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Hi Guys,
just got my Galaxy Tab 10.1 (PT7500 / 16GB / 3G) yesterday.
Great Tab so far!
But still i recognize one downturn:
When compared to an iPad2, the screen response in drawing/sketching apps is less then satisfactory. I'd even go so far to deem this unusuable - no matter whether is use a capacitive stylus or my finger.
The touchscreen simply lags about 5mm / 1 sec. in response time.
Anyone else experienced this?
Is this by design? HW fault? SW fault?
Basically, the 10.1 is by this nearly unusuable as sketchpad - which is one of my major use cases here.
Maybe someone has experienced something similar?
Thanks very much for any response on this!
Best regards,
Klaas.
Hi Guys,
just to add to this:
I have made some comparisons again on this issue and found that the Galaxy Tab Touchscreen is seriously "lagging behind" when drawing on it.
When using an iPad drawing App (Sketchpad), the response to the touch is instantenous, on the Galaxy Tab the lines drag behind the finger.
Please see attached two comparison drawings:
The Sketch Pad Document is from an iPad 2
The 1.jpg is done with Big Fat Canvas on the Galaxy Tab 10.1
Both are made with the same capacitive pencil and written in the same speed.
Interestingly enough: When i draw VERY slowly, the result on the Galaxy Tab is as good as on the iPad.
So it seems to be a software problem of the Samsung Touchscreen driver being not very well written. Anyone can confirm that?
Furthermore, i did some more quick comparisons of Android tablets in our local electronics store and found that they're all very different:
- ASUS Transformer comes most closely to iPad
- Motorola XOOM behind
- ACER Iconia very sluggish
The Samsung ties in somewhere in the middle.
Interestingly enough i haven't found any discussion in the web on this topic...
Looking forward to any feedback anyone might be able to give on that!
Best regards,
Klaas.
well, i can just say that dragging items on the home screen is ridiculously slow... This isnt a smooth operation at all!
I am absolutely with you!!! Maybe everyone can program a new driver, but i think it have to do with the energy settings:-(
BTW: I reported this to Samsung Support and their answer was (what else?)
"Factory Reset, if no use, please send in for repair"
Also, Adobe Sketchbook brought the same result.
It seems that the Android multitasking gets in the way of a decent polling interval of the touchscreen - or so it seems. When more apps are running in background, the touchscreen gets more laggy...
I'm interested to see whether this improves in newer Android versions - as it's currently an Android Tab is not really usefull as sketchpad...
Best regards,
Klaas.
Use sgs touchscreen booster! In will help a little bit
I also have the same issue. Using Sketchbook Pro, and even the included memo app, is completely unusable. Tried sga touchscreen booster as well and it made a little difference, but not enough to make me able to draw or write anything. The Asus Transformer is much better as a sketching thingy.
Has there been any development on this?
Is with stock Honeycomb 3.1 or Touchwiz? I noticed after "upgrading" to touchwiz that the touchscreen responsiveness got much worse. i ended up going back to regular Honeycomb 3.1.
Mine's with touchwiz out of the box (the 3g version). I figured that touchwiz might be the problem. What is the best rom out there?
Hi guys, I'm the developer of a stylus-writing app (https://market.android.com/details?id=com.writepad) and after getting a lot of complaints from Galaxy tab users, decided to buy one and test it against my Asus Transformer. Here are some results. My stylus is the AYL: http://www.amazon.com/Newest-Genera...rranty/dp/B004HO86P6/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
Side by side, with the Samsung on the left and Asus on the right. Using the free app Maple Paint.
You can see from the W's that there are way fewer touch events from the Samsung touch screen. THat's why the corners are rounded. I had to confirm, so I did a similar test on my own app. The Asus registered 1076 touch events, while the Samsung registered around 600.
When I look at the actual MotionEvents, some differences: Pressure from Asus is around 0.8, and 0.13 on the Samsung. "Size" and "tool" are 0 on the Asus, and non-zero on Samsung.
Also, when you rest your palm on the screen, Samsung's touchscreen becomes unresponsive (even more so). The Asus has no such problem.
Is this a hardware or firmware issue? Will 3.2 update help?
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Hi guys, I'm the developer of a stylus-writing app (https://market.android.com/details?id=com.writepad) and after getting a lot of complaints from Galaxy tab users, decided to buy one and test it against my Asus Transformer. Here are some results. My stylus is the AYL: http://www.amazon.com/Newest-Genera...rranty/dp/B004HO86P6/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
Is this a hardware or firmware issue? Will 3.2 update help?
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I will try different software/firmware versions "side-by-side" when I get home to see if there's any improvement with the newer updates.
Is the Asus you tested with running Honeycomb 3.2 ?
Edit:
Have you taken your app "writepad stylus" off the market?
I paid for it (some weeks ago) and can't find it any more on the market.
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I will try different software/firmware versions "side-by-side" when I get home to see if there's any improvement with the newer updates.
Is the Asus you tested with running Honeycomb 3.2 ?
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Have you taken your app "writepad stylus" off the market?
I paid for it (some weeks ago) and can't find it any more on the market.
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Yeah Asus on 3.2, Samsung on 3.1 (though that's probably not the issue). I just ran Software update on samsung and it's on the latest firmware.
Writepad Stylus is here: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.writepad
version 2 is out
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Yeah Asus on 3.2, Samsung on 3.1 (though that's probably not the issue). I just ran Software update on samsung and it's on the latest firmware.
Writepad Stylus is here: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.writepad
version 2 is out
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I get "the requested item could not be found" when I click on the install button.
Thanks to transceiver for that nice comparison and testing of the handwriting app. I bought the new Samsung 10.1 tab with one of the primary intentions to use it to take handwritten notes during meetings and work sessions.
The Samsung's screen responsiveness is a great dissapointment and propably the worse I have seen of the current top "name brand" tablets. It is extremely sluggish in comparison to the rest and handwriting on it is almost impossible unless you write very slowly. Very frustrating indeed.
Let's hope they take note of this issue and can fix it with a firmware upgrade.
Returned Tab
I had the same problem. I actually returned my galaxy tab just because of this. I loved it but the iPad2 was far more responsive with handwriting. I use my tablet to jot ideas down and annotate very often. The slow Samsung tab was not adequate.
Yeah guys. Unfortunately it seems like both graphic driver and touchscreen sampling rate is crap. Made
Some small video and sent it to Samsung. They just did not care. Video is here:
http://youtu.be/0YAwpEK1Urc
I hope that soon the ics sources are released and we can replace the Samsung crap by something useable as CM8
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wavy lines
just attached an image to show u guys what happens with a capacitive stylus
Absolute garbage if any one wants to do a simple sketch
Drawing diagonals produces wavy un even lines when drawn slowly with a capacitive stylus, hence any curve or circle comes out uneven
Can any of you post what happens when u draw a circle slowly or draw diagonals slowly using ur capacitive stylus
Want to know if its just my tablets problem
+ 1 It is totally unusable for anything then 5 year old finger painting.
Any devs looking at a possible fix?
Go to 10.1 Dev section .... check out the thread solving touchscreen sensitivity! Works like a charm .. handwriting works like how I like it now! Must get it!
Hello everyone,
Need your help folks.
I need a tablet for my 9 years old boy, and I am a newbie.....
I thought about either Asus Transformer or Galaxy 10'
- fast browser with flash, youtube, facebook
- skype with video
- avi, mp4 etc playback ( I dont want to convert files, I want to play them stright
after downloading)
- easy data transfer from my PC
- GPS navigation (copilot, igo etc) without using data
- some games working like : moshi monsters and android stuff (I ve got Galaxy 2)
Do I need a custom ROM for all above options?
Please share your thoughts, I ve got 2 weeks to make the decision.
Thank you for your help
Can I be your son?
What you ask is possible. And maybe look at what friends his age are using in general?
I'm just curious because I have a 5 year old, do his 9 year old friends also have a laptop or tablet?
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- fast browser with flash, facebook YES
- fast youtube NO
- avi, mp4 etc playback ( I dont want to convert files, I want to play them stright after downloading) NO
- easy data transfer from my PC NO
- GPS navigation (copilot, igo etc) without using data YES
- some games working like : moshi monsters and android stuff (I ve got Galaxy 2) YES
- laggy user interface YES
Do I need a custom ROM for all above options? NO
Please share your thoughts, I ve got 2 weeks to make the decision.
Thank you for your help
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My thoughts? especially if you are into video thingy (and you don't want to convert it), forget honeycomb tablets. Just buy Samsung Galaxy Tab P1000 or HTC Flyer instead.. they run every and everything smooth and stable !
Is the tab just for him? Not trying to be rude, but I can't understand why a 9 year old needs a tab. Wants yes (mine does) but not need.
My oldest is 10 and he has a mid-range laptop. He gets some use for school, but mostly he uses it for playing games. I can control to an extent what he sees and does while surfing, and at the least keep close tabs on what he does online. I wouldn't think that's possible with a tab.
yeah, can't do something wrong for your son.
LOL I dont think GPS navigation, skype & facebook is for his son !
No. No 10" tablet has the right price/durability ratio for a 9-year-old kid.
Too expensive and too easy to break. Cheap netbook is the solution for kids - more durable, far cheaper.
It will be great for your 9 year old son... until he discovers "free porn"
qwerty1q said:
Hello everyone,
Need your help folks.
I need a tablet for my 9 years old boy, and I am a newbie.....
I thought about either Asus Transformer or Galaxy 10'
- fast browser with flash, youtube, facebook YES
- skype with video NO, I USE FRING. Works on Android and iOS.
- avi, mp4 etc playback ( I dont want to convert files, I want to play them stright
after downloading) YES. I use Handbrake to make mp4 files that play directly on Tab and iPad
- easy data transfer from my PC Depends. Who's doing the transfer, you or him? It's easy to use File Manager HD and connect to a LAN share and then Copy/Paste to the Tab. That's how I get the mp4 files to the Tab. Easy for you, might be tougher for him.
- GPS navigation (copilot, igo etc) without using data YES. It's a very, very nice GPS device.
- some games working like : moshi monsters and android stuff (I ve got Galaxy 2) YES
Do I need a custom ROM for all above options? NO, mine is stock, unrooted.
Please share your thoughts, I ve got 2 weeks to make the decision. TAB is the top of the food chain and most expensive. If budget isn't an issue then go for it.
Thank you for your help
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One caveat: Unlike the iPad no password entry is required when making a purchase in the market. DO NOT have a credit card number in his Google account. That way he can't purchase apps or make in-app purchases without typing in a credit card number.
Entropy512 said:
No. No 10" tablet has the right price/durability ratio for a 9-year-old kid.
Too expensive and too easy to break. Cheap netbook is the solution for kids - more durable, far cheaper.
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+1. Make sure you get a warranty with accidental damage. I'm sure your kid is great, but it takes only one drop to ruin these things.
Have you ever used a tablet? It's not the same as a PC. Many things still don't work. One of your requirements is that video work without transcoding. You're not going to get that from a tablet (I use three seperate video programs because some work for some files, and some files just need to be transcoded. It's hit or miss). I don't believe there is a data-free gps solution just yet (someone correct me if I'm wrong). The "fast" browser is still buggy, and pressing buttons or drop down menus can still be a problem. Finally, for a 9-year-old kid there isn't much in the way of parental controls for android yet. If he can use google, he's going to find all kinds of interesting content...
My advice would be the same: get him a cheap netbook. If you really want him to have a tablet, get one of the smaller lighter ones (7") or at least one of the burlier ones (like the iconia or the xoom) so it can take a short drop. There are a lot of smaller lighter choices from china; build quality sucks but they cost less than half this much and have much of the same functionality. The GT10 is very thin (which is why I like it), but it is also far more likely to be damaged by a short fall or a wrong step. At least go to the store and have the kid play around with one for a few minutes, see if he can find his way around it without help (or you will become tech support...).
Good luck! Please post back your experiences. Many of us will be interested in how your kid takes to a tablet computer.
Find out what your kid wants the tablet for games etc or just surfing the net my son is 14 bought him a iPad for xmass never plays it he just wanted it for hell of it
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GPS/Navigation without data
Is that really possible? I tried to open up maps/google nav without being connected to wifi and got a pop up stating I needed a data connection to use the app. Since then I have pre-cached certain areas on maps but as far as turn by turn directions doesn't that need data?
Let me put it this way, my son is 4 years old. I let him play with my iPad and my SGT 7", and he does just fine with them, he's gentle, and treats them with care. He can navigate through them like nobody's business. He'd probably be fine using my SGT 10.1, but I won't let him mess with it simply because it's not as rigid (tough) as the other two, and accidents can happen. If you do end up getting your son an SGT 10.1, I suggest getting a rugged case for it like an Otterbox. (though that defeats the form-factor if you're getting it for thinness)
qwerty1q said:
Hello everyone,
Need your help folks.
I need a tablet for my 9 years old boy, and I am a newbie.....
I thought about either Asus Transformer or Galaxy 10'
- fast browser with flash, youtube, facebook
- skype with video
- avi, mp4 etc playback ( I dont want to convert files, I want to play them stright
after downloading)
- easy data transfer from my PC
- GPS navigation (copilot, igo etc) without using data
- some games working like : moshi monsters and android stuff (I ve got Galaxy 2)
Do I need a custom ROM for all above options?
Please share your thoughts, I ve got 2 weeks to make the decision.
Thank you for your help
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If there is one thing that i will say for the apple ipad2 it is that they are for kids and old people. If its for your 9 year old son, i would deffinately get him an ipad. But if you need things like flash then i would go for a netbook. There are many good options, small form factor, things like that.
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Lol I say no because of porn wait til he becomes 15 .
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iloveandroid16 said:
Lol I say no because of porn wait til he becomes 15 .
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Yeah, because he won't be interested in porn when he's 15...
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Stop the madness
Galaxy TAB.. NO NO NOT for a 9 year old unless you have an otterbox defender case which will never be realease. Otterbox had a press statement that said they will not be producing any otterbox accessores for the Samsung Galaxy tab 10.1. (a bummer I know)
Now my 4 Year old daughter has an ipad 1 encased in the otterbox defender series case. I have all types of books and learning apps on there for her and she loves it. Even have her movies on it (64GB Ipad 1 3G & Wi-fi) sure we don't use the 3G but I only paid $300 for it on ebay. I must also state that while I think children should get used to these things early my daughter is not your average 4 year old. She actually reads on a 2nd grade level. I think the IPAD 1 should be considered you can get one cheap on Ebay or CraigsList. I don't like apple's locked down devices however I couldn't find nearly as many Educational apps (formatted for tablets).. just my 2 cents. I am by no means an apple fanboy. I have the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and I have the Nook Color.. My wife uses the Xoom.
So I know everyone on here is pretty much upgrading to the Galaxy Note from at&t or getting it as their first phone?
I was just curious what everyone's main reasons are for choosing the galaxy note as their new smartphone/mini-tablet?
My top 3 reasons are:
1. Watching movies is dumb on my iPhone 4S; I want a bigger screen. (Especially when I am doing cardio at the gym; put the phone down, pop on my Bluetooth headset and I will be good to go.)
2. I am studying Cisco Certification Exams and using the Kindle app on this phone with all my books for studying will be awesome to have to take with me and be able to read in my spare time.
3. I hate how limiting the iPhone can be and want something more customizable, I went from my Samsung Infuse to the iPhone 4S and now I am going back to android to have my phone the way I want when I want.
How about you?
- Dan
It's an all in one solution for all of my electronic needs
- Phone
- Voice recorder
- GPS
- E-book reader
- Game console (w/ bluetooth controller + hdmi tv output)
- Laptop (w/ bluetooth keyboard + usb mouse)
- Television (w/ wifi + netflix & hulu)
- Camera
- Music player
- Flashcards
- Drug guide for clinicals
Graduate school. Don't want a tablet. Laptop is a pain in the butt. Can't afford an ultrabook. . . .
#1 most important thing to mean is that big beautiful screen.
The closer was the LTE.
The big screen first and foremost. For watching video, and superb web browsing.
Having a great GPS finally after 1 1/2 years of Captivate's bad GPS.
I talk on a cell phone about 60 minutes a month so I want a smartphone more for the entertainment/tablet aspect of it and still be able to fit it in a pocket. So the Note will be perfect for that.
1.The size of the screen makes everything better from games,movies,web and dialing/texting
2.This phone Reminds me of my skyrocket which i think is the best phone out
3. The S-pen i am very interested and anxious to start playing with this and hoping this will be implemented in future apps/games
The biggest reason is of course the big and beautiful screen. I want to be able to watch netflix and stream other videos on the go. I also just like the big size of the phone. I have an Inspire right now and it's decently sized, but my big hands just need more real estate.
Forgot to add that I want the front facing camera so I can skype.
ap3604 said:
It's an all in one solution for all of my electronic needs
- Phone
- Voice recorder
- GPS
- E-book reader
- Game console (w/ bluetooth controller + hdmi tv output)
- Laptop (w/ bluetooth keyboard + usb mouse)
- Television (w/ wifi + netflix & hulu)
- Camera
- Music player
- Flashcards
- Drug guide for clinicals
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We'll have to use the sixaxis app right?
At this point for me the screen alone is the biggest want. That is solely the most important feature if the device itself. Not the processor. Not the camera. Not the OS. Not even the s-pen (although for me it is a close 2nd most important). But the display & screen.
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HarmonyFlame said:
At this point for me the screen alone is the biggest want. That is solely the most important feature if the device itself. Not the processor. Not the camera. Not the OS. Not even the s-pen (although for me it is a close 2nd most important). But the display & screen.
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X2
Had the Dell Streak and now I've gotta have the biggest screen cant go backwards
The phone is great itself. My daughter loves to draw.. so she wants this phone as much I do.. the screen size is awesome!!! .. and my wife.. well I guess ima give her my skyrocket.. lol
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1. I need more memory for apps. I have been constricted by the Nexus One's internal memory for about a year and a half now.
2. LTE
3. Bigger screen to use in my car with a dock.
Giant awesome screen
Its new lol
Need something to make use of my new 64gb card
I love the skyrocket and its basically a bigger one
imitenotbecrazy said:
Giant awesome screen
Its new lol
Need something to make use of my new 64gb card
I love the skyrocket and its basically a bigger one
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Can they take the 64gb SD cards? And the reason I purchased mine is the screen size and resolution. I use my phone like my PC for when I am not on my PC. Simple as that. Facebook, web browsing, texting, etc. Only thing I need my PC for now is the awesome gaming. That is one thing mobile devices will never do better.
The main thing that drew me to the Note was the stylus. As an old Palm girl, I miss it - the stylus will be so much more precise. An improved GPS is a huge draw, having been suffering with the crappy Captivate GPS now for so long. The big screen is also a plus, for old eyes
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Can they take the 64gb SD cards? And the reason I purchased mine is the screen size and resolution. I use my phone like my PC for when I am not on my PC. Simple as that. Facebook, web browsing, texting, etc. Only thing I need my PC for now is the awesome gaming. That is one thing mobile devices will never do better.
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I have the international Note and yes it reads my new Sandisk 64GB microSD fine.
rgarjr said:
I have the international Note and yes it reads my new Sandisk 64GB microSD fine.
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you got a link for that card ?
Eric-1987 said:
Can they take the 64gb SD cards? And the reason I purchased mine is the screen size and resolution. I use my phone like my PC for when I am not on my PC. Simple as that. Facebook, web browsing, texting, etc. Only thing I need my PC for now is the awesome gaming. That is one thing mobile devices will never do better.
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My skyrocket sees and utelizes it just fine so I dont see why the Note wouldnt. If it doesnt out of the box Im sure a rom would fix that. Dont see why not though.
BTW just checked and my captivate also recognizes and can access the files fine as well
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My skyrocket sees and utelizes it just fine so I dont see why the Note wouldnt. If it doesnt out of the box Im sure a rom would fix that. Dont see why not though.
BTW just checked and my captivate also recognizes and can access the files fine as well
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No **** I thought it wouldn't...I have a Galaxy S4G I didn't think it was capable of seeing that big of an SD card.
phillyrican said:
you got a link for that card ?
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http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-microSD-Extended-Capacity-microSDXC/dp/B0063W7XJK/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1329187163&sr=8-4
I have been looking for a tablet for myself. Mostly, for note/lectures taking and reading. And also for remote connections to Linux machines, when I'm at the beach for example.
When I first saw it, I immediately understood that I had to have it. I bought Android version through Lenovo website. Windows just doesn't make sense to me on this device, it is not powerful enough, and it is a tablet! It is not supposed to replace a laptop. I don't find Windows apps ecosystem as good for mobile devices, as Android.
Waited about a week. Was very excited, when I finally got a package (yeah, I know, I'm a grown-up baby ). And, unfortunately, was disappointed right out of the box. The screen was defective (I even posted it here, lol): uneven color temperature to such level, that I cannot stand. But, I decided to give it a try anyways.
1. Hardware is impressive. Tablet looks fantastic. Sound is very good for the device of this size. I'm still blown away by a case itself. I liked the hinge, and how you can easily transform the tablet.
2. Halo keyboard looks futuristic. And it is OK for typing. I saw many reviews heavily criticizing it, but it is fine. Yes, you cannot type as fast, as on the mechanical keyboard, but it is still much faster than on the on-screen keyboard. Well, touchpad is bad and doesn't support multi-touch (though manual suggests it does), but I actually don't think one needs a touchpad on Android, so I don't complain here.
3. Drawing and note-taking on the Wacom surface is reliable and was a good experience for me. It is a little bit awkward in the beginning to physically write not directly on top of the area where image appears, but it is very easy to get used to. No buttons on the pen though.
4. Atom CPU is more than enough, device felt very responsive overall. However, I did notice it stuttered while charging, probably due to thermal throttling. But on battery I didn't notice any performance issues with the apps I used.
5. Now comes a weak part. Software.
I liked the taskbar, it is nice and useful, but overall, stock software feels like it is a beta version, and it is very basic (to say the least). Especially Lenovo apps (including note-taking). Well, not a real minus, since there are good apps in Google Store. But Lenovo Android customizations definitely need polishing.
Multi-window is almost useless, you cannot resize apps, but only have a smartphone-like size. And in windowed mode apps very often crash (I actually don't remember, when was the last time anything crashed on my Nexus 5, but I root-customized it...).
Some settings simply don't work: no matter what you do, it resets itself back to the default value. For some reason, I couldn't select my Google account as a backup account... Encryption is enabled by default, and you cannot disable it (it actually resulted in a factory reset, see below). Transition animations constantly turned on/off by themselves. And manual is simply inconsistent with the actual software.
I didn't find an easy way to switch Halo keyboard languages.
No customization for note-taking app: every time you switch to Wacom input mode, annoying Lenovo note-taking small window appears, and you have to close it in order to continue drawing in your app.
I had a nasty experience with an update. While updating everything seemed normal, but on the final boot I got a message "Encryption failed. Your tablet will be factory reset". And, yep, I got a completely fresh system, but it was updated. :good: And since there was no option to use my Google account for backup, I had to reinstall and reconfigure everything again. :silly:
Taking all that into account with my initial hardware problem, I just decided to return my YogaBook. I should say, it does feel sad a little bit as it is a very unique device. Honestly, I really wanted to love this device. But it definitely needs polishing, and if you're not a gadget enthusiast, you probably should wait for the next version.
disagree in all points
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Hanfried said:
disagree in all points
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Sure. Do you disagree on all points or only on negative ones?
I really wanted to love this device. Well, I'm returning mine anyways because of the screen issue. I went with my YogaBook to BestBuy and compared it to other tablets, and yep, even Samsung Tab A 10.1'' has a better screen than my tablet. This is definitely unacceptable.
I'm not 100% sure though, if I should just return it or actually do an exchange. But I'm returning, because in this case, if I change my mind, I can purchase a new one (hopefully, without screen defects) (effectively do an "exchange").
If you could be so kind, and point out to me how to fix these software glitches, I would really appreciate it.
couldnt agree more. I personally contacted lenovo in order to return the yoga book too. so disappointed. I think they should have installed Chromebook OS
BTW, I also had the problem with the upgrade and I had to reset everything...
Just curious . . . .
Don't you think the problems will be solved with updates? It is a new product after all. :silly:
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Don't you think the problems will be solved with updates? It is a new product after all. :silly:
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Maybe. That's why I say one should wait for another version.
I have bought Samsung Galaxy Tab A 10.1 with S Pen, and this tablet actually performs much better than YogaBook, despite lower specs. Moreover, it actually feels much more comfortable to write directly on the screen.
I just got mine in uae and despite its flaws i really love this device because of the battery life, sound, display and the wacom stylus. Sure the halo keyboard needs some more work but otherwise it works as intended. Just waiting for someone to make a remix os for this.
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Maybe. That's why I say one should wait for another version.
I have bought Samsung Galaxy Tab A 10.1 with S Pen, and this tablet actually performs much better than YogaBook, despite lower specs. Moreover, it actually feels much more comfortable to write directly on the screen.
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I pulled the trigger and am going to give it a try. The biggest selling point for me is being able to take notes on paper and pen and then have handwriting recognition do its magic.
Also, there is "Any Pen" support for writing directly on the screen. Though it is not perfect, it should be enough for me.
Admittedly, I am still not 100% convinced and I will let you know how it goes when I get my hands on it.
i picked one up at last friday, i wanted a light decent 10 inch android tablet for mostly browsing, evernote and messing on, the keyboard is a compromise but suits my needs, if im going to do a large amount of typing ill do it on my desktop pc, I personally really like it overall but I just hope they bring Nougat to it so we can atleast have the 2 window option, other than that i lowered the dpi because it was far too high for me, and hopefully we get root soon so i can force chrome to always display desktop sites, as mobile sites on a 10 inch tablet is stupid.
oh i also wish you could scroll easily with the trackpad but i guess thats an Android limitation.
Yeah true that really need that nougat. Has anyone tried installing remix os on their yoga book?
bisharat said:
Yeah true that really need that nougat. Has anyone tried installing remix os on their yoga book?
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I ůove this device so much but i must totaly agree that Lenovo should agree with jide and Remix OS should be preinstalled as the lenovo modified android realy sucks and is inmature... BTW i am intersted in same Did anyone?
I love it, you have to get used to it
Got mine few days ago.
I love it.
It takes some adjusting of workflows, but it is new, it is different, it is astonishing! Those are the reasons I bought it!.
HINGE IS MIND BLOWING!!!
Coming from range of tablets (Samsung 7" once upon a time, 10.1 Samsung, Xperia tablet z...) and many phones from different manufacturers, keeping just glass/glass as lite motiv (iPhone 4,xperia z1, S6 edge, S7 edge) I confirm it is different!
Missing lot of Samsung staf, missing lot of IOS stuff, but who cares. Playstore can provide all needed apps for my life/work stile.
It is little bit havy, looking at you keybd, but it has a keybd. For others I had to buy separate one. Halo is not a PC (Mak) keybd, but tablet is not a PC nor Mak. This just works It would be nice to change halo keybd (what you can see) but I can live with German layout I've got, just installed swift and off we go!
The only thing that is a real problem is waterproofing! I was so happy reading in a hot bath! When Experia started leaking it really hurts!
If someone knows about waterproof light case for yoga, please, pretty please let me know!
Everything else will solve it self out, root, android 7.... Just have some patience. XDA always brought a solution. For doubtful - check HTC HD forums...I forgot about my 2 phones, but development is still kicking!
Just that waterproofing IP 68 anybody?
P.S. You can swipe with mousepad, in android, just not 2 finger like manual is promissing.
I got mine today and I love it, but there are things (mostly software) that are bafflingly annoying... I got this device with the idea I could utilize Netflix's offline downloading feature only to find out it's not compatible... wtf... fail...
I got mine about three weeks ago and I'm quite happy with it. I "forgot" my work laptop in my office before Xmas and I was able to survive with my Yogabook (LTE version) so far. Android MS Office apps work sufficiently well for me. VPN and Citrix Terminal Client do their job. I only use my apps in full window mode because the task bar does the job for me. Yes, it's very basic but ok for me.
I had a lot of stability issues in the beginning. I figured out that most of the apps were installed on the 128 GB sd card by default. After moving all (no exceptions) apps to internal storage, there were no crashes anymore. I already used this solution for another Android device with lots of crashes.
It took a while to get used to the keyboard but it is possible to do 10 finger typing at medium speed after some training. I just had to switch off the word completion feature because it began to drive me crazy.
After watching some Youtube videos from an artist who uses his Yogabook as a professional drawing device, I even became motivated to try it out myself. Before I just used the pen to take some notes in Evernote. It's actually quite some fun to use it for drawing and I had to buy the add-on stuff of the ArtFlow app.
Yes, it's annoying that it is not possible to download stuff to the tablet via the Netflix app. Amazon, Spotify, and Maxdome download content works well, however, in offline mode. The HDMI output to an HD TV or a projector looks good, too. Both for video streaming and Powerpoint presentations.
In summary, I'm quite happy with it ... even as an unplanned replacement for my work laptop ...
the drawing surface work with other apps or just the lenovo drawing app? for example Adobe sketch
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the drawing surface work with other apps or just the lenovo drawing app? for example Adobe sketch
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It works great with Sketchbook, Infinite Painter, Layer Paint. However somehow most brushes do not work with Corel painter.
I personally find drawing on Yogabook to be more responsive and less alggy than compared to my Samsung 10.1 2014.
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It works great with Sketchbook, Infinite Painter, Layer Paint. However somehow most brushes do not work with Corel painter.
I personally find drawing on Yogabook to be more responsive and less alggy than compared to my Samsung 10.1 2014.
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I used so far without issues: ArtFlow and ArtRage for Drawing, Evernote and Lenovo Note Taker for handwritten notes, Ez PDF for annotating pdf documents.
For my purposes, the pen is very accurate and responsive. In ArtFlow the pen pressure dependent line thickness and color intensity work very well.
Small addition. It survived nasti drop from table height in the office, rough terrain (PC, table legs, chair legs).
Ugly dent in metal and some scratches. That is a drawback of metal build! Glass glass will shater or survive without evidence.
BUT IT WORKS no problem at all!
Stupid question
How to @ on the Halo keyboard?
Shift + @
Unnstall your niagara launcher sports fans, it is trash.
now brace yourselves, this fascist is about to shill a commie launcher
google play defaults to the tablet version of yandex's launcher for surface duo 2 and it is delightful.
between the other 3 ive tried: micrisoft, niagara, nova prime; yandex is easily my fave so far...
other than the same rotation bugs you get with windows launcher, the only glaring issues ive noticed are that sometimes when switching from 1 screen mode to dual screen mode, the second screen will stay off about 10-15 seconds after u unfold it, the app drawer in 1 screen portait mode cuts off the 5th row of apps, and i dont see an option to change the number of rows in the drawer.
other than that, this launcher works like it was made.for dual screen...
or maybe we shouldn have been trying the tablet versions of laiunchers this whole time?
good god. in almost 2 years this thread has had not even 20 posts. is xda just not as popular as it used to be? cuz, granted my last 3 or 4 phones have been somewhat obscure, they still had hype. more than this warrants. yeesh
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good god. in almost 2 years this thread has had not even 20 posts. is xda just not as popular as it used to be? cuz, granted my last 3 or 4 phones have been somewhat obscure, they still had hype. more than this warrants. yeesh
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I think, and would have to agree, that people are scared to invested in the duo after all of the software bugs from the door along with the demise of windows phone. if they just added an android emulator, I would have delt with it. However, to just eol the phone and os just hurt.
Anyway, I have been running nova and from time to time, I have a problem with touch response. is it any better? Is that why you changed launchers?
I use my duo in phone mode most of the time and even pocket it like that. Maybe I don't see many issues because of that?
PS. Love your Pic. Carlin was a prophet! Played a good cardinal too!
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I think, and would have to agree, that people are scared to invested in the duo after all of the software bugs from the door along with the demise of windows phone. if they just added an android emulator, I would have delt with it. However, to just eol the phone and os just hurt.
Anyway, I have been running nova and from time to time, I have a problem with touch response. is it any better? Is that why you changed launchers?
I use my duo in phone mode most of the time and even pocket it like that. Maybe I don't see many issues because of that?
PS. Love your Pic. Carlin was a prophet! Played a good cardinal too!
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the short answer to ur first quesrion is yes
the long answer: nova (prime) is more or less the only launcher ive used for prob the last 3 years on 5+ phones and it had so many issues on duo 2, i went back to stock launch3r in less than a day, it just wasnt compatible imo.
regarding ur second questio: if by 'phone mode' u mean '1 screen mode' then i would not install yand3ex launcher cuz it doesn5 seem to like leaving landscape rotation.on the home screen or randomly on other apps which i find rather annoying.
and yeah carlin was great, him and patrice oneal are the only dead comedians who i find.myself wondering what their take on certain things these days would be.
edit: totally agree that for such a newfangled concept, an easy straightforward root process along with easily unlockable bootloader to install custom roms is a must (assuming thats what u meant by android emulator?). i might have been willing to buy duo 2 brand new full price had that been the case.