OK, so I'm on GSB 3.4 (though this issue began with 3.3), and I'm having a problem with my phone rebooting (screen cuts off after about a second, and the phone immediately reboots to the skateboard screen) at the following times:
1. Whenever I attempt to wake the phone from sleep.
2. Whenever I hang up a phone call.
3. Whenever I get a phone call while the phone is asleep.
4. Whenever I plug the phone in to charge while the phone is asleep (be it a wall socket or PC) [see below].
These problems only occur when the phone is NOT plugged into a charging source; the problem appears to be nonexistent in this scenario. But as soon as I unplug, all 4 become auto-crash scenarios.
I tried going back to GSB 3.2, but no dice. I then resorted to the stock-ish XTRsense ROM, which fixed the issue, but going back to Froyo just was too big a downgrade for me.
Throughout this process, I full-wiped multiple times, hoping to track the issue to an app or setting, but even before restoring anything through TBU (I think I may have just let the phone go to sleep at the "Touch the Android" initial setup screen once), the problem persisted, eliminating apps, settings, or CM7 CPU modifications as possible culprits.
I've continued to play with CM7 CPU settings even up till now, but I'm not getting much of anywhere. I've now resorted to the "Caffeine" app, which just never lets the phone go to sleep, and I just turn the brightness down or activate the "Desk Clock" mode in the default Clock app to save battery.
HELP?
Have you tried Tazz's ROM or CondemnedSoul's ROM, just to see what happens with those? CS's ROM uses ADW as the default launcher (not sure about Tazz's) - perhaps it's something with LauncherPro?
Had this happen once
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My phones use to freeze on the unlock screen, it happened in multiple roms. i switched back to the "ondemand" governor and it hasn't happened since. not sure if it the same issue but it might help.
My last name is also Schultz ....
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Guys, just thought I throw out the idea that it might an overclocking (i.e., hardware) issue?
I see that the Conap's CFS kernel that GSB 3.4 uses is max clocked at 604 MHz, but maybe that's too high for your particular phone?
I also think that schultzmd's comment about the ondemand governor helping might point to the clock stepping to a higher speed when coming out of sleep (and being related to clock speed). Maybe try running the phone at a lower speed just to see if its better behaved might prove instructive.
Just a thought...
Cheers!
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Guys, just thought I throw out the idea that it might an overclocking (i.e., hardware) issue?
I see that the Conap's CFS kernel that GSB 3.4 uses is max clocked at 604 MHz, but maybe that's too high for your particular phone?
I also think that schultzmd's comment about the ondemand governor helping might point to the clock stepping to a higher speed when coming out of sleep (and being related to clock speed). Maybe try running the phone at a lower speed just to see if its better behaved might prove instructive.
Just a thought...
Cheers!
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Sounds familiar: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14016867&postcount=5186
I'll try the changing the max, but I know I've tried as low as 604 max (19 min) with the problem persisting, and as high as 710 or 768 before GSB 3.3 (when the problem started) with no major issues. And I had already been using Ondemand when the problem started, having stopped using Smartass when I thought it slowing the performance down a bit. Any other governors I should try?
And does the overclocking issue not apply when a phone is charging?
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Sounds familiar: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14016867&postcount=5186
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lol, doogald...I had no idea .
I should know better than to come in to any thread you've already weighed-in on and know that you've already exhausted all the possibilities.
I'll leave the Op to your very capable hands.
Cheers and thanks for keeping an eye out here on XDA and over at AF too (and probably six or seven other sites ).
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And does the overclocking issue not apply when a phone is charging?
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Well, you are introducing some extra heat into the equation while charging, which might be enough to tip the balance against you if it is indeed an overclock issue.
scary alien said:
lol, doogald...I had no idea .
I should know better than to come in to any thread you've already weighed-in on and know that you've already exhausted all the possibilities.
I'll leave the Op to your very capable hands.
Cheers and thanks for keeping an eye out here on XDA and over at AF too (and probably six or seven other sites ).
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You would have only seen that if you had seen the post in the GSB thread, of course.
I am still going to suggest trying Tazz or Condemned. From what the OP says, he should be able to see that it's having the same issue pretty quickly.
But, just to rule out the OC issue, you could try setting the max to stock 528 and see if it still happens.
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You would have only seen that if you had seen the post in the GSB thread, of course.
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lol...that post was on the 519th page of (currently) 530 pages! (I read the first page, does that count? )
Still crashing on 528 max / 19 min...
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Still crashing on 528 max / 19 min...
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How about on Tazz or Condemned? And, 19.2 is too slow for a minimum for this kernel. 245 should be the minimum.
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Well, you are introducing some extra heat into the equation while charging, which might be enough to tip the balance against you if it is indeed an overclock issue.
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I was inquiring as to why the issue DOESN'T happen when I'm charging. I'm not sure if that's what you were saying, but I have no issues while the phone is charging; it's weird, because CM7's CPU governor doesn't allow profiles for "screen-off", "charging", or anything like that. It just seems to make my problem more random and untraceable. It literally is happening on EVERY CPU setting, even 480 max (which to me, is just pointless to actually use)
I've full-wiped so many times in the last few days, I'm wary to just try a different Gingerbread ROM when GSB is (was, for me) so stable and full-featured. I'm trying my darnedest to just stick it out and charge-charge-charge to avoid the issue.
One more thing: if, right after the phone reboots itself, I unlock it before the screen goes off and manually put it to sleep and quickly wake it back up, the issue usually doesn't occur (and I can keep doing this, putting it to sleep and waking it back up again, with no issue). But if I unlock it and let it sit and reach the screen timeout itself (or never unlock it after it reboots, then let it sit for a while), the problem reoccurs.
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I've full-wiped so many times in the last few days, I'm wary to just try a different Gingerbread ROM when GSB is (was, for me) so stable and full-featured. I'm trying my darnedest to just stick it out and charge-charge-charge to avoid the issue.
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I have used both GSB and Condemned and you will not be missing anything. I stopped using GSB because I could not get market updates to stick reliably. I do not have that issue at all with Condemned.
Right now the only issue with the latest Condemned is apparently a GPS issue, so I would go with V6 or V7 rather than V8 for now until CondemnedSoul gets an update. Or, if you don't navigate, go ahead with V8. It's just fine.
You're obviously having a stability issue with GSB now, so you have nothing to lose but about 45 minutes of time and a Nandroid Restore to go back to GSB if you don't like it.
So, I had a minor issue that was fixed by switching to a different ROM. It's worth a try.
I wish you luck finding a solution.
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I was inquiring as to why the issue DOESN'T happen when I'm charging. I'm not sure if that's what you were saying, but I have no issues while the phone is charging; it's weird, because CM7's CPU governor doesn't allow profiles for "screen-off", "charging", or anything like that. It just seems to make my problem more random and untraceable. It literally is happening on EVERY CPU setting, even 480 max (which to me, is just pointless to actually use)
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Nate,
Sorry about that ...I was confused from where you asked in post #8 about whether or not overclocking was in effect while charging (it can/could be, depending on the overclocking monitor/govenor I suppose) and I had lost that point from your original post.
I would say take doogald's advice and switch to at least some other ROM since that would help indicate if it is indeed a software issue or a hardware issue. Its sounding like its not clock-speed related given the things you've already tried. If you've still got issues on other ROMs, that would tend to point to some hardware issue (our Erii are getting a little long in the tooth at this point, after all).
You could even flash back to stock and see if the phone is still stable there since you can always re-root and re-restore your Nandroid backups.
Good luck...I hope you figure something out.
Problem is alive and well on Condemned GB. *sigh*
XTRsense was fine and flawless, but going back to Froyo after months on gingerbread was just too depressing for me...
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I'm going to make one more suggestion - not sure if you have tried this yet, but try flashing GSB from a full wipe. When you go through the setup, DO NOT LOG IN TO YOUR GOOGLE ACCOUNT. After the launcher starts, go into the market, let it log you in to your Google account then, and then install all of your apps and change all of your settings from scratch.
When you log in with your Google account when installing a CM ROM, it tries to restore your apps and settings from your last CM ROM install. It may be that you have some weird setting or app that is causing this that you just keep reinstalling when you flash the ROM and log in with your account.
If you've already tried this, then try running xtrSENSE or xtrROM instead. They are both excellent ROMs and clearly your phone likes them better.
[edit] Oh, and try leaving your min at 245 MHz for a while. See if that helps your phone run better. It should, and it should have the exact same battery life as 19.2, as nonsensical as that sounds.
It is literally happening as soon as I boot the phone after a fresh GB install. I four-corner the Android setup screen, let the screen time out, and boom I'm screwed.
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Hi all, I'm running Cyanogenmod 6.5.7 and in the last couple weeks I've picked up my phone only to find it was off, not sleeping. It still has plenty of charge left (I can't remember when my phone last went below 50%), and it boots back up without a problem. You wouldn't know there was anything wrong except for the fact that it sometimes turns off on its own.
My first problem is that I don't know where to look to see what could be the trouble. It's running ADWLauncher EX. Beyond that and the OS I don't know what could be relevant. I switched to CM7 last month, up to then I'd been running GingerLOL and I never had this issue.
Any help or advice is appreciated.
The devs would say do a full format and flash and see if it still happens.
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if you want to know what is happening install logcat from market and check for errors..
i used it to know why mms wont downlaoad and logcat showed that mms ip is wrong and changed it and it works
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Hi all, I'm running Cyanogenmod 6.5.7 and in the last couple weeks I've picked up my phone only to find it was off, not sleeping. It still has plenty of charge left (I can't remember when my phone last went below 50%), and it boots back up without a problem. You wouldn't know there was anything wrong except for the fact that it sometimes turns off on its own.
My first problem is that I don't know where to look to see what could be the trouble. It's running ADWLauncher EX. Beyond that and the OS I don't know what could be relevant. I switched to CM7 last month, up to then I'd been running GingerLOL and I never had this issue.
Any help or advice is appreciated.
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Try tuning down your overclock frequency... if you have overclocked it... it sometimes happens cuz of that... if you havent overclocked then theres some other problem...
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if you want to know what is happening install logcat from market and check for errors..
i used it to know why mms wont downlaoad and logcat showed that mms ip is wrong and changed it and it works
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I've done that, but does logcat hold on to recent logs automatically, or do I have to turn on "save to sd card"?
I think I might be having this same issue. I left my phone on and plugged in to charge not even for a half hour or less then I came back to it later and pressed the power button to try to turn it back on but it wouldn't turn on. Then I pressed and held it a second and it wouldn't turn on. I unplugged the battery then plugged it back in then it powered up fine. I seem to be having this issue every once in awhile and I am not quite certain why it is doing this. Also it seems like it has an issue with charging on my computer. I plug it and it the computer is telling me that it can be connected to a higher speed port which makes no since as I have 2 usb 2.0 ports and 1 usb sata port. But basically I plug it in with a full charge and it has no problem keeping it charged but when it ends up going down to at least 50% the charge just keep deceasing and never charges. I just hope that I can make it stop this as it is getting quite annoying maybe it is just the battery or something but I can't see how as it isn't even 6 months old.
I've tried using Logcat but unless you set it to save the log every few seconds it doesn't help. If there's an error it doesn't get caught by Logcat because whatever it does, it turns off the whole phone.
What are you overclocked to?
I'm not, unless CM7 comes already set to overclock. I don't play games on my phone so not much point overclocking for me.
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I'm not, unless CM7 comes already set to overclock. I don't play games on my phone so not much point overclocking for me.
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Well then. I don't know. Have you tried reflashing the ROM?
Not yet. I was hoping Mik's CM7 6.6.1 would have been declared stable by now, but I guess I'll have to settle for 6.5.8.
Quick off-topic question: ADW Launcher always comes to a grinding halt immediately after a reboot, to the point it gives the force-close option window. Is that because there are widgets installed to the partition on the sdcard, thanks to app2sd? I checked under applications and it says they're installed to the phone, but I thought I heard that app2sd (I'm using Darktremor's, as suggested by Mik) effectively takes the option out of your hands, making it moot. If that's the case, how do I delete the partition, since I'll be doing a full wipe and reinstall when I flash the ROM again.
I don't play games 2
Dammit! Yesterday I did a complete wipe (return to factory, wipe dalvik), reformatted the sd card, and updated the ROM to 6.5.8 and it just shut down on its own again. I even saw it happen... while it was sleeping, I saw the buttons light up and blink once or twice, then it shut off. The screen stayed off.
I did a clean install and haven't touched the clock settings. I reinstalled my apps of course, but I don't have anything that runs constantly in the background that I'm aware of. I installed ADW Launcher EX, I don't know if that matters.
Does this mean it could have a physical fault somewhere? I'd really hate to have to go through the hassle of reloading the LG stock ROM and unrooting it (that's possible, right) to send it in for repair.
I had the same problem with gingerbread and the related roms.
But my problems were about the overclock frequencies. I used the italian rom GingerLoL 1.5.2 and I set the frequencies in this mode: 320-729 smartass v2. No more problems.
I don't know why I hadn't this problem with Froyo's rom...
I'm tempted to fiddle with the clock settings now that I know just reflashing the rom doesn't help. It seems by default CM7 is set to 245-600mhz, with the "smartass" governor. I figure I might as well bump the low end to 320, but where's the "v2" version of smartass you mention? It's not in the list.
I have exactly the same issue! Tried 3 different firmwares, 3 different roms and different kernels too, but it seems to reboot by itself and also really slow sometimes to scroll. Can't solve this... maybe some hardware troubles? some new defected cpu ? I sent this phone 1 month ago in warranty and they changed me the logic board, then when i got it back, it started to have this trouble. Before this, never had this trouble.
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Hi all, I'm running Cyanogenmod 6.5.7 and in the last couple weeks I've picked up my phone only to find it was off, not sleeping. It still has plenty of charge left (I can't remember when my phone last went below 50%), and it boots back up without a problem. You wouldn't know there was anything wrong except for the fact that it sometimes turns off on its own.
My first problem is that I don't know where to look to see what could be the trouble. It's running ADWLauncher EX. Beyond that and the OS I don't know what could be relevant. I switched to CM7 last month, up to then I'd been running GingerLOL and I never had this issue.
Any help or advice is appreciated.
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Make a full wipe and don't let your phone with low internal memory, it worked for me and i was having the same issue
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Make a full wipe and don't let your phone with low internal memory, it worked for me and i was having the same issue
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I have done a full wipe, but I don't understand your other suggestion. I'm using Darktremor's Apps2SD, so I'm pretty sure I'm not running low on ACTUAL internal memory.
As per my last comment, I bumped the low end of the governor to 320mhz and there was no trouble until two days ago when it turned off on its own again, making it the longest it went without the spontaneous shutdown. However, it then broke its record for SHORTEST time because it shutdown again five hours later.
Can anyone thing of anything else, or should I start looking for my warranty info?
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I have done a full wipe, but I don't understand your other suggestion. I'm using Darktremor's Apps2SD, so I'm pretty sure I'm not running low on ACTUAL internal memory.
As per my last comment, I bumped the low end of the governor to 320mhz and there was no trouble until two days ago when it turned off on its own again, making it the longest it went without the spontaneous shutdown. However, it then broke its record for SHORTEST time because it shutdown again five hours later.
Can anyone thing of anything else, or should I start looking for my warranty info?
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I'm my case the phone boots and when it load all the aplications it reboots... but one time i quickly go to setting>applications>manage applications and there has less than 1 mb... so i think it was building something like caches... I wiped everything and my phone worked as usually... but i installed a lot of things again and it keeps rebooting and rebooting... i wiped everything again and installed just few things, leaving my phone to have high internal memory... it worked!(actually i have 42 mbs of free space and it never happened again)
I'm running JT's vanilla GB [over Heimdall'ed stock EH03] on my fascinate.
I use my fascinate as my alarm clock, and I woke up this morning to a extremely choppy ringtone. < and that is is the understatement of the day.
Anyway, I try to press "dismiss" to dismiss my alarm, and it feels like the screen is not responding. I press the power button, and it takes probably like 5 seconds to complete the CRT animation. After that, I can see the screen is still on (hard to tell unless in the dark with the AMOLED), and it won't do a thing after that until I 3-button-combo or take out the battery.
As a side note, it was also doing this on my previous rom, SuperClean3 v8.1. One of the main reasons I switched back to JT's vanilla gb.
The first night the alarm worked fine. [2 days ago] Yesterday, I was watching some video files, I pressed the power button, I left for a few minutes, I came back and it was frozen. [Took foreverrrrrr for the CRT turn-on animation, and screen did not respond].
This is really really annoying, and I would really like to find out what is wrong with my phone.
One more thing I should mention.. this same kind of thing happened once in a while on the stock froyo firmware, when I bought it on craigslist. I would come to it sometimes and turn it on, and the lockscreen would show and the touchscreen wouldn't respond. I had to take the batt. out then cuz I didn't know about 3-button-combo.
The USB would only charge and not transfer files and only would charge.
So I sent it in cuz samsung said I had 1 mo. warranty left, and then they said they fixed everything in the ticked, and I got it back and it seemed to work. [the usb file transfer worked..]
So can anybody give me any advice? Like logcat? Would that tell me what is causing this problem?
Any help is appreciated!
Are your CPU settings stock? I've noticed the "sleep of death", which sounds similar to your issue, when I was undervolted too much at 100mhz.
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Are your CPU settings stock? I've noticed the "sleep of death", which sounds similar to your issue, when I was undervolted too much at 100mhz.
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Thanks for the reply. I will look into this 'sleep of death' thing.
And I haven't edited my cpu settings. I went to superuser to be sure and the only apps listed are Superuser, Terminal Emulator, and Titanium Backup.
So I just went on a 1-hour trip, and when I got to where I was going, this happened to me again. The screen-on animation was slower than a slug on salt. 3-button-combo reset, I let it reboot, and it was fine.
I just got home 1/2 hr ago and it did it again.
Sigh.. well I only have like 2 apps that always run, 3G Watchdog and Equalizer. I've uninstalled 3G WD just to see if it does anything.
Edit: I will install ROM Manager and set the absolute minimum freq to 200mhz, and see what happens. That would make sense if it's messing up at 100mhz when the screen goes off, and then it's not able to think fast enough to up it back to 1ghz.
It sounds like it might be an issue with your phone if the problem follows you between roms and your kernel settings are stock. That is unless this is a more common issue with those roms, but I don't think they are. The sleep of death issue that I've run into before is simply the phone refusing to wake up, requiring a 3-button reset/battery pull, so I'm not sure about the slowness to respond before freezing that you've run in to.
I'd try setting the minimum frequency to 200mhz with an app like voltage control (rom manager is for rom flashing, backups/restore), maybe that would help the phone's responsiveness regarding waking up properly. I'm not sure though since when I had the sleep of death issue mentioned before, I just lessened the undervolting I had done and it seemed to resolve it. I don't have much expertise to share on your specific issue though, I'm sorry. I'd almost be inclined to believe that it might be a more phone-specific problem if you're running stock kernel settings on roms where other users haven't reported the same issue, but trying the 200mhz thing can't hurt.
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It sounds like it might be an issue with your phone if the problem follows you between roms and your kernel settings are stock. That is unless this is a more common issue with those roms, but I don't think they are. The sleep of death issue that I've run into before is simply the phone refusing to wake up, requiring a 3-button reset/battery pull, so I'm not sure about the slowness to respond before freezing that you've run in to.
I'd try setting the minimum frequency to 200mhz with an app like voltage control (rom manager is for rom flashing, backups/restore), maybe that would help the phone's responsiveness regarding waking up properly. I'm not sure though since when I had the sleep of death issue mentioned before, I just lessened the undervolting I had done and it seemed to resolve it. I don't have expertise to share on your specific issue though, I'm sorry. I'd almost be inclined to believe that it might be a more phone-specific problem if you're running stock kernel settings on roms where other users haven't reported the same issue, but trying the 200mhz thing can't hurt.
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My bad, I meant ROM Toolbox. It has lots of apps built in including a CPU slider. Anyhow disabling 100mhz did not fix anything. So tonight I will set the minimum frequency to 800 or even 1000 mhz because I want to see if that stops the freezing up. If it does, then I'll know it's a clock speed issue.
I should also mention I sent it in for USB repair. It wouldn't connect to PC, it'd only charge. I also mentioned to Samsung it would lock up every so often from waking up. They upgraded froyo to gingerbread and said it passed all tests, sent it back, I never stayed on the firmware they gave me long enough to see if it froze up.
So on the stock roms, do they underclock the cpu frequency by default??
I don't believe that the cpu is underclocked or undervolted by default. I'd try flashing the stock firmware (EH03), and seeing if the issue happens there as well. Although I thought you mentioned it happened to you on superclean before, and I think that's just a modified stock rom? But it would be worth trying I suppose, then you could be sure it's a hardware issue and see about possibly getting a replacement. I'm assuming that you're still under warranty if you've sent the phone back recently enough for them to put gingerbread on it?
Other than that, I can't really think of anything else.. Maybe try jumping on IRC sometime and hitting up some of the people (that are generally more knowledgeable than myself) on there, they'd probably be able to give you a good idea of whether or not it's an issue with your specific phone. Although that's what it sounds like to me, I'm no expert.
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I don't believe that the cpu is underclocked or undervolted by default. I'd try flashing the stock firmware (EH03), and seeing if the issue happens there as well. Although I thought you mentioned it happened to you on superclean before, and I think that's just a modified stock rom? But it would be worth trying I suppose, then you could be sure it's a hardware issue and see about possibly getting a replacement. I'm assuming that you're still under warranty if you've sent the phone back recently enough for them to put gingerbread on it?
Other than that, I can't really think of anything else.. Maybe try jumping on IRC sometime and hitting up some of the people (that are generally more knowledgeable than myself) on there, they'd probably be able to give you a good idea of whether or not it's an issue with your specific phone. Although that's what it sounds like to me, I'm no expert.
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Lol, when I sent it in there was like half a month or so left on the warranty, the person said it expires at the end of this month [Dec] so I figure maybe a day or two.
What's the IRC channel info? freenode?
EDIT: I forgot to ask something. So you are saying, the stock firmware [EH03 or froyo EH09] runs the cpu clock constantly at 1GHz? Even when it's sleeping? Wouldn't that give bad battery life? [lol, speaking of batteries, I just got a new one and it's charging]
I had this happen to me 6 months ago. You my friend need a replacement phone. It has nothing to do with the rom/kernal. I tried everything. Sometimes phones just take a crap. Got a replacement. Ran the same thing I ran when it was happening and haven't had a problem since. Sorry to hear. Just explain it it Verizon and see what they do.
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I had this happen to me 6 months ago. You my friend need a replacement phone. It has nothing to do with the rom/kernal. I tried everything. Sometimes phones just take a crap. Got a replacement. Ran the same thing I ran when it was happening and haven't had a problem since. Sorry to hear. Just explain it it Verizon and see what they do.
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This is bad news indeed, since I am not even sure how many days I have on the warranty. But I think I will Odin EH03, and then set the alarm tonight. If I wake up and it's done it again, I will call up samsung and tell them and hopefully I have warranty.
But please, tell me, when you tried to turn on the phone did the CRT animation go very slowly? and then when you pressed power, it wouldn't come on again?
Edit 2: alright! I call samsung and I have warranty until Jan 9. Woot.. So I set up an RMA with samsung, I will Odin EH03 tonight. If I wake up to a choppy alarm and a non-responsive screen, I shall send it to samsung ASAP and I hope they gimme a brand new Fascinate. that would be awesome..
Nice, glad to hear you got the warranty thing figured out. I was thinking it sounded like an issue with your phone in specific and it sounds like the other poster's experience would suggest that. Hopefully it's an issue that they can replicate and don't give you any issues getting a replacement.
To answer your question, no, the stock kernel settings wouldn't keep the processor at the highest frequency. The only way I can see that happening is if you set the screen-off profile to "performance", and I'm not sure why anyone would do that because it would indeed yield bad battery life I'd think. I'm guessing the stock kernel defaults to an "ondemand"-like profile, where it would scale the frequency according to load and favor lower frequencies or go in to a deep sleep when the screen is off.
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Nice, glad to hear you got the warranty thing figured out. I was thinking it sounded like an issue with your phone in specific and it sounds like the other poster's experience would suggest that. Hopefully it's an issue that they can replicate and don't give you any issues getting a replacement.
To answer your question, no, the stock kernel settings wouldn't keep the processor at the highest frequency. The only way I can see that happening is if you set the screen-off profile to "performance", and I'm not sure why anyone would do that because it would indeed yield bad battery life I'd think. I'm guessing the stock kernel defaults to an "ondemand"-like profile, where it would scale the frequency according to load and favor lower frequencies or go in to a deep sleep when the screen is off.
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Oh. well the reason I asked is because you said this: I don't believe that the cpu is underclocked or undervolted by default.
So this morning, I woke up to my iPod's alarm, which I had set as a backup a few minutes after my Phone alarm should have gone off. I went to see if the phone was frozen, like I was hoping, so that it would reliably broken , but instead it was off. I turn it on, it shows the full green battery.. then it boots up like nothing was wrong. But I think that turning off randomly every night [which I assume it should do every time] is enough for Samsung to realize my phone really is screwed and that they need to do something about that.
So anyway, I printed out the label, packed my phone, and dropped my phone off at the local UPS drop off.
Hopefully I will be receiving some good news from samsung soon [i.e. that they will give me a replacement... ]
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Oh. well the reason I asked is because you said this: I don't believe that the cpu is underclocked or undervolted by default.
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Yeah, looking back on that, I misspoke. Technically, UNDERvolting/clocking is just reducing the voltage or clock speed from the "default" kernel settings. So technically, since the stock settings are the "default", they (by definition) would not be "undervolted" or "underclocked". I guess all I was trying to say is that I'm sure whatever the default settings are, they're set for a balance of performance, battery life, and stability. Just because the default max frequency is 1000mhz, doesn't mean that the CPU will stay there, that's what kernel governors are for essentially: to tell the CPU how to scale based on load (as I understand it at least).
Hopefully things go well with the replacement. Just curious, why are you dealing with Samsung directly as opposed to Verizon?
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Yeah, looking back on that, I misspoke. Technically, UNDERvolting/clocking is just reducing the voltage or clock speed from the "default" kernel settings. So technically, since the stock settings are the "default", they (by definition) would not be "undervolted" or "underclocked". I guess all I was trying to say is that I'm sure whatever the default settings are, they're set for a balance of performance, battery life, and stability. Just because the default max frequency is 1000mhz, doesn't mean that the CPU will stay there, that's what kernel governors are for essentially: to tell the CPU how to scale based on load (as I understand it at least).
Hopefully things go well with the replacement. Just curious, why are you dealing with Samsung directly as opposed to Verizon?
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1. I'm not the original owner
2. I'm not a Verizon subscriber. PagePlus Celluar [A verizon MVNO] is my service provider. They have much better plans, including monthly, and prepaid, if you ask me.
Kernel issue.
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Yess..
Good news! Got an email saying my phone has been shipped:
Code:
Original Problem:
TECHNICAL INQUIRY - PHONE FREEZING / LOCKED UP - FREEZE/DELAY BETWEEN MENU FUNCTIONS
Problem found:
BAD BGA COMPONENT
Solution:
REPLACED PBA
I guess the PBA is basically the motherboard? I suppose that could have been the cause of overnight freezing, and so my phone should be fixed.
Nice.. Just 2 days left on my warranty. Cutting it kinda close, I know lol
Very well done sir
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(summarized below in tl;dr version)
Since my problem I need help with showed up after going back to stock + root, I thought I'd ask in general before filling up the ROM discussion in development about the problem that I found after updating to ICS (leaked).
Had an odd problem crop up on me with scrosler's CleanROM 2.2 SP1 running (will 'splain in a sec, and tl;dr sum-up at the end), so I relocked, flashed back to pre-OTA official firmware and then let the OTA run. All was good, and I was happy. I unlocked again, installed Amon Ra, reinstalled SU, and started putting in my happy-fun root required tools (Oh Titanium, I likes you so). Then, my problem reappeared.
So my problem is occasionally the touchscreen would act "wacky" at times. Specifically, while in my browser, sometimes when I tried to scroll while browsing, the display would act like I was using pinch-zoom. It acted like I was touching the top left corner of the display in portrait mode, and zoom-in/-out according to how I was moving my touch that I intended to scroll. Then I noticed that games which required multi-touch had significant problems reading constant touch on most of the top-half of the display (left half in landscape mode with the carrier name on the left). I like Age of Zombies, and while the game would start off running right, within 20-60 seconds, the movement virtual controller would rapidly turn on and off, leaving me able to fire but not move. Grand Theft Auto was unplayable, as every time I touched a direction key in driving mode, the system would lose track of my holding the gas.
Troubleshooting took a while, as I had installed a lot of apps, and made a few changes at once after everything appeared to run properly. Ultimately, the problem appears to be caused by underclocking, and I can't figure out how to kill that and lock myself at stock speed. Haven't tried an overclocking capable kernel to see if they run any better, and haven't tried checking voltages to see if bumping them on underclocks would fix it.
I have used Antutu CPU master, an old version of SetCPU, and System Tuner Pro (from 3c). I can set the min and max CPU to 1.52, and it seems to stay for a while, but eventually, the setting reverts to allowing underclocking and my touchscreen gets goofy.
tl;dr: My system, even after restoring to RUU/OTA, wants to underclock. When the CPU runs under stock speed, my touch-screen misbehaves, particularly in gaming, but also in browsing. Any help?
Thanks
Can almost definitely confirm it's just bad hardware at this point.
After running 2 days without problem other than the touch-screen issue noted above, the phone entered an persistent bootloop after I loaded Juice Defender today. Phone would reboot, come up to home screen, get a data connection, tell me how many new email and texts I had, then tell me an app (same every reboot) was not responding and reboot 2-3 seconds after I cleared the error. Even when I managed to get to market before a reboot and uninstall the last 2 apps I'd installed, the phone is still in a boot loop.
Appreciate all that took the time to read, and wanted to share that there's a pretty good reason no one could respond with a solution.
Well, it probably is bad hardware but two cardinal rules I have when working on any Rezound is NEVER restore with Titanium BU & don't use Juice Defender (and I have a paid version of it).
I have had both mess up certain phones & I do this stuff all day at work.
I only noticed the underclocking issue with the ICS roms. But, I believe it is due to the Kernels not supporting under/overclocking and scaling options yet.
AtLemacks said:
I only noticed the underclocking issue with the ICS roms. But, I believe it is due to the Kernels not supporting under/overclocking and scaling options yet.
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I've had the same issue for a while now and nobody answered Me either. After a little research it seems we have bad digitizers. I say this because that was happening to me on gingerbread and I upgraded to ice in part to fix it.
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I've had the same issue for a while now and nobody answered Me either. After a little research it seems we have bad digitizers. I say this because that was happening to me on gingerbread and I upgraded to ice in part to fix it.
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Okay so I have a similar problem.
I have hephappy cm9 prefinal installed just started having problems with rom. screen was acting funny so I turned on the touch point developer tool supplied with the rom. I have found that I have multiple touch points when scrolling with one finger.
So I used a apk called touch recalibrate that I got when I was on mik's cm7.
Which I have recalibrated aprox 7 times with no improvements so I set my cpu to min 600 max 600 smartassv2 this did not help either. If anyone has the answer to this problem please let me know.
Please go easy on me, here. I know how to search forums, I just don't always understand what I read on here. :laugh: My husband has always helped me with most of my Vibrant issues, but he has recently defected to his HTC One S.
My Vibrant is getting unbearably slow. I'd been running a Fishman rom on it, and it seemed very, very slow. We then decided on the Slim Ryder rom. The first day or so it was unbelievably fast. That, unfortunately didn't last.
I have only the minimum apps on there and only one updating widget (BeWeather time and weather. Used to use Beautiful Widgets but it began superimposing the time over itself so I couldn't read the time...).
I'm a realist, and I know that my Vibrant is old. I know it isn't as fast as The Hubs' new HTC. I'm only comparing it to itself. Here's where I've noticed the slow downs:
*when switching portrait/landscape (sometimes tries to show half a landscape screen in portrait mode)
*when touching a text field, it is very slow to bring up the keyboard...sometimes i have to tap multiple times
*when Swyping or using Swiftkey, it sometimes hangs on a letter
*it takes several seconds to bring up my text messages, dialer, call logs...basic phone functions.
*using the browser is unbearable.
I've done the old standard...Master Reset, cleared history, caches, cookies, etc. I have wiped call logs and clear out my texts every other day. I don't store music on my phone (Google Music) and have my photos upload to my Google+ account via wifi so I don't get a lot of that stored up. I do not use a live wallpaper.
I'm not eligible for an upgrade until November. I am absolutely open to trying other ROMs, but as a mama with little people and no landline, having the ability to reach 911 from my phone is non-negotiable. Can anyone offer me any ideas on how to limp through until my upgrade?
Thanks in advance.
My vibrant was pretty slow with 2.1~2.2 using almost any rom;gingerbread was a huge improvement and ice cream sandwich is just blazing fast. I would suggest flashing ICS passion http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1362961 or another rom that supports 911. Right now, the developers are working on porting jelly bean to our phone, and when its stable, go grab it!
2.1 and 2.2 roms I heard are a lil slow so try to use an ics rom like passion chimera or zenwick
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You can check out the kernel bible thread and maybe get a kernel with voodoo lagfix, seems to make my phone faster. I'm running 2.2 Blue Frankenstein ROM, it comes with voodoo lagfix.
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Try a kernel with voodoo lag-fix as iTz KeeFy mentioned and in the meantime disable any animations.
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My Vibrant is getting unbearably slow. I'd been running a Fishman rom on it, and it seemed very, very slow. We then decided on the Slim Ryder rom. The first day or so it was unbelievably fast. That, unfortunately didn't last.
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*when switching portrait/landscape (sometimes tries to show half a landscape screen in portrait mode)
*when touching a text field, it is very slow to bring up the keyboard...sometimes i have to tap multiple times
*when Swyping or using Swiftkey, it sometimes hangs on a letter
*it takes several seconds to bring up my text messages, dialer, call logs...basic phone functions.
*using the browser is unbearable.
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Fellas, if she is using Slim_Ryder, then she is using a kernel that already has Voodoo included, IIRC.
To me, these symptoms sound like you may be getting bogged down on your low-end CPU frequencies. Maybe get something like SetCPU or CPUmaster from the market and up your lowest frequency to the next step. When I am on a 2.2 ROM, I use BaliX1.2 and I have mine overclocked to 1.2ghz but my lowest frequency is 400ghz and not the standard 100-200 that most use. I find that this bogs my system down a bit more than it should. So that is when I decided to test it out and up the lowest in step increments.
You can go to my Battery Guide and in the 3rd post, there is a link to get SetCPU for XDA users for Free. When you use this, you might also want to check the governors as well. Some 2.2 kernels do not play well with On-Demand (BaliX most definitley does not-proven a long time ago). I have mine set to conservative and no profiles set at all. My I/O is Deadline also.
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Fellas, if she is using Slim_Ryder, then she is using a kernel that already has Voodoo included, IIRC.
To me, these symptoms sound like you may be getting bogged down on your low-end CPU frequencies. Maybe get something like SetCPU or CPUmaster from the market and up your lowest frequency to the next step. When I am on a 2.2 ROM, I use BaliX1.2 and I have mine overclocked to 1.2ghz but my lowest frequency is 400ghz and not the standard 100-200 that most use. I find that this bogs my system down a bit more than it should. So that is when I decided to test it out and up the lowest in step increments.
You can go to my Battery Guide and in the 3rd post, there is a link to get SetCPU for XDA users for Free. When you use this, you might also want to check the governors as well. Some 2.2 kernels do not play well with On-Demand (BaliX most definitley does not-proven a long time ago). I have mine set to conservative and no profiles set at all. My I/O is Deadline also.
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Thank you very much. It was the Blue Frankenstein 2.2 ROM I switched from to go with Slim_Ryder. Both have been very laggy.
I will definitely try the steps you've outlined for me, Woodrube. I really appreciate it. I know I'm using a Bali Kernel. It says Bali v1.8.8UV.
I spoke with a second-level tech at Tmo this morning and he said I've done all the troubleshooting steps they could recommend. He said at this point it is a hardware issue.
I will try these steps today and research how I can test my 911 capabilities legally. If if can get over those obstacles, I will definitely try an ICS Rom. I just have to limp through until early November.
Thanks again for the help, guys!
I have searched our Forum for anything on this phone overheating and there is one thread that I came across, but most people did not really have this issue at all. I mean in normal usage doing pretty much nothing my phone holds at 45-50C, given that is with all four cores operating, and if I play a game the cores have reached 70C and up, I am almost certain that is simply too high for this phone to be operating at. Also, even when I use eco mode the phone still idles around 40C and will reach temps as high as 64C. I am just wondering if I am alone or people have actually tested this also and have results similar to mine. I was hoping maybe there might be potential fixes for this or would I need to get a replacement device?
Don't have a great answer for you but I can tell you the phone has some safeguards in place. One that I am aware of is the screen brightness will self-dim until the phone temp drops.
Arlington- as in TX.?
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Don't have a great answer for you but I can tell you the phone has some safeguards in place. One that I am aware of is the screen brightness will self-dim until the phone temp drops.
Arlington- as in TX.?
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Yeah, I live in Arlington, TX. Yeah, I noticed the self-dim feature, but that happens way too much, and too often, I mean I rarely get to use the phone at 100% brightness and no phone should be like that in my opinion. I am just curious if other people are dealing with similar issues, but I am checking eco mode now and my temps on idle are 36C-38C, its when I actually use my phone as a quad core phone, shocking, that it gets waaay hotter. I mean its hot on the back of the phone when I touch there and when I check the temp with an app. I feel I should be able to use my quad core as a quad core when need be, not have it get so hot its unbearable to hold, plus I don't want to do any damage with it reaching 70C temps.
Me, too in Arlington.
I would definitely say based on that it would be a good idea to exchange it, those temps are a bit much.
All og's get hot like that when playing games, etc. It is just how it is designed - like it or not / love it or leave it, lol.
I would have preferred they make the phone a little thicker with more heat sink so it could run full speed all the time when needed.
But they didn't. So, oh well. Maybe my next phone will fix that someday.
Jason
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Me, too in Arlington.
I would definitely say based on that it would be a good idea to exchange it, those temps are a bit much.
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Darn, I was hoping for something else, ha. Oh well, guess I will be dealing with that then, meh.. By any chance could you tell me your temps you are getting? So, I know what is normal for the device?
With 5 mins. light use (wi-fi, web, phone call, 2 texts, no gameplay) 25.4 C
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If you are using a phone for AT&T network on T-mo, it is possible that is adding to the temp prob, not an expert here just an educated guess that the more it tries to find network signal the warmer it may get.
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With 5 mins. light use (wi-fi, web, phone call, 2 texts, no gameplay) 25.4 C
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If you are using a phone for AT&T network on T-mo, it is possible that is adding to the temp prob, not an expert here just an educated guess that the more it tries to find network signal the warmer it may get.
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Yes, but this happen on wifi only with data and no sim card installed, I am waiting to get an at&t sim card, lol. Shouldn't have done it online, but it cost 99 cents, instead of $15 bucks in the store.
Good call... hope it helps !!
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Good call... hope it helps !!
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Well, the strange thing is that I reverted back to stock everything, no root, or unlocked boot loader, and my overheating issue has been solved.. Weird. I only get around 35C even doing a benchmark with all four cores running at the same time. I think the Base rom and kernels still have some bugs that need to be worked out. I idle at 22C now, woot!
Glad to hear that!! Nice work.
am using the new build from Team Nocturnal with no probs. You might want to read through the thread first as some are having issues.... point is, no overheating and battery life seems good so far.
One thing I learned by testing, even going to the extent of exchanging my phone 2 days ago - if you charge your phone while it is off and unplug the charger it will drain the battery because it does not shut down the charge animation. The workaround is to simply turn the phone on and let it boot, either leave it on or then it is ok to turn off.
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Glad to hear that!! Nice work.
am using the new build from Team Nocturnal with no probs. You might want to read through the thread first as some are having issues.... point is, no overheating and battery life seems good so far.
One thing I learned by testing, even going to the extent of exchanging my phone 2 days ago - if you charge your phone while it is off and unplug the charger it will drain the battery because it does not shut down the charge animation. The workaround is to simply turn the phone on and let it boot, either leave it on or then it is ok to turn off.
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Oh wow, I did not even know that was an issue, ha, well, thanks for the heads up on that and I think I have to send my phone off to LG sadly, according to AT&T, but when I get it back I will be looking into their new base rom, I did skim the thread a little, and I am glad to hear there is no overheating. I am not sure if it was a kernel issue or the base rom itself, which is puzzling.
You may have selected Sk8's kernel during The Base's installation. I can't speak for it myself, but it's different than the stock kernel and may have been causing the problem?
Speculation at best.
No worries, Its what I am doing right now, just speculating, I mean I actually selected both kernels in the base rom, and tested them out. I was trying to figure out what the issue was. I think it might not have left me do a clean install, as I did select Sk8's Kernel first. So, I am thinking that the kernel stuck, even when I did a full wipe, before reinstalling and using the other kernel. I also was getting Kernel crashes, and it kept showing up a kernel crash screen, and asked me to go into download mode to store the dump file on my computer. I am new to android/Linux things, I am far more familiar with Windows based things, but android is the freedom OS of mobile devices. I like the customizations and things you can do with it, lol. Its sweet, and I am learning everyday, so that I can possible become a Dev later on. I have ported some things before and I know other forms of coding, just not the required programming languages for Linux.
My guess would be Sk8's kernel as well, I know it has the gpu overclocked, so if you are running graphics intensive apps it doesn't surprise me that you can be getting overheating issues.
Maybe try the bootloader unlock again to reinstall the freegee kernel...
Just a suggestion.
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My guess would be Sk8's kernel as well, I know it has the gpu overclocked, so if you are running graphics intensive apps it doesn't surprise me that you can be getting overheating issues.
Maybe try the bootloader unlock again to reinstall the freegee kernel...
Just a suggestion.
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v1:
- initial release
v2:
- added GPU OC and UV settings
v2.1
- revert GPU settings until i get them more stable
- add voltage control via sysfs (use system tuner to select your custom UV settings)
- fix the black screen issue for alot of users
v2.2
- fast_charge on usb (icon will still show as slow charge but it will actually charge faster)
- cpu tweak to enable use of all freqs in high stress times like games and benchmarks
^ That is the change log for Sk8's Kernel, the gpu isn't overclocked anymore, it was in the initial release. So, I know its not that, and as I stated in a previous post I tried both of them, but even when I wiped everything, I think that Sk8's kernel was sticking. The reason I say this is even after a fresh install and selecting Freegee Kernel during installation, when the rom booted back up it would show Sk8's Kernel, and I would get Kernel crashes, which would also lead to a Crash screen, asking me to go into download mode to save the dump file. Though even after messing with that and monitoring it for several days, its hard to tell what it was, but I do know I am not having the issues anymore when I brought everything back to stock, I can assume it was one of the kernels, a combination, the base rom, but I am not 100% sure.
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^ That is the change log for Sk8's Kernel, the gpu isn't overclocked anymore, it was in the initial release. So, I know its not that, and as I stated in a previous post I tried both of them, but even when I wiped everything, I think that Sk8's kernel was sticking. The reason I say this is even after a fresh install and selecting Freegee Kernel during installation, when the rom booted back up it would show Sk8's Kernel, and I would get Kernel crashes, which would also lead to a Crash screen, asking me to go into download mode to save the dump file. Though even after messing with that and monitoring it for several days, its hard to tell what it was, but I do know I am not having the issues anymore when I brought everything back to stock, I can assume it was one of the kernels, a combination, the base rom, but I am not 100% sure.
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Shows what I know, lol.
I was going by what I read for the Base ROM Aroma installer description, maybe the Base is still using an old version, but if you installed it on your own, then you should have been the latest.
Sorry, lol.