flyer power down and power on - HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G

hello all
just gost my flyer and its awesome I thought the 7inch factor would suck but quite the opposite. it is very fast.
I shut it down and shut it off constanly because its comes back on so fast is there is problem with that, hardware wise would I be damaging anything? just curious I guess
thanks in advance
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How about leaving the flyer in sleep/standby mode?
For this I use Screen Off FX available on the market for free.
Clearly, it depends on how many times in a day, and how gentle or otherwise you shut off and turn on the device. Wear and tear on the power button will happen sooner on those devices that are frequently played with in this way.
Is there any reason why you shut off your device often in a day?

Are you powering off or putting it to sleep mode? You can also look into the screen time-out period.

I feel as if Im using it like my netbook have it on for what I need then completely shutting it down to conserve battery life ie I use it in the morning and then head to work for a few hours so its shut down then come home to use it and then shut it down again before I sleep, but i guess no other reason for me doing it other than trying to conserve battery life. I was thinking it comes on so fast why not turn it off when not in use to conserve battery

Battery life on the device is not bad. It easily lasts an entire day... That's with WiFi on and push Exchange mail.
If you want even better battery life, turn on airplane mode also.

kcchen said:
Battery life on the device is not bad. It easily lasts an entire day... That's with WiFi on and push Exchange mail.
If you want even better battery life, turn on airplane mode also.
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You should be able to get a whole days use and change with a full charge. The only time when you might notice heavier battery usage is when you use the pen. With 1-2 hrs of pen use, coupled with push and web surfing, I can still squeek by for the day. So use it and enjoy

HTC Flyer power down problem
Can't turn on HTC Flyer after power down during 10h ... power button is green after charge but device doesn't start.
Any ideas?

I would recommend to use the built in standby function, under settings/power you can select a time frame in which the device will turn off all radios while screen is off. But i do not think that this is necessary. I am just using this during nighttime. I can give you an inside view of my Flyers working day:
0530 disconnect from power supply
10-15 minutes surfing over WLAN
0630 in office surfing HSDPA until 1200
1200 Connecting the power cord with my laptop (charging over normal USB is slower than over power supply)
1530 disconnect from laptop with roundabout 50% Power
1600 arriving at home and start surfing and sometimes watching a tv show episode
2330 connecting the Flyer with its power supply. Power level is ~25%
If you do not have the time to surf or otherwise use the Flyer over the day for more than 8 hours i would guess you will come home with 10-15% power left.
Not to forget, i am using a lot of social and news apps, games and checking my 3 mail accounts automatically hourwise.

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[Q] How does WebOS keep battery so long

I swear, If I screen lock the device, It will not lose more then 2% over hours and hours, while my transformer will use 10-20%. How does WebOS do this? I would love for amazing battery for my tablet (or even phone, but phone has a data connection which drains more)
I heard that many power saving features are integrated into the hardware
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the battery life on this thing is definitely impressive
I have to agree, battery life is awesome, i've actually gone a week without having to charge the thing whilst using it everyday for some web browsing.
i don't know but holy **** i used my tablet until it read 0%, went to sleep for 8 hours, turned it back on and it was still at 0% charge...impressive
Do you guys leave wifi on? Or have it set to turn off with the screen?
i left mine on overnight with wifi on and i lost 12%. checking for messages in the background probably caused that big of a drain.
My wifi is on, messages are pushed (not checked), but it barely drains any. It's great!
Like I said in another post, the genetics of web-OS are from Palm - my old Palm phone used to run for a week or more without charge whereas the Compaq's of that time, running Windows mobile OS, require charge often twice a day.

[Q] Battery life? Please help?

Hey, so I don't use my phone very much, and the battery life is almost laughable.
When I go to school, I turn off my 3G, and I usually listen to music for about 10-20 minutes before going to class, and then (today), I didn't really use it for the rest of the day. On the way home, I turned my data on, and I was playing some Cut the Rope for about 5-10 minutes. When I got home and put it on the charger, it was 60%. Is there any way to improve this?? I have my screen brightness at the lowest possible, and it's bewildering how it can get that low when I barely use.
When I had my DInc, I could do all this, and when I got home, it would be around 85 minimum.
nothing to concern about
I know you turn off your data during school hours but when you turn it back on, it will check all applications to see if there are any updates. You can just use your smart actions. Turn off background sync and cellular data until it's plugged in to a charger.
Try Badass Battery Monitor
Your battery life is way out of line with what I get. I never turn off 3G (My area isn't 4G yet.), and I barely use any battery unless I am actively using the phone. I am usually over 60% after being up for 10+ hours of moderately heavy use. I think that you may have an app that is not allowing your phone to sleep. Badass Battery Monitor from the Market will help you find it. Good luck!
From my experience, go to settings, applications, running services and in there see if something called "media" is running and if so close it.
I never run 3g unless 4g is down. And normally after 12+ hours with an hour charge in the day during my breaks at work I'm just getting into 10-20% battery. And that's with moderate usage. So your battery life is abnormal from my point of view.
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Battery problems

This is my 4th note. The 3 I had previously the battery lasted a long time. I kept the same battery from the first one in all three exchanges. I took the new battery for this fourth one. Could this battery be a bad one or should I return the phone again for a 5th time. I don't wanna take a chance getting a phone with the problems I had on the other 3.
Just looking for some opinions
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Here are some pics
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Good Lord, 3 exchanges! Wow... try running the battery all the way dead where the phone shuts itself down, keep it on the charger and charge it overnight (or in the realm of 8 hours) while leaving it off and see if that makes a difference. I ran my batt that way once and I'm getting 18 or so hours per charge (depending on how much I play with it).
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Good Lord, 3 exchanges! Wow... try running the battery all the way dead where the phone shuts itself down, keep it on the charger and charge it overnight (or in the realm of 8 hours) while leaving it off and see if that makes a difference. I ran my batt that way once and I'm getting 18 or so hours per charge (depending on how much I play with it).
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Yea I tied that. Doesn't seen to make a difference. I hopes its just the battery cuz that way I can just buy a new battery
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Could it really be a defective battery? Seems more like battery drain would be a phone hardware issue. All the batteries are made the same right?
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I have horrible battery life as well
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Reflash your modem, rom, and kernel. See if that helps
I only get about 3 hours of screen time myself. Seems normal for this phone. The huge screen eat up battery fast. Plus if your using LTE, so good bye to your battery.
I don't think you have a bad phone, That's just how it is in my opinion...
so whats your total at the end.. like say.. 5%..?
If you're getting about 3hrs screen time, I'd say you'd be on par with what I'm getting. Some days I can eek out close to 5 hours screen time, usually on the weekends when im at home and on WiFi.
s1mpd1ddy said:
so whats your total at the end.. like say.. 5%..?
If you're getting about 3hrs screen time, I'd say you'd be on par with what I'm getting. Some days I can eek out close to 5 hours screen time, usually on the weekends when im at home and on WiFi.
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I get about 4 hours and 45 Minutes of screen time.
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Considering the size of the screen I am getting decent battery life, sounds like what your experiencing is normal :/ but going through 3 phones must be very frustrating.
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I get about 4 hours and 45 Minutes of screen time.
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Auto Brightness?
I don't know why you guys are getting such horrible times. With regular use I'm getting an average of 8-10 hrs screen time, depending on what I'm doing. I'm running Saurom RCVI, with Da_g OC Kernel, and tweaked a few of the JKay settings. I recommend charging to 100%, wiping batter stats, and doing a power cycle on it. That's what I did after installing above Rom/Kernel, and battery went from from 4-5hrs to at a minimum 7hrs.
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I don't know why you guys are getting such horrible times. With regular use I'm getting an average of 8-10 hrs screen time, depending on what I'm doing. I'm running Saurom RCVI, with Da_g OC Kernel, and tweaked a few of the JKay settings. I recommend charging to 100%, wiping batter stats, and doing a power cycle on it. That's what I did after installing above Rom/Kernel, and battery went from from 4-5hrs to at a minimum 7hrs.
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I would like to see a screen shot of that
Fighting battery problems here as well. I'd assume it was normal for this phone, except when I see people posting great times.
1 week old phone. Switched to Saurom yesterday to see if it's any better. Screen regularly at 5%. Usually on Wifi most of the day (and I'm not in an LTE market yet). I set all my synchs (rss, weather) to 4 hours. Others (Twitter) are manual. Only Exchange Email is push.
Using Cpusy & BetterBatteryStats to try to see what's going on. Could be a bad battery - could be that the number I'm seeing is wrong.
Anyway, I'm getting about a 7% drain an hour *with the phone off* ! I'm even rebooting as needed to make sure it's in deep sleep & not 384 (which is very, very annoying). Unplugging the phone @ 7am means a dead battery by 3pm. And if I'm using the phone, it's more like 12-15% an hour (min screen, reading a book). Been charging in the car and at work - whenever I can for now.
Going to try to run some tests on the new rom. Leave phone off for 30-60 minutes & track % loss. Then, maybe put it in airplane mode & try again.
Some weird ones I see to often - Adfree, Maps, Alarm Manager (which I understand can come from almost any of my apps). Oh - tried Juice Defender, no help there either (didn't make any difference at all)
Finally, in the car with Waze (gps), a Podcast Playing, and the screen cranked up for visibility - the car dock/charger keeps the phone about even. On my HD2, a drive to work would charge up like 20-30% of my phone.
Really, really hope I don't need to carry a 2nd battery for days when I can't keep the phone charging.
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Fighting battery problems here as well. I'd assume it was normal for this phone, except when I see people posting great times.
1 week old phone. Switched to Saurom yesterday to see if it's any better. Screen regularly at 5%. Usually on Wifi most of the day (and I'm not in an LTE market yet). I set all my synchs (rss, weather) to 4 hours. Others (Twitter) are manual. Only Exchange Email is push.
Using Cpusy & BetterBatteryStats to try to see what's going on. Could be a bad battery - could be that the number I'm seeing is wrong.
Anyway, I'm getting about a 7% drain an hour *with the phone off* ! I'm even rebooting as needed to make sure it's in deep sleep & not 384 (which is very, very annoying). Unplugging the phone @ 7am means a dead battery by 3pm. And if I'm using the phone, it's more like 12-15% an hour (min screen, reading a book). Been charging in the car and at work - whenever I can for now.
Going to try to run some tests on the new rom. Leave phone off for 30-60 minutes & track % loss. Then, maybe put it in airplane mode & try again.
Some weird ones I see to often - Adfree, Maps, Alarm Manager (which I understand can come from almost any of my apps). Oh - tried Juice Defender, no help there either (didn't make any difference at all)
Finally, in the car with Waze (gps), a Podcast Playing, and the screen cranked up for visibility - the car dock/charger keeps the phone about even. On my HD2, a drive to work would charge up like 20-30% of my phone.
Really, really hope I don't need to carry a 2nd battery for days when I can't keep the phone charging.
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How often do you get exchange emails? I stopped using push exchange email as it was a huge drain on the battery with the volume of emails I get...
With this phone the screen draws some serious juice, so if your using you phone in the car with the screen on its using about 950mah of juice, so your car charger will likely only keep this phone from losing power, it may not gain any juice, and it may even loose juice depending on charger power and what the phone is doing currently.
This is also why most of us are seeing about 3 hours of screen on time, as while the screen is on its using probably 700-800mah of power. divide that by the 2500mah battery and you can see why...
You can try other programs to try and help with things like background data, undervolting, etc, but that's all going to have a small effect as the "problem" is the screen, its eats up most of your juice. If you want to save battery you need to go after the big thing, the screen, not the little things. However short of reducing the brightness there's not a ton you can do about the screen. It is a big screen, and it needs big power to drive it.
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How often do you get exchange emails? I stopped using push exchange email as it was a huge drain on the battery with the volume of emails I get...
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I get about 5 an hour during the day. Will try setting it to once an hour in my testing instead of push.
omniphil said:
With this phone the screen draws some serious juice, so if your using you phone in the car with the screen on its using about 950mah of juice
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I *think* (need to double check) that the charger is putting out 1A. Where did you get the 950m number from? Is there an appx. chart for different levels of screen brightness (how about 50% for example when in the car? oh - and how much lower is the 5% I use indoors?)
Agree, the #1 thing is the screen itself, which is why I get very confused when I have the large drain with the screen off.
I'll also have to try a test today where I turn on my podcast, but leave Waze off - and turn the screen off while it's charging in the car.
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I get about 5 an hour during the day. Will try setting it to once an hour in my testing instead of push.
I *think* (need to double check) that the charger is putting out 1A. Where did you get the 950m number from? Is there an appx. chart for different levels of screen brightness (how about 50% for example when in the car? oh - and how much lower is the 5% I use indoors?)
Agree, the #1 thing is the screen itself, which is why I get very confused when I have the large drain with the screen off.
I'll also have to try a test today where I turn on my podcast, but leave Waze off - and turn the screen off while it's charging in the car.
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950mah is an educated guess. If you have root you can run this in a terminal to see how much power you car charger is giving the phone... (su first)
cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/batt_current_adc
I usually get about 9100 for a result, which is 910.0 mah. and my phone will charge barely if I dont have gps going (screen on). if screen is on and gps is on the phone will slowly discharge, so that puts the phone power usage at about 900mah with screen on, so maybe 950 was too high of a guess. So when the phone screen is on, your using a ton of juice for such a small battery.
If I use just a podcast app and the screen is off the phone will charge much faster while in the car. If I have google maps running, it stays almost even...
You could even calculate your usage. She how many minutes your were driving with the screen off and the phone charging and note the amount of battery% gained in those minutes. You'd see a huge difference in charging times with the screen off. In my 50 minute commute to work, I gain about 20% battery charging with the screen off... With the screen on, I see almost nothing.
Seems like some days are better than others.
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SGS2 Weaknesses - Are they corrected in SGS3?

1) Wake up lag - On SGS2, when you press home button or power button to wake the device up, you wait 1 to 2 seconds before you see the screen. How is it on SGS3?
2) Home button lag - When you press the home button, does it react instantly, or does it wait for a double click and waste time?
3) High Android OS use with some ADSL routers, especially D-Link based ones. This made me keep wifi off all the time. I hope it's corrected on SGS3.
4) Very long charging time, espeically from USB - On SGS2 with even a relatively small 1650 mah battery, it takes more than 3 hours to charge the device on USB. I wonder how fast it is with 2100 mah on SGS3. If it takes 5 hours, forget it.
The charging wont change.. It's a limitation of USB rather than the phone.. A USB2 port has a max rating of 500ma
Some sgs2 roms had the option to force the phone to try and charge at 1amp when connected to USB.. Some machines it worked on, others it didnt and crapped out the port.
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wake up lag fixed basing on a post by user who already has that phone.
It will probably take around 4-5 hours to charge on USB as the phones battery is larger.
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It will probably take around 4-5 hours to charge on USB as the phones battery is larger.
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Earlier reviews state about 3 hours. Yea, I can't find any links now but I remember reading that.
Oh fair enough I hadn't read any which mentioned charging through a laptop.
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Earlier reviews state about 3 hours. Yea, I can't find any links now but I remember reading that.
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yeah read the same, its 3 hours.
The battery of the Galaxy Note (2500ma) takes around 6 hours to charge via usb, so expect 4 or 5 hours for the S3
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The battery of the Galaxy Note (2500ma) takes around 6 hours to charge via usb, so expect 4 or 5 hours for the S3
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LMFAO..from where did you get that.. galaxy note takes only 3hrs 15mins to charge from o to 100..
My charging time about 3.5 - 4 hours from 1% to 100%. If you start charging from 15% you will spend 3 - 3.5 hours
I'm charging my S3. 50% in 1 hour this time . Super charging
You guys reliaze we are talking about charging from usb, through a computer right?
USB2 has a maxium output of 500mA so it will take atleast 4.2 hours to charge a 2100mAh battery... and of course even more when it's powered on.
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1) Wake up lag - On SGS2, when you press home button or power button to wake the device up, you wait 1 to 2 seconds before you see the screen. How is it on SGS3?
Sometimes it's instant, sometimes (after not using it for a while) it takes a second to light up the screen.
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2) Home button lag - When you press the home button, does it react instantly, or does it wait for a double click and waste time?
There is a lag of about 0.5 sec.
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3) High Android OS use with some ADSL routers, especially D-Link based ones. This made me keep wifi off all the time. I hope it's corrected on SGS3.
I'm connected to a AVM Fritz!Box 7170. My current battery stats. This was heavy use (playing games for an hour, watching two hours of HD video, surfing the web for another two hours while listening to music).
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4h 58m 14s on battery
Mobilnetz-Signal: Mobile network signal
WLAN: Wi-Fi
Aufwachen: Awake
Bildschirm an: Screen on
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4) Very long charging time, espeically from USB - On SGS2 with even a relatively small 1650 mah battery, it takes more than 3 hours to charge the device on USB. I wonder how fast it is with 2100 mah on SGS3. If it takes 5 hours, forget it.
Charging via AC was ~3 hours, via USB it's ~5 hours.
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LMFAO..from where did you get that.. galaxy note takes only 3hrs 15mins to charge from o to 100..
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I have a note and I'm talking about usb charging...
to op who asked about wakeup lag.
this vid shows no wakeup lag.
aren't lags like that supposed to be only on those who underclock to very very low speeds during sleep or deep sleep thus on wake-up those who set it to incremental step up in speeds experience this kind of lag?
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to op who asked about wakeup lag.
this vid shows no wakeup lag.
aren't lags like that supposed to be only on those who underclock to very very low speeds during sleep or deep sleep thus on wake-up those who set it to incremental step up in speeds experience this kind of lag?
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Nope, on SGS2, you get wake up lag with all voltages and all speed settings. It's the time the kernel wakes the modem up and it can't be changed because it's designed that way.
The video is interesting, but I'm not sure it gives an idea about wake up lag. In the beginning, the guy doesn't give the phone enough time to go to deep sleep, so it doesn't count. In 2:22, he turns off the phone with video playing in the background, so the phone doesn't sleep either.
I wish there would be a video where someone wakes the phone from deep sleep and we can see if there is a lag or not. Most weaknesses corrected by flashing CM9 or AOKP, but this one is a hardware problem, and I'm never buying another phone with this kind of lag.
Can't link to the video (tapatalk blah too lazy blah blah) but I do remember seeing one of the reviews and the device DID have the same damn lag... I died a little inside when I saw screen turning on a bit more than 1 sec after the guy pressed the power button.
I'm finding USB charger on my S3 very quick compared to the S2.
However, there is definite home button lag. It's better now that I've disabled the double home button tap for S Voice (homescreen shortcut instead) but there's still a lag. It could be Apex rather than the phone.
All said, battery life is excellent. FAR better than the S2. S2 got me through about 8 hours. S3, with similar use, is about 60% after those same 8 hours.
The S3 seems slower to me. I'm looking forward to having the kernel, rom yada yada mucked around with!
I got a little starting lag. It's not that bad but may reach up to one sec.
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Nope, on SGS2, you get wake up lag with all voltages and all speed settings. It's the time the kernel wakes the modem up and it can't be changed because it's designed that way.
The video is interesting, but I'm not sure it gives an idea about wake up lag. In the beginning, the guy doesn't give the phone enough time to go to deep sleep, so it doesn't count. In 2:22, he turns off the phone with video playing in the background, so the phone doesn't sleep either.
I wish there would be a video where someone wakes the phone from deep sleep and we can see if there is a lag or not. Most weaknesses corrected by flashing CM9 or AOKP, but this one is a hardware problem, and I'm never buying another phone with this kind of lag.
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Power Saver - Try it

I don't know if anyone has tried this yet, but after I have tested it for almost a full work day I can say it's definitely worth using..
Try this: After you completely charge your phone, turn on Power Saver (make sure all options are checked in settings)
Leave it on, don't turn it off, for the entire day.
I had absolutely no slow down.. no problem receiving timely texts/notifications.. the only thing that is a minor annoyance is that screen brightness stays low no matter what, so if you view your screen in full sunlight a lot this will not be for you.. otherwise, HOLY CRAP this makes your phone literally sip power all day.
9 hrs 21 mins 44 secs since I unplugged my phone this morning and I have 63% battery left!
That's roughly 3.96% battery drain per hour!!
This means I will get something like 24-25 hours before I hit zero.. this is with using the phone like normal, where I would normally need to charge after about 16 hours.
Insane. Best battery life I've ever had on a stock phone, and yes I know those monstrosities like the Note 2 can go longer (huge battery..) or if you want to tweak your phone with custom kernels, etc.
But daaaamn I have to say I am impressed.
Leaving Power Saver on from now on!
Btw I should add this is without Wi-Fi, in a LTE area that bounces from LTE to HSPA a lot.. WiFi left on but never connecting to a router
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Also, I do have sleep mode on in settings
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Update. Battery running down a little faster while on my home Wi-Fi watching videos and surfing the net. Don't think I'll make it 24 hours but I am using the phone pretty heavy. I've also noticed that the auto brightness seems to be working overtime whereas it never budged during the day. Tomorrow I'll set my brightness manually to stay at ~30% and turn off the screen option in power saver. See if that yields even better results. So far it appears auto brightness is a power consumer on this phone. We'll see if I'm right tomorrow. I'm at 23% at 14hrs 21mins
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I should add that normally I would have charged the phone by now for about two hours since I do most of my heavy usage at night, and when I get home from work I'm already at 20%. But when I've let it run down almost all the way it's been an average of about 15-16 hours
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OK so today I kept Power Saver on, but unchecked the "screen" option so that I the screen would adjust as normal to the ambient light conditions. I am finding that the power consumption is essentially the same, very minor change. I now believe that it is Wi-Fi that was causing a quicker drain than LTE/HSPA does, simply because Power Saver does not include an option to cut the Wi-Fi connection when the screen is off.
I will change my Wi-Fi settings to sleep when screen is off and see if that keeps the battery draining at the same slow pace when I am at home connected to my router. I'll try that tonight. If that works successfully, I should get an easy 20 hours + from one charge with normal use (including my evening usage which is heavier usage).
Last night I hit 18 hours and 22 minutes before plugging in at 12% remaining battery without changing the Wi-Fi sleep setting. Hopefully this will be the last test necessary to find the best set up for longer battery life.
Feel free to chime in if anyone else is testing this!
I haven't test the difference between Power Saving and normal. I put Power Saving On in the morning right after a full charge.
I have medium usage for about 20 minutes in the morning using wifi. (It would drop to about 94%). I then turn off wifi and mobile and by 1pm, I have about 82%-88%. I would have about 20 minute usage on mobile data during lunch (flux between 3g, H and rarely LTE). By the time I leave work, it's around 74%. This is when I turn off power saving since I'm usually heading home. Another 20 minutes of medium to heavy usage over H/LTE when on the subway. By the time I get home, it's around 70%. After this, it takes at least about an hour of heavy activity to drain it down to 50% off power saving.
I have the 64 GB Developer Edition and running ARHD 12.1 with the latest T-Mobile Radio.
I've always left power saver on at all times and don't notice any slowdown. One exception is that I don't enable power saver on the screen as it's damn near impossible to see the screen outside. I get pretty damn good battery life on stock rom. Over 3 hrs screen on time in 24 hr period of half mobile data and half wifi.
For enabling and disabling wifi automatically, I use the app wifi matic and it's worked well.
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I can easily say the dim screen option is completely unnecessary. Everything is working perfectly, there's no slowdown whatsoever. Even set keep Wi-Fi awake to never. Phone flies, and honestly the data connectivity is ten times better with power saver on. Without it, I would see my phone jump to 2G in a moment of bad coverage and then take FOREVER to reconnect to LTE or HSPA. Now when I unlock my phone it's instantly connected, as if a radio refresh is instant on power saver but laggy as hell without it. I'm very pleased.
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I had absolutely no slow down.. no problem receiving timely texts/notifications..
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Just thinking out loud here...
I don't see how with the data connection off you could have "no problem receiving timely...notifications." What "notifications" are you talking about not missing? Are you saying you actually got cloud-service-based notifications while the phone was sleeping?
Texts/SMS of course would still come in because they don't travel over the data connection, they travel over the voice network.
Email, twitter, etc., they shouldn't get their notifications since that stuff travels over the data connection.
Google Voice users (like me), would miss out on their text messages since those travel over the data connection.
I'll need to test this some. Maybe with the data connection turned off via this setting, the phone actually periodically fires it up to check for notifications, or responds to apps requesting a quick data connection to pull notifications.
UPDATE: Hmmm...turned on power saver, turned on the data disconnect option, put phone to sleep by pressing power button. Waited a minute. Sent myself a google voice # text message and the phone buzzed immediately. Very curious.
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Just thinking out loud here...
I don't see how with the data connection off you could have "no problem receiving timely...notifications." What "notifications" are you talking about not missing? Are you saying you actually got cloud-service-based notifications while the phone was sleeping?
Texts/SMS of course would still come in because they don't travel over the data connection, they travel over the voice network.
Email, twitter, etc., they shouldn't get their notifications since that stuff travels over the data connection.
Google Voice users (like me), would miss out on their text messages since those travel over the data connection.
I'll need to test this some. Maybe with the data connection turned off via this setting, the phone actually periodically fires it up to check for notifications, or responds to apps requesting a quick data connection to pull notifications.
UPDATE: Hmmm...turned on power saver, turned on the data disconnect option, put phone to sleep by pressing power button. Waited a minute. Sent myself a google voice # text message and the phone buzzed immediately. Very curious.
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I was confused about that same thing. I think it only turns off your data if you havent touched your phone in a while.
If I turn it off, put it down, and pick it up 5 mins later, the data is still connected.
If I turn it off and its in my pocket for an hour, I take it out, the data service is usually trying to reconnect.
I have to admit the way HTC implemented their power saver is impressive. It literally does not delay a single notification. Facebook, Gmail, Hangouts, Scramble with Friends, anything that is set up to notify me works without a hitch. Everything is instant.. compare this to "power saver" mode on the Galaxy line which pretty much cripples the phone.
There is NO reason whatsoever to not have Power Saver turned on with the HTC One. Best implementation ever.
I've had no delays even after not touching the phone for a solid hour. Still get them.
Nippero said:
I was confused about that same thing. I think it only turns off your data if you havent touched your phone in a while.
If I turn it off, put it down, and pick it up 5 mins later, the data is still connected.
If I turn it off and its in my pocket for an hour, I take it out, the data service is usually trying to reconnect.
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Okay, a little google search reveals the secret behind the data connection magic:
If you want to choose which phone features to conserve power for, tap the Power saver notification first before you turn power saver mode on.
Note: If Data connection is selected, HTC One X automatically disconnects from the mobile network after 15 minutes when it's in sleep mode and the data connection is idle (no download activity, streaming, or data usage). It reconnects and then disconnects periodically when the data connection is idle to save battery power.​
This is from the HTC One X support site, but the same quote is on many of the devices, but oddly not our HTC One. I think it's safe to assume it's the same for our device, whether published or not.
ingenious247 said:
I have to admit the way HTC implemented their power saver is impressive. It literally does not delay a single notification. Facebook, Gmail, Hangouts, Scramble with Friends, anything that is set up to notify me works without a hitch. Everything is instant.. compare this to "power saver" mode on the Galaxy line which pretty much cripples the phone.
There is NO reason whatsoever to not have Power Saver turned on with the HTC One. Best implementation ever.
I've had no delays even after not touching the phone for a solid hour. Still get them.
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My phone's been untouched for an hour or so, and I just sent it a Google Voice text message. Buzzed instantly, and in light of my above research, it looks like you're correct. I'm certainly going to run with this setting on for a day or two at least for further testing. I only have CPU and data enabled in the settings. My testing the next few days may not be the best, as I'll likely be on wi-fi most of the time, although I could turn wi-fi setting to disconnect wi-fi when sleeping.
I've been using that Qualcomm Snapdragon battery guru app, and Greenify on my phone, so it gets damned good battery all things considered anyways, and I also am not afraid to go on charger during the day, but every little bit helps.
Just a few comments on the power saver:
I've noticed that power saver doesn't disconnect the background data immediately... it does it after a longer interval of non-usage.
Otherwise, it's great. I'm not sure if it's the screen dimming or the underclocking, but it really makes a definite difference in the battery life. I also turn it on for a lot of games (cough, dead space) and it helps keep the phone cooler while gaming.
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Just a few comments on the power saver:
I've noticed that power saver doesn't disconnect the background data immediately... it does it after a longer interval of non-usage.
Otherwise, it's great. I'm not sure if it's the screen dimming or the underclocking, but it really makes a definite difference in the battery life. I also turn it on for a lot of games (cough, dead space) and it helps keep the phone cooler while gaming.
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Not the screen dimming, because I don't use that option.
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FYI, it underclocks the CPU so the max is about 1.2ghz; When using Faux Control App, I toggled the Power Saver from the notification and can see it go down to about 1.2 ghz when "On" and when switched off my CPU clock maxes out back to 2ghz.
LBN1 said:
FYI, it underclocks the CPU so the max is about 1.2ghz; When using Faux Control App, I toggled the Power Saver from the notification and can see it go down to about 1.2 ghz when "On" and when switched off my CPU clock maxes out back to 2ghz.
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Yeah I figure that would be the clock speed, but I haven't suffered any loss of performance which is amazing to me.
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ingenious247 said:
I have to admit the way HTC implemented their power saver is impressive. It literally does not delay a single notification. Facebook, Gmail, Hangouts, Scramble with Friends, anything that is set up to notify me works without a hitch. Everything is instant.. compare this to "power saver" mode on the Galaxy line which pretty much cripples the phone.
There is NO reason whatsoever to not have Power Saver turned on with the HTC One. Best implementation ever.
I've had no delays even after not touching the phone for a solid hour. Still get them.
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I can also concur to this fact; since day one of owning this phone I've had power saver on permanently set and I've never experienced performance issues like in other phones, its been smooth, and helpful. The amount of usage I submit my phone to in one day its enough to make any other phone live permanently connected to the charger, and I get at least 1.5 days of juice.
I agree, HTC did a good job with their power saver mode.
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ingenious247 said:
9 hrs 21 mins 44 secs since I unplugged my phone this morning and I have 63% battery left!
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6 hrs 23 mins 3 secs since i unplugged it and still have 82% without using PowerSafer. switching between very low LTE and very good hspa all the time and i'm using it quiet often checking facebook, twitter, mails, whatsapp and news.
The only Powersaving App I installed is "Wifi-Matic" wich turns on Wifi only if i'm connected to a specific radio station. Check in to your wlan one time and it will safe the radio stations around. if you aren't connect to this stations it will disable Wifi by itself. Works great for me! (Checking radiostations every 15 mins).
This means for me loosing 2,889% every hour without dimming the screen or something else
Give it a try and compare
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6 hrs 23 mins 3 secs since i unplugged it and still have 82% without using PowerSafer. switching between very low LTE and very good hspa all the time and i'm using it quiet often checking facebook, twitter, mails, whatsapp and news.
The only Powersaving App I installed is "Wifi-Matic" wich turns on Wifi only if i'm connected to a specific radio station. Check in to your wlan one time and it will safe the radio stations around. if you aren't connect to this stations it will disable Wifi by itself. Works great for me! (Checking radiostations every 15 mins).
This means for me loosing 2,889% every hour without dimming the screen or something else
Give it a try and compare
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How about you try that, with power saver on as well, and report back?
Besides, if you're barely using your phone at all, then yes it will be saving power with sleep mode alone. All I know is I have several friends who move in and out of bad reception/data areas, and now their battery is lasting a whole heck of a lot longer using power saver. It sounds like what you're using is somewhat of a power saver as well.. but you are in a good coverage area too so it's hard to say.
Btw, my figures were with Wifi always on - never switched off, ever.. and I still had greatly extended battery life.

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