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Hello, I just got a Thunderbolt through my work and I noticed the screen tends to wash out at angles. I had this same problem with my T-Mobile HTC Glacier or MT4G. It turned out to be 2 different vendors Sharp and Sony displays being used in this model. Once I got the good display it was a noticeable difference in the quality of the better display vs the bad one. Direct viewing from straight on is ok just as it was on the HTC Glacier. So I just wonder if anyone might have a good one and could post some pics to show.
Here is my original thread for the HTC Glacier with the Screen issues. There are some pictures and videos to compare the differences. I'm seeing some washing out at angles, especially around the clock digits where this problem is easily seen.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863679
Here are some pictures of mine with the Sharp screen. The noticeable areas are the clock widget black areas where they flip.
I'd say it's possible. I'm sure they have more than one place that manufactures the devices. There's been some variability in the build quality of the devices, so it's not too far fetched.
I don't have a camera other than my phone to take pictures, though. It looks like a really good display to me and doesn't "wash out"
You're right there are two displays. I went to the store last week to compare my phone with the display. Because I used to have the mytouch 4g and it took three tries to get one with a nice display. So I was surprise, when I saw the display model and colors were not as vibrant as mine. Man did I get Lucky, first try and it's a winner.
This is interesting. I ran a "dmesg |grep panel" and it returned sharp. I wonder if anyone would get Sony.
Mine is noticeably worse than my MT4G that had the good screen.
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If you ask me, there is no doubt that there are two panels for this device. My first TBolt (which had several problems) had a really bad screen and I complained about it in another thread like this one. I had it exchanged and the new one is VERY much better. The first one was not crisp, colors were bad, looked blown out next to my DInc OLED. The replacement is crisp and the colors are beautiful.
I didn't get a chance to compare side-by-side, but everyone who had seen my first one, even my wife who is pretty oblivious about these things, would say that the new one is dramatically better.
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If you ask me, there is no doubt that there are two panels for this device. My first TBolt (which had several problems) had a really bad screen and I complained about it in another thread like this one. I had it exchanged and the new one is VERY much better. The first one was not crisp, colors were bad, looked blown out next to my DInc OLED. The replacement is crisp and the colors are beautiful.
I didn't get a chance to compare side-by-side, but everyone who had seen my first one, even my wife who is pretty oblivious about these things, would say that the new one is dramatically better.
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Thanks, could some of you with good screens do a dmesg in terminal and report if you have a sharp or Sony panel. Make sure you restart then immediately run the terminal and dmesg command. Mine is a sharp so I'm thinking it is the bad display. Also if you can post some pictures of the screen from the side at extreme angles.
I will try to take some pictures of mine and post them tomorrow.
Before some of you start stating your opinions about looking at the screen at angles, yes there are situations where you are viewing at angles. Also it has been proven at least in the MT4G with the bad sharp display that the colors are not as vivid as with the sony screen even when looking straight on.
Mine is made in Taiwan. If you have a good one post where it was made please.
Mine returned Sharp.. and the screen is much better than my OG droid and my wife's fasicnate. I can read this post at ~160ish degrees, sooo.. no idea
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dr_drache said:
Mine returned Sharp.. and the screen is much better than my OG droid and my wife's fasicnate. I can read this post at ~160ish degrees, sooo.. no idea
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Reading this board may not be enough to tell. I will be interested to see if anyone has a Sony screen to compare.
The point is, everything I do on this phone can be done at that angle, in relation to using the screen. Colors do not change, only the brightness, as to be expected from a gloss screen (and gloss screen protector).
I personally think that shows a quality screen.
Definitely not something to worry about.
FYI : I have my dpi set to 200 if that matters
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Here are some more pictures which stand out more with green colors. You can really tell the difference as you tilt to angles and the deep green contrast is lost and it is hard to define the icons. The middle picture is taken from straight on and you can see the difference. I think on the Good Sony displays there will be no difference when looking from angles. I really suspect that the same display problems are following from HTC and the MT4G.
Is there any way to tell my looking at the hardware number what screen we have?
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Is there any way to tell my looking at the hardware number what screen we have?
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No I doubt it, we could never tell with the MT4G. The only one thing that seemed to hold true in the beginning was the ones made in China had a higher percentage of the good screens and more of the ones made in Taiwan had the more of the bad ones.
i have a sharp panel as well. i'm no connoisseur apparently because i think my screen looks just as good as my old incredible.
I have one made in taiwan and it is essentially flawless, only thing wrong with it is 2 very tiny dots of light leak which can only be seen in pitch black
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No I doubt it, we could never tell with the MT4G. The only one thing that seemed to hold true in the beginning was the ones made in China had a higher percentage of the good screens and more of the ones made in Taiwan had the more of the bad ones.
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Odd, mine is made in Taiwan, are all bolts produced there now?
dmesg says sharp panel, but I have no complaints about viewing angle or contrast after quite a bit of fiddling with it and trying to find something to whine about.
I have a sharp panel and it's better than the display model at my local store. I used to own a mytouch 4g, it took three tries to get a good display. And the good display was made in china. My TB is made in Taiwan.
This would explain why some claim to have gorilla glass style display that can't be scratched and others are getting scratches from car keys.
My first phone the digitizer went out after a drop out of the car (no glass broken or cosmetic issues just said touch panel- fail) and the second phone has light leakage not just at the bottom but at the corners too. There is a gap at the right corner for whatever to get into my phone.
I want to know if there is a different 'nicer' panel. It seems quite a few people are popping up with broken digitizers...
The phone I have is a Sharp lq043y1dx04
How do I know? Because I busted mine open to try and fix my broken digitizer. You can see pics and read the story in my post "Anyone want to see the inside of a thunderbolt?"
Still no replacements out there :-(
Digitizer or LCD
I have not taken this phone apart. But I did replace the digitizer on the HTC INC. The Digitizer is separate from the LCD in that phone. Does anyone know if the Digitizer is separate in the Thunderbolt? If so, it does not matter who the manufacturer of the LCD is.
I to agree with this thread that the digitizer on the Thunderrbolt is very easily scratched especially compared to the HTC INC.
I was in the o2 shop today playing about with the Galaxy S2 and I noticed that if I angled the screen slightly, everything would get a blue tint to it. This was most noticeable when there is a lot on white on the screen.
Is this a common problem with the new handset, as I remember reading a similar thing with the older super amoled panels?
I loved the phone, but was put off by the blue tint.
Thanks.
I've actually noticed this myself with a phone I bought from phones4u (avoid them at all costs). It's very odd I thought for SAMOLED since I thought they're not meant to have viewing angle issues like LCD and my old, original Galaxy S certainly doesn't have this issue. Also noticed slightly yellow whites. I got another SGSII from o2 (with bad GPS issues) that had a better screen but I must say - the evenness was a bit off and that was a big surprise given the SGSII is meant to have SAMOLED+ which is technically "better".
I'm beginning to think a bad first batch - i.e. rushed manufacturing.
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I've actually noticed this myself with a phone I bought from phones4u (avoid them at all costs). It's very odd I thought for SAMOLED since I thought they're not meant to have viewing angle issues like LCD and my old, original Galaxy S certainly doesn't have this issue. Also noticed slightly yellow whites. I got another SGSII from o2 (with bad GPS issues) that had a better screen but I must say - the evenness was a bit off and that was a big surprise given the SGSII is meant to have SAMOLED+ which is technically "better".
I'm beginning to think a bad first batch - i.e. rushed manufacturing.
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Even though its supposed to have good viewing angles, its not supposed to be extreme like the iphone 4, there still will be a point with samoled that you will start to see a little distortion.. The blue tinge is on the first galaxy phones too, its something that is inherent with samoleds... You want to worry when you have the screen on full brightness and you see any yellow... But you will see the whites go a bit yellow when the brightness is low. samoleds have their own DNA and everyone is made differently. I do not think this batch was rushed at all, i actually think this is a better first batch than the first Nexus S batch, there was returns flying back from everywhere. I had 4 different NS myself..
I have also gone through 3 SGS2's but rightly so, two had a low hepatic feedback and press area on the back button and one had the piss yellow screen of death
But it worked out better for me because I returned the P4U one for 530 and bought an O2 one for 399. So faulty phones really do save you money;P
JD
Very strange. I have ordered one from o2 online to be delivered in 30 days time as I have already got a contract with Orange that doesn't run out for 2 months and I wanted to take up the discounted line rental offer thats running at mo.
Hopefully most of the problems will be sorted by the time I get mine
P.S. I wouldn't use Phones4U either. Heard quite a few horror stories about them.
Anyone else noticed a blue or yellow tint ?
Thanks
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Even though its supposed to have good viewing angles, its not supposed to be extreme like the iphone 4, there still will be a point with samoled that you will start to see a little distortion.. The blue tinge is on the first galaxy phones too, its something that is inherent with samoleds... You want to worry when you have the screen on full brightness and you see any yellow... But you will see the whites go a bit yellow when the brightness is low. samoleds have their own DNA and everyone is made differently. I do not think this batch was rushed at all, i actually think this is a better first batch than the first Nexus S batch, there was returns flying back from everywhere. I had 4 different NS myself..
I have also gone through 3 SGS2's but rightly so, two had a low hepatic feedback and press area on the back button and one had the piss yellow screen of death
But it worked out better for me because I returned the P4U one for 530 and bought an O2 one for 399. So faulty phones really do save you money;P
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The one I played with today had quite severe blue tint with minimal movement of the handset.
Have yet to see what the yellow tint is like.
I'm sure I read in a review that Samsung have put in an option to change the colour balance on the Galaxy S2 ?
I hadn't noticed this until you stated it in this thread, and to be honest I can only see it when there's a white background. Personally, I don't think there are issues that detract from the user experience, and that's all that matters!
The Samsung Galaxy S II is still by far the best phone in the market right now.
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The one I played with today had quite severe blue tint with minimal movement of the handset.
Have yet to see what the yellow tint is like.
I'm sure I read in a review that Samsung have put in an option to change the colour balance on the Galaxy S2 ?
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Yes they have,
There is 3 presets,
One is like a nexus s pre 2.3.3 colour, and one is a post nexus 2.3.3 and one is somewhere in the middle But what your seeing is something not linked to the colour balance, your seeing what is a screen defect. But a blue hue is quite normal and not so off putting as a piss yellow hue The blue hue was desirable on the galaxy S. The iPhone 4 will have better white replication than the samoleds due to that its a LCD screen, But the blacks will always be better on the samoled
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unnddd said:
I hadn't noticed this until you stated it in this thread, and to be honest I can only see it when there's a white background. Personally, I don't think there are issues that detract from the user experience, and that's all that matters!
The Samsung Galaxy S II is still by far the best phone in the market right now.
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Once you see it, it will eat you up, hahahaha.
Yeah without a doubt the SGS2 rules the waves
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Check my topic " different screens??? or what is this???" here in de Q&a. You see 2 different sgs2 next to eachother, one with blue tint, other not.
Mine has the blue ish thing too, but to me it seems more like a coating?
Last night I lifted my Phone from my desk on low battery and the screen went very strange and turned to a completely washed out green/blue colour. I hit the lock button and then unlocked again and it all went back to normal. Very strange.
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I have noticed this on the Galaxy s2 I was looking at in the store yesterday.
If I tilted the screen only about 15-20 degrees whites would appear blue. It realy put me off.
That was the only model they had there though, so I could not check if it was a defect specific to that one piece.
simacca said:
I was in the o2 shop today playing about with the Galaxy S2 and I noticed that if I angled the screen slightly, everything would get a blue tint to it. This was most noticeable when there is a lot on white on the screen.
Is this a common problem with the new handset, as I remember reading a similar thing with the older super amoled panels?
I loved the phone, but was put off by the blue tint.
Thanks.
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Just a suggestion: it could be due to the gorilla glass. Could be a refractive property when viewed at an angle.
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I have just purchased this handset on o2. Much better in the hand. I have a slight blue tint, but no other defects that I have noticed yet.
Am loving it so far.
I only have KE2 on my handset. Kies says its the latest version, but I have been reading about KE7?
Can someone point me to the correct thread please. Am very new to Android so haven't a clue really lol.
Thanks.
simacca said:
I have just purchased this handset on o2. Much better in the hand. I have a slight blue tint, but no other defects that I have noticed yet.
Am loving it so far.
I only have KE2 on my handset. Kies says its the latest version, but I have been reading about KE7?
Can someone point me to the correct thread please. Am very new to Android so haven't a clue really lol.
Thanks.
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Stick to KE2 man. I had KE7 loaded at one point and battery life was poor.
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Any updates on this?
My replacement screen exhibits the same issue. Except mine becomes apparent while only tilting the phone 3 degrees or more off centre.
[edit] I can't post video links yet, but if you search "Galaxy s2 screen tint comparison" on YouTube, the first 20 seconds of the video highlights the issue.
I just recently switched from an Evo 4G to a new Evo 3D. After about an hour of having it I noticed something was off with the screen. It had a yellowish tint to it (I've had an Evo 4G and a Nexus S 4G do this out of the box also). Now I did return the phone to get one that had a correctly functioning screen, but my question is this: Has anyone else experienced this with the Evo 3D? I did notice that the serial number on the 3Ds with the yellowed screens were HT17 models and the one I ended up with that had a good screen was an HT16.
P.S. I just want other users thoughts on this. I don't want people telling me to just exchange the phone. Has anyone else with the HT17 models experienced this? There were three Evo 3Ds that I have seen do this.
I have an HT17 serial number and my screen is not yellowish tint at all. Very happy with the whites.
My best guess is that this Sprint store received a bad batch. Or I just have bad luck considering I have run across 5 yellowed screens across 3 different products.
I have a ht16 now and i got the yellowish screen. I had 2 before that was bright whites but I dont remember what they were. I dont know if i really wanna exchange again since everything else is good and dont want to end something worse
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my original 3D was a HT16 I got through the premier order deal and had a slight tilt to the screen so I got telesales to send me another. The new one is an HT17. Now on to the differences I've noticed so far.
HT16(original)
Screen-> darker/slight yellow whites(or more realistic) when compared to the new one.
dmesg showed the following:
"panel: mipi_cmd_novatek_qhd"
"<6>[ 1.797454] mipi_novatek_panel_type_detect: panel_type=PANEL_ID_SHR_SHARP_NT"
HT17(newer just received yesterday)
brighter whites somewhat fake at times i guess you could view it.
power button was very mushy and much tougher to work compared to the HT16 which was very firm and clicky.
dmesg showed:
"<6>[ 1608.757825] Panel Type = PANEL_ID_SHR_SHARP_NT"
Now on to the odd thing. I took pictures with both phones in the exact same location and settings and you can tell when viewing on the phone the one has lil brighter(maybe faker) whites. I thought possibly that it could be just because of the screen and the photo taken would look the same on a PC but they dont. you still see the diff in whites on home PC. Also somehow the photos size were different with the HT17(brighter whites) coming in at 611KB, and the older HT16 file was 776KB.
Now whats even funnier is that when you select the photo in the gallery and view details the HT17(brighter whites) lists it at 478KB and the HT16(original) lists its size at 613KB. This is different fromt he size thats listed when you email it, and even whats listed next to it when you attach it in an email.
anyone explain what I posted up at all?
I'm gonna try mine with the same picture test. How do you find the HT#? I'm sure it's so stupid obvious I'm just overlooking it.....
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I'm gonna try mine with the same picture test. How do you find the HT#? I'm sure it's so stupid obvious I'm just overlooking it.....
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its on the box your phone came in and also should be under the battery.
As for your issue with the picture file size, that just sounds odd. Were both phones the same software version?
the yellowing could possibly be glue that hasnt dried all the way yet. it happens if they are moving units real fast. if this is the problem it should dry out in a few days and your whites will be white again. could be a defect too. if anyone else has this problem try giving it a few days and see if it goes away.
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As for your issue with the picture file size, that just sounds odd. Were both phones the same software version?
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nope the original one was on the original OS, while the other was on the newer one.
Killa357 said:
I just recently switched from an Evo 4G to a new Evo 3D. After about an hour of having it I noticed something was off with the screen. It had a yellowish tint to it (I've had an Evo 4G and a Nexus S 4G do this out of the box also). Now I did return the phone to get one that had a correctly functioning screen, but my question is this: Has anyone else experienced this with the Evo 3D? I did notice that the serial number on the 3Ds with the yellowed screens were HT17 models and the one I ended up with that had a good screen was an HT16.
P.S. I just want other users thoughts on this. I don't want people telling me to just exchange the phone. Has anyone else with the HT17 models experienced this? There were three Evo 3Ds that I have seen do this.
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Check this out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JRe5VGmpZs&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I've had 3 Evos...2 with the yellowish tint, and one without. I honestly don't think most people notice since it seems other colors are fine and sharpness is still good. It's only apparent usually when you go to a app or webpage with an allwhite background and even more apparent when you compare it to another phone with a nonyellow tint(which I did).
i just got a replacement yesterday and the screen has a yellow tint. i dont know if i should keep it or return it.
I'm using a HT17 and the screen is very yellow. If I max out the brightness it gets washed out and the blacks goes almost grey. Next to my Desire Z the screen doesn't even come close to representing the correct colors. I notice this especially in the search page and a blank internet page.
My Sensations had totally different screen as well. The first was nice and white and the second was yellowish... I'm so frustrated...
I noticed that side by side, the evo has cooler colors (blue tint) and I've noticed that the 3d has warmer colors (red tint). May just be the nature of the screen
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Hi there,
I just got my touchpad 16gb and on boot (dark) my screen looks like this:
Is this normal on touchpad or should I send it back.
Thanks for your opinions!
drtek said:
Hi there,
I just got my touchpad 16gb and on boot (dark) my screen looks like this:
Is this normal on touchpad or should I send it back.
Thanks for your opinions!
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It's an IPS display pannel screen, which are known for being super bright and having light bleed on blacks. However, they also have the best color gamut (range) and quality. Apple uses them for all of their displays (including the ipad). You could turn down the brightness a bit if it bothers you.
Mine had the same issue
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Mine had the same issue
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What do you mean by had? Did you send it in for repairs or did you cope?
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drtek said:
Hi there,
I just got my touchpad 16gb and on boot (dark) my screen looks like this:
Is this normal on touchpad or should I send it back.
Thanks for your opinions!
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If I were you I'd definitely send it back while you still can and claim one of the 100,000 - 200,000 HP is going to produce next month. Mine has a slight cloudyness / gohsting effect like yours but is barely noticeable even on max brightness on a black screen. These Touchpads have been know to have screen defects due to improper installation or settling in during production. So if it were me I'd send it in for repair. Sorry you just got it and will end up missing it while its away I feel your pain. Hope I could help.
To fix the issue...
Go to setting and slide down the BRIGHTNESS...
Hope to solve your screen issue.
Mine looks identical to yours. Though I don't notice it very often in normal use.reminds me of my old g2x screen (also ips). I guess just live with it.
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Mine looks similar. Luckily it's only really noticeable as the device boots.
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backlight clouding
my touchpad got the same issue, seems to be normal, sadly
Add another one to the list.
All 3 touchpads I purchased exhibit similar backlight bleeding--all along the same left side, near the speakers.
1 was about as severe as the attached picture in the OP. The others minimal.
My guess is faulty design in tandem with the IPS technology resulting in what seems to be widespread--aka normal.
Yeah, i notice it on my normal desktop IPS monitors as well, but mostly if you have brightness way up and a full black screen. IPS has a drawback that it does not display true black very well. I keep my normal monitors at like 30-40% brightness (much higher and I would go blind from it) and I don't really notice it.
All are the same
Have seen 6 of them plus mine...same issues.
Deal with it at 99... whe ask perfection for a tablet at the price of the photo frame. HP should return your money and donate the tablet to a poor kid in the third world. They will save some money in that case...
If less means "more" than "all" will be nothing!
Yeah my Asus Transformer IPS panel also had light bleed. It the IPS panels are excellent screens, but this is one of the prices you pay. Besides during normal use you don't really notice it.
I advise not staring at your screen while it's booting up.
Got my TP back from the European Service Center (located in Hungary) today.
Well, the bleeding on the left edge of the screen got slightly better BUT the operation left visible marks on the housing.
It seems they pried the Touchpad open with some sort of tool around in the area of the rubber seal surrounding the display, thus leaving "screwdriver-marks".
I will contact HP Support again.
Should have listened to you IPS Panel guys
I wanted to test the super amoled screen of our sgs3 and see that black black its display can show !
Since i came from an HD2 , i thought for a while that the sgs3 had the blackest black i've ever seen.. but then curiosity came in and after some tests, it turned out that e.g the galaxy s 2 has a better black and that on sgs3 it is still a bit grey !
Also cheched a black photo to compare it with Nokia's N8 clear black display ..and got beaten as well >_>
I use Multitouch Visible Test to test the black of the devices along with the contrast of the colors when i touch the screen.
All tests have been done at night or at a very dark environment since at day there seems to be no difference.
My question here is :
Can you please confirm that this is a common thing among all of sgs3 users and not a display problem of my display ?
The gs3 lacks the true blacks that are possible with oled tech. I presume it was a compromise Samsung is making for some technical reason.
At first the grey tinge bothered me at night. Now, I don't care; the screen still looks gorgeous.
That said, when you first power on the screen, there is a brief moment where the blacks are truly off - ala gorgeous true black. The tinge might be modifiable in firmware or drivers, but I bet Samsung is lighting all the pixels for a reason.
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The gs3 lacks the true blacks that are possible with oled tech. I presume it was a compromise Samsung is making for some technical reason.
At first the grey tinge bothered me at night. Now, I don't care; the screen still looks gorgeous.
That said, when you first power on the screen, there is a brief moment where the blacks are truly off. This might be modifiable in firmware or drivers, but I bet Samsung is doing lighting all the pixels for a reason.
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Exactly my observations and thoughts ! Thank you my friend at least it is not only me
of course it is still a great display .
I really feel its to reduce the black clipping in dark images and videos which are prevalent on the Galaxy Note and the galaxy nexus.
There was a software solution to reduce the clipping with an app called "Screen Adjuster" which, basically reduces the contrast and makes black "grey". The plus point was that, there is no clipping then.
So I guess samsung has done the same to the S3's screen as maybe they realized that the clipping us a Pentile HD AMOLED limitation.
This maybe helps?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1688896
Surely if rooted it's possible to set up a toggle for the standard 'true black'? I used to use the s2 to read white text on a black background and it was very satisfying to see only the white text with absolutely no glow. This was one of the reasons I went for the s3 over the one x.