guys do you know if this phone will be able to play tegra 2 games ?
I guess chainfire3d is an app that lets you spoof the chipset id so software for a certain chip will run on any device. Haven't tried it yet, but it may be what we need. Games may run like crap but only time will tell. App is in the market.
The app requires root and s-off so no way to know for sure until the phone is released and the community finds full root.
do you know when it will be release in europe ? (greece)
i hope it will play tegra 2 games because is good games
This is also a big concern of mine. Im a bit of gamer, so I would love to have the tegra games. I have heard the dual core should help them run smooth.
The Adreno 220 GPU should be able to handle some hits I would imagine. It's too bad games are being developed that only the Tegra can handle that are so fun. Kinda taunt us by putting it in the Market and slapping "Tegra 2 only!" on it.
Chainfire 3D does allow that, but requires root access,
LearnIIBurn said:
The Adreno 220 GPU should be able to handle some hits I would imagine. It's too bad games are being developed that only the Tegra can handle that are so fun. Kinda taunt us by putting it in the Market and slapping "Tegra 2 only!" on it.
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Once we get root we will be able to run them no problem.
my Epic 4G ran all the tegra 2 games at full speed and looked great
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I just ordered my Galaxy S II from the UK, but there has been a question hangin over my head.
Will games that are optimized for Tegra 2 ( such as games in Tegra Zone ) work on the Galaxy S II with the Exynos chipset?
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I just ordered my Galaxy S II from the UK, but there has been a question hangin over my head.
Will games that are optimized for Tegra 2 ( such as games in Tegra Zone ) work on the Galaxy S II with the Exynos chipset?
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nope.
dungeon defender hd which was optimized for tegra did not work. samurai 2 does not work either.a real bummer
awesome-member said:
nope.
dungeon defender hd which was optimized for tegra did not work. samurai 2 does not work either.a real bummer
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Friut ninja hd, also doesnt work. Says that its optimised for tegra devices only.
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From reading other comments elsewhere it appeared that the Exynos chipset was better than the Tegra 2, or is the Tegra 2 just better in games?...
Tegra games will not work on any other GPU ATM
galaxy s and nexus s PowerVR sgx 540 and other high end GPUs are more than capable of running "tegra 2" games.
Not to mention the tegra 2 really isn't that much faster than the SGS NS sgx540 tegra has two CPU cores and from what i gathered when gaming it dedicated one core for system and the other strictly for games when gaming.
Nvidia is paying off developers just like they do on PC. only difference between mobile and PC though is that PC "nvidia meant to be played" games will still work on ATI
Not the same with other mobile GPUs unfortunately
Nvidia is ruining android by doing this exclusive BS
Also the SGS2 GPU should be on par if not faster than the tegra 2
^ Gotcha thanks!...
Not sure if this has been answered before, but this post seems like a good place for this discussion...
1. Why did samsung launch a phone under two different cpu's...
2. Doesn't this mean that when samsung goes to release an android update for the phone they have to make two different updates, one for each cpu?
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Not sure if this has been answered before, but this post seems like a good place for this discussion...
1. Why did samsung launch a phone under two different cpu's...
2. Doesn't this mean that when samsung goes to release an android update for the phone they have to make two different updates, one for each cpu?
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1. Probably due to the limited supply of Exynos CPUs
2. No, unless there needs to be a new driver written for the CPU (which is highly unlikely)
Nvidia is just causing some more fragmentation. As if we needed anymore.
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Not only that but AMD is actually getting into the Android hardware game so it's about to get even messier. I hope Google comes out with some kind of DirectX thing to help with this.
well this cant go on forever because HTC sensation also comin out with a different cpu. so we should see the games released in different versions for all dual core phones pretty soon.
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well this cant go on forever because HTC sensation also comin out with a different cpu. so we should see the games released in different versions for all dual core phones pretty soon.
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Wouldnt worry to much about that Most game developers make sure their game run on a wide selection of phones. Addapting a game to run on a new phone is not a lot of work, but increases the market potential. As mentioned before, Nvidia is paying developers to make the game tegra2 only. And luckely Nvidia is the only one doing this so far. A direct X solution for android could be a good medicine against the fragmentation, but I do know a certain hackers community that makes tegra 2 games playable on other devices. (have been playing galaxy on fire 2 for a while now) But XDA doesnt support linking to pirated software so I cannot share this, im sorry. (Google is your friend )
If the range of tegra 2 games will grow, there will be more interest in porting those games. Since its not very hard. Lets hope the hackers destroy the fragmentation haha.
As long as game developers stick to OpenGL ES specifications, all devices will be able to play the game (current). The device with more powerful GPU will obviously play it better.
What Nvidia is doing with Tegra is that they are making the sponsored game developers use the proprietary texture compression format that only Tegra Devices can run. This is what I have against Tegra Zone and Tegra as whole. The last thing we want is Nvidia playing dirty games they tried to play in PC gaming arena (they still do to some extent with PhysX and CUDA ).
So there is no real need to worry about developers having to code the game for each GPU core out there. Sensation might have different GPU but it will be OpenGL ES 2.x compatible just like Mali and others.
mahdibassam said:
I just ordered my Galaxy S II from the UK, but there has been a question hangin over my head.
Will games that are optimized for Tegra 2 ( such as games in Tegra Zone ) work on the Galaxy S II with the Exynos chipset?
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Samsung galaxy s and Desire HD can run tegra game ... why would world's fastest phone cannot run it????
Ur solution here...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSAJptywT8Q
Below the video , see description.. he has attached all files needed...
U need to root ur SGS2 and Install chaifire 3d... install nvidia driver.. it will run flawlessly....
here.. .http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1087427
http://samsunggalaxysforums.com/showthread.php/4949-Tegra-only-games-now-working-in-SGSII!
Enjoy...
mahdibassam said:
I just ordered my Galaxy S II from the UK, but there has been a question hangin over my head.
Will games that are optimized for Tegra 2 ( such as games in Tegra Zone ) work on the Galaxy S II with the Exynos chipset?
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Yes but you'll need to Root, download Chainfire3D and the NVidia Tegra patch.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1090032
I can confirm this works for some games...
These are the games I've tested thus far:
Samurai II: Vengeance runs very well - However their is a bug with opening the combo draw.
Pinball HD for Tegra runs flawlessly
Riptide GP doesn't load at all - Just a black screen and then crash to homescreen.
When I have the money I'll buy the other games later and post results later.
Our phones also use an OpenGL compression which no other phone uses as of this moment, so there is nearly 0 support for it at the moment
EDIT: I forgot to mention this is with the use of Chainfire 3D with the Tegra plugin.
Pinball HD is running even on my Xperia X10 with Chainfire 3d...
Samurai 2 ... runs on low texture but not playable on x10.... but i have seen videos of it running on SGS and Desire HD... so it will run on sgs2 too
Dont know about other games...
Has anyone figured out a way to run Tegra2 devoted games on our e3d correctly?
I've been on many boards asking this question. I would be so awesome if we could run Tegra games. The Adreno 220 is fully capable of doing so, we just need the right drivers.
I dont know if this helps now but probably will once we get root. Most Tegra games are only optimized for tegra processor however there is an app called chainfire that's supposed to make tegra 2 games playable on non tegra2 devices. There have been reports of it working for the samsung Galaxy S2 but the only requirement is you have root. So I'm hopeful it will work on our 3d once we get root.
I've seen a lot of threads discussing how much of a game-changer the Adreno 220 should be, and I've seen plenty of videos of benchmarks, but outside of Samurai II: Vengeance, I haven't seen any games that really "wow" me with their graphics.
I know we're on Android, and our market is fragmented to hell thanks to all of the hardware differences.
I'm coming from an HTC Evo 4G, which had fairly abysmal GPU performance.
Games I've tried so far:
Samurai II - Vengeance (awesome to see this kind of graphic quality AND framerate)
Dungeon Defenders: FW Deluxe (not my kind of game, but runs much better than on OG Evo)
Pocket Legends, which really isn't impressive
Any suggestions? I hate to give a thumbs-up to something in the iOS camp, but I really was impressed with Infinity Blade on my friend's iPhone4 and iPad2.
EDIT: I should clarify that I'm hoping to find something that looks better than a first-generation 3D Nintendo DS game, which the majority of Gameloft games look like.
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I've seen a lot of threads discussing how much of a game-changer the Adreno 220 should be, and I've seen plenty of videos of benchmarks, but outside of Samurai II: Vengeance, I haven't seen any games that really "wow" me with their graphics.
I know we're on Android, and our market is fragmented to hell thanks to all of the hardware differences.
I'm coming from an HTC Evo 4G, which had fairly abysmal GPU performance.
Games I've tried so far:
Samurai II - Vengeance (awesome to see this kind of graphic quality AND framerate)
Dungeon Defenders: FW Deluxe (not my kind of game, but runs much better than on OG Evo)
Pocket Legends, which really isn't impressive
Any suggestions? I hate to give a thumbs-up to something in the iOS camp, but I really was impressed with Infinity Blade on my friend's iPhone4 and iPad2.
EDIT: I should clarify that I'm hoping to find something that looks better than a first-generation 3D Nintendo DS game, which the majority of Gameloft games look like.
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Thanks for the heads up on samurai 2 I ma download it and back to topic well i don't think will see much till the next update of android(ice cream) is released and hopefully take advantage of the duel cores phones
If you don't have an Evo3d well you don't have an Evo3d
shymog said:
I've seen a lot of threads discussing how much of a game-changer the Adreno 220 should be, and I've seen plenty of videos of benchmarks, but outside of Samurai II: Vengeance, I haven't seen any games that really "wow" me with their graphics.
I know we're on Android, and our market is fragmented to hell thanks to all of the hardware differences.
I'm coming from an HTC Evo 4G, which had fairly abysmal GPU performance.
Games I've tried so far:
Samurai II - Vengeance (awesome to see this kind of graphic quality AND framerate)
Dungeon Defenders: FW Deluxe (not my kind of game, but runs much better than on OG Evo)
Pocket Legends, which really isn't impressive
Any suggestions? I hate to give a thumbs-up to something in the iOS camp, but I really was impressed with Infinity Blade on my friend's iPhone4 and iPad2.
EDIT: I should clarify that I'm hoping to find something that looks better than a first-generation 3D Nintendo DS game, which the majority of Gameloft games look like.
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Look up Chainfire3D, lets you run Tegra 2 games on your phone and the processor is more than capable of running it well!
Simple answer is that NO games take advantage of the Adreno 220 GPU. You can download Chainfire 3D for free from the marketplace, it's basically a video driver that enables you to play Tegra 2 exclusive games. Actually, this hardly even takes advantage at all of our hardware. You can actually run just about all of the Tegra exclusive games on the og Evo. Simple answer is that no current games take advantage of it. If you look at the iPhone 4, it has a powervr sgx535, which is about the equivalent of an Adreno 205, you can kind of get an idea how much faster the Adreno 220 is, don't forget we have a higher clock speed and an extra core. The stupid thing is though, is that technology is moving so fast, we are going to have quad-cores in our phones before apps and games take advantage of dual-core devices.
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Simple answer is that NO games take advantage of the Adreno 220 GPU. You can download Chainfire 3D for free from the marketplace, it's basically a video driver that enables you to play Tegra 2 exclusive games. Actually, this hardly even takes advantage at all of our hardware. You can actually run just about all of the Tegra exclusive games on the og Evo. Simple answer is that no current games take advantage of it. If you look at the iPhone 4, it has a powervr sgx535, which is about the equivalent of an Adreno 205, you can kind of get an idea how much faster the Adreno 220 is, don't forget we have a higher clock speed and an extra core. The stupid thing is though, is that technology is moving so fast, we are going to have quad-cores in our phones before apps and games take advantage of dual-core devices.
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Just like the ps3 hasn't been bush to its limits, man I remeber the first ps2 games how crappy the look and at the end they were looking so sweet (4-5 years later)
If you don't have an Evo3d well you don't have an Evo3d
The biggest issue is that we still don't have much to show off the OG Evo's Adreno. We don't have a "killer app" 3d game. Also, the whole Tegra thing ticks me off. I know nVidia is channeling money for exclusive games/features and ChainFire3D still has issues with some games (I have issues with GoF2 either having disappearing textures or FCs).
Qualcomm really needs to take some pride in the Adreno and start funding some developers.
I installed Chainfire, now how do I get access to tegra 2 games. I can't install tegra zone.
In ChainFire, choose "Fix Market", you won't be able to install Tegra Zone but you will be able to find THD games if you search by name.
i did the build. prop to play order and chaos and it allow me to install tegra zone on my evo 3d
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i did the build. prop to play order and chaos and it allow me to install tegra zone on my evo 3d
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what line/s did you add or edit?
How the hell did you get Dungeon Defenders working on your device? Keeps closing on me!
on this link you can find the instructions some one else posted on how to change to build.prop which allows for order and chaos to play and to instal the tegra zone app from the market. enjoy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1202235
ignore i posted in wrong place by mistake
Just thanked a few of you for your responses. I wanted to add a couple of things for clarification however (especially to any future readers). First off, the free version of Chainfire 3D ain't gonna do it. Second, after editing build.prop and installing Chainfire 3D, you have to install the Nvidia driver (like explained in the tutorial link in an earlier post). THEN, (after possibly a few re-boots as described in the tutorial) you have to download whatever nvidia game you want. Now my experience was that when I launched the game by tapping on the icon, it didn't look right or it would force close. I actually had to open Chainfire 3D, then play with the settings for each app and launch them from within Chainfire.
Now I've got Galaxy on Fire 2 running pretty well. I love a good hack!
So we have this awesome GPU/CPU in the 3vo and I want to play some tegra games, now I know in order to do that we need Chainfire3d, but my real question here is were can I purchase/download tegra games... I don't see links on the market ...
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So we have this awesome GPU/CPU in the 3vo and I want to play some tegra games, now I know in order to do that we need Chainfire3d, but my real question here is were can I purchase/download tegra games... I don't see links on the market ...
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If you buy chainfire pro and install it theres a option in there to fix market after you load the Nvidia drivers (you need to google for the drivers). Basically what happens is it will tell the Market you have a tegra2 device so it should allow all the tegra games to show up.
Note: Even with chainfire not all games will work. Only way to find this out is when you try the game. Or you can check the chainfire thread to see what games work.
Wouldn't this make the Tegra games perform worse though? Since it's a form of emulation.
Honestly, not sure if it's worth the trouble. I have a Tegra tablet, and I tried downloading a THD game that I already have on my Evo: Samurai II.
The difference was neglible really.
I was wondering if it's possible to use Chainfire3D to run Tegra 3 games on the SIII. I'd try it but I don't have an SIII yet.
I too am wondering this, or if it is any possibillity to make an app like chainfire 3d which allows us to run tegra 3 specific games on our samesung galaxy s III.
Mali-400 has the ower, but tegra 3 has the game compabillity.
chainfire 3D runs perfectly on my SIII and it smoothly runs Fruit ninja, Riptide HD and Samurai II
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chainfire 3D runs perfectly on my SIII and it smoothly runs Fruit ninja, Riptide HD and Samurai II
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What settings do you use on Chainfire ? I keep getting the device not supported message on Samurai II and other games
Thank you
Edit : wrong plugin loaded =)
Yeah I am trying to get Shadowgun the tegra 3 version to run but no joy, the sgs 2 is able to run it with chainfire3d.
The aforementioned games aren't Tegra exclusives any more.Try running the THD version of ShadowGun,Renaissance Blood,Glowball for Tegra 3 etc,they won't play even with CF3D.Unless someone makes a Tegra 3 plugin,or unless Chainfire manages to do his magic to crap all over NVidia's crappy chipset,the S3 unfortunately won't be able to play Tegra 3 titles.
That is 50% of why I hate NVidia so much.The other 50% is the fact that they haven't even managed to directly compete against anyone.Their chipsets are so crappy at a short time after the release,even if they make us drool at first,that they aren't even worth the money.
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That is 50% of why I hate NVidia so much.The other 50% is the fact that they haven't even managed to directly compete against anyone.Their chipsets are so crappy at a short time after the release,even if they make us drool at first,that they aren't even worth the money.
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I personally love nvidia, for their desktop GPUs that is