Why odin and not ClokcworkMod? - Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys,what's up?Hope y'all enjoying the phone(You sure are )!
I have some questions though as all my smartphones until now have been HTC and,wanting to buy a Samsung,I have noticed some differences regarding development/modding,for which questions aren't clearly answered.
First and foremost is,why with Sammy's phones we have to use Odin?ClockworkMod on HTC devices is excellent and very easy to use.What's the reason to use Odin?Samsung packaging their roms differently or something or a security thing?
Second is,why do I keep seeing many bricked Samsung phones?I have read about many people who,as they say themselves,were foolish enough to brick it.Is it that easy?With HTC's phones it's only possible when messing with bootloader if something goes horribly wrong,or when someone is foolish enough to pull the battery when updating baseband(or radio,call it whatever you want).
If someone can answer or point me to somewhere where I can find satisfactory answers I would appreciate it!Thanks!
Regards,
Apostolis
PS:Sorry for my English.Not that there's anything wrong with it in general,but I tend to speak in a very weird and complicated way when I am tired.And now,I am really tired!

NO CLOCKWORK for SGS 2 yet .
Donate SGS2 to developer .
jje

Where did you read sgs2 were getting bricked? The term was used to loosely with the orginal galaxy s phones. The original sgs was 99.9% unbrickable and I wouldnt doubt the sgs2 is the same.
Clockwork will come with time. Odin is just samsung way of upgrading there handsets. Once real custom roms come youll probably see clockwork.
Most of the so called bricks were pure user error.

intruda119 said:
Where did you read sgs2 were getting bricked? The term was used to loosely with the orginal galaxy s phones. The original sgs was 99.9% unbrickable and I wouldnt doubt the sgs2 is the same.
Clockwork will come with time. Odin is just samsung way of upgrading there handsets. Once real custom roms come youll probably see clockwork.
Most of the so called bricks were pure user error.
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Well,I'd say all bricks are pure user error!
I can't give you exact time and post,but there were some reports.Not that the amount of people reporting this was anything shocking,but anyway.One particular guy wanted to unbrick his Vibrant with JTAG.Maybe Galaxy S variants are more "vulnerable"?
Also,about CWM I didn't know.I thought that Odin was still being used on the original Galaxy S.I only followed the GS forums at the beggining.

Odin is just a great tool to update firmware or get you out of bad situations. Theres mixed reviews about odin but its something you need to get familiar with if your hacking with any galaxy s line. Most bricks that wasnt recoverable needed jtag but that was when someone flashed something they shouldnt have. If you want to start with stock firmware you want to use odin. Alot of people like clearing out the ghost files left with custom roms. So they start fresh with odin original firmware before flashing new roms. You dont have to but you can usually avoid some bugs with a fresh firmware. Im not an expert at this but hopefully helps out some.
tolis626 said:
Well,I'd say all bricks are pure user error!
I can't give you exact time and post,but there were some reports.Not that the amount of people reporting this was anything shocking,but anyway.One particular guy wanted to unbrick his Vibrant with JTAG.Maybe Galaxy S variants are more "vulnerable"?
Also,about CWM I didn't know.I thought that Odin was still being used on the original Galaxy S.I only followed the GS forums at the beggining.
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intruda119 said:
Odin is just a great tool to update firmware or get you out of bad situations. Theres mixed reviews about odin but its something you need to get familiar with if your hacking with any galaxy s line. Most bricks that wasnt recoverable needed jtag but that was when someone flashed something they shouldnt have. If you want to start with stock firmware you want to use odin. Alot of people like clearing out the ghost files left with custom roms. So they start fresh with odin original firmware before flashing new roms. You dont have to but you can usually avoid some bugs with a fresh firmware. Im not an expert at this but hopefully helps out some.
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Ahaa...So it's not THAT different to modding HTC devices,is it?

tolis626 said:
Ahaa...So it's not THAT different to modding HTC devices,is it?
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If there's a CWM-featured Kernel, then yes!

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[Q] Noob - Where to Start

Hiya guys,
I have a Samsung Galaxy S2 that I got this week. Im finding the phone is brilliant to use at the moment and works very well. It's alot better for me to use this device that it was when I had my previous phone which was an iPhone (don't shoot me)...
Anyway here we are. I've had the phone 4 days and i'm wanting to root it. The main reason for this is that I hate bloatwear. Samsung have filled it with all their own specific software that they find useful and I don't want that. All I want is a lovely OS with no Samsung to worry about etc.
Right a little about what i'm wanting. Ok so the phone is a Samsung Galaxy S2 GT-I9100. The andoid version is 2.3.4, the Baseband is I9100XXKI1 and the Build is GINGERBREAD.
Im basically wanting to install the exact same version of Gingerbread but without all the bloatwear. Is this possible? Im completely new to this so any guides and tutorials that you can point me to would be brilliant. Is there anything I should be wary of when rooting my phone etc.
I have been looking around on the net and from what I can see Cyanogen M7 seems to be the same version as what im on now other than you don't get the touchwiz.
Any help would be brilliant on where to start.
If there are any questions then please ask.
Regards,
Just freeze the bloat yourself, rather than trying to find a ROM with it removed.
Root via zergRush, freeze bloat with one of the apps on the market.
However, if you do go down the CM7 route, just follow the instructions on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1176411
Other things to look out for. If any instructions are telling you to make a nandroid backup, do it, and back up your efs folder. You can use Hellcat's kTool for that.
Ok thanks for your post. So i guess my next question is What is Rooting and what does it actually do to your phone?
Do I need to root my phone in order to install new Roms??
Also the link to the M7 *Nightly* release you gave me. Is that stable? I read on their forums that I should only look at installing their *Stable* release and be wary of their *Nightly* release as its still buggy.
Since your first post said you were wanting to root, I kinda thought you'd know why. Bad assumption on my part, I know.
Anyway, before you flood the place with more questions, have a read for a while.
FAQS/Guide/Additional Info For Rooting S2 - High level summary
[FAQ] GT-i9100 Galaxy S II FAQ thread
Also, there is no so called "stable" CM7 build for the Samsung Galaxy S II.
Hi again.
Ok so I've had a read through the links provided to me and Im positive i want to root my device so that i can install new roms and unlock the phone and such. So next then can someone suggest what method i should do next. could someone also tell me what cf-root and clockworkmod is? Im confused as to what these are.
Regards
CF will give you root and clockwork, you can then reboot into clockwork and flash roms. Just make sure you read everything thoroughly and be sure to avoid the repartition option in odin.
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Thanks but could you explain to me what they both do? Im assuming that its better to use cf-root as it allows you to install roms also...
Love spoon feeding eh?
http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=cf-root
http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=clockworkmod+recovery
Please search before open a new thread. All the info you need is there to be found. Start you hunt.
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I have a few question. Im a noob :))

I've just gotten my Galaxy s II 3 days ago. Its on stock firmware 2.3.3 but I want to upgrade it to 2.3.5 but it's not yet available in my country.
The question is, i've googled alot of guides but all of them are somehow different. In one, you need to tick repartition, while others you dont need to tick. Which one should I choose?
Please guide me through this, I've seen also the guide here but Im not very familiar with the terms and still very much confused.
I just got this phone and I dont want to brick it )
This thread has all you need to know: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
mudferret said:
This thread has all you need to know: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
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Im still confused. He says in this thread "All packages below this point have the old bootloader so you can safely reset the binary counter with a Jig.
If you've already flashed a full package from elsewhere or updated using KIES and cannot reset your binary counter using the Jig just flash this package in the PDA or Bootloader section of Odin to replace the bootloaders and then you can reset the counter: http://www.multiupload.com/LQQBRQVJUD
Here are the new bootloader tarball if you want to flash them back after resetting your binary counter: http://www.multiupload.com/5LNOCL7KPV"
The firmware I'll be downloading is below that point and will my warranty void? Im not gonna root it. im just gonna upgrade the firmware.
Another question, my country is not present in the firmware lists. Can I download from another country instead? If so, why did he list them as different countries?
ALL the firmwares he now uploads have the old bootloader, so you don't have to worry about that part of it. The jig just resets the binary flash counter, a.k.a. unofficial flash counter, this will come into play if you decide to root in the future. Starting with 2.3.5 firmwares the counter could no longer be reset with the jig (micro USB resistor).
The countries are the location for which the firmware was released. Assuming you have the international version of the SGSII you'll be fine with any of them; but of course you likely want the latest and "best" firmware. You're not limited to installing a firmware for your country. Research in Q&A to see what the latest firmware release is, and what people think of it. I haven't run a Samsung firmware in a while, so I'm no help there. 2.3.6 is out, some versions are better than others from the minimal reading I've done about 2.3.6
Samsung could theoretically tell you to pound sand if you needed warranty service, although you have an official firmware it's potentially not official for your area. I'm not sure what the likelihood of this is since I like voiding warranties on all my possessions, and don't try to get warranty service after I've done so.
This isn't the whole story, but should get you started.
Im so confused. There are 2 download links on the firmware on intratech's guide. Which of them should I choose?
very simple
shakra00 said:
Im so confused. There are 2 download links on the firmware on intratech's guide. Which of them should I choose?
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My 2 cents
Type *#1234#
It gives you PDA , phone and CSC details , the PDA details is what uve to look for. Mostly you can find your region in the PDA details unless your phone is locked with a carrier. I think Intratech's guide on that is pretty clear , ul need that firmware only if you want to remove the yellow triangle after root. I dont think it'll be able to update your firmware version , may be am wrong , there are guys here who know stuff much better.
Guys, Is there a chance of bricking my phone when flashing a firmware goes wrong?
shakra00 said:
Guys, Is there a chance of bricking my phone when flashing a firmware goes wrong?
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Yes
Bricking phone 1% chance not being able to recover a bricked phone 1% chance
Flashing without reading following instructions etc 70% chance .
jje
Is there a way to unbrick the phone?
honestly , yes
shakra00 said:
Guys, Is there a chance of bricking my phone when flashing a firmware goes wrong?
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You might end up with a brick slab if you choose the wrong PDA or skip steps , If upgrading and rooting your phone is the priority, here is the idea,
Root the phone first with Chainfire's kernel, his post by itself is fool proof
READ the dev forums to see if you can find a ROM which is close to stock and which is upgraded to 2.3.6.
Thats exactly what I did. I tried Wicked ROM for starters as it was pretty close to stock. Now once you do that you'll get enough courage to do the rest of the stuff.
People said you can choose any firmware as long as your phone is the international version
same chance as that of a bricking the phone
shakra00 said:
Is there a way to unbrick the phone?
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If this is your first android device , I suggest you to read a lot , because for a newbie upgrading or rooting will not be of much use.
The true purpose of upgrading and/or rooting comes into picture when u know what you want to do with your device , if you feel Chainfire's post is a little difficult to understand but still want root , try Superoneclick or DoomLord's tool
Is the KK2 firmware a good to update to?
KK5 probably better .
jje
How will I know if it's compatible with my phone?
shakra00 said:
How will I know if it's compatible with my phone?
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If you have the International version, any of the firmwares in that thread I linked you to will work.
Edit: sounds like you're unsure if you have the International version. Model = GT-I9100 (rare cases there's a letter after this which still equals International, other cases letter = NOT international).
Go to Settings>About Phone and look at your phone model # and firmware version and report back.
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HI
anyone was a noob once including myself. my wife got galaxy s2 in octomber. first thing i recomand to you is to read galaxy threads here at xda. that's how i begun. first noob now flashaholic. if u go down this road you will become like many of us maybe. which is not bad at all. so lets resume for a noob:
1. read xda threads
2. install drivers on pc for galaxy s2- with kies
3. use intratech - xwkk5 original firmware. it's just one file about 600mb. use odin and put this file on pda. no repartition. don't worry about bootloader.
4. put the phone in download mode- connect the cable to pc and make sure u see that odin shows the phone.
5. hit start... with no fear.. wait 3-5 minutes and the phone will reboot.
6. don't panic - it will take about 1-2minute for the phone to reboot.
7. thats all- look in setting - about phone- new firmware
then its about rooting, removing bloatware, deodexed, new mods- phone recording, new themes, ics content, browsing everyday xda forum...
good luck.
p.s. - don't be afraid about bricking your phone. look for riff-jtag in your town. for 30$ your phone will live another day
ive been reading around and have seen you post a lot...if you are afraid to flash yourself then i suggest you wait for the update from kies...people here have been extraordinarily helpful and yet you still ask too many questions as if a lot owe you one...as said before READ READ and READ...if you are unsure then dont even bother much more if you are not even too interested following instructions because you want to ask more that learn yourself...im a bit irritated because we have already answered your questions in other threads with a more detailed answer and still you go your own way...this site is a group help site...if you prefer your way then i suggest you read a lot and watch youtube tutorials...my 2 cents to you

[Q] no software on the phone SGS2

i try to change soft in phone and it was ok after 3 mounth mobile start get crazy.
so i try to put original soft back but cant find it.
I read all about my Galaxy s2 all about software i find what i need its the software nr:
I9100XWKE7/I9100XEUKD1/I9100XXKE4/I9100XWKE7
But i cand find place to download it
its S2 on tmobile uk
I try find it alone before post that here. i have no power to look for it if you dont help me i will put my mobile in the bin
PLEASE HELP
I'm on t mobile UK and cm9 in my opinion works the best. With the orange baseband
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TomCom2011 said:
i ask for help if you dont have anythink smart to say, .... off ok?
it is good place to ask its general forum. i use search thats how i gat all information.
I am new at forum and i was sure its good place to het help
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You may have mistaken this site for Samsung Support. It isn't.
Folks on here help out of a sense of community, they don't get paid for it.
The person you just told to feck off is very knowledgeable and answers a heck of a lot of questions nearly every day.
I am on the same T-Mobile UK network as you and have downloaded from here the very ROM you are looking for, although that has been updated since them. I could easily do the same search on here and point you the link, but would you know what to do with the file? Or have you already fully read the Odin flashing instructions on here?
My first time here was with the HTC Compact III, I read for at least a week all the stickies at the top of each section. When I was sure I wanted to flash a rom, I read and re-read the thread and was as well prepared as I could be.
I am deeply indebted to all those developers and the more knowledgeable on here, who turn my phone into something very special. The least I can do is search before I ask, because nearly every question has already been asked.
i know what to do
fred_up said:
You may have mistaken this site for Samsung Support. It isn't.
Folks on here help out of a sense of community, they don't get paid for it.
The person you just told to feck off is very knowledgeable and answers a heck of a lot of questions nearly every day.
I am on the same T-Mobile UK network as you and have downloaded from here the very ROM you are looking for, although that has been updated since them. I could easily do the same search on here and point you the link, but would you know what to do with the file? Or have you already fully read the Odin flashing instructions on here?
My first time here was with the HTC Compact III, I read for at least a week all the stickies at the top of each section. When I was sure I wanted to flash a rom, I read and re-read the thread and was as well prepared as I could be.
I am deeply indebted to all those developers and the more knowledgeable on here, who turn my phone into something very special. The least I can do is search before I ask, because nearly every question has already been asked.
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If you get me download link i will know what to do with it.
TomCom2011 said:
If you get me download link i will know what to do with it.
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Here is a big clue:
Samsung Galaxy S II I9100 > Galaxy S II Original Android Development[ROMS] > Official i9100 carrier branded firmware download for Odin Flash
fred_up said:
Here is a big clue:
Samsung Galaxy S II I9100 > Galaxy S II Original Android Development[ROMS] > Official i9100 carrier branded firmware download for Odin Flash
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is it "I9100XWKE7/I9100XEUKD1/I9100XXKE4/I9100XWKE7"
i read on this forum that is the best one
I ask this one couse i dont know what is diferent between
BOKE3 Stock Kernel and BOKG2 Stock Kernel
i was looking for "I9100XWKE7/I9100XEUKD1/I9100XXKE4/I9100XWKE7"
you dont have to make me feel stupid
TomCom2011 said:
is it "I9100XWKE7/I9100XEUKD1/I9100XXKE4/I9100XWKE7"
i read on this forum that is the best one
I ask this one couse i dont know what is diferent between
BOKE3 Stock Kernel and BOKG2 Stock Kernel
i was looking for "I9100XWKE7/I9100XEUKD1/I9100XXKE4/I9100XWKE7"
you dont have to make me feel stupid
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The BOKE3 was the origonal firmware for the T-Mobile UK SGSII.
BOKF3, BOKG2 and BOKK1 are revised firmwares.
The stock kernels are there if you have rooted your phone with a CF-Root kernel and then reflash with the stock kernel to get rid of the warning triangle at bootup.
The one you are looking for is not a T-Mobile UK ROM, but rather a Samsung Stock ROM for Europe. Flashing that would invalidate the phone's warranty (if you had to take it back to service). That said, that ROM is really old. For newer versions of Samsung stock ROM then look * HERE *
you are good
fred_up said:
The BOKE3 was the origonal firmware for the T-Mobile UK SGSII.
BOKF3, BOKG2 and BOKK1 are revised firmwares.
The stock kernels are there if you have rooted your phone with a CF-Root kernel and then reflash with the stock kernel to get rid of the warning triangle at bootup.
The one you are looking for is not a T-Mobile UK ROM, but rather a Samsung Stock ROM for Europe. Flashing that would invalidate the phone's warranty (if you had to take it back to service). That said, that ROM is really old. For newer versions of Samsung stock ROM then look * HERE *
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I see you are good. Can i ask you what do you think? which soft is the best ?
i think i start from wrong way. i just want my phone work and no freez. i download some soft just now but will download another one after you advice me
The old links don work try getting frm samfirmware.com
rocky23 said:
The old links don work try getting frm samfirmware.com
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"THANKS" i will go to samfirmware.com

Vodafone UK S3, rooting and custom rom install

First post, hopefully someone will be able to answer some questions I've got.
I've previously had an HTC Desire and held off rooting it as I didn't feel I needed it. Towards the end of my contract I found I was running out of space but still held off rooting it incase I messed it up and rendered it bricked.
I've got a S3 16gb coming on Tuesday from UK Network Vodafone.
I've done a fair bit of researching in the last few days on this forum but just want a few things cleared up.
I'm aware I have to make sure I root using a guide for my version of phone. How would I find that out exactly? Is it going to be a network specific version or will 'International' cover it?
Once rooted I'm going to put Omega Mod on as it seems to be the one to go for. Will I still be able able to use all the features of the phone as standard (I'm thinking more along the lines of the play store and other things that require a sign in)
If I ever get bored of it or want an 'unrooted' phone again (if I were to sell it, or claim on warrenty for example), would I be able to flash back to my standard rom?
What are the main benefits/disadvantages to rooting and installing this particular rom?
Is there anything that will no longer work after rooting/flashing Omega?
Finally, is there ANYTHING else I need to take into consideration before beginning?
Thanks alot
Here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671969
[Guide+ROMS]Odin Flash+Root Guide & Stock Firmwares LE4/6/8/9/F/D, LF1/2
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I will try and answer all your questions in the order you posted them.
1. Your device will be an international model so this guide will work and all the info you need to root and unroot is there http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1695238
2. I am presuming here you mean Omega ROM and not Omega Aosp, if so Omega ROM is a stock Samsung ROM so all features that work on stock will work on omega. To find out the differences between different types of ROMs I suggest going to this thread and looking at the different ROM descriptions under different settings.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1674286
3.See the link in point 1. I smashed the screen of my first S3 and had to claim on insurance and this worked for me
4. This is a question that I cannot really answer as I feel it is specific to each person, however their are plenty of threads on XDA that answer this just use google or the seach bar.
5.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1663656 It looks stable and there are no bug reports in the OP (original post) so yes everything should be working but just in case before you flash any ROM always make a nandroid backup in recovery. (if unsure on nandroid backups seach XDA and google)
I think that answers all your questions but the best advice I can give you is to read and re-read every thing you can find on rooting and such. Like you I also had a desire before my S3 and before I rooted that I spent atleast a week reading around on various different forums about what to do. You need to be confident in what you are doing before you do it and know what is going on.
That way if something goes wrong you can provide as much info as possible and and get more help!
Hope this helped

[Q] Requesting infos on i9300 for future hacking!!

Hi to everyone!
I am new here but I have been on the i9000 forums for the last year and more.
My actual i9000 is quite hacked and I am going to get a i9300 with my phone provider next week.
I would like to understand just a few things to know if I'll be in some quite similar situation of hacking or if the i9300 is in some how different from i9000.
My questions are:
What are the differences between the two forums Galaxy S III Android Development and Galaxy S III Original Android Development ???
How do I go into Download and Recovery mode?
About ROOTING the i9300... Is there some website or Windows app and does that or must I flash something like a new kernel or what?
Is there a way to get some sound improvement for better sound and more volume as it was for i9000 with the Voodoo hack?
Is it possible to flash only a new kernel that gives root privileges, sound improvements and some other cool things? I ask this because I really don't know if I'll go for a complete ROM flashbecause I am a little bit tired in complete hackings
As the phone not bought by my self but related to a phone contract I need to be able to revert back to stock rom/kernel if the phone needs to go back to shop for something, so please tell me where to get stock firmwares and if I need some particular Windows app or know some particular procedure on how to flash.
I hope to have answers from you becuase I really need to understand what is having a i9300 not hacked alot coming from a i9000 that was really hack alot.
PIRATA! said:
Hi to everyone!
I am new here but I have been on the i9000 forums for the last year and more.
My actual i9000 is quite hacked and I am going to get a i9300 with my phone provider next week.
I would like to understand just a few things to know if I'll be in some quite similar situation of hacking or if the i9300 is in some how different from i9000.
My questions are:
It is all here .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1927113
jje
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Thank you very much. I'll look in there and come back here if I'll not find something

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