiko
you're going to have to end up waiting until it's released in your region. it doesn't look like any region (americas/europe/asia) are going to be sharing LTE bands.
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you're going to have to end up waiting until it's released in your region. it doesn't look like any region (americas/europe/asia) are going to be sharing LTE bands.
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What about non LTE? That is, using the rest of the phone in various areas. I ask because I travel most of the year so using the phone just in one place isn't an option for me (so the LTE aspect is less important to me).
I'll wait for Galaxy S3, it will have the NFC chip (beside the usual hardware upgrades).
I really don't care about download speed on a phone, but I'm very pissed that Bell will relaunch the S2 LTE with an NFC chip. The only think that makes it up is the screen size, 4.3" is the max I can use and the new LTE phone will have a 4.5" screen. I still cannot believe Samsung pulled a fast one like that on all of us and removed the NFC chip last minute.
I just want to know how different the development will be for the international version compared to either the Canadian/US version (which presumably will be the same with S4 & 2GB RAM). People are posting that Samsung will give the international version updates earlier but is it that much sooner than other variants (or do the NA variants not get updates at all)?
I'm not sure which to order since I'm from the US (I have no use for LTE but price and ease of warranty are factors).
This is my problem too, which to get?. I'd love to have more development options, but at the same time I want faster speeds.
At a glance it appears that the internation one is going to be HSPA+ 21Mbit/s connections. But the LTE North American models will have LTE support and if LTE isn't avalible in your area then it defaults down to DC-HSPA 42Mbit/s not to mention the 2GBs of ram.
This is a hard choice :/
Both will have great development. Look at the intl note and the north america note for example
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I also don't know which version to choose... Less pricy 2gb dual core with LTE or international with more support quadcore better GPU but less ram and no LTE...
I wanna know which one is better for multitasking, also if the battery life is better on the dual core or not and if 2gb vs 1gb really matters...
Id choose the usa version but i just hate that awful carrier logo on the front of the phone, it ruins all the beauty!
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Id choose the usa version but i just hate that awful carrier logo on the front of the phone, it ruins all the beauty!
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Thankfully my carrier doesn't brand there model number on the phone itself. I think they do this because they sell there phones in an unbranded/unlock versions to other non-major tel companys in Canada (don't know if this holds true for the SGS3 when it comes out though)
I've made my decision I want more ram and faster connection speeds through LTE and DC-HSPA. So now I'm just waiting for the thing to release lol. Also waiting to hear back from them if i can get it cheaper as an upgrade, otherwise their full price will be $599
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Don't mean to drag this back up, but I was going to create a new post until I found this one.
I am in the same predicament. I'm wondering if I should get the Intl or US model.
I'm on T-Mobile, and they will be refarming their PCS band for HSPA+. I wonder if it's a safe bet to get the Intl model and rely only on a single 1900 MHz band for data, or go with the carrier's model and enjoy the potential of 2 HSPA+ bands (1700/1900)...
Plus, there's the development support issue as well. I've enjoyed my Intl SGS2 when I was on AT&T because of all the developer support - love the mods and the ROMs. Then I moved to a GNex when I went to TMobile.
My ideal ROM situation: CM9 ROM, stock Android Experience ROM, and modified Samsung ROM (themed to look/feel like ICS so I can keep the camera app while enjoying the stability and the highly optimized framework). I love using Titanium Backup and ROM Manager to basically change ROMs without loosing much data whenever I'm in a different mood.
I'd like to eventually have 1 SGS3, 1 iPhone (the next model, esp when TMobile's PCS band gets refarmed), and I'll keep my GNex for shiz and giggles.
Just not sure which to get - both seem to have their pros and cons.