Hi, so my TG01 has really poor sound quality. I mean I have W960i and there music has nice and deep bass and it's nice and loud, and here the bass is like on poor quality video on youtube.. also when I make it lauder it does a lot of clicking on the background.. I tried few player and MortPlayer gives me best sound quality, but summing it, it's still poor If a comapre it to Sonny E.
Maybe it's sound drivers or somethin ? IM TALKING ABOUT SOUND IN HEADPHONES. I'M USING WM 6.5 FFBOYS 1.0.
pawel5510 said:
Hi, so my TG01 has really poor sound quality. I mean I have W960i and there music has nice and deep bass and it's nice and loud, and here the bass is like on poor quality video on youtube.. also when I make it lauder it does a lot of clicking on the background.. I tried few player and MortPlayer gives me best sound quality, but summing it, it's still poor If a comapre it to Sonny E.
Maybe it's sound drivers or somethin ? IM TALKING ABOUT SOUND IN HEADPHONES. I'M USING WM 6.5 FFBOYS 1.0.
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Yes, sound quality has never been strong side of TG01 but maybe You should consider to utilize WOWHD. It works like some kind of DSP so You should
see any difference.
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fxdjacentyfxd
ok got it, but now gettin a message sain @There is no WOW HD driver loaded. The control panel will now [email protected] how should I fix this ? I duno how to edit the registry btw thx
1. go to your "windows", search the file with "wavedev" as part of name.
2. copy the whole name.
3. go to [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\WaveDev] and set the "OldDriver" to STEP 2.
4. reboot.
Firstly I can not find this file, secondly I duno whats hkay_local... and how to access it please explain it to me
pawel5510 said:
ok got it, but now gettin a message sain @There is no WOW HD driver loaded. The control panel will now [email protected] how should I fix this ? I duno how to edit the registry btw thx
1. go to your "windows", search the file with "wavedev" as part of name.
2. copy the whole name.
3. go to [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\WaveDev] and set the "OldDriver" to STEP 2.
4. reboot.
Firstly I can not find this file, secondly I duno whats hkay_local... and how to access it please explain it to me
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The file is probably hidden; you need a File Explorer which is able to 'see' hidden / system files (the native windows explorer in Windows Mobile only shows you ones which do not have the -h (hide) attribute set).
The reference to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE (often written in short as HKLM) is a 'Hive Key' in the Registry. This works just like the Registry on a desktop PC and contains all the variable settings for the system and all the applications you have installed. To access this and edit its contents you need a Registry Editor.
One option which does all in one package is the Resco File Explorer (Payware); alternatively you can search on XDA and there are various alternative offerings available with differing capabilities.
Hope that helps clarify....
Back to the original issue behind this, though and I would observe that actually the sound quality out of the TG01 is in fact very good - but you will only hear that with a high bitrate audio source and a decent set of earphones on the end to do it justice, or alternatively by output to a high quality external amplifier via quality screened cable and connectors. The stock earbuds (or similar) will never give you good quality sound. Addition of SRS or equivalent software will only modify the perceived sound, but can never overcome the limitations of such hardware. I've included the spec for my audio setup in my sig below - I'm using .wav encoded audio so it is 1:1 CD quality with no compression whatsoever - as soon as you start using compression (MP3 or similar) the audio quality will be degraded.
well ur answer does not help me. I do use resco explorer.
And how can u say quality is good ? ;d there is a lot of cliping etc quality is so poor that my casete player would give me better output. well I do have good quality headphones pionier make that reatail over pounds. my MP3 files sound awesome on my PC or Sony E. and TG01 just can not handle this level. That's why I'm loooking for anyway to fix this issue and I need this WOWHD as it might help. anyway I got it working but it gives my no audio output 0.- help.
Tried an active set of headphones or a portal headphone amp?
I did not tried amp, but I will no spend any more money for this, jsut want to manage WOWHD to work. I has it working and after editing registry entries my phone does not swich music to headphones, and when answering the phone it can only use speaker, and the micro does not work ;/ too bad help.
Well I just happened to have my headphone cable on me today at work. I have a set of noise cancelling headphones here at work and I don't seem to have a problem with 'clicking' except perhaps between songs when it actually changes track. Whilst not being loud, it sounds ok to me.
Are you using the original headphones that came with the TG01? They suck. Change them for something else and see if that improves things.
Also.. I wonder if the 'radio' version has anything to do with it?
As I said before HEADPHONES HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. I USE PIONIEER HDJ1000 AND I WOULD SAY THEY ARE REALLY GOOD. I tried others as well and the best sound i get on pionieer. but it's still not good at all. Bass sounds like a cheap imitation of bass. and as someone said I could cry WOWHD as it worked for few people giving a bit better sound, so jsut want to try it, but can not get it to work, got this frustrating error @ no WOW HD driver loaded .. And i have no idea if radio version has anything to do with it, I hope you guys tell me that Thanks
You could always try another ROM that already includes WOWHD in it? (Look for the MiROM 8 + UPX compression ROM )
I know that's a bit extreme to do, but you have already flashed your phone with FFBoys.. so it shouldn't be that much of an issue. (use PIM Backup to record your contacts first!)
It could just be that the SE phone has better dedicated hardware as many of them seem to be made with music in mind.
Ok downloading new ROM. I have tried many ROM with no change on audio quality I hate Sense but just wanna try this WOWHD software and see if it's worth using, then I'll go back to old FFboy's ROM, and yes I also think that Sonny E. has better hardware as it's Walkman phone, and that's always been known as good thing.
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Ok downloading new ROM. I have tried many ROM with no change on audio quality I hate Sense but just wanna try this WOWHD software and see if it's worth using, then I'll go back to old FFboy's ROM, and yes I also think that Sonny E. has better hardware as it's Walkman phone, and that's always been known as good thing.
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... TG01 with 9,9 mm was for a long time the thinnest smartphone.
....thinnest smartphone= thinnest loudspeaker= poor sound
... but i love it ...
Allegedly Phantasm X3 is the music player that gives the best sound quality on windows mobile, but good luck obtaining a copy even legitmately.
As mentioned, have it might be worth while trying a different 'radio' with the rom, as if it can effect call quality, maybe it can affect sound quality as well. Which country are you in?
I'm from England and I don't really think that where I leave has anything to do with, the quality of sound. The hardware isn't too good it does not support 320 sample rate
But guys I do have sound that can be accepted, it's still not good, but there is not clicking ans stuff. I have installed miRom8 with WOWHD already intergrated.
I will stay with it, because it runs quite smoothly and many functions that are useful. AND MOST IMPORTANT SOUND IS BIT BETTER.
thanks for help
I've tested a lot of Roms and I have a couple of TG01 : Sound quality it's always the same. It's hardware related, not software.
Said this, sound quality it's average. Using device speakers is quite poor (perhaps due to the thickness, as said before) but with headphones it's not bad, even good in my opinion
And if you use a pair of good headphones and SRS HD switched ON, sound it's superb
Instead, nobody says nothing about voice record quality. Its awful, the worst record device I've never heard . Do you agree?
Hi I am new to this forum. I used Touch and Kaiser in the past.
Have been using TG01 for a few weeks and love it.
I am trying to use it as a music player via stereo bluetooth headset, using coreplayer and in mp3 or wma format. The quality of sound is awful. Then I change the music format as flac which is a lossless format and improves the quality a bit. But the human voice is like a digital nature, worse of all, still not much bass. SRS HD helps a bit on the voice, but not the bass (I have to admit my headset is not a very decent one)
Two questions:
1. I understand a quality headset will definitely improve the bass quality, does the bluetooth transmission limit the bitrate or sound frequency?
2. Any recommendation on the tweak, media player or setup?
ccm081 said:
Hi I am new to this forum. I used Touch and Kaiser in the past.
Have been using TG01 for a few weeks and love it.
I am trying to use it as a music player via stereo bluetooth headset, using coreplayer and in mp3 or wma format. The quality of sound is awful. Then I change the music format as flac which is a lossless format and improves the quality a bit. But the human voice is like a digital nature, worse of all, still not much bass. SRS HD helps a bit on the voice, but not the bass (I have to admit my headset is not a very decent one)
Two questions:
1. I understand a quality headset will definitely improve the bass quality, does the bluetooth transmission limit the bitrate or sound frequency?
2. Any recommendation on the tweak, media player or setup?
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Try a different music player, S2P is good, and you can use the music player while the screen is locked.
As i said earlier Phantasm is the best audio player available for winmo, but i have never used it.
I don't think SRS WoW HD will really help too much to be honest.
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Hello PPL,
i dont usually post in the forum but iv got some info for those cookers out there. Got my Touch pro yesterday, been playing around with it. Found some bits with the standard HTC rom Version 1.90.405.1 Radio 1.02.25.19
Wifi- Works fine but gets very warm at top of device (posible power usage problem,Radio)
Bluetooth A2DP- had to change bit rate from 44100 to 48000 (through Adv config)
FMRADIO- works fine but will not feed radio stations through bluetooth headset. Only to wired headset.
TF3D- can be sluggish.... hope you guys can speed things up out there.
Voice Call record-any chance of this in upcoming roms. have heard this is possible on device
Graphic equalizer- any chance this can be modified for Bluetooth Headset.
Landscape mode via shortcuts menu. runs without graphic acceleration. (use TOMTOM 6.030 in landscape. No option to change to this in tomtom program. screen refresh (2fps if lucky) very wiered whole phone slows down until return to home screen which then returns to portrait.
This device is a great platform for you guys to develop your roms on to. Cant wait to see some of your work in the next comming weeks. I hope some of this info is a help to you lot out there
Goodstone
A2DP only works on a bitrate of 48000 it doesnt support other
the fm radio probably uses the wired headset as antenna like the old sony phones. even if one gets it to work through bluetooth it would still be needing this wired headset to receive broadcasts
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i thought by having the wired headphones and connected the bluetooth that i would get the volume from radio through to bluetooth but still reroutes to wired.
in regards to A2DP. the playback quality from touch without adjusting value was pretty poor. especially at top range sounds. if A2DP only supports 48000 how comes there is an adjustment on SCHAPS ADV config to change bitrate to 44100.
I have a question, are the wired headphones any good?
Is it possiable for someone to extract the software for the fm radio? Curious to see if it works on the fuze...
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Wired headphones not to bad to use, earphones dont stay in my ears one of those people with funny shapes ears.
Anyone do you think there will be a fix to the landscape issue because i use my tomtom alot for my job and i like the display in landscape.
cheers
Remember people, Raphael is still in the VERY early stages, loads of stuff should be fixed fairly rapidly, best part of having a PPC
goodstone said:
i thought by having the wired headphones and connected the bluetooth that i would get the volume from radio through to bluetooth but still reroutes to wired.
in regards to A2DP. the playback quality from touch without adjusting value was pretty poor. especially at top range sounds. if A2DP only supports 48000 how comes there is an adjustment on SCHAPS ADV config to change bitrate to 44100.
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probably the radio application not supporting it.
A2DP should work with 32000 , 44100 and 48000 , but i found out it only works well on 48000 with the blue soleil software i use on my pc.
further investigation showing that the device and rom support all bitrates.
most logitech a2dp devices work well on 44100 joint stereo mode. allmost all nokia a2dp devices use 32000 joint stereo. jabra uses 48000 stereo. sony uses 48000 stereo. the rest im not familiar with. older a2dp devices tend to work better at 32000 joint stereo mode.
goodstone said:
Hello PPL,
Wifi- Works fine but gets very warm at top of device (posible power usage problem,Radio)
Bluetooth A2DP- had to change bit rate from 44100 to 48000 (through Adv config)
FMRADIO- works fine but will not feed radio stations through bluetooth headset. Only to wired headset.
Graphic equalizer- any chance this can be modified for Bluetooth Headset.
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I'm using SRS Wow HD in ELF, but will definitly give it a try on the Pro.
It works through BT.
And maybe then the BT trick that was tried with having the earplugs connected might work.
Attached you'll find the version i made the with the advanced settings.
As for Wifi what is the default setting in it's power mode?
suppose this works on a wizard also ?
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suppose this works on a wizard also ?
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I have a wizard but haven't tried it, been playing to much with my ELF
hehe i would too if i got one ^^
im still waiting for my touch pro to arrive
in the meanwhile i will give the srswow a shot and try it on a friends plain mda vario, since mine allready got the srswow thing.
i'll report back on that one.
We'll i'll be ordering mine on Friday morning so with luck it's in on Saturday.
Def the first thing to install and test can't live without it anymore.
Once your used to Sound enhancements and go back to regular you realise what your missing.
And i never tried the HTC equalizer as it did not support me ST-BT headset.
thanks will try WOWHD tomorrow. default power setting in wifi is best battery. HTC should really work on there software, hopefully there music player should get better with later rom versions. Now using windows media to play audio getting a much better sound quality.
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thanks will try WOWHD tomorrow. default power setting in wifi is best battery. HTC should really work on there software, hopefully there music player should get better with later rom versions. Now using windows media to play audio getting a much better sound quality.
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Well it wasn't working over the headset it had no effect using the HTC Player.
But then switched to my BT headset and WMP and it's doing it's jiggy.
Also working on the build in speakers using WMP.
Looks like the HTC player is using it's own Audio Driver.
But with the ToiuchFlo3d config tool it gets even better.
I can't compare it to a previous diamond situation though.
For me that's an easy choice. WMP it is then. Gives me one less tab on the Home screen
I'll try the BT Sample rate tomorow.
Touchflo was doing fine barely glitches
Noonski said:
Well it wasn't working over the headset it had no effect using the HTC Player.
But then switched to my BT headset and WMP and it's doing it's jiggy.
Also working on the build in speakers using WMP.
Looks like the HTC player is using it's own Audio Driver.
But with the ToiuchFlo3d config tool it gets even better.
I can't compare it to a previous diamond situation though.
For me that's an easy choice. WMP it is then. Gives me one less tab on the Home screen
I'll try the BT Sample rate tomorow.
Touchflo was doing fine barely glitches
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WMP is wicked with WOW. iv got to say HTC media player is rubbish.Hope someone tweeks the htc player. i like the graphic interface on it
I was a HTC Touch Cruise (Polaris) user and I was very satisfied with the excellent audio quality and using it as a perfect MP3 player.
Now I have a TouchPro. Everything is fine but the audio part is so poor ! No more Bass Booster, Medium and 3D booster.
I know I can change the sound using the equalizer but what I'm looking for is the same settings that where available in Polaris : booster and equalizer (please see screenshoot in this post)
I tried WOW but it does not work (no change and cannot change volume anymore).
So do you think it will be possible to take the audio booster driver from Polaris and port it to TouchPro ? Is this something realist or does te Polaris has a specific audio hardware allowing playing with Bass, Medium and 3D parameters ?
It would be a really nice thing to be able to use this "Audio Booster" as I found that my Polaris had even a better sound that my wife's iPod
Many thanks for your advice.
The Old HTC Audio Booster has been "ported" to Diamond/Touch Pro and you can find it here :
* VGA : http://forum.xda-developers.com/atta...4&d=1216314350
* QVGA : http://forum.xda-developers.com/atta...0&d=1195040550
Cannot give credits as I cannot find the posts related to those files (somewhere in Diamond Dev).
The links are dead.
"404 - Not Found" errors
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The links are dead.
"404 - Not Found" errors
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=434908&highlight=HTC+Audio+Booster
use from this thread
htc
It seem that evry software with the name htc dosent work i downloaded htc equalizer and i couldnt find the start up file i found it i file explorer and it gave me a msg. that it was missing a component problems problems problems
Working one
That one works for me : http://dl.free.fr/nGTB4pkFQ
This rocks
It´s seriously the best booster I´ve tried sofar... the others either doesnt work or gives me crappy sound... but hey.. I can enjoy drums again
Thanx!
Audio
I use SRS WOW . It works well for me. I also set the HTC Audio in advanced config for bass to very high. I use wireless head phones thru bluetooth for most of my listening pleasure and hands free talking. And I also plug my phone into my aux. port in my auto when driving.
This is COOL!
I used this version of htc audio booster and then use my OEM htc earphones. Now, it sounds so good as if I'm using an expensive bass earphones!
recently ive been searching through the threads about this topic and i had something like a "sound driver" downladed that should improve the quality of played mp3 files on my phone. sadly, it didnt work on my system.
is there any other way of getting the mp3 quality higher? it really sounds awfull
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recently ive been searching through the threads about this topic and i had something like a "sound driver" downladed that should improve the quality of played mp3 files on my phone. sadly, it didnt work on my system.
is there any other way of getting the mp3 quality higher? it really sounds awfull
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I don't think it sounds so bad..If you want you can try using "audio booster" (start-multimedia-audio booster) but it works for the headset's sound.
Hi guys!! I have checked that if i flash the audio beats of this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525208
And it improves the sound quality I invite you to try, for me it works
I hope to be helpfull
For video
Hi! another adjust i found we can improve the video using mx player with codec and playing in software mod, it works perfectly!
Without any unlikely stops!
you can find the player and the codec in the play store
couldn't tell at first until I loaded a song that has a wide range of bass an high notes an there is a improvement. Using my normal ear buds could barely tell the difference got my bigger headphones hooked up an ya the bass is alot clearer an deeper.
Yeaap!
pintek said:
couldn't tell at first until I loaded a song that has a wide range of bass an high notes an there is a improvement. Using my normal ear buds could barely tell the difference got my bigger headphones hooked up an ya the bass is alot clearer an deeper.
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Yeapp!! the improve is not a wonderful fix but when you are listening with a good earphones, or simply you put your music louder it gains
By other way if you have tried the software video in MX player, you would have good results playing videos no? excume for my bad english
untweetless said:
Yeapp!! the improve is not a wonderful fix but when you are listening with a good earphones, or simply you put your music louder it gains
By other way if you have tried the software video in MX player, you would have good results playing videos no? excume for my bad english
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[ https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mxtech.videoplayer.ad ]
Yes, this video player is alright. Does it's job, fast, non-intrusive.
cheers.
Camera tries...
I just try to flash camera libs from other places but it dosen´t work like i guess, anyone of you know a small solve for the camera?
Can't the beats audio included in the rom?
Ask paulxxx for this, he is who should add the libs, but for the continue version, the last version of it, the sound improves greatly.
For the camera we need the adreno200 libs, submit your request for this
Sent from my X10MP with CM9 Kang v02 by paulxxx and naA 11 Kernel
Yes, Max has finally released a test build (790) to replace 704 so those who like it, log in, download and test away. Read the first page for notes and assess any bugs. I have installed it but at work so no chance to use it yet.
http://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/...te-read-first-post-before-commenting/?page=20
Remember you MUST have a Poweramp forum account and log in to get the download.
I usually use Jet Audio HD but got a bug where it doesn't allow Tom Tom navigation to override audio focus for voice prompts so at present using Player Pro as my daily driver. Here We Go navigation works ok with Jet and Player Pro works fine with either so there's something funny between Tom Tom and Jet.
I hope the new Poweramp works ok, there are bugs and missing features so I will keep the others installed and assess Poweramp as Max addresses the bugs and rolls out more features.
Edit: Having a play with it at work, boss has left for the afternoon.
Whilst my work BT speaker (Jawbone Big Jambox) aux in is connected to my Axon 7 by wire and I played with output settings in Poweramp, set to use Audio Track, I get a marked difference in speaker volume output when switching between Headset HiFi Standard and Super in the phone audio settings. This is working better than before. I'm only on MP3 though so harder to assess as the files are not Hi Res but if I set the Big Jambox to max volume and the phone to max volume then switch from Standard to Super it's much louder and does sound better. That Jambox really cranks on this! It will overload the aux in and I have to set it back two notches so seems to be playing at too high a voltage for the Jambox input jack. Need to play with this some more. Will have a listen on my Backbeat Pro headphones tonight and also in the car on it's HiFi as that has a great dynamic range and quality with BT and wire.
Install it as a secondary player due to missing features. Max the dev will be adding stuff as things progress but I find it not quite fully functional enough to call a daily driver. I feel it's less bugs, more just not all features added and expect as he hears feedback will slowly add them in.
Here's my test setup. Dedicated page aside of my home screens with app shortcuts and widgets for easy comarison listening.
Got it yesterday. Sound-wise, it's solid. Audio flinger reports proper playback at the selected sample rate.
I had some issues with the volume whenever I got a notification even with "Audio ducking" and "short notification interuption" disabled. The volume drops, but never comes back up. I've seen on the PA forum that disabling "Float32" in the OpenSL HD settings (even if you're using Hi-Res output) fixes it. Haven't tested this yet, though. Will do it when I've got my IEMs with me.
Other than that and the obvious UI bugs, it's a good step forward, despite taking 2 years to do it.
Interestingly, the actual volume control behavior was fine on my phone. I have issues with Jet Audio though. It doesn't mesh with Tom Tom navigation app voice prompts. Got fed up with that despite the rest of it working well and great sound and have been using Player Pro for a while. It behaves reliably and now adjusted, sounds great too. Both Jet and Player Pro sound better than Poweramp for me. I have PP set as default player and is on auto start up.
I emailed Jet Audio and Tom Tom about my issue. Tom Tom have been in contact. Nothing at all from Jet. I'll probably end up uninstalling Jet.
I tested this briefly, to say it's a beta preview is an over exaggeration. It's an alpha and is way more alpha than 704. I use Poweramp near everyday and love it but I tried testing 790 but there is so much missing functionality it is just no good for a daily driver. Shame both couldn't exist on the same device, I wouldn't mind testing it then!
TBF I thought that max would have been further on with its development after the time it has taken. I know he is working on this by himself so kudos to the guy but it is so unfinished, for me, it's back to stable 704. I will try again in May with the next test build.
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Yeah, so much functionality missing, I still have it installed but it just doesn't sound as good as Jet or Player Pro for me so the point of having it at all is questionable. Max took so long to get this far with it that others have risen to the top instead.
It reminded me of Neutron a little. You have to really fiddle with it to get good sound. With Player Pro the settings are simpler but just what I need and the good sound is there. Pity the skins are ugly.
With Poweramp, I don't like the wavebar and no skip buttons. The widget wasn't fully functional etc, just not enough I liked in it for a 2 year wait. Will uninstall. See how it goes once worked on further.
Just from curiosity I had a listen with VLC. I have it for video. On wired output it's not great but did sound very nice on my backbeat pro 2 headhones over bluetooth. Not a good audio player though.
After a few days with Poweramp and finally making the jump from Nougat to Oreo, I'll have to agree. It's more alpha than the previous alpha. I lost the Hi Res option after installing AEX 5.4. Quite disappointing but it's expected. To me, anyways.
I'll keep an eye on development but I'll be using UAPP for now. Simple UI, Hi Res works great and it sounds awesome. Hopefully Max is able to refine and polish PA in less time it took him to make it.
I had another play with it last night, found that just need to route everything through HD off the QC SoC. I mostly use bluetooth these days so 24 bit off the SD820 is fine. I could lose the DAC finally and not really worry but not ready to give up the 3.5 jack though..... Sometimes it's handy.
I had 2 Poweramp widgets on an extra homescreen and couldn't remove them. Had to uninstall the app to get rid of them. Too much broken functionality but with polish I think it will be good overall.
Edit: I'd like to know how the AKG DAC is implemented in this phone. It's almost as if it routes through the DAC if using HD and Super is enabled so it may not matter what the music thinks as long as it uses hi res?
The more I use new Poweramp the better I like it. Makes me want the missing functions implemented. Definitely not giving up on Poweramp.
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After a few days with Poweramp and finally making the jump from Nougat to Oreo, I'll have to agree. It's more alpha than the previous alpha. I lost the Hi Res option after installing AEX 5.4. Quite disappointing but it's expected. To me, anyways.
I'll keep an eye on development but I'll be using UAPP for now. Simple UI, Hi Res works great and it sounds awesome. Hopefully Max is able to refine and polish PA in less time it took him to make it.
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Hi-res never worked. Now it's the same as before, it'll tell you it's working but it's not (it's written though, hi-res doesn't work in Oreo).
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RobboW said:
I had another play with it last night, found that just need to route everything through HD off the QC SoC. I mostly use bluetooth these days so 24 bit off the SD820 is fine. I could lose the DAC finally and not really worry but not ready to give up the 3.5 jack though..... Sometimes it's handy.
I had 2 Poweramp widgets on an extra homescreen and couldn't remove them. Had to uninstall the app to get rid of them. Too much broken functionality but with polish I think it will be good overall.
Edit: I'd like to know how the AKG DAC is implemented in this phone. It's almost as if it routes through the DAC if using HD and Super is enabled so it may not matter what the music thinks as long as it uses hi res?
The more I use new Poweramp the better I like it. Makes me want the missing functions implemented. Definitely not giving up on Poweramp.
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I didn't get anything of what you said here, but i'll tell you what i know:
-poweramp won't output hi-res in Oreo, and it will happily tell you that it is - hence, you have to use dumpsys media.audio_flinger as always
-What do you gain by routing everyrthig through the low power DAC? (Again, ZTE said it's a DAC inside the AK4961, not SD820). I wonder if that DAC actually works with 24-bit, but at least it is specced that way.
-What do you mean by the last paragraph? The DAC will output whatever kind of sound you input it, it won't "only" play hi-res.
Btw it's AKM, AKG is a headphone manufacturer
Other thing: Disable hi-res output. Use the normal OpenSL output. That way it'll sound just like good olde Poweramp
If I go back to OpenSL it sounds markedly inferior.
I keep mixing up AKG and AKM lol.
What I meant was if I have the phone set to output on Super setting and the music app is using Hi Res it does seem to sound louder and better in general, as if the phone just puts it through the AKM DAC anyway, despite the app thinking it's using the SD820. With Poweramp 790 alpha the phone will still overload the input on my car hifi when at full volume so it seems it's using the DAC, not the SoC.
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Hi-res never worked. Now it's the same as before, it'll tell you it's working but it's not (it's written though, hi-res doesn't work in Oreo).
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As in the output setting is completely gone after jumping to Oreo. I did get the Hi Res on 704 to work when I was on 7.1.2 using either the samsung uhqa cheat or lenovo hifi cheat. It wasn't true hi res, but there were differences when I swapped between the sample rates. So it still "worked" in a way.
790's hi res worked on 7.1.2 but it looked like it was detecting the qualcomm DAC and not the AKM. I might have to resend the hi res request in the Poweramp forum.
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As in the output setting is completely gone after jumping to Oreo. I did get the Hi Res on 704 to work when I was on 7.1.2 using either the samsung uhqa cheat or lenovo hifi cheat. It wasn't true hi res, but there were differences when I swapped between the sample rates. So it still "worked" in a way.
790's hi res worked on 7.1.2 but it looked like it was detecting the qualcomm DAC and not the AKM. I might have to resend the hi res request in the Poweramp forum.
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In my case (8.0.0) it is there. Sound is worse with it turned on though (much lower volume basically)
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In my case (8.0.0) it is there. Sound is worse with it turned on though (much lower volume basically)
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Do you have volume issues with other players? Because ever since I installed Oreo 8.1, the volume's dropped quite significantly across the whole phone. UAPP and Poweramp play at really low volume now. Could be an Oreo thing or an Ainur thing. I'm not sure.
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Do you have volume issues with other players? Because ever since I installed Oreo 8.1, the volume's dropped quite significantly across the whole phone. UAPP and Poweramp play at really low volume now. Could be an Oreo thing or an Ainur thing. I'm not sure.
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I think it is an Oreo thing. As soon as I went from RR-N to RR-O I noticed my headphone volume dropped significantly. I'd love to know the solution
What do people recommend for HD audio using the DAC? I'm using the RR remix ROM and have Viper installed. I guess Play Music uses the DAC? I've only ever used Poweramp
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What do people recommend for HD audio using the DAC? I'm using the RR remix ROM and have Viper installed. I guess Play Music uses the DAC? I've only ever used Poweramp
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USB Player Pro. In one of their recent updates, they added support for DAC chips on phones. Axon 7 included.
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Do you have volume issues with other players? Because ever since I installed Oreo 8.1, the volume's dropped quite significantly across the whole phone. UAPP and Poweramp play at really low volume now. Could be an Oreo thing or an Ainur thing. I'm not sure.
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Nope, that's most definitely an Ainur thing. If you installed Poweramp beta, be sure to disable OpenSL ES HD output (supposedly hi-res) because that will lower the volume quite a lot.
Also install the B32+B10 bootloader if possible. That one seems to have fixes for audio.
In stock Nougat it's fine. I turned volume to max and switched between. The volume steps are different but max is fine. I found it sounded better with Float32 switched on.
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USB Player Pro. In one of their recent updates, they added support for DAC chips on phones. Axon 7 included.
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No way, the first and only time I tried USB Player Pro it literally killed my SD Card (I don't understand how)
I've been trawling Google Play and revisiting music apps. It seems Onkyo HF Player has had a bit of a revamp. It's getting quite good now. It has widget and notification functions etc. Still no auto start though. One thing I like is it shows the output in now playing. With my backbeat pro 2 cans in wired mode and turned off the app is playing a 44.1KHz MP3 and upsampling to output at 48K. If I go into phone sound settings and turn on Dolby Atmos then go to the headphone setting and switch between standard and super there's no difference. If I turn off Atmos and switch from standard to super it gets louder and soundstage expands. Interesting....
It still has that great user configurable parametric EQ too
Playing a hi res WAV or FLAC also shows on screen. I assume the Axon 7 won't output above 48K though? I suspect this is running off the SD820.
So if it plays above 192K what does it signify? Nothing?
Or the DAC?