When I use the pen to annotate pdfs on the Flyer, the width of the ink is WAY too large, even when I use the pen menu to turn it to the smallest setting.
The ink width is so wide that it's unusable for me. I was really hoping to read/annotate on the Flyer for work, but this seemingly small issue makes it impossible.
When I zoom in on a PDF, the ink width scales up proportionally. Ink shouldn't do this! I want to zoom in so i can write a small footnote in the margin, but the ink just gets bigger the more I zoom in.
Anyone else notice this? Anyone using the pen to annotate PDFs, and if so, how is it working for you?
One more thing: I can't erase or undo my highlights in the PDF viewer.
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When I use the pen to annotate pdfs on the Flyer, the width of the ink is WAY too large, even when I use the pen menu to turn it to the smallest setting.
The ink width is so wide that it's unusable for me. I was really hoping to read/annotate on the Flyer for work, but this seemingly small issue makes it impossible.
When I zoom in on a PDF, the ink width scales up proportionally. Ink shouldn't do this! I want to zoom in so i can write a small footnote in the margin, but the ink just gets bigger the more I zoom in.
Anyone else notice this? Anyone using the pen to annotate PDFs, and if so, how is it working for you?
One more thing: I can't erase or undo my highlights in the PDF viewer.
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Yea. I have noticed this problem as well. It seems like the inking is only meant for highlighting or something. Even the choice of pens is limited in the application.
Yes, only one pen and even the smallest size is pretty big in PDF Viewer. Note that in Polaris office there is only one pen too but the small size is a nice small size and works well---problem there is portability. Ink does not show up in Word once inked on and sent to one's computer.
Here is what happens on mine in terms of erasing:
1. can erase if I have not yet saved
2. can erase if I save without flattening
3. cannot erase if I save flattened.
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Here is what happens on mine in terms of erasing:
1. can erase if I have not yet saved
2. can erase if I save without flattening
3. cannot erase if I save flattened.
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I am able to erase ink under the conditions you listed, but I can't seem to erase highlighting unless I exit without saving. Same for you, I suspect?
I bought the Flyer to read and annotate my PDFs at university.
But with that thick strokes it's pretty unusable at the moment.
I would like to have the annotation feature (annotations at the right side) from the ebook-app in the pdf-viewer and a much thinner pen.
Do you think HTC is going to give us an update soon?
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When I use the pen to annotate pdfs on the Flyer, the width of the ink is WAY too large, even when I use the pen menu to turn it to the smallest setting.
The ink width is so wide that it's unusable for me. I was really hoping to read/annotate on the Flyer for work, but this seemingly small issue makes it impossible.
When I zoom in on a PDF, the ink width scales up proportionally. Ink shouldn't do this! I want to zoom in so i can write a small footnote in the margin, but the ink just gets bigger the more I zoom in.
Anyone else notice this? Anyone using the pen to annotate PDFs, and if so, how is it working for you?
One more thing: I can't erase or undo my highlights in the PDF viewer.
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I haven't had the problem when I zoom in. I am able to zoom in and write between the lines of text really well and when I zoom out I can still read it.
I haven't found a solution for deleting highlighting unless you exit without saving...
You can erase the highlight by clicking on it with your finger.
In the "Pop-Up" there are buttons to select the highlight-color and one button to delete the highlight (in my German Version it's called "Markierung entfernen" which means something like "delete mark").
Unfortunately i haven't found a way to delete all the highlight at once yet.
Not got one yet but have read (and seen on YouTube) that if you press harder the line is thicker and the lighter you press the thinner the line - Maybe that works in pdf viewer too???
Good luck
I tried it at bestbuy today. The freehand inking pen does not seem pressure sensitive. You can pick different thicknesses for the pen, and it stays at that thickness. The thinnest line is actually rather thick, like 10-ish pixels at the highest zoom level.
In the brush popup menu, there is one of the menus that allows you to undo/redo strokes.
BTW, can somebody upload an annotated pdf? I would like to open it in a few desktop pdf viewers.
thanks for all the comments thus far.
there is no pressure sensitivity for the pen in the pdf app for me, and the line is jittery, like the tablet is sampling the pen location too infrequently.
my view is that the pdf software was rushed for release and is in such an unfinished state that it is unusable. For me this negates the entire purpose of owning the Flyer.
HTC had better release a working version of their promised pdf annotator or they are going to lose customers and gain bad rep. on the other hand if they respond with updates in a timely manner.. they'll gain the kind of good publicity you can't buy.
as it stands, i will be telling my colleagues to stay away from HTC.
to those looking for good pdf annotation for android, try an app called ezPDF.
anyone have any other useful apps to recommend?
chimpmonk said:
thanks for all the comments thus far.
there is no pressure sensitivity for the pen in the pdf app for me, and the line is jittery, like the tablet is sampling the pen location too infrequently.
my view is that the pdf software was rushed for release and is in such an unfinished state that it is unusable. For me this negates the entire purpose of owning the Flyer.
HTC had better release a working version of their promised pdf annotator or they are going to lose customers and gain bad rep. on the other hand if they respond with updates in a timely manner.. they'll gain the kind of good publicity you can't buy.
as it stands, i will be telling my colleagues to stay away from HTC.
to those looking for good pdf annotation for android, try an app called ezPDF.
anyone have any other useful apps to recommend?
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Did you report this to HTC? You're more likely to get a fix if you report it (and even more likely if lots of people report it).
I created two pdf-files with the same content. The difference is that one is saved "flattened" and the other one is save with "two layers". (HTC offers these two methods to save the pdf).
I was extremely surprised when i just tried to open the two files with PDF-XChange Viewer. There are NO ANNOTATIONS to see.
@solsearch: Yes, i wrote to the German HTC-Support yesterday.
At the moment the Flyer is nothing more than any other (cheaper) tablet.
The pen is nice but much more a gimmick than a useful feature for my purposes.
@Gathering: thanks for the upload! I opened both of them on Evince (linux) and Foxit Reader (windows) and both picked up the annotations. I was also able to manipulate the highlights in Foxit. The different highlighting colors looks good! I wasn't able to change color at BB yesterday.
The flattened and non-flattened appear the same in Foxit though. I can manipulate each individual annotation... don't know what the separate layer did.
I'm very interested in using the Flyer to replace my current ebook reader. I can compromise on the thickness issue as long as it's good enough in terms of general writing precision.
I was a bit disappointed that I couldn't add text notes to the pdf, but the software is actually made by Foxit, so I don't know how well updates will be for the pdf reader.
EDIT: has anybody tried out ezPDF reader? The video reviews look fantastic. Unfortunately it won't take advantage of HTC Scribe, but I'm definitely considering using it to complement the regular pdf viewer if I get the Flyer.
I do a lot of work through PDFs also, and I have no issues with how the pen interacts in PDF Viewer. The line with is a little thick, but it worked well for what I need it to do. Usually the notes are for me and I like the "pen and paper feel".
It would be nice to be able to type comments... I think that's what people miss. Because I tusually don't "write" notes into PDFs on my computer... No digitizer.
They are also readable in the default Adobe reader on Windows (it gives a small error message but everything showed up from what I could see), this means that anyone should be able to view the notes (since I assume the default Adobe readers on other OSs will also work).
Thickness depends on Portrait/Landscape
I too am frustrated by the pen thickness issue in the PDF viewer. Annotating PDFs was the main reason for buying the HTC Flyer. One thing to note though, the thickness you get also depends on whether you are in portrait or landscape. I get a thinner pen in Portrait than Landscape. I get slightly better annotations, therefore, when I use it in Portrait mode.
Same here, the ink gets too thick in the pdf documents
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I too am frustrated by the pen thickness issue in the PDF viewer. Annotating PDFs was the main reason for buying the HTC Flyer. One thing to note though, the thickness you get also depends on whether you are in portrait or landscape. I get a thinner pen in Portrait than Landscape. I get slightly better annotations, therefore, when I use it in Portrait mode.
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I encourage everyone to report this issue to HTC, and possibly reference this thread when you do.
As for me (the OP), I am not waiting around an indefinite amount of time for HTC to fix their broken Flyer PDF annotation software. After all, they have not even acknowledged it's broken or that a fix is coming.
I can't even "fix" the problem myself by writing a better annotator app because HTC hasn't released the Flyer ink SDK.
So I returned my Flyer to bestbuy, and exchanged it for a Motorola Xoom. You can annotated PDFs on the xoom much more easily than on the Flyer- just get a piece of software called ezPDF, or try Repligo PDF. Annotation on the xoom using these programs is much nicer than the Flyer's annotator, even though the Xoom does not have native pen support.
Xoom is roughly the same price as a Flyer +pen, but the Xoom is MUCH faster, has a much better screen, and runs honeycomb 3.1 right now.
If you are using a Flyer and you have never tried a Xoom, you don't know what you're missing.
I still love the concept of the Flyer, but unfortunately the implementation is half-assed.
I guess it depends on the way you are using it. While trying to annotate pages was useless I just zoomed in and everything was fine...
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hi guys..
would like to know if anyone is using the EzPDF reader on the flyer..
wanna check whether the magazine pdf file will fill up the whole screen on the flyer in portrait mode.. and if the text are readable (without having to strain the eyes) without having to zoom in..
I am able the read magazine pdf files on my Asus transformer..
on the verge of letting it go as the Flyer is more portable..
I have it. I'm not sure if it makes the text more readable. Readability wise it's like the pdf reader that comes with the flyer.
does the pdf viewer on the flyer make the text readable?..
just do not wish to strain my eyes..
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does the pdf viewer on the flyer make the text readable?
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What do you mean? The quality of the screen? The viewers possibilities self or what?
All other stuff depends on the pdt self (text, document sizes, marges, etc.)
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What do you mean? The quality of the screen? The viewers possibilities self or what?
All other stuff depends on the pdt self (text, document sizes, marges, etc.)
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not quality of the screen but the text itself..
curious if the text is "big" enough to read comfortably when in full screen portrait mode..
do not wish to squint my eyes when i read the magazine in portrait mode..
Personally I prefer magazines on my iPad for the screen-size. I just downloaded a magazine onto my Flyr as a test. I used the default PDF app, with pen integration, and you can zoom in enough to read each column of text while in portrait mode. My magazine page had 4 columns per page probably a 10pt font.
I didn't check if the PDF viewer supports side by side (2 page) viewing and whether you could zoom in far enough to read text.
The Flyr seems fine for magazine viewing in portrait mode.
It appears that your question is a hardware question and not a software question.
The transformer has 67% greater resolution than the flyer. In other words, both full screen, it contains up to 67% more detail. Physically the screen is about twice as large.
Thus, a rough estimate is if you take the text size on the transformer and cut it in half (50% ~ 67% zoom level) do you think you can read comfortably? If not, probably not.
If none of this makes sense, the short answer is, no, it is not going to be as comfortable as the transformer. Your arm will be more comfortable though
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It appears that your question is a hardware question and not a software question.
The transformer has 67% greater resolution than the flyer. In other words, both full screen, it contains up to 67% more detail. Physically the screen is about twice as large.
Thus, a rough estimate is if you take the text size on the transformer and cut it in half (50% ~ 67% zoom level) do you think you can read comfortably? If not, probably not.
If none of this makes sense, the short answer is, no, it is not going to be as comfortable as the transformer. Your arm will be more comfortable though
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i agree with u..
this is more a hardware Qn..
my mistake..
i did what you mentioned actually..
i simulated the size of a 7" screen on my transformer using pinch to zoom..
cant read comfortably though.. haha..
however i have since sold my transformer and deciding between Flyer or Tab10.1..
transformer has a nice screen but the weight is killing me..
Flyer isn't exactly light either, but that's the tradeoff for a more durable aluminium case. My iPad isn't light either. But I definitely appreciate the durability of a metal case.
i use EzPDF, its not great on the eyes for reading text but you can zoom a little if need be. i would say with no doubt a bigger screen would be better
It was heart wrenching to sell my transformer as it is a very good honeycomb device but the creaking back and light bleeding was too much for me to take..
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Acers Iconia looks promising for a 10" Android Tablet. It's unfortunate of the price point of these devices... I guess we have Apple for setting the bar so high.
Hi, I am looking to purchase an accessory to accommodate me in college. Im looking to stray away from the traditional pen and paper note taking that I am so sick and tired of. Most of my lectures are via powerpoint and I have access to the files. I am looking for something that would be quick, reliable, have good battery, and easy to take notes on. I'll be taking 20+ pages of notes per lecture, so, comfort is a big factor as well. I would also, as a luxury, like to record the lectures.
My reasons for a Flyer:
Flyer Pen is the most native thing to pencil and paper
Voice recording sync with notes
Ability to upload to dropbox, etc
Size
No "clickity" keyboard
Questions for Flyer:
How easy is it to write legibly, small, and quickly with the pen?
How does note taking over top of slides work?
How is the battery life on widow constant use of note taking and recording?
I've heard reports of the device failing after 10+ pages of notes... explain?
Reasons for Chromebook:
Good battery
Quick boot
Cloud abilities
Keyboard is efficient and easy
Other:
Any suggestions?
Thanks!
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That is a good question. I have not used the flyer for more then a few pages of notes. But a screen protector is a must for taking notes, it adds friction and makes for a better experience.
As for battery life on the Flyer I can go about 2 full days on a charge...but I do have the WiFi only version.
I have not tried any Chrome books but for what you want to do I think a Flyer might be better suited for your needs.
Check out "livescribe". Ive been using it for over a year now and still think it's awesome. Especially now that it syncs with Evernote.
Combine it with a Flyer and all the college chicks will fall for you
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Being a college student myself, I use Blackboard to download my lecture slides. But different professors upload their slides in different formats so this is just my experience dealing with slide formats. Aside from the Notepad app, the Flyer comes with a few apps that support the pen, but otherwise taping on the screen takes a screen capture of the current screen and lets you draw over it.
The default PDF app lets you scribble all over the PDF files nicely, but you can only write on the area of the page. The extra space on the edges of the screen will not take pen input. Having the pen on the thinnest ink, you can zoom in and fill in smaller boxes if necessary. Overall, writing on PDF files work well if your professors put up slides in the PDF format.
With the default Polaris Office, word documents (.doc, .docx) also takes pen input directly on top of the file. But .ppt files do not, and I have no idea why. Trying to write on a .ppt file will take a screenshot of the page and let you write on it, but its not saved on top of the .ppt file so you can't scroll through the slides with your ink on it. You can however append notated slides into the notepad app, but that means you can only add one page at a time and it becomes a bit of a hassle, especially if you deal with all .ppt stuff.
Writing on excel files also just lets you write on a screen capture.
I don't know if HTC will update or release more apps to use the pen, but that is all the pen can do at the moment. I believe they will release the pen's API in the future.
BTW, is is just me or you really can't write on top of .ppt slides without taking a screenshot? Seems a bit...feature-lacking to support .doc but not .ppt.
10+ pages seems to be a problem for the flyer. My meetings run about 90 min and go through about 3-4 pages of notes. I typically record audio from the meeting, hence fewer notes. I haven't experienced many problems... The autosave is annoying, but you learn to be patient.
People have reported problems with notes not saving, but I haven't run into that either. I usually exit with the back key, and multitask with the home key. No issues.
There is sound when the pen hits the screen. Similar to a chalkboard type effect, and it is picked up by the audio recording. Maybe a scrap piece of invisible shield on the pen tip would help. I print in block letters like architects... Maybe cursive would be a quieter fit.
You can get pretty detailed with letters... The letter size has increased due to loss of accuracy writing on glass. I find that writing in landscape mode makes the overall letter size smaller when reviewing notes... And also helps if you have a note-taking system which involves multiple columns for highlighting.
Play with the pen nibs also. They vary in the amount of smoothing in the pen line. Markers and the pencil definitely look more like normal writing, while the pen nib is a little more jagged.
If your notes are largely text based, stick with a slim netbook (learn to type faster ). If you need to draw diagrams, use a tablet... It's cool to take pictures of the lecturers drawing and include them in your notes.
Good luck with your decision. Get what works for you.
Hi,
I'm thinking to buy a new tablet pc for my school. I'll convert my books into pdf files and will continue lessons with tablet pc.
I need:
- Performance(performance means for me, what is smooth on home screen animations and switching between applications)
- Pen, which is has a thin pointer & body and useful for every app any second
- Screen size
And I searched the market for that options, result is : Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 or HTC Flyer.
Now, I need to know truths about HTC Flyer. Let me know them please..
Firstly when I was searching on the market, I tested the Flyer and saw the:
- Screen brightness is not well as SG 10.1
- Screen side plastics(especially left one) are has some empty space or you can create empty space with your hands
- I think performanceful smooth animations depends on operating system version. Honeycomb will not be like that
What about your lookouts? Battery time on usage and more important question: battery life? I mean is battery time is always same on same usage or its decreasing? Screen size is enough to school? Are you using it for school? How about microphone?
Thanks a lot for your answers.
Performance: Great performance, 1.5 GHz, smooth animations unless you install Honeycomb which is in beta and not a great idea to install.
Pen: The pen can only be used in the Notes app, all other drawing apps you must use the back of the pen.
Screen Size: 7 Inch is perfect, about the size of a pencil case or something.
Screen Brightness: The brightness is great, what are you talking about? Jack it up to max.
Screen Side Plastic: Post a picture, don't know what ur talking about.
Performance like i said before is great on the original rom that comes with it.
Battery: Phenomenal, 2 whole days with casual use (checking email, surfing web, watching 40 mins of a movie, playing games.
I love the Flyer.
I think 7" is perfect for me when it comes to reading PDFs or books on here. I'm not exactly sure what books you'll be using, but this is excellent for novels and the such.
Performance, for what you'll need to do, is optimal. In fact, this 1.5 ghz will outperform many of the dual cores out there, since dual core hasn't even matured in tablets yet.
As for the body, the back is made out of a single piece of aluminum and there are some plastic pieces where it need to be. I'm not sure what you're talking about with the side plastics. You will need to have some plastics on the sides of the screens so that you can hold it without your thumb blocking the screen. As for the Samsung, I believe the whole tablet is plastic.
Regarding brightness, again, you'll need to be a bit more specific here. The screen is plenty bright but what I have a problem is that the brightness doesn't really have a "lower" spectrum. For example, it will go from brightest, to very bright, and then off. It becomes too bright to use at night without any lights, but in the day, its phenomenal.
Battery is really good too. I just got mine yesterday ago so don't take my word on it.
Pen is a good tool, especially if you're hand writing, however it has very limited functionality.
Hi guys, screen filter can set to lower brightness.
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Hi guys, screen filter can set to lower brightness.
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Yeah, I use that at night when I'm reading.
There is no truths...both do the same damn thing. For me it was the build..quality..and feel.flyer kicks butt over it.
According to the AnandTech Review the Flyer's screen brightness is 389 Nits, and the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 is 492. According to the review "You need closer to 600 nits to be usable outdoors in sunlight".
I looked at a $4,000 high end Ruggedized, Daylight Enabled 12" Tablet (with a transflective screen) a couple of weeks ago and my HTC EVO View's screen was easier to read outside. (Although I had to turn it so the sun was not shining on the screen.) It is also easier to see my View's screen outside than my HTC EVO 4G phone.
I also use it to read books at night. I downloaded an app to dim the screen, and at it's lowest setting it's still a little too bright for comfort with the room lights off.
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Pen: The pen can only be used in the Notes app, all other drawing apps you must use the back of the pen.
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Actually the PDF reader uses the pen to annotate, but you can only annotate using plain lines. No fancy brushes.
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Actually the PDF reader uses the pen to annotate, but you can only annotate using plain lines. No fancy brushes.
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You can use the pen on PDF save and send (i.e. signing your name, I do it daily) - You can use to mark pictures and send, I do that 3-8 times week - You can take screen shots and mark them up too - AND of course you can use the pen in the notes app.
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One of Samsung's main businesses is making displays. So its not surprising if the display is slightly more vivid or bright, although I haven't compared side-to-side, myself.
Samsung tabs are cheap plastic all around, and don't exude the sturdy, high build quality that the aluminum unibody on the Flyer or Jetstream do.
Like everyone else said PDFs can be used with the pen I do it for my job. Honeycomb is not a bright idea. But myself I take chances and installed and to me personally I don't find to many faults with it. Nothing I can honestly complain about nothings perfect. It not perfect but I love it. It's depending on your preferences I just play games type up stuff and write notes for work and let my daughter play games and watch netflix and periodically receive and make calls on it. And it works perfectly for that.
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I have found the following are better than the built-in app when used with the HTC Magic pen and Honeycomb update:
Antipaper
https://market.android.com/details?...wxLDEsImNvbS5zdWJob2cuYW50aXBhcGVyLm5vdGVzIl0.
Writepad Stylus
https://market.android.com/details?...esult#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS53cml0ZXBhZCJd
Quill
https://market.android.com/details?...t#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS53cml0ZS5RdWlsbCJd
These apps don't integrate with Evernote as well the built-in Notes app. These apps require explicit export to Evernote.
Any other great notes apps out there with good hand writing support?
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These apps don't integrate with Evernote as well the built-in Notes app.
Any other great notes apps out there with good hand writing support?
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Did you mean they don't integrate with Evernote as well AS the built in note app? I'm definitely looking for a better note taking app that doesn't auto load the keyboard when my hand hits the screen before the pen.
But I can't really sacrifice Evernote integration.
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Did you mean they don't integrate with Evernote as well AS the built in note app? I'm definitely looking for a better note taking app that doesn't auto load the keyboard when my hand hits the screen before the pen.
But I can't really sacrifice Evernote integration.
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The apps I listed require explicit export to Evernote. Not an issue if you export say every week or every day.
Okay, so I've tried the 3 you've suggested. I'm glad they're only $1 each, because so far I'm not satisfied with any of them...
The most promising to me seems to be Writepad stylus. But here's what confuses/frustrates me. There's an option to have the app only take input from the Thinkpad Tablet n-trig pen. This sounds awesome seeing as our stylus is by n-trig. But once I turn it on, the scribe pen is useless. With this option off, the pen works as it should but the app still registers some marks from my palm resting on the screen.
Antipaper has a sweet looking interface. However, my handwriting doesn't look as good as it does with Writepad, plus it's even worse when it comes to registering marks from my palm.
Quill is neat as well, but suffers from the same problems.
My question is this:
Are there any apps that have an option like Writepad that makes it so it will only accept marks from the pen? Let me know. Hoping to take notes at a meeting I have to attend at 7:30 and need to find a solution beforehand.
Thanks
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Okay, so I've tried the 3 you've suggested. I'm glad they're only $1 each, because so far I'm not satisfied with any of them...
The most promising to me seems to be Writepad stylus. But here's what confuses/frustrates me. There's an option to have the app only take input from the Thinkpad Tablet n-trig pen. This sounds awesome seeing as our stylus is by n-trig. But once I turn it on, the scribe pen is useless. With this option off, the pen works as it should but the app still registers some marks from my palm resting on the screen.
Antipaper has a sweet looking interface. However, my handwriting doesn't look as good as it does with Writepad, plus it's even worse when it comes to registering marks from my palm.
Quill is neat as well, but suffers from the same problems.
My question is this:
Are there any apps that have an option like Writepad that makes it so it will only accept marks from the pen? Let me know. Hoping to take notes at a meeting I have to attend at 7:30 and need to find a solution beforehand.
Thanks
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I was a bit confused by your post. Quill, for me, does complete palm rejection when the pen or pencil is selected. In fact, it refuses any input by my fingers entirely while in this mode. This is one of the reasons why I put Quill above any of the other apps.
I agree with TSGM - Quill does a good job at palm rejection, and the inking quality is nearly as good as Wacom on my HP 2740p (I NEVER thought I'd say that about N-trig). What I still want is easy conversion to PDF for storage on our server since that is out standard.
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Okay, so I've tried the 3 you've suggested. I'm glad they're only $1 each, because so far I'm not satisfied with any of them...
The most promising to me seems to be Writepad stylus. But here's what confuses/frustrates me. There's an option to have the app only take input from the Thinkpad Tablet n-trig pen. This sounds awesome seeing as our stylus is by n-trig. But once I turn it on, the scribe pen is useless. With this option off, the pen works as it should but the app still registers some marks from my palm resting on the screen.
Antipaper has a sweet looking interface. However, my handwriting doesn't look as good as it does with Writepad, plus it's even worse when it comes to registering marks from my palm.
Quill is neat as well, but suffers from the same problems.
My question is this:
Are there any apps that have an option like Writepad that makes it so it will only accept marks from the pen? Let me know. Hoping to take notes at a meeting I have to attend at 7:30 and need to find a solution beforehand.
Thanks
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Palm detection is best with Quill and acceptable with Antipaper. With my Flyer, the built-in app does not have the fine precision of Quill nor Writepad Stylus. Fine detail is important to me. Also, the built-in app becomes slow after about two pages of notes.
you can get quill for free right from the dev
http://code.google.com/p/android-quill/downloads/detail?name=quill-v8.1.apk
I decided to give Quill another try thinking I must not have given it enough of a chance based on the positive comments in this thread regarding the app.
I used it for a half hour meeting. It does read hand writing very well. Turning off hand input also works well. It didn't pick up any marks from my palm or anything other than the pen.
I have a complaint though that I'm not sure can be resolved. As I got closer to the bottom of the "page", naturally my palm shifted lower on the screen. My palm began to trigger the quick menu on the bottom right to keep popping up which really got annoying. Any ideas on how to disable this while using the app?
Thanks for the Quill recommendation. The writing experience is a huge difference from the stock notes app. It would be nice if it had a palate to quickly switch between pens and color like the stock app.
I use all of them and went back to the notes app. The integration with Evernote is great. The integration with the calendar however is a big differentiator. I was in a meeting today an opened the notes app and it knew that I was in that meeting and automatically titled the notes btu the meeting name. the notes being stored on the calendar and Evernote is great add well.
Using both the pen and Swype gives me a great combination for quick text entry. I now need to figure out the right screen cover that maximizes the pen experience and I am set
Unlike in PDF editor, honeybar works great and hides the notification bar in quill without side effects.
Check this out, pretty cool, handwriting recognition and all ported over from the Lenovo Thinkpad.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426975
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I really like Quill, it works really well. I just finally put my old M200 up on eBay as a result of the View and the N-Trig stylus. The only thing that I miss from OneNote is the ability to lasso a section of text/drawing(s) and move it freely to accommodate a better layout or more space. This is what made digital inking so worthwhile to me. Has anyone seen an app with this capability?
Same Enquiry Here as The OP's one but for GB ROMs ?
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Also of anyone is interested in other notes apps I've also been using quill (search it in the xda forum to get it free or buy it from the market to support the dev) and supernote by asus, also found in xda.
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gordonzhao said:
Check this out, pretty cool, handwriting recognition and all ported over from the Lenovo Thinkpad.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426975
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Thanks.
Just installed it, awesome!
LectureNotes
LectureNotes - Just wanted to put this app out there for consideration. I am new to flyer and looking to replace the capabilities I had with my Dell Latitude XT and MS Onenote synced thru the cloud. Lecture Notes seems to have a great inking capability and good organization, but lacks the Evernote integration of the native notes app. Just need to ask, has anyone learned a way to disable the onscreen keyboard in the notes app. If not for that, it could be my potential replacement.
None of the links to download work for me. Takes me to file sharing page but file won't download.
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Thanks for the info on lecture notes. I used all the note programs and think this is probably the best
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Hey everyone, I've had this idea of trying to merge the use of my transformer prime with my business. I go out to several homes a day to take measurements for various things, as well as sketch rough drawings. Does anyone here use their tablet for something similar?
The reason I ask is because I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 2 and the stylus that comes with that has a nice fine tip that I can create notes and drawings in Evernote pretty well with.. but that stylus won't work on the transformer. So I ordered the Wacom Bamboo stylus with the rubber end. But when I write numbers like "39 3/4" or something -- it looks like a 5 year old wrote it. Same goes for the simple drawings and the dimensions.
Are there any options available that can make the tablet useful for this type of work?
Thanks everyone,
An excellent app for Android for stylus-based notes and sketches is LectureNotes. It has a ton of features, and the developer keeps improving the app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.acadoid.lecturenotes
Quill is also a pretty good writing/sketching app, but not as many features as LectureNotes:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.write.Quill
For styluses that have finer control, you may want to consider some of the following stylus makers:
iFaraday: has a dielectric micro-mesh surface, which is stiffer than than rubber-tip stylus. I have the Artist version, and it's great for sketching.
Adonit: the Jot Pro fine-point stylus, has a transparent disc so you can better see the point of contact. Good for handwriting.
DAGi: similar in style to the Adonit, in a variety of sizes.
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An excellent app for Android for stylus-based notes and sketches is LectureNotes. It has a ton of features, and the developer keeps improving the app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.acadoid.lecturenotes
Quill is also a pretty good writing/sketching app, but not as many features as LectureNotes:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.write.Quill
For styluses that have finer control, you may want to consider some of the following stylus makers:
iFaraday: has a dielectric micro-mesh surface, which is stiffer than than rubber-tip stylus. I have the Artist version, and it's great for sketching.
Adonit: the Jot Pro fine-point stylus, has a transparent disc so you can better see the point of contact. Good for handwriting.
DAGi: similar in style to the Adonit, in a variety of sizes.
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Thank you for the recommendations! I did search quite a bit when it came to which stylus to order and I did see the Jot Pro. I was going to order it but I saw a few YouTube videos of people using it and it wasn't working all that great.
Basically my sketches would be very limited to some rather basic line drawings.. it's not like I'm sketching faces or anything elaborate. So I'd much rather have something more geared to neater handwriting.
As far as the apps go, do they themselves have anything to do with the responsiveness of the device? I know the answer is probably no, but I was wondering if their software tends to "correct" on the fly making for neater lines or whatever.. I'm not sure if that question is completely clear or not.
The reason I ask is because I like Evernote's interface and I like that you can synchronize accounts with certain notebooks, etc.
As far as a technical question goes -- do you know why my galaxy note's stylus will not work with the prime? I read that they are both capacitive touch screens.. but I guess there is more to it than just that.
Thanks again!
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As far as the apps go, do they themselves have anything to do with the responsiveness of the device? I know the answer is probably no, but I was wondering if their software tends to "correct" on the fly making for neater lines or whatever.. I'm not sure if that question is completely clear or not.
The reason I ask is because I like Evernote's interface and I like that you can synchronize accounts with certain notebooks, etc.
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LectureNotes and Quill do not "improve" the quality of the writing, however they both have a zoom mode where you can write larger (and more legibly) and then this is unzoomed in the captured writing. LectureNotes has some fine-tuning options to improve the screen responsiveness to the stylus, and the apps have a palm detection feature so there is an area on the screen you can rest your hand and not have that detected by the screen.
You may also want to check out the Skitch app, which is from Evernote. It does improve or smooth out writing, and integrates very well with Evernote.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.evernote.skitch
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As far as a technical question goes -- do you know why my galaxy note's stylus will not work with the prime? I read that they are both capacitive touch screens.. but I guess there is more to it than just that.
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The Galaxy Note devices have both a capacitive touch screen and an active digitizer screen that works with the special S-pen stylus. The S-pen stylus does not work on capacitive touch screens that come with most tablets (like the Prime) or smartphones. For capacitive touch screens you will need a standard capacitive stylus.