im not sayin that flashing roms isnt a big part of the xda community but with all the upgrades to the evo 3d i think just being able to use the wireless thether app for free tethering would be good enough for me. Dose anyone else feel like this or do you want full ROOT
You need to read around a little bit before starting it a new thread.
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I hate to say it, but I kind of have to agree with both of you lol
yeah, it would probablybe fine for about 4- 6 months or so...but then when a new os version came out say like ice cream and you are still on GB and cant do anything about it...then it would get annoying
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im not sayin that flashing roms isnt a big part of the xda community but with all the upgrades to the evo 3d i think just being able to use the wireless thether app for free tethering would be good enough for me. Dose anyone else feel like this or do you want full ROOT
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I could care less about that, af least if you you want to tether bad enough you could still pay for it. Its the ROMs and kernels that I want!
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You need to read around a little bit before starting it a new thread.
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I know htc is sayin the phone wont be locked down but ill believe it when i see it.....also is it possuble to post anything on here without getting a smart ass comment lol
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im not sayin that flashing roms isnt a big part of the xda community but with all the upgrades to the evo 3d i think just being able to use the wireless thether app for free tethering would be good enough for me. Dose anyone else feel like this or do you want full ROOT
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When I first left from my Palm Pre, all I cared about was still being able to wireless tether on the road... A few months later, I viewed the forums, and seen leaks of froyo months before HTC put out an official update.... Ever since then I've been a flash-o-holic. I didn't know how open the Android platform was until I had all these options of different builds...... lets not forget the FPS cap that HTC said was because of the hdmi port, that was fix thanks to the community.
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im not sayin that flashing roms isnt a big part of the xda community but with all the upgrades to the evo 3d i think just being able to use the wireless thether app for free tethering would be good enough for me. Dose anyone else feel like this or do you want full ROOT
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So let me get this straight, you don't care at all about HTC unlocking devices to make them open and customizable, you just want them to assist you in being a thief to steal a $30 service from Sprint. Got it!
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So let me get this straight, you don't care at all about HTC unlocking devices to make them open and customizable, you just want them to assist you in being a thief to steal a $30 service from Sprint. Got it!
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many of us feel tethering should be included in your data plan. Even with an unlocked bootloader they can still stop tethering, look at at&t. as i posted before, its all about the roms and kernels for me. tether is just a nice bonus. over the past year i've only used it once.
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Not to start a war, but it really doesn't matter how you feel. They offer a pay service, and you are using it for free. I feel Ford Mustangs should be free, that doesn't mean I can drive one off the lot without paying for it.
Frankly, Its more important to me that I'm able to remove bloatware from my phone than anything else... but to get deeper into it, carrier updates or not, custom ROMS tend to give a new tech fix making me not have to dish out hundreds of dollars every few months.
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Frankly, Its more important to me that I'm able to remove bloatware from my phone than anything else... but to get deeper into it, carrier updates or not, custom ROMS tend to give a new tech fix making me not have to dish out hundreds of dollars every few months.
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agreed...i have had an evo for a little bit over a year, had many roms. I was using the same rom for a few months and just switched over to a new one and i feel like I am going to miss my evo when i get the 3d because it feels brand new
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I dont feel as if its stealing. Hell i tethered from my treo and blackberry for free. When the evo was 1st being marketed they highlighted the fact it could be used as a mobile hotspot but failed to tell you they were now gona start charging a monthly fee. Fee? For what? You pay monthly to have web access on your phone. Whats it hurting to allow you to hook a laptop or gaming system to your phone. And it seems they only do this to 4g phones. Well i live in baltimore the 1st city they did the wimax with and let me say im sittin at the inner harbor right now and well my friend with his new tmobile sidekick has 4g and my friend with his verizon phone has 4g but guess who dosent. The guy with the evo. Me! Sprint can shove that 4g up there ass. I understand how important flashing rom is im not even gona be stupid enough to debate that on the xda forum. I was just simply askin if the upgrades alone were enough to make you look past flashing rom
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agreed...i have had an evo for a little bit over a year, had many roms. I was using the same rom for a few months and just switched over to a new one and i feel like I am going to miss my evo when i get the 3d because it feels brand new
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I like your enthusiasm, but trust me, you haven't had your Evo for a little bit over a year.
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I like your enthusiasm, but trust me, you haven't had your Evo for a little bit over a year.
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Why do you doubt that? thousands of people have had them for well over a year. Hundreds of those got to ebay before this date last year.
Where the I/O models out by now? Time is flying way to fast.
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Where the I/O models out by now? Time is flying way to fast.
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by a week or more if I recall correctly.
Yeah...as you get older you notice that time flies, then it flies faster, then faster. When you were 1 year old the next year was 50% of your life. When you are 29 the next year is a 30th of your life. Our perception doesn't seem to keep up as well as it should...sigh
anyway, bring on the evo3d.
free tethering is something I'm really looking forward too
Stop tethering you thieves...
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Not to start a war, but it really doesn't matter how you feel. They offer a pay service, and you are using it for free. I feel Ford Mustangs should be free, that doesn't mean I can drive one off the lot without paying for it.
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Wow, great example. Because I'm using my unlimited data plan in a way that gives me the same access to the same network but on my computer, I'm driving away a new Ford for free. The scale is different, the content is different, and the point is missed completely.
Look, people aren't "supposed" to mod their engines to accept different mixes of gasoline, but they do anyway. In so doing, they run the risk of damaging their car... but also others on the road when they crash. Rooting threatens only the rooter (and in fact likely makes the company money when the customer has to buy a new one, while the old one can simply be factory-wiped and reconditioned). Using your internet as unlimited, not tiered, throttled, or restricted nonsense (according to their very own commercials, btw), you're doing what you really "should" have every right to do.
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Guess ill just be waiting for the Galaxy S II.
http://androidpolice.com/2011/05/24...r-recovery-and-kernel-images-all-locked-down/
Shouldn't this be on evo 3D forums insted? Lol
For everyone else here is the link
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Lol
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Well, looks like I will be sticking with the O.G. Evo. This is very disappointing.
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Guess ill just be waiting for the Galaxy S II.
http://dev.androidpolice.com/2011/0...r-recovery-and-kernel-images-all-locked-down/
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I was thinking about getting the Evo 3D. But after reading this, I'm gonna just stay with my Nexus S 4G.
Lame. May as well get an iPhone. Wont be getting an EVO the next time around I guess.
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Just lost respect for HTC. Smh
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While this is bad news for us, how many people are actually going to be able to sit back and not run to the store to purchase this phone the day it is released.
If enough people had the will power to stay away maybe it would send a message to HTC, but I don't think we have that kind of will power. To add to that, I believe the EVO and now the EVO 3d sell extrememly well to people who have no idea what rooting even means and just enjoy the phone for what it is.
I still think we are in the minority when it comes to these things.....So the sales numbers will let HTC know if this has any effect on it but I say the EVO 3d still sells strong.
Won't be for long lol someone will get in and do all sorts of good.
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Guess ill just be waiting for the Galaxy S II.
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Likewise
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While this is bad news for us, how many people are actually going to be able to sit back and not run to the store to purchase this phone the day it is released.
If enough people had the will power to stay away maybe it would send a message to HTC, but I don't think we have that kind of will power. To add to that, I believe the EVO and now the EVO 3d sell extrememly well to people who have no idea what rooting even means and just enjoy the phone for what it is.
I still think we are in the minority when it comes to these things.....
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I agree but we can make a impact none the less still blows though ill wait for the next Google phone
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Meh, I've noticed recently that stock seems to perform better than most/all custom ROMs anyway. Perhaps this way I'll spend less time messing around with my phone... As long as I can get partial root to remove bloatware I'll be fine and I'm confident this wont be an issue.
On another note, I think this statement is BS: "It seems HTC has finally caved to what are likely the security demands of wireless carriers with its newest phones, and is locking down its handsets Moto-style..."
It has yet to be confirmed that bootloaders are being locked at the request of carriers. The argument against tethering is invalid because full root is not required to run root access wireless tethering apps. I think this is solely the decision of manufacturers- why they are making this decision, I don't know...
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Shouldn't this be on evo 3D forums insted? Lol
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Umm, after news like that, I expct it to be a little uhh echo-y in those forums . Unless someone wants to flex their signed bootloader cracking skills in there.
I am still getting this device day one. If I decide I can't live without full root then I'll return it and wait for something else. Can't lose with Sprint's 30 day satisfaction guarantee.
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I still think we are in the minority when it comes to these things.....So the sales numbers will let HTC know if this has any effect on it but I say the EVO 3d still sells strong.
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I agree 100%, but this doesn't change the fact that htc is telling an entire committed of supportive (and vocal) customers to go stick it unnecessarily. While they don't care if they lose my business, I am disappointed in them and will likely end up going with another manufacturer.
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So ultimately what does this mean to the layman? Will it just take longer for full root to become available?
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So ultimately what does this mean to the layman? Will it just take longer for full root to become available?
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If its anything like the droids - you'll eventual have root if theres a exploit but full custom kernels are thrown out the window, so are full custom roms. All you'll have is minor superficial modifications to the official ROM. That means that you'll only taste a new version of Android if HTC/Sprint officially releases it for the 3D. That also means no CM, no MIUI, no ported ROMs.
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If its anything like the droids - you'll eventual have root if theres a exploit but full custom kernels are thrown out the window, so are full custom roms. All you'll have is minor superficial modifications to the official ROM. That means that you'll only taste a new version of Android if HTC/Sprint officially releases it for the 3D.
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Well that just made my decision easier. Hello Galaxy S II.
Preordered and disappointed. SgsII
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derekfaircloth said:
I know some of you bought more than one and I am hoping someone will sell me one. I wont go into details but I am unemployed due to medical issues and I am waiting to get on disability. I am struggling and have no income and even at $99 I can't afford one but my mother said she would get it for me as an early bday gift. I want this for my kids mainly because due to my financial problems I have had to pawn things for extra money part of which was our laptop and ps3. I don't need your pity and please do not flame me for posting this. I am just hoping someone will help me out so I can give something to my kids to replace things I pawned. To anyone that can help i thank you very much and if nothing else say a little prayer for me and my family. It has been tough but God will see us through. Please pm me if you can help
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Hey, I am in a similar financial state (employed but not making a ton and owe more than I can afford because of student loans). Praying for ya man.
Thank you. Means a lot and I mean that brother
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derekfaircloth said:
I know some of you bought more than one and I am hoping someone will sell me one. I wont go into details but I am unemployed due to medical issues and I am waiting to get on disability. I am struggling and have no income and even at $99 I can't afford one but my mother said she would get it for me as an early bday gift. I want this for my kids mainly because due to my financial problems I have had to pawn things for extra money part of which was our laptop and ps3. I don't need your pity and please do not flame me for posting this. I am just hoping someone will help me out so I can give something to my kids to replace things I pawned. To anyone that can help i thank you very much and if nothing else say a little prayer for me and my family. It has been tough but God will see us through. Please pm me if you can help
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Derek Faircloth
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I don't buy your **** for a second. Get off xda and get on craigslist. Also if your waiting on disability then get a job..... you're effing up our economy. My back hurts too. Work!
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Add an annoying whining voice to this post. "Owwwwwww..... I can hardly type this and the welfare building is down the street but does anyone have a tablet my MOM can buy for me? I'm only 43"
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Just my opinion, but if you can't afford $99 for a TouchPad you probably shouldn't be paying for a monthly data plan on your EVO 3D. Sorry, but just sayin'...
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Wow some people are heartless. Even if that's how you feel keep your comments to yourself. Smh
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I'm re reading this. You pawned your kids ps3? Shame on you!
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gmfeny said:
Wow some people are heartless. Even if that's how you feel keep your comments to yourself. Smh
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Heartless? Or hard working Americans paying taxes and busting their balls to make ends meet?. Then see someone sell their kids ps3 for a tablet for their own pleasure? Piss off!
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derekfaircloth said:
I know some of you bought more than one and I am hoping someone will sell me one. I wont go into details but I am unemployed due to medical issues and I am waiting to get on disability. I am struggling and have no income and even at $99 I can't afford one but my mother said she would get it for me as an early bday gift. I want this for my kids mainly because due to my financial problems I have had to pawn things for extra money part of which was our laptop and ps3. I don't need your pity and please do not flame me for posting this. I am just hoping someone will help me out so I can give something to my kids to replace things I pawned. To anyone that can help i thank you very much and if nothing else say a little prayer for me and my family. It has been tough but God will see us through. Please pm me if you can help
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Derek Faircloth
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Go on Ebay, you can find a Tablet, won't be a Touchpad but you can score one for $99 and there a few for less. Or craigslist....otherwise you are **** out of luck. I wanted a Touchpad too, I'm even on a list to be notified when they will have them available again but I am not counting on it so I just got one off of Ebay for $99.
Looks like you have a Evo 3D, so sell that , you can proably get $300-400 for it.
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Just my opinion, but if you can't afford $99 for a TouchPad you probably shouldn't be paying for a monthly data plan on your EVO 3D. Sorry, but just sayin'...
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So there is no possibility he is on WiFi right? You all are pathetic. No wonder so many only come to xda when they absolutely need to.
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Yeah, if you are having financial problems, you really don't need a touchpad or a phone that isn't just barebones. I mean, 99 dollars can buy a lot of food. If you can afford the phone and touchpad, you must not be hurting that much.
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So there is no possibility he is on WiFi right? You all are pathetic. No wonder so many only come to xda when they absolutely need to.
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He "pawned" his kids ps3!
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Just my opinion, but if you can't afford $99 for a TouchPad you probably shouldn't be paying for a monthly data plan on your EVO 3D. Sorry, but just sayin'...
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This is exactly what went through my head. It's not about not feeling bad for someone during a hard time, but pawning off your stuff for money, while still paying a $105/month phone bill just seems ridiculous. When I was without a job, I didnt have a phone, or I used a virgin mobile phone with "top up cards". I can't fathom helping someone, when it appears that they're unwilling to help themselves...especially with kids
Man up and get your priorities straight. Good luck with the job hunt
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So there is no possibility he is on WiFi right? You all are pathetic. No wonder so many only come to xda when they absolutely need to.
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So he bought the phone outright? Theres $500 well spent...
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Yeah, if you are having financial problems, you really don't need a touchpad or a phone that isn't just barebones. I mean, 99 dollars can buy a lot of food. If you can afford the phone and touchpad, you must not be hurting that much.
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Thinking you should re read the op cause his mom said she would buy it therefore making your statement false.
I am a loving father and husband but I would sell off all luxury items to pay anything needed I don't care if its their ps3. I didn't have that growing up and they can do without to gets us through a rough patch. He said he wanted it to replace those items for the kids. Why do you all go out of you Damn way to flame a guy you don't even know. Why are you so quick to judge? I am a honest hard working American myself but if I needed to go on disability guess what I would do it and you know why because I am a honest hard working American. I can't believe what xda has become. If you question someone's integrity move on to the next thread where I'm sure you all will find something else to give someone crap about.
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Derekfaircloth ..... don't post again on xda. Our phones and tablets are luxuries .... and in this point of your life, you only have needs. Put bread on the table... then worry about tablets! You sold your kids ps3?
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This is exactly what went through my head. It's not about not feeling bad for someone during a hard time, but pawning off your stuff for money, while still paying a $105/month phone bill just seems ridiculous. When I was without a job, I didnt have a phone, or I used a virgin mobile phone with "top up cards". I can't fathom helping someone, when it appears that they're unwilling to help themselves...especially with kids
Man up and get your priorities straight. Good luck with the job hunt
So he bought the phone outright? Theres $500 well spent...
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You know whether or not his service is cut off for not paying the bill? Do you actually know what's going on in this man's life? If you went through some **** and came here posted this whole heartedly would you want to be treated like this by people assuming when in reality they know nothing about your situation
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Thinking you should re read the op cause his mom said she would buy it therefore making your statement false.
I am a loving father and husband but I would sell off all luxury items to pay anything needed I don't care if its their ps3. I didn't have that growing up and they can do without to gets us through a rough patch. He said he wanted it to replace those items for the kids. Why do you all go out of you Damn way to flame a guy you don't even know. Why are you so quick to judge? I am a honest hard working American myself but if I needed to go on disability guess what I would do it and you know why because I am a honest hard working American. I can't believe what xda has become. If you question someone's integrity move on to the next thread where I'm sure you all will find something else to give someone crap about.
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You may be a slow DADDY. Yes disability is good DADDY.... but toys that you don't need aren't good in a time of crisis. Especially when you sold your kids toys to pay for a back or headache ..... don't know if that's what op did????? Just saying.... stop selling your kids toys to get yours!
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You know whether or not his service is cut off for not paying the bill? Do you actually know what's going on in this man's life? If you went through some **** and came here posted this whole heartedly would you want to be treated like this by people assuming when in reality they know nothing about your situation
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If his situation has been so bad over the past year or even only a few months, that he is selling off his and his kids things (reguardless of wanting to attempt to replace them or not) then why buy one of the most expensive phones on the market? I too work (60 hours a week) very hard at my job to provide the life that my family deserves. But if I wasn't capable, I sure as hell wouldn't be looking for sympathy/handouts in regards to one of the most sought after items in recent history.
I'm not trying to judge anyone, nor do I know his situation specifically, however, life is tough, you've got to work for what you got. I never said he wasn't truly injured, or abusing the system, or any of that nature, but simply stating that priorities need to be evaluated here, clearly.
You can act high and mighty, and judge me about not caring about, or having sympathy to this particular person, nor people in general, and you'd probably be right. What I've got, I made happen. The things I own, I bought myself. The place I am in life, good or bad, I put myself here. I've had nothing handed to me. I've lived in the streets, I've been poor, but guess what, I got my **** together and got to where I am today. You and this guy can go elsewhere, this is a cell phone discussion board, not a damn soup kitchen
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You may be a slow DADDY. Yes disability is good DADDY.... but toys that you don't need aren't good in a time of crisis. Especially when you sold your kids toys to pay for a back or headache ..... don't know if that's what op did????? Just saying.... stop selling your kids toys to get yours!
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Uh what? My 6 year old can type something that makes more sense.
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The last few days have been very slow in this forum. I hope people are just satisfied with the phone and are not posting. I guess I'm just spoiled by the Evo 4g forum where you always had something new to read.
Starting to worry.
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Not even one thread has reached a 1000 posts yet. Its pretty sad. I know people keep saying good things will come, but I lost hope a while ago. Not trolling. I know everyone does this development stuff during their free time
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For me - I love the phone. Only thing I'd change would be placement of the USB port relative to the kickstand.
I've rooted it to remove bloatware, but don't know that there's anything that I want it do to that requires a custom ROM. Customizations, yes - but launchers, widgets and apps can do what I want.
I was in the same place with my EVO 3D. Stock was fine.
ROMs were necessary in the WinMo days (and perhaps the early Android days, though I missed those). I spent a LOT of time cooking kitchens for my WinMo phones.
There will always be people who like to cook ROMs as a hobby, but I knew that the Moto Photon would NOT be one of the target platform for them - will be mostly HTC phones, I imagine.
Well unlike my evo shift I'm happy with the phone the way it is. The evo shift was boring unless rooted and running a custom rom.
I love this phone and i'm satisfied with just root. Best phone I've ever owned. It just seems like there were a lot more people in this forum last month.
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mquinn24 said:
I love this phone and i'm satisfied with just root. Best phone I've ever owned. It just seems like there were a lot more people in this forum last month.
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It was brand new then
The inferior Samsung is the new shiny.
I also spent more time here and AC a month ago, but really don't have much more to say, or problems that need solved. I'm spending my time now customizing it and try out new apps.
Enjoy it!
Love this phone but its too complicated to unlock boot loader and such so people lost interest in the forums, not the phone in my opinion. I came from the Nexus S 4G and don't see a reason to lose 4g for a rom its great as it is running launcher pro. Just my 2 cents.
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The inferior Samsung is the new shiny
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Yea I don't think the epic touch is inferior at all. The exynos kills tegra. Everyone knows that
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Photon was a great phone, its great with root alone. I now got the sgs2 and gave the MoPho to my gf. She loves it coming from an HTC Aria. I was too nervous to unlock the bootloader, I tried but it looked too risky. I was pretty much satisfied with stock and my own build prop tweaks, there was no need to unlock. I do recommend to phone to people who aren't as tech savvy for just being a good dependable fast phone.
The sgs2 is no way inferior to the photon, every day use they run about the same, the photon does have better battery life and video recording, the sgs2 has a bigger screen and an unlocked bootloader.
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Yea I don't think the epic touch is inferior at all. The exynos kills tegra. Everyone knows that
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CPU is only one component in comparing phones, and IMHO not in the top 3 criteria. Screen, battery, radio signal, construction quality, vendor support all more important than minor (in the real world) CPU differences.
I won't get into any more bashing - will just say glad you like your phone; enjoy it!
I think my Photon is the best Android phone i've ever owned and I've had a few over the past couple of months, including the SGSII. The SGSII is a great phone but just too thin for me, so when on a flat surface my manley fingers couldn't quite grasp it right and i ended up dropping it. The Photon just feels perfect, build quality is great, just ticks all the boxes for me and I'm gonna stick with it for a while
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I know it may seem to be kinda hard, but unlocking the bootloader is actually fairly easy if you follow the steps on breifmobile. I have a link I think if someone is looking to unlock the bootloader.
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I know it may seem to be kinda hard, but unlocking the bootloader is actually fairly easy if you follow the steps on breifmobile. I have a link I think if someone is looking to unlock the bootloader.
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But you lose 4G
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Makes no difference to me. I don't live in a 4G area. :]
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Makes no difference to me. I don't live in a 4G area. :]
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Same
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Phone is great out of the box, not much to complain about on forums nor are people in a rush to slap a ROM on it like they would need to so their Samsung works correctly.
I came from the tmobile vibrant. At one point I had a choice of 65 custom roms and 11 kernels. I wanted unlimited data and more minutes and sprint was the only choice. I got the epic but took it back the day this phone dropped on the market. I like htc but 3d had some drawbacks. Mainly signal quality. I would like more roms, but mainly overclock kernels. I am learning to make my own themes and that will probably satisfy me. I hope development picks up, but if it doesn't I won't be upset. This is a wonderful phone and works right out of the box. I don't get 4g on my end of town and probably never will, and I could really care less.
It's good to see people are still here and they are satisfied with their phones. This is probably the best phone Sprint has to offer right now. It sucks that it was released sandwiched between the 3vo and sgsII.
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why does no one listen to me? i said weeks ago that what we had was the best this community was gunna get, with the release of the et4g i knew this place with die down a bit.. its unfortunate but thats the way it is. perhaps the next moto phone that sprint gets (tegra 3 plz ) will get some attention, instead of sprint getting another phone months later (they did it with the nexus s 4g, photon and if the rumors are true it will happen with the next nexus)
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Makes no difference to me. I don't live in a 4G area. :]
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Haha unfortunately I get full signal in my area :/
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I am getting my son a shooter for Christmas. Fingers crossed that it comes with hboot 1.4. Anyone buy one recently that wasn't updated to 1.5 or 1.6?
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I am getting my son a shooter for Christmas. Fingers crossed that it comes with hboot 1.4. Anyone buy one recently that wasn't updated to 1.5 or 1.6?
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Instead of answering that question I would like to offer advice instead. There are a lot of people on Ebay that are selling used devices that are in mint condition, and have all the box, documentation, and what not, you could message each seller to find out what hboot it is. Obviously most of them will need to be told how to find that out for you.
The benefit of this is a cheaper buy, and you get what you want and your son won't know it isn't brand new, or be able to explain to him why you had to go that route. I think unless you are getting refurbished (and not even then sometimes) will you get hboot 1.4.
Hope I helped, cheers!
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Instead of answering that question I would like to offer advice instead. There are a lot of people on Ebay that are selling used devices that are in mint condition, and have all the box, documentation, and what not, you could message each seller to find out what hboot it is. Obviously most of them will need to be told how to find that out for you.
The benefit of this is a cheaper buy, and you get what you want and your son won't know it isn't brand new, or be able to explain to him why you had to go that route. I think unless you are getting refurbished (and not even then sometimes) will you get hboot 1.4.
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I have an upgrade as of December 1st and radio shack has the 3D on sale for $100 with a 2 year extension. I can't really beat that price on eBay. If it comes with hboot 1.5 its not really a big deal, just more of a hassle. I just have to read up on flashing using fastboot. If anything I will learn something new. Thanks for your input though.
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Unless you just get extremely lucky, a new 3D, purchased from a brick and mortar store, or even online, from the same stores, will have hboot 1.5 on it. It looks like TeamEvil is close to having an S-OFF solution for the 1.5 hboot, so it might not matter what Hboot you have soon. No watermarked bootloader for me, thank you very much.
hboot 1.50 here, no biggie, not really a issue for ME. I have watermarked bootloader, blah blah blah. lol
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I have an upgrade as of December 1st and radio shack has the 3D on sale for $100 with a 2 year extension. I can't really beat that price on eBay. If it comes with hboot 1.5 its not really a big deal, just more of a hassle. I just have to read up on flashing using fastboot. If anything I will learn something new. Thanks for your input though.
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Yeah you are quite right about that, definitely can't beat that for a new device (the 3D anyhow). Are you going for the 3D for him because of that upgrade price? For slightly more you could upgrade to something better. The 3D is going to die soon in terms of developer support, there aren't that many to begin with but specially with better hardware already out, or coming out soon the 3D while still young, is going to die off.
for that price you cant really beat it... 1.5 is a pain in the ass but it still works fine... maybe consider saving ur upgrade for the next "evo" instead?
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The 3D is going to die soon in terms of developer support
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I don't agree with this 100%. There is a lull in development, though, but mainly because cyanogenmod doesn't have any nightlies for the 3D (I think there's an alpha, but the thread is closed, and I can't find it on goo-inside.me). Also, with ICS just being released, devs are at work making a rom available.
Just look at the evo 4G. It's still going strong 18 months after release. Once CM gets going with CM9, and some more sense 3.5+ roms are leaked, preferably with some Wimax love, we should be seeing more roms.
This is just my opinion, and I could be wrong....so don't take what I say personal
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I don't agree with this 100%. There is a lull in development, though, but mainly because cyanogenmod doesn't have any nightlies for the 3D (I think there's an alpha, but the thread is closed, and I can't find it on goo-inside.me). Also, with ICS just being released, devs are at work making a rom available.
Just look at the evo 4G. It's still going strong 18 months after release. Once CM gets going with CM9, and some more sense 3.5+ roms are leaked, preferably with some Wimax love, we should be seeing more roms.
This is just my opinion, and I could be wrong....so don't take what I say personal
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That is a possibility, I do agree we will see a little more developer activity with sense 3.5, ICS, cm being used as a base when it is more complete, etc. however I meant things a little differently. While the 3D isn't the least popular device among users or developers it hasn't had the type of device that has received extraordinary development that a lot of other devices have even from the beginning of its release. The 4g started out so popular because it was a revolutionary device from sprint. The first 4g phone, and several other never before seen features so it started out so popular, and remains relevant because the hardware it has is still relevant. So the 4g was a special case. Aside from being 3D, which is really just a gimmick, the 3D didn't bring any revolutionary hardware or never before seen features to us, so it started out with less interest, and now the hardware is being beat by the latest devices, and devices coming soon. So aside from the things already mentioned that may give a little bump from A SELECT GROUP of developers it will die quickly. After the excitement of ICS and sense 3.5+ wears off the development of it will fade as less and less people still have it and developers get newer, better, more exciting, and popular devices.
Just like you, this is more of my educated guess and perception than fact, but I am willing to bet it is/will be fact soon.
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Yeah you are quite right about that, definitely can't beat that for a new device (the 3D anyhow). Are you going for the 3D for him because of that upgrade price? For slightly more you could upgrade to something better. The 3D is going to die soon in terms of developer support, there aren't that many to begin with but specially with better hardware already out, or coming out soon the 3D while still young, is going to die off.
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I am going with the 3D because that's what he wants. He also said he was interested in the new nexus but I am not really a fan of Samsung. My first android was the moment and that left a bad taste in my mouth. Although I did learn allot about flashing roms and kernels with the POS. It forced me to learn. I would just hold off on my upgrade for the next HTC phone but I dont see one in the near future with the release of the evo design.
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I am going with the 3D because that's what he wants. He also said he was interested in the new nexus but I am not really a fan of Samsung. My first android was the moment and that left a bad taste in my mouth. Although I did learn allot about flashing roms and kernels with the POS. It forced me to learn. I would just hold off on my upgrade for the next HTC phone but I dont see one in the near future with the release of the evo design.
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I'm sorry to hear about your trouble with the Samsung device. If the 3D is what he wants, that's cool. No more explanation needed, I had wondered if this was your decision or his. I hope you get that new evo design soon. Until then, plenty more can be done with the 3D to improve it. It certainly is not a bad phone, I like the hardware, it does what it should do. I definitely think some new software and features would really take things up a notch!
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I am going with the 3D because that's what he wants. He also said he was interested in the new nexus but I am not really a fan of Samsung. My first android was the moment and that left a bad taste in my mouth. Although I did learn allot about flashing roms and kernels with the POS. It forced me to learn. I would just hold off on my upgrade for the next HTC phone but I dont see one in the near future with the release of the evo design.
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Sorry about the moment...you really did pick the worst Samsung device :lol:
Edit: What, we don't have a lol smiley? WTF?!?!
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I'm sorry to hear about your trouble with the Samsung device. If the 3D is what he wants, that's cool. No more explanation needed, I had wondered if this was your decision or his. I hope you get that new evo design soon. Until then, plenty more can be done with the 3D to improve it. It certainly is not a bad phone, I like the hardware, it does what it should do. I definitely think some new software and features would really take things up a notch!
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He didn't really say wich one he wanted more. He wants the nexus because its a google phone and he wants the 3D because of the 3D camera. Personally I wouldn't get the nexus because its a Samsung but if he didn't like the 3D function so much I would get him the nexus.
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Which carrier is your son on now? If he is on Verizon, I'd just stay, and wait for the Nexus, which could be released in the next week and a half. If your son is on Sprint, get the 3D, or even consider the Epic Touch 4G (Galaxy S2). It may be made by Samsung, but it's a far cry from the moment of 2009. I see listings on craigslist, of people wanting to trade their 3D for an Epic Touch 4G all the time (even one made by me....).
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Sorry about the moment...you really did pick the worst Samsung device :lol:
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Yeah I really did pick the worst Samsung device, but in my defense when I bought the moment it had good reviews. I guess it wasn't that bad of a phone considering its still going strong today, minus working GPS.
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Yeah I really did pick the worst Samsung device, but in my defense when I bought the moment it had good reviews. I guess it wasn't that bad of a phone considering its still going strong today, minus working GPS.
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It is ok, you can say it, you hated the piece of **** and you want the engineers that designed it to burn in a Christmas pageant fire. That will keep the topic on point for the holidays lol. The 3D camera is a neat little gimmick, but that's what it is, a gimmick. When glasses free 3D gets to the point of being very widespread, like all devices can display it regardless of being able to capture it, and the brightness, vivid color, and HD resolution comes along then we can consider it too cool to pass up. Even without the 3D, the hardware is still good so hopefully when that excitement wears off he will still be happy with it lol
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It is ok, you can say it, you hated the piece of **** and you want the engineers that designed it to burn in a Christmas pageant fire. That will keep the topic on point for the holidays lol. The 3D camera is a neat little gimmick, but that's what it is, a gimmick. When glasses free 3D gets to the point of being very widespread, like all devices can display it regardless of being able to capture it, and the brightness, vivid color, and HD resolution comes along then we can consider it too cool to pass up. Even without the 3D, the hardware is still good so hopefully when that excitement wears off he will still be happy with it lol
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I think you are right about the 3D feature being a gimmick but besides that I still am very happy to own one. I bought it for the specs not for the 3D. My son doesn't think its a gimmick. He says that's what makes this phone awesome. I will keep mine until HTC comes out with a LTE Evo.
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I got one a month ago from asurion and it was 1.4 alsooooo how old is he? haha
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I got one a month ago from asurion and it was 1.4 alsooooo how old is he? haha
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He is 12
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He is 12
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Lucky kid!
Swyped from mah 3vo!
Ok guys i have been off contract with sprint for like 6 months and I've bought every EVO (Flagships) since the OG. What I exactly is the benefit of buying retail? I remember buying the 3d for $200 like 4 months after release and I bought LTEVO release day for $608 with body glove. The HTCO is an inferior device imo because I know s800 EVO or beast is coming but LTEVO land is pretty much dead. I may be forced to get The One because all the devs are migrating there... So I'm stuck.
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Not dead here man. Not everyone is bouncing to the One. HTCO is not inferior cause s800 won't be out until the end of the year, probably the Verizon "One" will get it but not Sprint, ATT and T-Mo. Sprint lets you upgrade every 18 months nowadays, not as good as 1 yr with Premier but still better than 22 months like the competition.
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Ok guys i have been off contract with sprint for like 6 months and I've bought every EVO (Flagships) since the OG. What I exactly is the benefit of buying retail? I remember buying the 3d for $200 like 4 months after release and I bought LTEVO release day for $608 with body glove. The HTCO is an inferior device imo because I know s800 EVO or beast is coming but LTEVO land is pretty much dead. I may be forced to get The One because all the devs are migrating there... So I'm stuck.
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Dead?.........
Theres like 4 teams working together on sense 5 right now, Jamie just dropped liquid and updated pac, nin still has digital bath and wild for the night with dastin, theres evervolv, cm 10, operation jelly, rootbox, meanbean, thick chad g and flar are all still building kernels, super jelly, viper4g, omj's rom, and others im definitely forgetting and theyre all being actively updated except meanbean.
I hate when people make comments like that when their only contrbutions are discussion and picture posting threads..
+1 for youdug. Development for this device is in high gear. There are a ton of roms in active development, both Sense and AOSP. You want to see a dead phone? Head over to the Optimus G forums. There's nothing going on there despite being a higher-specced phone.
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+1 for youdug. Development for this device is in high gear. There are a ton of roms in active development, both Sense and AOSP. You want to see a dead phone? Head over to the Optimus G forums. There's nothing going on there despite being a higher-specced phone.
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Amen to that!
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Dead?.........
Theres like 4 teams working together on sense 5 right now, Jamie just dropped liquid and updated pac, nin still has digital bath and wild for the night with dastin, theres evervolv, cm 10, operation jelly, rootbox, meanbean, thick chad g and flar are all still building kernels, super jelly, viper4g, omj's rom, and others im definitely forgetting and theyre all being actively updated except meanbean.
I hate when people make comments like that when their only contrbutions are discussion and picture posting threads..
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Well maybe dead was too strong, but idk... I just don't have the motivation. Since Virus left and now Mikey I'm just sitting on Viper. The Sense 5 looks nice, but I rarely flash ports. CMX and all the others AOSP roms are nice... PAC has my interest most, but sound quality kept me from CMX.1 again. I can't stand not having the latest and greatest either. I want the One, but S600 just can't compare with the big beasts like T4 and S800 eventho they aren't released.
Could someone tell me the benefit of buying retail tho?
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Well maybe dead was too strong, but idk... I just don't have the motivation. Since Virus left and now Mikey I'm just sitting on Viper. The Sense 5 looks nice, but I rarely flash ports. CMX and all the others AOSP roms are nice... PAC has my interest most, but sound quality kept me from CMX.1 again. I can't stand not having the latest and greatest either. I want the One, but S600 just can't compare with the big beasts like T4 and S800 eventho they aren't released.
Could someone tell me the benefit of buying retail tho?
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I dont see a benefit. If youre gonna be with sprint for the next two years i say take the subsidized price and sign the contract. You can always cancel later and pay the etf and youll still save $100+.
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I dont see a benefit. If youre gonna be with sprint for the next two years i say take the subsidized price and sign the contract. You can always cancel later and pay the etf and youll still save $100+.
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If you ETF... do you lose service and number?
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If you ETF... do you lose service and number?
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Yeah youd lose both. But if you sign right back up with them im not sure if you could just get the number back or if it goes into a hold state for an amount of time. Idk. Im sayin if youre gonna be with sprint for the forseeable future why not just get the discounted phone. Do you plan on jumping to att, verizon, or tmobile? You can always buy retail while youre on contract so why not take the contract and get a phone cheaper if youre gonna stay with sprint anyway.
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If you ETF... do you lose service and number?
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port the number to another carrier before you cancel, that way you don't lose your number
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I see no benefit to buying retail. I'm not even gonna comment on "dead" forum.
Maybe T-Mobile might be worth looking at if they have decent coverage in your area. You can get the HTCO for $100 without signing up for 2 years . I know you pay $20 a month but still seems like a good deal .
Regarding S800. I'm sure its a beast but how much more computing power do you need when you look at the ONE's benchmarks. 12k on quadrant or something ridiculous like that
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Does it really matter that the s800 or whatever has better specs? Android)/apps won't be optimized to use it for a long time and its not like you're going to be compiling code on your phone.
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I see no benefit to buying retail. I'm not even gonna comment on "dead" forum.
Maybe T-Mobile might be worth looking at if they have decent coverage in your area. You can get the HTCO for $100 without signing up for 2 years . I know you pay $20 a month but still seems like a good deal .
Regarding S800. I'm sure its a beast but how much more computing power do you need when you look at the ONE's benchmarks. 12k on quadrant or something ridiculous like that
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The reason I don't want to be on contract is just because how this economy is... Yes I work a good job now, but what happens if I fall on hard times and can't afford the bill? I don't want to be in debt because sprint 4g blankets my house.
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The reason I don't want to be on contract is just because how this economy is... Yes I work a good job now, but what happens if I fall on hard times and can't afford the bill? I don't want to be in debt because sprint 4g blankets my house.
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Dude... seriously with this thread?
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The reason I don't want to be on contract is just because how this economy is... Yes I work a good job now, but what happens if I fall on hard times and can't afford the bill? I don't want to be in debt because sprint 4g blankets my house.
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If your LTE works why not keep it for another year? That would be the least risky thing to do
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If your LTE works why not keep it for another year? That would be the least risky thing to do
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I just can't be on a device with dated hardware lol. Seeing as how the One is a qual device... Its sure to get s-off, so I may wait a month or two and get it on craigslist
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So here's the guy who's been "bragging", ' I buy off contract', going, "wait, maybe that wasn't smart'? ?
Am I missing something?
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So here's the guy who's been "bragging", ' I buy off contract', going, "wait, maybe that wasn't smart'? ?
Am I missing something?
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Just was evaluating plans on T-Mobile etc and thought about my last decisions regarding phones. I don't think I'm really saving anything with Sprint . 4G in my area is good, 3G still blows, but I kinda feel like it'd be a mistake to shell out $700 this time.
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Just was evaluating plans on T-Mobile etc and thought about my last decisions regarding phones. I don't think I'm really saving anything with Sprint . 4G in my area is good, 3G still blows, but I kinda feel like it'd be a mistake to shell out $700 this time.
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Ha! I told you!! I told you to take that nex4 deal!
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Ha! I told you!! I told you to take that nex4 deal!
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I don't think that deal existed.
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