Enjoy! This thing is looking amazing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1IhrSjMy0Q&feature=youtu.be
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Enjoy! This thing is looking amazing.
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thats what she...
anyway, I cant wait to get my hands on this. I wonder if sprint stores will have them at opening? I got my reserved does that guarantee I will get one?
that was a pretty good first review, he covered most of my questions.
I'll go ahead and ask, why such a dramatic difference in bench scores between the E3D and the SGS2? I know everyone says "scores don't matter", but it begs the question if they are utilizing similar hardware. Also, I understand that the current set of bench marking test probably do not account for a dual core proc.
The benchmarks also don't account for the higher resolution/pixel count on the E3d.
I think the reason he couldn't find The Green Hornet was cause I read that it came preloaded on the microsd card.... or like he said cause its a preproduction phone
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJwRH9Sc51Q
here is another new video, from radioshack
Gotta say I'm.pretty impressed..I'm even more excited..the camera and videos looked great..there is def something up with the benchmarks bc this thing flies
I heard its because quadrant is only reading one core cause they haven't updated for the new snapdragon
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Gotta say I'm.pretty impressed..I'm even more excited..the camera and videos looked great..there is def something up with the benchmarks bc this thing flies
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very low quadrant score 2193, lg optimus 3d has got 2900, SGII 3500
very low smartbench score(game score) 1688 , lg optimus 3d-2822
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very low quadrant score 2193, lg optimus 3d has got 2900, SGII 3500
very low smartbench score(game score) 1688 , lg optimus 3d-2822
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Because a useless horribly made app that isn't even optimized for QHD High resolution screens or dual cores defines a phone in the real world...
Same goes for linpack and smartbench and any other apps that claim to "benchmark" devices
My g2x overclocked to 1.5ghz hit 5100 on quadrant yet it wasn't up to my standards or others at that
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I think the reason he couldn't find The Green Hornet was cause I read that it came preloaded on the microsd card.... or like he said cause its a preproduction phone
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it was on his phone. I saw the icon when he first started talking about the apps. He mustve just missed it
not sure if this has been mentioned elsewhere.. but if you go through a cashback site (fat wallet) you get $25 back from wirefly. Pre-ordered mine for 179.99 - $25 cb = $154.99 no taxt and free standard shipping.
still no answer about gorilla glass
The real reason behind the benchmarksbis not because the e3d soc is half as powerful as the others its bc its the only soc that has asynchronous cores..quadrant and other can account for the dual cores ..look at the gs2 its off the chart..but the e3d core does not run the same clock speeds on each core..its actually a benefit..an optimization..take those benchmarks.with a grain of salt..if.the processor suck its couldn't eat through 1080p video or run so smoothly..
Was anyone else impressed with the camera quality? Still shots were pretty good, but the reviewer recorded and showed a video recorded in QHD (960 x 540) resolution. It wasn't even 720p and the video quality and audio quality were pretty damn good, imo.
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Was anyone else impressed with the camera quality? Still shots were pretty good, but the reviewer recorded and showed a video recorded in QHD (960 x 540) resolution. It wasn't even 720p and the video quality and audio quality were pretty damn good, imo.
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I agree I thought they looked great..one of the best I've seen..an evo woth sick camera _phone seks
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Because a useless horribly made app that isn't even optimized for QHD High resolution screens or dual cores defines a phone in the real world...
Same goes for linpack and smartbench and any other apps that claim to "benchmark" devices
My g2x overclocked to 1.5ghz hit 5100 on quadrant yet it wasn't up to my standards or others at that
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I thought i read somewhere that android os wont take full advantage of multi core system untill ICS comes out? That is prob part of the reason as well.
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I thought i read somewhere that android os wont take full advantage of multi core system untill ICS comes out? That is prob part of the reason as well.
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Ice cream will take full advantage of dual core...
But even smartbench claims to be "optimized" for dual core devices... Even though they still have problems reading some dual core frequencies...
My advise don't buy a phone for benchmark scores and reciews....buy it because it will suit your every day needs.... Or dreams (3d video/pictures)
Yes take reviews and benchmarks into consideration but don't base your money on other peoples bias opitions and ****ty coded apps....
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Ice cream will take full advantage of dual core...
But even smartbench claims to be "optimized" for dual core devices... Even though they still have problems reading some dual core frequencies...
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I can add a bit here...
Smartbench 2011 is optimized for multi-cores (4 cores to be exact). It creates 4 identical threads that are assigned with identical workloads. Whether your phone has 2 or 4 cores, Smartbench (version 2011 only, 2010 was not designed to use multi-cores) will keep them busy, I can assure you.
I do have a problem with reading frequency though. One of the ROM developer has kindly given me some clues as to why this is happening. It is mainly around Tegra 2 devices that don't correctly report the right frequency when it is set. Also, the Sensation seems to be reporting it as zero as well. In the future versions, I will try to measure the clock speed during the run time without affecting the benchmark scores. It will be interesting to see how this works out on async processors such as the ones in the Sensation and this.
And once again, here's a article that explains facts on dual-core support for Android OS. It really doesn't require Ice Cream - Froyo with SMP will utilize both cores just fine:
http://bit.ly/jHw7Ga
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I've noticed that the evo 3d has been scoring lower than the sensation, which is spec'd performance-wise. Exactly the same except for the evo having more ram. So I don't really understand why it would eb scoeing lower
Also if you're here to try and dispute the credibility of benchmarks leave now because that's not the point of this topic.
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Well, the Evo 3D does have the ability to do 3D, so I imagine it will take up some resources, but I have a feeling that the benchmark scores will only get better as HTC and Sprint release updates and fixes for it.
Probably the bloatware
Benchmarks are boo boo! For a benchmark to read correctly the cores need to be ramped up to max for the test. The app does not draw full ramp from the dual cores. Plus they are asynchronous, once we root and have kernel source for added tweeks we will blow tegra away (even with tegra tweeked)!
For the most part synthetic benchmarks are not really useful. How much are they off anyways? I'll bet you'll never notice the difference.
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Benchmarks are boo boo! For a benchmark to read correctly the cores need to be ramped up to max for the test. The app does not draw full ramp from the dual cores. Plus they are asynchronous, once we root and have kernel source for added tweeks we will blow tegra away (even with tegra tweeked)!
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pretty much what I came into say. the Nexus S scores don't blow you away before you root either,but once Rooted, it is capable of truly amazing power.
pretty much every review says the Evo 3d feels much faster and much more fluid than the sensation.
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LMAO!
10 char
the processor is an ASYNC and the cores are able to run at different speeds for different task. The programs testing are better suited to your normal SYNC processor which are both always running at full all the time.
The need to write code to take advantage of the ASYNC and its methods to reach max must be included in the programming before they will ever be able to measure the full potential of the ASYNC.
you could say in those test I could garuntee you one processor is running max one is not. if at all. But if it is. its just a little as the program has not told it to run both processors at max if its a ASYNC,
ADD the qHD and the program would need to account for that.
imagine if the screen was amoled or just 800 x 480. this thing would be brutal beast.
but at the end of the day I love HTC phones.
HTC Sense is known to produce low benchmark scores. Once AOSP gets on this baby, it will fly through the irrelevant benchmarks like nothing.
Not only that but benchmarks are known to produce pointless infighting and petty bickering over measures that are not only highly suspect but also not related to actual use...
...or so the old wives tale goes...
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I've noticed that the evo 3d has been scoring lower than the sensation, which is spec'd performance-wise. Exactly the same except for the evo having more ram. So I don't really understand why it would eb scoeing lower
Also if you're here to try and dispute the credibility of benchmarks leave now because that's not the point of this topic.
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Actually, check out Anandtech's bench of the Evo 3D and Sensation from a couple of weeks ago, and the check out the same bench of those 2 devices when they tested the Droid 3 a couple of days ago.
Comparing the scores, the 3vo scored the same both times. First time it was higher than the Sensation, and second time lower. So somewhere in between, the Sensation got a software update that made it score higher on those benchmarks. I'm guessing we'll see the same kind of improvement with the 3vo in time.
leaving now. Just beating a dead horse here, this has been debated a million times.
your holding it wrong?
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your holding it wrong?
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Yeah he should call up for his free rubber band.
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HTC Sense is known to produce low benchmark scores. Once AOSP gets on this baby, it will fly through the irrelevant benchmarks like nothing.
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While I did run asop on my evo no way will an asop rom touch my evo 3d. Sense 3.0 is great and I doubt asop will supoort 3d.
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I hate people who point out benchmarks on a phone... :|
LOL if htc's scrap snapdragon duel core had good benchmarks I bet all of you would be posting about how elite your phone is and how good it does in benchmarks but since it sucks you say benchmarks don't matter. Don't fool yourself benchmarks do matter. Yes quadrant can be tricked by unlocked phones with edits but benchmarks ran on tegra 2 & crap snapdragon using smartbench 2011 (does use both cores) gives realistic performance.
evo 3d
2089 cpu
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3989 cpu
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LOL if htc's scrap snapdragon duel core had good benchmarks I bet all of you would be posting about how elite your phone is and how good it does in benchmarks but since it sucks you say benchmarks don't matter. Don't fool yourself benchmarks do matter. Yes quadrant can be tricked by unlocked phones with edits but benchmarks ran on tegra 2 & crap snapdragon using smartbench 2011 (does use both cores) gives realistic performance.
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Bro its because tegra manages different. Tegra uses both cores to do one single task. While the EVO 3D chip set is asynchronous. This means when you run a benchmark only one core is being processed during that application. The other core is running other processes to keep your EVO lag free and running smoothly. Benchmark is only a number anyway.
Remember this tho forever. benchmarks are like a girl in a bikini, they show a lot but not quite everything.
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I finally found a comparable tegra 2 bench posted online in a droid x 2 review, both devices have a qHD screen. It's looking like the hardware we have here isn't particularly impressive, and let's not even go there with the Galaxy s 2 *shudder*, it's a massacre.
I was to understand that the Qualcomm/Adreno setup was going to at least be competitive, and was supposed to be all out superior to Tegra 2. Can anyone shed some light on this?
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I finally found a comparable tegra 2 bench posted online in a droid x 2 review, both devices have a qHD screen. It's looking like the hardware we have here isn't particularly impressive, and let's not even go there with the Galaxy s 2 *shudder*, it's a massacre.
I was to understand that the Qualcomm/Adreno setup was going to at least be competitive, and was supposed to be all out superior to Tegra 2. Can anyone shed some light on this?
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I don't look at benchmarks too much... but it can download n' upload like a God that's its power tool
My overlocked 1.5 Ghz tegra 2 lags behind my EVO 3D but it scores 900 more points in quadrant so my epeen feels alright. Seriously most of these benchmarks are not coded well.
I think the 3vo uses only one core with quadrant. You have to use a dual core benchmark test like CF Bench for better results. Then again benchmarks really don't mean much.
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Benchmarks are nearly useless measures.
Using benchmarks to determine real world performance is like licking your finger and sticking it up in the air to determine how fast the wind is moving.
Yeah, it'll put you roughly in the ballpark--roughly. But that ''ballpark'' is big enough to drive a couple dump trucks through...
Both the droid x2 and the galaxy s2 aren't running sense, which usually drags down bench marks even though the phone is silky smooth. Benchmarks may be useful for testing modifications on the same phone, but not for comparing different phones. Just ask yourself... Does it seem to suffer to you?
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Who gives a #$% about benchmarks, all I know is that this thing is fast, way faster than the EVO. I have a gTablet (tegra 2, Honeycomb) that runs games very well and this 3VO runs the same games but only smoother and faster, no hiccups at all. Totally happy here and I have like 200 apps on this thing and I have like 280 megs left.
Oh, and my gTablet is clocked to 1.5ghz!
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Who gives a #$% about benchmarks, all I know is that this thing is fast, way faster than the EVO. I have a gTablet (tegra 2, Honeycomb) that runs games very well and this 3VO runs the same games but only smoother and faster, no hiccups at all. Totally happy here and I have like 200 apps on this thing and I have like 280 megs left.
Oh, and my gTablet is clocked to 1.5ghz!
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Seriously my Tegra 2 Transformer has nothing on my EVO 3D. Why people look only at benchmarks and not what is in front of them I have no clue.
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Both the droid x2 and the galaxy s2 aren't running sense, which usually drags down bench marks even though the phone is silky smooth. Benchmarks may be useful for testing modifications on the same phone, but not for comparing different phones. Just ask yourself... Does it seem to suffer to you?
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I've actually never had an AOSP rom run all that much faster than a Sense rom. Enough of a variance to say that there isn't a difference at all.
Like many others have pointed out. Quadrants is a terrible bench for dualcore phones until it's updated. When it reads off a bunch of question marks as the evo3ds CPU, CPU speed,etc. You know its not going to be a reliable test.
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Go to anand-tech for the Adreno 220 benches... It crushed the competition so maybe that'll make you feel better.
1 possible reason why the EVO 3D isn't scoring as high as you expect is because I think the benchmark tests don't utilize CPU's with asynchonous dual cores correctly.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the Galaxy uses synchonous cores which mean they can only work on the same thing at the same time, they can't work on separate operations at the same time.
The EVO 3D has asynchonous cores which allow for true multitasking meaning each core will work on separate tasks. As I understand it, support for this type of CPU is going to be added in Android 2.4 and later, but don't quote me on that.
LOL @ benchmarks
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Go to anand-tech for the Adreno 220 benches... It crushed the competition so maybe that'll make you feel better.
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Any similar comparisons to the exynos/mali(?) that the sgs 2 is packing?
Some of the above statements about asynchronous processing do make me feel better if true.
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Any similar comparisons to the exynos/mali(?) that the sgs 2 is packing?
Some of the above statements about asynchronous processing do make me feel better if true.
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Why not feel good in the first place?
This phone screams. You're comparing it to a Moto phone with Tegra 2 which will likely be one of the last new phones with Tegra 2. Enjoy the 3D. By the time something comes around to crush it, we'll be into 4 core territory, or Android will be updated to better support multiple cores (if I remember right, this was only really started for 3.0).
I'll agree the SGS2 seems like a killer but I'll take HTC build quality over Samsung any day of the week. Plus, let's see Exynos pushing qHD.
No I hear you. Truth is that there probably won't be any software written for quite sometime that is going to really push our current hardware. Besides I upgrade every year or so anyway, making future proofing less of an issue for me.
It's the principle of the thing.
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No I hear you. Truth is that there probably won't be any software written for quite sometime that is going to really push our current hardware. Besides I upgrade every year or so anyway, making future proofing less of an issue for me.
It's the principle of the thing.
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I hear ya too, but you gotta try not to get caught up in numbers. Numbers can be manipulated. Manufacturers can tune their phones to perform better in Quadrant (this can also be done with custom ROMs; when it is, performance in other categories suffers). AMD and Intel still participate in this ePeen warfare.
I won't be surprised if we see that Evo 3D outperforms the Tegra Moto overall.
The good thing is, we will eventually see this thing rooted completely (hopefully not after it's lost most of its luster). THEN we will see what we can push out of this phone. Look how fast it's running sense. Imagine a vanilla Android experience on it, or an overclock to say, 1.8 GHz (which will probably happen). I dunno about you but I'm salivating.
Ok, the only benchmark I need to know is that my phone boots up from "off" in 10-12 seconds. Base your satisfaction on a constant, not on relativism.
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1 possible reason why the EVO 3D isn't scoring as high as you expect is because I think the benchmark tests don't utilize CPU's with asynchonous dual cores correctly.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the Galaxy uses synchonous cores which mean they can only work on the same thing at the same time, they can't work on separate operations at the same time.
The EVO 3D has asynchonous cores which allow for true multitasking meaning each core will work on separate tasks. As I understand it, support for this type of CPU is going to be added in Android 2.4 and later, but don't quote me on that.
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Should be no difference to code for asynchronous or synchronous. The cores will run at full speed if they're pushed. Quadrant scores are more based on database read and write speeds than anything.
I've owned many many phones, and this one is by far the most fluid (although I have not had hands on with the Galaxy SII, but I hate Samsung's software)
I haven't run into a case where the phone stutters, have you?
I believe in the Anandtech benchmarks, they used a developer phone that has the same qualcomm chipset running at the stock 1.5ghz, while our phones were downclocked to 1.2ghz.
They might have done this for various reasons, it would be interesting to see how our phones overclock and if there's any changes in battery life.
I've been looking for a more technical analysis of these SOCs and I have been trying to learn how the async CPU setup on the MSM8660 affects performance.
Nvidia claims that the power saving feature of our CPU (async) will inevitably cause a decrease in performance:
http://www.intomobile.com/2011/03/2...ed&utm_campaign=Feed:+IntoMobile+(IntoMobile)
Does anyone have any comments on this? If this is the case, I am wondering if through software we can force both cores to run at the same voltage/frequency. I wonder if it would cause an increase in performance (at least in benchmarking). Many claim that the Evo 3d only gets medicore benchmark scores due to having asynchronous cores that are not being accurately benched. It would be interesting to verify this claim.
Also, does anyone know which SOC between the three I listed in the title is the highest in performance (not talking about useless benchmarks like quadrant)?
So....there is possibly a 10–15% decrease in performance.....that's fine with me. Most of the time you won't even notice until you run benchmarks and looks at the numbers.
SetCPU + Performance mode are all you should need
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So....there is possibly a 10–15% decrease in performance.....that's fine with me. Most of the time you won't even notice until you run benchmarks and looks at the numbers.
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Well the 10-15% slower is nVidia's claim, not sure if its true.
Does that make both cores run at the same time or running cores at the same time not possible due to the processor
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SetCPU + Performance mode are all you should need
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Does that make both cores run at the same time or running cores at the same time not possible due to the processor
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It will keep the cpu running at full speed. Which core gets used for what depends on a lot of things but it mostly depends on how the apps and kernel are programmed.
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It will keep the cpu running at full speed. Which core gets used for what depends on a lot of things but it mostly depends on how the apps and kernel are programmed.
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Yes, but is it possible to keep both cores at their full frequency? Setting the exynos or tegra 2 on performance mode makes both cores stay at their maximum frequency since they are synchronous. I think setting performance mode on the Evo 3d would only guarantee that one of the core will remain at its full frequency.
Not sure about this of course. Anyone have any insight into this?
Second Core wouldnt kick in if ur not heavily multitasking or running multithreaded apps and u wouldnt need second core for minor multitasking or single threaded operations as single core is enough
i will tell you that on paper the msmx60 should beat out all, but in real world use, the exynos hammers everything. the s2 is a beast
The Exynos is the better SoC, plain and simple. If we get into GPU discussions, the Adreno 220 is the best, as in better than Mali 400.. Go to Anandtech, and watch them use a Qualcomm device for the benches.
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Is it a "for sure" thing that ICS will use the GPU acceleration in the OS? Or is that just everyone's hopes and dreams
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You could program the kernel to keep both cores at max frequency. Im not a developer but am sure something like this could be done
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Is it a "for sure" thing that ICS will use the GPU acceleration in the OS? Or is that just everyone's hopes and dreams
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ics will include all of the features that honeycomb has and honeycomb has 2d acceleration so yes
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Maybe we should make some real world benchmarks and get some SGS2 people in on it. Like how fast a particular app opens(say angry birds), How many fps a game plays at, Convert a file to another format, complete a 5 step plan to take over the world things like that. Alot of things like that are how reviewers rate and test things like new video cards and cpus plus all the benchmark programs.
I used to use a program called fraps to see how many fps my pc games were playing at so I could tweak stuff( long live unreal tournament!!!!). It would just display the fps in the top corner of the screen.
Also comparing the 3vo and SGS2 will really heat up when we get root and CM7. 400mb less roms have gatta make a huge difference on performance. I dunno about you guys but I haven't been able clog up my 3vo yet(and I've been trying!), I'm pretty impressed with the hardware so far.
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Maybe we should make some real world benchmarks and get some SGS2 people in on it. Like how fast a particular app opens(say angry birds), How many fps a game plays at, Convert a file to another format, complete a 5 step plan to take over the world things like that. Alot of things like that are how reviewers rate and test things like new video cards and cpus plus all the benchmark programs.
I used to use a program called fraps to see how many fps my pc games were playing at so I could tweak stuff( long live unreal tournament!!!!). It would just display the fps in the top corner of the screen.
Also comparing the 3vo and SGS2 will really heat up when we get root and CM7. 400mb less roms have gatta make a huge difference on performance. I dunno about you guys but I haven't been able clog up my 3vo yet(and I've been trying!), I'm pretty impressed with the hardware so far.
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Fraps tends to lie with FPS.
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GPU acceleration will be nice. Hope we see ICS soon.
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It is known that the MSM8660 can achieve higher clock frequencies than the Exynos, though clock for clock the Exynos has better IPC.
As of right now the GSII beats the 3VO in both benchmarks and real world tests, but I suspect this is because Sense is a pig that takes far too much ram and system resources. HTC also seems to have poorer unoptimized drivers. In addition to this, the async CPUs of the 3VO may not be properly tested by current benchmarking tools.
I think comparing a rooted 3VO and a rooted GSII should be much closer. Imagine the MSM8660 at 1.8-2.0 Ghz both cores running full frequency with no Sense and other bloat to slow it down. Combine that with a hardware accelerated GUI and this phone should be amazing.
The Adreno GPU will get better over time... and will develop much faster than before. Since Qualcomm purchased the branch from AMD (ATi), there has been much improvement in a reasonably small amount of time. There are various claims that the Adreno 220 outperforms the Tegra 2. I havent seen a solid comparison of the Adreno 220 vs the Exynos although I have read that the Exynos is a very capable processor.
As they both stand in stock offering, the Samsung GS2 will be faster; it has tremendous less resources to move. I agree with what has been said about root & rom options: CM7 on the EVO 3D will likely result in unprecedented (real world) benchmarks .Also note that the current Android releases are not yet optimized for dual/quad core management. But rest assured, it is well under development and the Sprint EVO 4G4D (hypothetical name) will behold a treasure trove of menacing capabilities.
HTC + Qualcomm + Android = Future
I think we should just wait until we can do a head-to-head AOSP CM 7 benchmark/real world test to see what happens. I'm confident the SGSII will get shredded by the E3D.
It seems unfair to compare anything within the phone itself now, because of what each phone has to run. Sense is pretty tasking on our phones and I can't say as much for the opposition.
It's funny to see NVIDIA make snide comments about Qualcomm when their phones are getting bested. Although I must say it is impressive to see that Tegra 2 phones are over a year old and keeping up with the E3D's dual-core deliciousness.
Just my thoughts.
Personally I don't believe Nvidia, plenty of benchmarks contradict their statement. That and whoever said "Additionally, the operating systems like Android and many apps aren’t set up for an asynchronous architecture." is an idiot because 99% of apps in the market don't support dual core lmfao.
I know its a Andreno 220 but how does it fair with something found in Nexus, S2, Tegra 2?
better then Nexus S/ Galaxy S but bit lower then ATT Galaxy S2 and iphone 4S
Take a look at this review
It's a decent gpu except battery consumption and heat problem
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Take a look at this review
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Where is the link?
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Where is the link?
Sent From My HTC Amaze
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Oh shoot. I'm really sorry. Forgot about link.
http://alturl.com/qr6jh
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I know its a Andreno 220 but how does it fair with something found in Nexus, S2, Tegra 2?
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yes every phone is geared towards something, I believe the amaze is geared towards best picture taking. SGSII seems more of a gaming device to me. although I must say I feel like the CPU on this device makes up for the galaxy tab 10.1 that I have with tegra 2. My videos are much smoother on my phone especially if I overclock, but I rarely watch videos on such a small screen I rather use my tablet. decoders are also a big part of watching movies. right now all the phones I have seen are not able to decode MKV files very well, since MKV is actually a bin that can contain many file formats such MP4 AVI, with the advantage of high quality, soft encoded subtitles and much more verstatile..I have yet to see a good player that plays MKV files smoothly on android!! GPU is more for gaming and can to a great extend be compensated by the CPU, once we get dual core support with ICS you won't have any problems playing games, not that you should have any right now!!! there's also a rom out that supports dual core cpu, you might want to check that out, if you're looking for a good gaming experience.
I could be wrong but I think the tmobile SGSII also uses andreno 220 no?
Adreno 220 outperforms Tegra 2 in Anandtech benchmarks: http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=218757
hope this is not too much info: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3rhQc666Sg lol
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hope this is not too much info: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3rhQc666Sg lol
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Haha
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Yes I was right, the tmobile SGSII runs the same snapdragon processor as the amaze since they needed it for the 42mbps 4g speeds speeds: thus it runs the same gpu as ours...the other SGSII's from Att, verizon, and sprint run the exynos processor which has a better gpu. Right now at T-mobile this is the best you can get
exynos gpu is quadcore but wastes more battery obviously
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1277987
more info, snapdragon processor runs 720 an1080p videos better than the exynos, processor according to wikipedia!!
This makes me feel a bit better. My Cousins LG 2X was getting higher score based on him then my AMAZE despite me having more RAM and faster CPU in Quadrant. Stock i score ~ 2.8K and with Custom ROM ~ 3.1K
Zealotki11er said:
This makes me feel a bit better. My Cousins LG 2X was getting higher score based on him then my AMAZE despite me having more RAM and faster CPU in Quadrant. Stock i score ~ 2.8K and with Custom ROM ~ 3.1K
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Those scores mean nothing!!! ask the more experienced people!
holy crap those benchmark results on the exynos thread were ridiculous. I honesly dont care though, my sensation handled eternal legacy and dead space perfect so im not worried. i would rather have a better camera then gpu on a phone, since i game on my laptop and if i wanted mobile gaming id get the playstation vita which i probably am lol
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holy crap those benchmark results on the exynos thread were ridiculous. I honesly dont care though, my sensation handled eternal legacy and dead space perfect so im not worried. i would rather have a better camera then gpu on a phone, since i game on my laptop and if i wanted mobile gaming id get the playstation vita which i probably am lol
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exactly what I said about mobile gaming , psp gives you a much better mobile gaming experience, but having a great camera on a phone you can save money on a point and shoot for the most part, especially with our camera.
seansk said:
exactly what I said about mobile gaming , psp gives you a much better mobile gaming experience, but having a great camera on a phone you can save money on a point and shoot for the most part, especially with our camera.
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agreed! the vita has crap cameras but ps3 graphics, im sold aha. i liked my sensation camera so i know i will love the Amaze camera. I was supposed to get my Amaze today but it snowed and UPS rescheduled the date
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I have yet to see a good player that plays MKV files smoothly on android!!
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mx video player has dual core support, a little off topic but it works wonders on even the larger mkv files (~10gb) and has hi10p support now..
F033x said:
mx video player has dual core support, a little off topic but it works wonders on even the larger mkv files (~10gb) and has hi10p support now..
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tried it, still choppy!!! depends how the video was also encoded. I usually get very high compressed mkv's
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stratax said:
agreed! the vita has crap cameras but ps3 graphics, im sold aha. i liked my sensation camera so i know i will love the Amaze camera. I was supposed to get my Amaze today but it snowed and UPS rescheduled the date
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haha, if you like your sensation's camera, Amaze will blow it out of the water...it f/2.2 so takes very macro shots, 28mm which gives you a really side field compared to any phone camera you use today (basically you don't have to move back to get someone entirely in the picture) and backside illuminated for low light conditions... my gf has the sensation, I've tested them with the same conditions. There's no comparison, for the photo enthusiast this is it.
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tried it, still choppy!!! depends how the video was also encoded. I usually get very high compressed mkv's
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hummm..
are you on a stock rom?
because ive tested multiple mkv's (from 170mb to over 10gb) even those at hi10p bitrates, and they run flawlessly on mx.
our adreno 220 is beast imho, coming from the 205 i have noticed a huge difference in the capacity of gaming (sans gta3).
i just wish that the hardware recognized video formats like mkv, ogm and mt2s as native..
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haha, if you like your sensation's camera, Amaze will blow it out of the water...it f/2.2 so takes very macro shots, 28mm which gives you a really side field compared to any phone camera you use today (basically you don't have to move back to get someone entirely in the picture) and backside illuminated for low light conditions... my gf has the sensation, I've tested them with the same conditions. There's no comparison, for the photo enthusiast this is it.
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That's great news ive done some research on it when i was about the get the Radar but ended up with the Sensation. but not getting the Amaze, pretty excited since i love taking pictures and all.
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hummm..
are you on a stock rom?
because ive tested multiple mkv's (from 170mb to over 10gb) even those at hi10p bitrates, and they run flawlessly on mx.
our adreno 220 is beast imho, coming from the 205 i have noticed a huge difference in the capacity of gaming (sans gta3).
i just wish that the hardware recognized video formats like mkv, ogm and mt2s as native..
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oh i'm sorry I havn't tried in on my phone yet, maybe I should, I usually don't like watching video's on my phone, I was referring to my galaxy tab 10.1, with tegra 2, and I don't know how the glaxay tab is formatted but will not let me put more than a 4 gig file on it , I havn't been tweaking my tab as much as my phone lol
Just in case some of you missed it over at android central.
Just a quick demo of the S4 Krait vs the Tegra 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6xb8t3FoFI&feature=player_embedded
Source:By Chris Parsons
http://www.androidcentral.com/att-one-x-benchmarks-pit-qualcomm-snapdragon-s4-against-nvidia-tegra-3
the Tegra 3 should probably shine when a Tegra 3 optimized app is used for comparison. not sure if you need special software framework to take advantage of the quad core +1
S4 build off the a15 takes the cake. Qualcomm did a great job with it.
some benchmarks indicate the tegra is more powerful and some indicate that the snapdragon is more powerful however it is ussually hinted that the snapdragon will provide similar performance but save battery because of its asynchronous dual cores. really it is all about software and drivers and nvidia is renowned for their developments in both. nvidia will get the game first, run them smoothly and display well optimized graphics. it doesn`t matter how pwerful the hardware is if the software can`t take advantage of it. this is clearly indicated in the last generation snapdragons which had terrible gpu issues due to poor gpu drivers. keep in mind however that many apps have not been optimised for quad core and may not run at their best.
Yes this is pretty well known here...each SoC has its own advantage over the other....specifically the Tegra3 should sin out GPU wise, while the S4 wins out in some other categories...
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Yes this is pretty well known here...each SoC has its own advantage over the other....specifically the Tegra3 should sin out GPU wise, while the S4 wins out in some other categories...
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Did you not see the video? S4 spanked tegra3 in the graphics benchmark
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Why was his tegra3 phone so much smaller? I thought they were both the same size just different soc?
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Why was his tegra3 phone so much smaller? I thought they were both the same size just different soc?
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They are the same size one phone was on display platform and the other was laying flat..... Basically both phones in different angles.
pretty intresting test breakup, tegra 3 looks to have cpu cores with a lot more omph but its extremely memory-starved, even if nominally it should have twice the mhz for memory than s4 (from the datasheet, dunno what kind of memory HTC actually shipped in that phone)
as for graphics its a bit funny that the S4 gpu core is a development of one ati/amd project(*), even here we have ati/amd VS nvidia showoff...
(*) selling their mobile division for pocket change just when mobile chips were starting to become the biggest cpu business in the world was really the stupidiest thing even done by amd...
Anyone else have the feeling S4 gonna spank the new G3 Exynos chip too ?
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Anyone else have the feeling S4 gonna spank the new G3 Exynos chip too ?
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Dont know about spank, but it will be on par with everything except for graphics. I would expect the exynos to be better because of the GPU.
Is it just me or does the speed of a processor matter anymore?
Seriously. I have tried murdering my 3D with tons of roms, multiple resource hungry apps, graphics intense games, fancy live wall papers, and STILL. She barely breaks a sweat.
I do understand bragging rights with fellow gadget heads but really as long as I can play my occasional game, listen to music, watch porn, and do my social thing, I'm happy as can be. Battery life is my bragging game now.
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Is it just me or does the speed of a processor matter anymore?
Seriously. I have tried murdering my 3D with tons of roms, multiple resource hungry apps, graphics intense games, fancy live wall papers, and STILL. She barely breaks a sweat.
I do understand bragging rights with fellow gadget heads but really as long as I can play my occasional game, listen to music, watch porn, and do my social thing, I'm happy as can be. Battery life is my bragging game now.
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I don't know about you, but I use the MEAN ROM and while it is the best ROM hands down, I still don't get the performance I would expect from a dual core phone. It is the best performer among other ROMS, but still not what I would expect in this day and age. When I am connected to WIFI, I would expect that my web pages (on device), load as fast as on my PC... or at least almost as fast. This has never been the case with any ROM or any phone. Once that happens, I will be close to happy.
I am guessing that the biggest limiter these days is the speed of internal memory? Does anyone know how that compares to PC memory?
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I don't know about you, but I use the MEAN ROM and while it is the best ROM hands down, I still don't get the performance I would expect from a dual core phone. It is the best performer among other ROMS, but still not what I would expect in this day and age. When I am connected to WIFI, I would expect that my web pages (on device), load as fast as on my PC... or at least almost as fast. This has never been the case with any ROM or any phone. Once that happens, I will be close to happy.
I am guessing that the biggest limiter these days is the speed of internal memory? Does anyone know how that compares to PC memory?
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That makes sense. But is it the gpu that makes it slower than a pc? I want faster page loading too.
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my evo 3d got 3500 in quadrant, nearly 2x of gtab at 810 megahertz. sk rom is crazy. However, I think the tegra 3 is better because companion core and doesn't afraid of anything.
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my evo 3d got 3500 in quadrant, nearly 2x of gtab at 810 megahertz. sk rom is crazy. However, I think the tegra 3 is better because companion core and doesn't afraid of anything.
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Companion core doesn't do anything sir, the 28 nm process on the s4 kills the tegra 3 in battery, even with 4glte on
Source: anandtech htc one x for att review
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I'm thinking I'm waiting for the s4 quad cores to come out. That will be epic
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Companion core doesn't do anything sir, the 28 nm process on the s4 kills the tegra 3 in battery, even with 4glte on
Source: anandtech htc one x for att review
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Tegra is still better because you have the privilege of having a tablet with 4 cores. If you say "oh I got a tablet with 2 ARM cortex 15 cores, nobodys gonna get what you're saying.".
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I'm thinking I'm waiting for the s4 quad cores to come out. That will be epic
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They already have them I believe its a 32 nm it has everything that the s4 has except the LTE
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They already have them I believe its a 32 nm it has everything that the s4 has except the LTE
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The 32nm quad core is by Samsung and is the Exynos SoC, not an S4...Currently the only S4 in the Qualcomm roadmap for this year is the APQ8064, and it has no modem so likely a tablet only chip...
Now the rumor of the VZ HTC phone for the holidays this year states they will have a quadcore S4 in it, which is odd given the roadmap leaks as the earliest MSM(these are the ones with built in modems) variant quad-core was not listed till Q1 of '13...
btw saw you got the credit for the EVOLTE buildprop and bootanimation leak on goodandevo man.