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I got an replacement due to my phone beyond repair.
I'm running original stock firmware, of-course rooted. Since the replacement I'm trying to get my phone to full charge but it doesn't and also I notice that the charging is quite slow.
I installed "Battery Monitor Widget" to see how much power it is drawing and found that AC power draws only about 350+mA and sometimes it is as low as 8mA. (Some times it draws about 750+mA). I notice that the temperature also reaches somewhere about 45 to 48 degree.
Once it reaches about 90% or so, it starts to drain battery instead of charing it.
I find it quite abnormal. Anyone with this kind of problem and found an solution?
Thanks in advance for the replies and suggestions.
What I'd sudjest is updating your phone through seus or PC companion or if your an American at & t user update to a newer firmware through the flash tool (you can find I link to it through my signiture) or if you can't update try and use the repair option through seus or PC compainion.
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The Gingerbread Man said:
What I'd sudjest is updating your phone through seus or PC companion or if your an American at & t user update to a newer firmware through the flash tool (you can find I link to it through my signiture) or if you can't update try and use the repair option through seus or PC compainion.
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Thanks for your reply.
I did that yesterday. I repaired the firmware and reloaded all the application one by one from scratch. The only thing I restored is contacts so that I could eliminate all the other factors which can cause this issue.
My other suggestion would be to install xrecovery and wipe your battery stats I guess. You can find a link to xrecovery through the link in my sig
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The Gingerbread Man said:
My other suggestion would be to install xrecovery and wipe your battery stats I guess. You can find a link to xrecovery through the link in my sig
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Thanks once again for the reply.
I tired that too every time I try to charge the phone. Still it refuses to complete the charging.
Any other suggestions are welcome.
What about off line charging ie; turning the phone off and doing that way?
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The Gingerbread Man said:
My other suggestion would be to install xrecovery and wipe your battery stats I guess. You can find a link to xrecovery through the link in my sig
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+1 it helped me off this problem
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The Gingerbread Man said:
What about off line charging ie; turning the phone off and doing that way?
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Good idea. I will try that as well as try to do a clean wipe and just try to charge with nothing loaded in. That will give a better idea where the problem is.
Thanks for the great tip, I will update you tomorrow.
Had that happen before, I had to remove sim card and let it drain out slowly for a week, then charge. Problem solved
I think I had similar problem, except that my processor went on full load when its almost fully charged causing it to drain the battery instead. Still lookin for answer to that, will wiping battery stats help?
I reset my phone to factory and did a re-flashing again using SEUS and I tried it charging immediately without loading any application (only loaded Battery Monitor Widget from Market to see the battery temperature and mA units drawn) and wow, it charged like a normal X10. So I guess it has something to do with whatever I loaded or modded it with.
I'm trying to find it out. Later tonight I will try to load all the application one-by-one and try again to charge to see whether I can isolate it.
During this process, I did takeout my SIM card for a period of 1 hour or so, so not sure whether that did the trick (If that's the case, thanks to gogogu)
In the meantime, I have a strong feeling it would be due to the flashtool and new recovery, but again there isn't any proof. I suspect this because this is the new thing I did compared to my old phone.
Any thoughts are welcome.
Monitor the CPU usage as well
zymphonyx said:
Monitor the CPU usage as well
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I don't have issues with processor. It works at full throttle when it supposed to work and then goes back to normal.
Hrmmm alright, but if you ever had the draining issue while charging and the battery temp rises up again. Check the CPU usage just incase
After yesterday's event, seems like stable (I did face the same issue once). Not sure which cured it and currently monitoring...
EDIT: Back to square one. The issue started again and the battery refues to fully charge! I'm going mad
Finally given up, sent for service and came back after 5 days of repair.
Repair Notes: No problem found !!!
But today morning I tried to charge and it's the same issue . Makes me go mad. Really, I don't know what to do!
Please help me friends .......
I too have exactly the same problem with my x10i.....
tried everything like rooting, using stock & custom ROMs, etc... still problem persist ...
while charging , power goes from 900mA to 200mA or lower, & doesn't reach 100% full...
i use current widget from market to read the power values ....
please help me friends .... to resolve my problem ...
Thanks a lot...
Makzer.
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hello mates...
please reply to my problem dear friends ..
looking forward ...
LiveSquare said:
I got an replacement due to my phone beyond repair.
I'm running original stock firmware, of-course rooted. Since the replacement I'm trying to get my phone to full charge but it doesn't and also I notice that the charging is quite slow.
I installed "Battery Monitor Widget" to see how much power it is drawing and found that AC power draws only about 350+mA and sometimes it is as low as 8mA. (Some times it draws about 750+mA). I notice that the temperature also reaches somewhere about 45 to 48 degree.
Once it reaches about 90% or so, it starts to drain battery instead of charing it.
I find it quite abnormal. Anyone with this kind of problem and found an solution?
Thanks in advance for the replies and suggestions.
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What program do you use to check your battery temperature. I rememeber there was one that wass bettery draining. The same is also possible with battery level monitor
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Use this tool forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1415600
Please read this. There is a lot of batt info on xda just search
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871051
I realize that much of this is common knowledge on XDA. Still, every day I see people post about how their phone "loses" 10% as soon as it comes off the charger. I also have friends who can't understand why their battery drains so quickly. Trying to explain this to people without hard numbers is often met with doubt, so I figured that I'd actually plot it out with real data.
So it's not a piece that is optimized for this audience, but I hope that you find it interesting.
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Your Smartphone is Lying to You
(and it's not such a bad thing)
Climbing out of bed, about to start your day, you unplug your new smartphone from its wall charger and quickly check your email. You've left it plugged in overnight, and the battery gauge shows 100%. After a quick shower, you remember that you forgot to send your client a file last night. You pick up your phone again, but the battery gauge now reads 90%. A 10% drop in 10 minutes? The phone must be defective, right?
A common complaint about today's smartphones is their short battery life compared to older cell phones. Years ago, if you accidentally left your charger at home, your phone could still make it through a weeklong vacation with life to spare (I did it more than once). With the newest phones on the market, you might be lucky enough to make it through a weekend.
And why should we expect anything else? Phones used to have a very short list of features: make and receive phone calls. Today we use them for email, web surfing, GPS navigation, photos, video, games, and a host of other tasks. They used to sport tiny displays, while we now have giant touch screens with bright and vibrant colors. All of these features come at a cost: large energy requirements.
Interestingly enough, improvements in battery management technology have compounded the average user's perception of this problem. Older phones were rather inelegant in their charging behavior; usually filling the battery to capacity and then switching to a trickle current to maintain the highest charge possible. This offered the highest usage time in the short-term, but was damaging the battery over the course of ownership. As explained at Battery University, "The time at which the battery stays at [maximum charge] should be as short as possible. Prolonged high voltage promotes corrosion, especially at elevated temperatures."[1]
This is why many new phones will "lose" up to 10% within a few minutes of coming off the charger. The reality is that the battery was only at 100% capacity for a brief moment, after which the battery management system allowed it to slowly dip down to around 90%. Leaving the phone plugged in overnight does not make a difference: the phone only uses the wall current to maintain a partial charge state.
To monitor this, I installed CurrentWidget on my HTC ADR6300 (Droid Incredible), an app that can log how much electric current is being drawn from the battery or received from the charger. Setting it to record log entries every 10 seconds, I have collected a few days worth of data. While many variables are involved (phone hardware, ROM, kernel, etc) and no two devices will perform exactly the same, the trends that I will describe are becoming more common in new phones. This is not just isolated to a single platform or a single manufacturer.
Chart 1 shows system reported battery levels over the course of one night, with the phone plugged in to a charger. Notice that as the battery level approaches 100%, the charging current gradually decreases. After a full charge is reached, wall current is cut completely, with the phone switching back to the battery for all of its power. It isn't until about two hours later that you can see the phone starts receiving wall current again, and even then it is only in brief bursts.
The steep drop in reported battery seen past the 6.5 hour mark shows the phone being unplugged. While the current draw does increase at this point (since the phone is being used), it still cannot account for the reported 6% depletion in 3 minutes. It should also be obvious that maintaining a 100% charge state is impossible given the long spans in which the phone is only operating on battery power.
Using the data from CurrentWidget, however, it is quite easy to project the actual battery state. Starting with the assumption that the first battery percentage reading is accurate, each subsequent point is calculated based on mA draw and time. Chart 2 includes this projection.
Now we can see that the 6% drop after unplugging is simply the battery gauge catching up with reality.
The phone manufacturers essentially have three choices:
1. Use older charging styles which actually maintain a full battery, thereby decreasing its eventual life
2. Use new charging methods and have an accurate battery gauge
3. Use new charging methods and have the inaccurate battery gauge
Option one has clearly fallen out of favor as it prematurely wears devices. Option two, while being honest, would most likely be met with many complaints. After all, how many people want to see their phone draining down to 90% while it is still plugged in? Option three therefore offers an odd compromise. Maybe phone companies think that users will be less likely to worry about a quick drop off the charger than they will worry about a "defective" charger that doesn't keep their phone at 100% while plugged in.
Bump It. Or Should You?
One technique that has gained popularity in the user community is "bump charging." To bump charge a device, turn it off completely, and plug it into a charger. Wait until the indicator light shows a full charge (on the ADR6300, for example, the charging LED changes from amber to green) but do not yet turn the device back on. Instead, disconnect and immediately reconnect the power cord. The device will now accept more charge before saying it is full. This disconnect/reconnect process can be repeated multiple times, each time squeezing just a little bit more into the battery. Does it work?
The following chart plots battery depletion after the device has received a hefty bump charge (6 cycles) and then turned on to use battery power. Note that the system does not show the battery dropping from 100% until well over an hour of unplugged use, at which point it starts to steadily decline. Again, however, it should be obvious that the battery gauge is not syncing up with reality. How could the rate of depletion be increasing over the first 5 hours while the rate of current draw is relatively steady? And why does the projected battery line separate from the reported levels, but then exactly mirror the later rises and falls?
The answer, of course, is that bump charging definitely works. Rather than anchoring our projected values to the first data point of 100%, what happens if we anchor against a later point in the plot?
Aligning the data suggests that a heavy bump charge increases initial capacity by approximately 15%. Note that the only other time that the lines separate in this graph was once again when the phone was put on the charger and topped up to 100%. Just as with the first set of graphs, the phone kept reporting 100% until it was unplugged, dropped rapidly, and again caught up with our projections.
So what does it all mean?
If you absolutely need the highest capacity on a device like this, you will need to bump charge. There are currently people experimenting with "fixes" for this, but I have yet to see one that works. Be warned, however, that repeated bump charging will wear your battery faster and begin to reduce its capacity. If you are a "power user" who will buy a new battery a few months from now anyway, this presumably isn't a concern. If you are an average consumer who uses a device for a few years, I would recommend that you stay away from bump charging. The bottom line is that you don't really "need" to do it unless you are actually depleting your battery to 0% on a regular basis.
If you are someone who can top off your phone on a regular basis, do it. Plug it in when you're at home. Plug it in when you're at your desk. As explained by Battery University, "Several partial discharges with frequent recharges are better for lithium-ion than one deep one. Recharging a partially charged lithium-ion does not cause harm because there is no memory."[2]
Beyond that, the best advice I can offer is to stop paying such close attention to your battery gauge and to just use your phone. Charge it whenever you can, and then stop obsessing over the exact numbers. If you really need more usage time, buy an extended-capacity battery and use it normally.
From my XPERIA X10S v8.2 on JaBKerneL @ 1.15ghz
I know this question has been asked really lots of times, but I didn't seem to find cases similar to mine.
there doesn't seem to be any wakelock (except 2 which is incredibly short) and it was in deep sleep mode all the time. but yet, it drains almost 5% per hour which i find is really too much...
I've tried lots of firmware (litening, wamanlite, turkbey, stock, ICS) and removed all the unnecessary bloatware to reduce wakelocks to a state as shown in attachment. but still, they do not have any results, still get less than 1 day life without any usage at all...
Could this be hardware problem? I find it gets hot really fast even when i'm just facebooking.
Or is there anything else can i try to do? this device really started to disappoint me ever since the battery life looks like this.
any help will be greatly appreciated.
tonyvyp said:
I know this question has been asked really lots of times, but I didn't seem to find cases similar to mine.
there doesn't seem to be any wakelock (except 2 which is incredibly short) and it was in deep sleep mode all the time. but yet, it drains almost 5% per hour which i find is really too much...
I've tried lots of firmware (litening, wamanlite, turkbey, stock, ICS) and removed all the unnecessary bloatware to reduce wakelocks to a state as shown in attachment. but still, they do not have any results, still get less than 1 day life without any usage at all...
Could this be hardware problem? I find it gets hot really fast even when i'm just facebooking.
Or is there anything else can i try to do? this device really started to disappoint me ever since the battery life looks like this.
any help will be greatly appreciated.
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maybe try out BetterBatteryStats, duuno but maybe this could help?!
cheers and good luck!
Try Hydrogen-ICS latest version, it seems to be "the rom" today
Battery life is very good and its overall a stable system.
Make sure to "Fix Permission" after first start, reboot recovery and do it.
Also sometimes "to much junk" in your SD card can cause battery drain, copy your files and format the SD card, you might see some diffrence. (i did)
tonyvyp said:
I know this question has been asked really lots of times, but I didn't seem to find cases similar to mine.
there doesn't seem to be any wakelock (except 2 which is incredibly short) and it was in deep sleep mode all the time. but yet, it drains almost 5% per hour which i find is really too much...
I've tried lots of firmware (litening, wamanlite, turkbey, stock, ICS) and removed all the unnecessary bloatware to reduce wakelocks to a state as shown in attachment. but still, they do not have any results, still get less than 1 day life without any usage at all...
Could this be hardware problem? I find it gets hot really fast even when i'm just facebooking.
Or is there anything else can i try to do? this device really started to disappoint me ever since the battery life looks like this.
any help will be greatly appreciated.
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you got 20Hrs out of your phone? grats! as of lately i've been trying alot of different roms and different customization settings from kernel tweeks to CPU tweeks (undervolting/underclocking) and im even turning off every extra setting that consumes battery power apart from wifi
on best with a 2000Mah battery i get 13 hrs on standby and 4 hrs if im playing a game - these days my phone doesnt charge anymore - it discharges even when plugged in
I recommend downloading HydrogenICS, it's good! Download Battery drain, so you can see how fast your battery is being drained.. Also, let your battery go down to 5% then charge your phone
Something is seriously wrong - you've hardly used it, looking at those graphs.
I'd try a stock anything, and if you get similar drainage send it in for repair/buy a new battery.
this is'nt normal , in sleep mode i can get 20 hours and only lose 9%
use hydrogen and neak , and try , if you get the same result so it will be hardware fault
the 3g data it kills the batt very fast,i don think u got a hardware prblm,cause 20hrs an still to go is good ive seen ppl reporting worse...dude instal better batt stat,3g watch dog but remember batt saver apps too run in bckgrnd so i suggest u stay on a stable rom wiv a custum kernel like siyah or neak an watch the batt in better batt stat.....wen i need more juice i switch to airplane mode in nite then rebot in the morning....i don hav any tweaks or uv,oc but ive seen the batt is very good wen i don use the data or wifi or download or update,pm me if any doubt......cheeeerz
You flashed different ROMs the last days? First thing is you should only flash with full battery and after flashing it needs some time (three full battery cycles e.g.) untill the battery works fine for the ROM.
And you may recallibrate your battery. Turn the mobile off and load the battery to full. Then go to CWM and reset your batterystats. Now unload till the mobile goes of and reload to full with mobile off. If you doe this for e.g. 3 times the battery should be recalibrated.
I must say Omegas ICS + Speedmod or Siyahs Kernel. Best ever. Or checkout Paradoxxxs rom very stable but for me not so good xD
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B3311 said:
Something is seriously wrong - you've hardly used it, looking at those graphs.
I'd try a stock anything, and if you get similar drainage send it in for repair/buy a new battery.
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yea i know right...i'll try Hydrogen ICS as they everyone recommended and see how it goes first.
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this is'nt normal , in sleep mode i can get 20 hours and only lose 9%
use hydrogen and neak , and try , if you get the same result so it will be hardware fault
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what is "neak"? sorry i am still newbie
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the 3g data it kills the batt very fast,i don think u got a hardware prblm,cause 20hrs an still to go is good ive seen ppl reporting worse...dude instal better batt stat,3g watch dog but remember batt saver apps too run in bckgrnd so i suggest u stay on a stable rom wiv a custum kernel like siyah or neak an watch the batt in better batt stat.....wen i need more juice i switch to airplane mode in nite then rebot in the morning....i don hav any tweaks or uv,oc but ive seen the batt is very good wen i don use the data or wifi or download or update,pm me if any doubt......cheeeerz
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bro, 20 hours is with 99% deep sleep is seriously wrong. better battery stats cant tell me nothing, since i have no wakelocks or whatever, and all those battery savers apps, they spent more battery than they can save. when those screenshot is taken, i can tell you for sure, bluetooth, gps, 3g, wifi, auto sync etc everything was turned off. even brightness is 10% (which is even lower than auto brightness settings). anyway thanks for the reply
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You flashed different ROMs the last days? First thing is you should only flash with full battery and after flashing it needs some time (three full battery cycles e.g.) untill the battery works fine for the ROM.
And you may recallibrate your battery. Turn the mobile off and load the battery to full. Then go to CWM and reset your batterystats. Now unload till the mobile goes of and reload to full with mobile off. If you doe this for e.g. 3 times the battery should be recalibrated.
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nope, i always try at least 5-6 battery cycles after flashing to see the real graph. and i've read in this forum somewhere, calibrating battery by deleting batterystats is useless for this phone.
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I must say Omegas ICS + Speedmod or Siyahs Kernel. Best ever. Or checkout Paradoxxxs rom very stable but for me not so good xD
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speedmod is a kernel like siyah rite? i've use siyah before, but it doesn't seem like much help. nonetheless, will try them ^^
thanks for all the replies and recommendation, will try different rom & update again (probably in 4-5 days for trying 2 roms
I have exactly same problem. On GB over night(7 hours), battery consumption was around 9%. On ICS more than 20%, but nobody touch phone. I try few roms: wanamlite, omega, bezke, pure. Now i have hydrogen. Better battery stats shows nothing special. Only thing what i can think is wi-fi. if i turn off seams to be better, not that dramatic, but anyway not that good like on GB.
strange...
let me ask this... what does the yellow color in the phone signal mean? anybody got any clue?
shouldn't it be green/gray ?
in my phone whenever i have green/gray in the battery view the bar hardly goes down on idle but i see a big drain compared to green/gray when it becomes yellow even in idle
let me post a pic to clarify...
i was complaining about sudden batt drop on cm9 ics, i know its 2 diff roms but still the yellow bar got my attention in both pics...
just searched google and came up with red= no signal, yellow=very bad signal to no signal, green = good signal/full
bad signal makes the phone look for the signal in a bad way using a lot of the battery...
guess i found out why my batt suddenly dropped so bad compared to the rest of the bar...
id suggest flashing a couple of modems and testing how good of a signal u get with each and sticking with the one that works for u, if its a weak signal from the provider then find a better provider that covers ur place with better reception...
start from there and then if batt life is still bad search search and search... best of luck with ur phone...
@mazroui
in those 7 hours your phone should lost 9 - 10% of battery, but not more than 20 unused, what is process causing that usage?
for me: i charged phone before sleep, when wake up after 7h i had 20% left.
Android OS - 92% , rest for cell standby, phone idle and screen. Wi-fi was setup to sleep when screen is off. Better batery stats show that wi-fi was on for almost whole time
Cell Standby and Phone Idle using that much of your power means that the signal in your area is horrible and the phone is struggling to maintain a decent connection with the towers, this can drain a tremendous amount of battery depending on how bad the signal really is, the yellow bar means it's not optimal but there is a large degree of variation between the top end and bottom end of the yellow bar spectrum. Try a different modem or move your phone to an area with better reception and see if you still get this sort of drain.
Android OS is misreported by practically every Kernel because for some reason Samsung accidentally made Screen On add to the Android OS bar, so your Android OS usage is actually AOS + Screen On, for the most part high AOS usage can be ignored as a source of drain using the phone info battery screen, I would look elsewhere for the problem. Sometimes rogue apps hide their wake locks in another wake lock, for instance if you have facebook or many of the IM programs on your system, they poll their servers a lot causing a kernel wake lock called 'svnet dormancy' (in gb) or 'multipdp' (in ics) this causes a lock of 5s to ensure proper packet transfer, if your app is requesting packets every 4 seconds, then its essentially a permanent wake lock but may not be reported as the app being the source.
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strange...
let me ask this... what does the yellow color in the phone signal mean? anybody got any clue?
shouldn't it be green/gray ?
in my phone whenever i have green/gray in the battery view the bar hardly goes down on idle but i see a big drain compared to green/gray when it becomes yellow even in idle
let me post a pic to clarify...
i was complaining about sudden batt drop on cm9 ics, i know its 2 diff roms but still the yellow bar got my attention in both pics...
just searched google and came up with red= no signal, yellow=very bad signal to no signal, green = good signal/full
bad signal makes the phone look for the signal in a bad way using a lot of the battery...
guess i found out why my batt suddenly dropped so bad compared to the rest of the bar...
id suggest flashing a couple of modems and testing how good of a signal u get with each and sticking with the one that works for u, if its a weak signal from the provider then find a better provider that covers ur place with better reception...
start from there and then if batt life is still bad search search and search... best of luck with ur phone...
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IF yellow means poor signals then strangely iam getting yellow line but the signal bar shows full signals on home screen.
Any comments
cuteboy1 said:
IF yellow means poor signals then strangely iam getting yellow line but the signal bar shows full signals on home screen.
Any comments
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There is a defect with Android where good signal strength is mis-reported on this screen as yellow, even if you have 100% signal.
Until you go to About Phone > Status, just once. Then when you go back to this screen, it will start reporting as green if you have good signal.
I've tested this out on my phone, and confirmed it... try it out yourself.
I stopped caring about it, so I just ignore it unless it gets reported as red.
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Cell Standby and Phone Idle using that much of your power means that the signal in your area is horrible and the phone is struggling to maintain a decent connection with the towers, this can drain a tremendous amount of battery depending on how bad the signal really is, the yellow bar means it's not optimal but there is a large degree of variation between the top end and bottom end of the yellow bar spectrum. Try a different modem or move your phone to an area with better reception and see if you still get this sort of drain.
Android OS is misreported by practically every Kernel because for some reason Samsung accidentally made Screen On add to the Android OS bar, so your Android OS usage is actually AOS + Screen On, for the most part high AOS usage can be ignored as a source of drain using the phone info battery screen, I would look elsewhere for the problem. Sometimes rogue apps hide their wake locks in another wake lock, for instance if you have facebook or many of the IM programs on your system, they poll their servers a lot causing a kernel wake lock called 'svnet dormancy' (in gb) or 'multipdp' (in ics) this causes a lock of 5s to ensure proper packet transfer, if your app is requesting packets every 4 seconds, then its essentially a permanent wake lock but may not be reported as the app being the source.
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Signal in my area is far from perfection, but in same location, on GB i had 9% consumed over night, but not 70 %. I turn off GPS, BT, leave only wi-fi and data. And over night when nobody touch phone, screen is off.
kangi74 said:
Signal in my area is far from perfection, but in same location, on GB i had 9% consumed over night, but not 70 %. I turn off GPS, BT, leave only wi-fi and data. And over night when nobody touch phone, screen is off.
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If you look at the graph in the right pic you can see that the curve is less severe when WiFi is active, while this doesn't prove my point that its a network issue it does increase my suspicion that the issue is mobile data related.
kangi74 said:
Signal in my area is far from perfection, but in same location, on GB i had 9% consumed over night, but not 70 %. I turn off GPS, BT, leave only wi-fi and data. And over night when nobody touch phone, screen is off.
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Something is horribly wrong with that. Do a full wipe. If it still does that, reflash your firmware. If it STILL does that, maybe flash to a newer stock ICS firmware? Then as a last resort, you may want to go back to GB.
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thracemerin said:
If you look at the graph in the right pic you can see that the curve is less severe when WiFi is active, while this doesn't prove my point that its a network issue it does increase my suspicion that the issue is mobile data related.
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This guy may be onto something, actually. First thing you should try is flashing a different modem. THEN do all the stuff I said above.
EDIT: just noticed you're in Oz. Try flashing a T modem. Most Australian users report much better results with both battery and signal after doing this.
hi
is it required to battery caliberate after flashing new rom?
and when ever i reboot my system either battery jumps from 10% to 30 or more
or becomes less than 10%..
if i should then which app should i use?
any guidnace
plz
TY
No such thing. After you flash a new rom, charge the phone to 100%, turn it off, remove the battery for 30 seconds, replace the battery, turn phone on, enjoy.
Anyone selling you the whole calibration thing is selling you voodoo.
hi
thanks for your reply
plz suggest me best battery app with battery saving feature , suggestion on what we can do with remaining battery , expected full time charge , complete graph or battery usage history by apps?
paid or free , tell me best one
thank you
There's lots of battery apps on Google Play, there's no such thing as the best one, go have a look under the Tools section in Apps (you'll also find some under productivity). Stay away from apps like Juice Defender that claim to save you battery by doing things automatically which you can do yourself in two seconds, these have been proven time & again on XDA to use more juice than they save.
ivl try battery monitor
thank you
No probs ;-)
MistahBungle said:
No such thing. After you flash a new rom, charge the phone to 100%, turn it off, remove the battery for 30 seconds, replace the battery, turn phone on, enjoy.
Anyone selling you the whole calibration thing is selling you voodoo.
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Wouldn't that procedure above be considered calibrating the battery? LOL. J/K. Couldn't resist .
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actually it cannot. this way you only help the system in your phone recognize full capacity of battery (which is not even full because not one battery works at it's full capacity - but it's fullest you will get at this point of your battery life). when it's about calibrating - listen to MistahBungle - it's all voodoo. you cannot calibrate li-ion battery unless you kill it and then revive. by killing it I don't mean depleting it in your phone, because even when phone shows the battery is fully depleted it's really not - there is still some juice in it. you'd have to use e.g. special charger which can drawn juice out of battery and make it really empty. only then your battery is dead and useless. you may revive it by applying cca. 5V but actually it not always works. so you cannot calibrate your battery in home environment.
what you can do is "re-calibrating" so called fuel gauge (description under links given below) and you may also help your system recognize the real state of your battery charge. sometimes it happens that systems readings are wrong and battery is on 85% but system is reading it as 50 or 100%. to help it read battery chip correctly you do the thing MistahBungle so helpfully described. sometimes you even don't have to do it but wait 2-3 charging cycles and system will adjust it's reading itself. by charging cycles I mean charging like from 20-100%. why not from 0%? because even if it's not a real depletion state, li-ion batteries doesn't like the state of being discharged too much.
more on this and lot of other helpfull information you will find here:
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/1...bump-charging-and-inconsistent-battery-drain/
gaeilge said:
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actually it cannot. this way you only help the system in your phone recognize full capacity of battery (which is not even full because not one battery works at it's full capacity - but it's fullest you will get at this point of your battery life). when it's about calibrating - listen to MistahBungle - it's all voodoo. you cannot calibrate li-ion battery unless you kill it and then revive. by killing it I don't mean depleting it in your phone, because even when phone shows the battery is fully depleted it's really not - there is still some juice in it. you'd have to use e.g. special charger which can drawn juice out of battery and make it really empty. only then your battery is dead and useless. you may revive it by applying cca. 5V but actually it not always works. so you cannot calibrate your battery in home environment.
what you can do is "re-calibrating" so called fuel gauge (description under links given below) and you may also help your system recognize the real state of your battery charge. sometimes it happens that systems readings are wrong and battery is on 85% but system is reading it as 50 or 100%. to help it read battery chip correctly you do the thing MistahBungle so helpfully described. sometimes you even don't have to do it but wait 2-3 charging cycles and system will adjust it's reading itself. by charging cycles I mean charging like from 20-100%. why not from 0%? because even if it's not a real depletion state, li-ion batteries doesn't like the state of being discharged too much.
more on this and lot of other helpfull information you will find here:
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/1...bump-charging-and-inconsistent-battery-drain/
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read that ..
thank you
and is there any way to stop auto startups of apps?i have around 200apps and most of them i use around once a day or not even once
i use android assistant to manage startup but it does on boot and after some time if i check running apps most of apps will be there running
is there any app to block it running automatically? not just at startup ? full control like anything?
thank you
actually I cannot help with that. I don't use such a software and really don't believe in it. but, the fact is that I do not use so many apps. other fact is that surely there is some useful software that could help you with that task, i just do not use one and personally I'm not interested in it. I know that perhaps the best method is to freeze them with titanium but if you use these apps from time to time then it would become complicated and not worth the effort.
still I have few questions:
why would you like to stop them from working? do they drain your battery? if so then check your logs with bbs and find out which ones are draining, try to change their setting or get rid of them, or at least close only these ones. long time ago I was fighting with some apps that I do not use often and they start themselves from time to time. I didn't want to get rid of them, so before every night I was killing them one-by-one from applications menu (actually most of them didn't wake up until I ran them myself). finally, after many tests I got to the point that it doesn't make any difference. apps I was killing, even if running, didn't use any recourses, didn't produce wakelocks, they were just using some RAM. and if it is the reason of your concern then do not be worried - they may use as much RAM as they want - android will free RAM when it will need it.
now I do not kill any apps and by night I lose 0-2% of battery which is my only concern - what should we care more? CPU, RAM - let it work as long as it doesn't stop us from enjoying our phone and make a usage of it uncomfortable.
and if you're worried about packet data then you may limit it for each app using system menu in ICS.
ancilary said:
read that ..
thank you
and is there any way to stop auto startups of apps?i have around 200apps and most of them i use around once a day or not even once
i use android assistant to manage startup but it does on boot and after some time if i check running apps most of apps will be there running
is there any app to block it running automatically? not just at startup ? full control like anything?
thank you
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Thanks dude. I also have the similar problem. I have spent months on it without any improvement. Now I'm quite frustrated and not optimistic on the solution you have provided towards my issue, but your decription gives me a lot of clue.
But my problem is even more tricky, I would like to share it here so see if anyone have met it before, or if I need to start a new thread to deal with it:
The problem can be generally decribed as below:
1. When the battery is fully charged, unplug and consume the juice until the level reach around 30%, then the phone is shut down automatically; after I plugin the power and restart the phone, the battery level is displayed as 0%;
2. After charging for a while from 0% , restart the phone and you will see the battery level directly goes back to 50%, but still with very low voltage;
3. Changing with a new battery won't solve the issue -- though the new battery itself may also have problem(not sure if it is genuine), but I don't think a fake battery and an old battery should behave almost the same, so I don't think it is the battery's problem; criticize if I'm wrong
4. Re-flashing a new rom won't solve the issue either. I have tried different CM9 nightlies and now I'm using CM10 nightlies, none of them is immune to the problem;
5. Clear the battery state won't solve the problem. It is hard to say whether it improves the situation at least a tiny bit. I mean it may work somehow, e.g. My phone used to be shut down at 50% battery level and now it can last to 36%. But it never totally solve the problem once and for all, so I still don't trust this caliberation thing may work.
I hope I have clearly stated my issue. I'm so at the end of my patience, this little bastard have been always torturing me You guys are the last I can count on I really hope I came here earlier so as not to have wasted so much time.
I know we can use widgets or change the status bar one with UOT, but it seems ludicrous to imagine such a simple feature hasn't become standard. Is there some patent troll that is keeping devices from having the battery percentage in the system bar? I see no other legitimate reason.
Saito Forte said:
I know we can use widgets or change the status bar one with UOT, but it seems ludicrous to imagine such a simple feature hasn't become standard. Is there some patent troll that is keeping devices from having the battery percentage in the system bar? I see no other legitimate reason.
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That is a really good question actually. You have me wondering the same thing now. I know on my girlfriend's iPhone 4s she can set her battery display to show a percentage. I wonder if Apple has a patent on that for smart phones ...ridiculous if they do.
wellll guys....its android and not a****ing iphone
so accept it or install cyanogenmod as far as i know it supports what u want
I have an answer which you might find interesting...
I was testing a custom rom, which had a lot of users complaining and incessantly whining about "battery drain"...
But I never felt any such drain...
We were actually surprised that, users had their battery percentages "drain" from 100 to 60 in 4 hours (they used batt %), after which they charged their phone...
I, on the other hand, didn't take notice of the battery step (present in the stock icon)...
I used to charge my phone after 10 hours with around 10% batt left...
I then asked another fellow user to use stock batt icon, rather than the % icon...
And miraculously, his battery drain was minimized...(by just changing a damned icon)...same confirmed with a few others...
So we could conclude that, the battery drain was happening due to the % icon, and used to vanish/minimize when using the stock icon...
Hence, it was attributed to a placebo effect...
You thought that battery was draining because the numbers between 1 - 100 are going down...while the stock icon ignores battery movement lesser than 10%...
It isn't anything other than your mind telling you that battery is going down...
I do not know the "official" reason why it never made it to stock android...
But if you are willing, just try it out...
Without changing your daily usage and apps, spend a few days with the stock icon, and then a few days with the % icon...
The result, still might be really subjective, but well, this is what I could find...
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a.cid said:
I have an answer which you might find interesting...
I was testing a custom rom, which had a lot of users complaining and incessantly whining about "battery drain"...
But I never felt any such drain...
We were actually surprised that, users had their battery percentages "drain" from 100 to 60 in 4 hours (they used batt %), after which they charged their phone...
I, on the other hand, didn't take notice of the battery step (present in the stock icon)...
I used to charge my phone after 10 hours with around 10% batt left...
I then asked another fellow user to use stock batt icon, rather than the % icon...
And miraculously, his battery drain was minimized...(by just changing a damned icon)...same confirmed with a few others...
So we could conclude that, the battery drain was happening due to the % icon, and used to vanish/minimize when using the stock icon...
Hence, it was attributed to a placebo effect...
You thought that battery was draining because the numbers between 1 - 100 are going down...while the stock icon ignores battery movement lesser than 10%...
It isn't anything other than your mind telling you that battery is going down...
I do not know the "official" reason why it never made it to stock android...
But if you are willing, just try it out...
Without changing your daily usage and apps, spend a few days with the stock icon, and then a few days with the % icon...
The result, still might be really subjective, but well, this is what I could find...
- Via xda premium
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Yap... some months ago eard something quiet similar to this state...
a guy postet that he installed an battery widget from the play store
after a while he had big problems because his battery was gettin empty very fast
so one other guy told him to look under settings in the battery context menu wich were his biggest battery drainers
and who could have imagined this on top was the battery widget
after he unsinstalled the widget his problems were vanished
so guys
accept that u have a battery without percentage but a battery drain in a size where u cant watch the amount of battery power percentage falling from one second to the other
so please accept it
No, I never used a batt widget...
There was option to have either % icon, or the stock one, baked into the rom itself...
So there wasn't any battery drain related to rogue apps...
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a.cid said:
No, I never used a batt widget...
There was option to have either % icon, or the stock one, baked into the rom itself...
So there wasn't any battery drain related to rogue apps...
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i know.....i just thought i would fit to the topic
It's a standard feature in ICS to display battery percentage.
Settings > Display > Display Battery Percentage
ingenious247 said:
It's a standard feature in ICS to display battery percentage.
Settings > Display > Display Battery Percentage
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im only using cm9 my phone does not have any stock ics rom
nevertheless...if ure battery drain starts incresing after u changed to percentag view u know why
Saito Forte said:
I know we can use widgets or change the status bar one with UOT, but it seems ludicrous to imagine such a simple feature hasn't become standard. Is there some patent troll that is keeping devices from having the battery percentage in the system bar? I see no other legitimate reason.
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Take a look at this,
jiffer1991 said:
wellll guys....its android and not a****ing iphone
so accept it or install cyanogenmod as far as i know it supports what u want
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Hehe, cm's the best!
Sent via LG P690 CyanogenMod 7.2 using XDA Premium
jiffer1991 said:
im only using cm9 my phone does not have any stock ics rom
nevertheless...if ure battery drain starts incresing after u changed to percentag view u know why
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I've always displayed percentage and I get about 12-16 hours of battery life depending on how I use my phone that day
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my man its pretty simple
the people at android dont like puttin percentages and i think it would look pretty small and unreadable
Looks readable to me
Sent from the current Heavyweight Champ Galaxy SIII
Hey,
I could not find a thread like this via the search bar, so I am opening one up. How much battery does your stock S3 consume by just lying there? I am losing about ten percent overnight, which seems a bit too much for me. Is that normal?
Thanks!
Wait till you get about 70 percent discharge overnight then you'll have something to worry about.
krico said:
Wait till you get about 70 percent discharge overnight then you'll have something to worry about.
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thanks for the reply, but that's not really what i wanted to know...
If you searched or read the multiple battery threads then you would have found that yes it is normal .
All depends upon what running .
jje
At night I turn off wifi and data, my battery drops 3%, with data on and wifi off about 5% ( about 8 hours)
Based on reviews on the net it is possible to get it drop 6% in 16 hours with data and wifi on, not getting to this myself but happy enough.
roter$baron said:
Hey,
I could not find a thread like this via the search bar, so I am opening one up. How much battery does your stock S3 consume by just lying there? I am losing about ten percent overnight, which seems a bit too much for me. Is that normal?
Thanks!
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It is very normal for Stock rom to consume that much battery.. However you can save more battery by going into Wifi > advanced > Keepy wifi on during sleep > Select Only when plugged in... Plus disabling wake up commands such as the ones for S Voice, or Google Now can increase battery life upto a great extent.
Also try turning off location services for apps that you don't use that often or the ones that don't really require location services that much.
I had 10 to 15% drop the night, after installing Chrome (because of google sync issue)
but after removed it.. im back to 6-7%
Anyway Dolphin is better
I can only say from memory ...
roter$baron said:
Hey,
I could not find a thread like this via the search bar, so I am opening one up. How much battery does your stock S3 consume by just lying there? I am losing about ten percent overnight, which seems a bit too much for me. Is that normal?
Thanks!
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I can only say from memory - a very clean S3 should get at most 2-3% discharge overnight (even with WiFi, data, BT and GPS started). That might no longer be achievable once you have a number of programs that interact and keep the CPU from staying into deep sleep.
Currently I am seeing at most 1-2% with my configuration - but that involves closing the 4 above before going to bed.(and to get to that point I had to drop a number of programs that were bad in this regard).
Do your own tests with that - look around after BetterBatteryStats.apk or something like that!
xclub_101 said:
I can only say from memory - a very clean S3 should get at most 2-3% discharge overnight (even with WiFi, data, BT and GPS started). That might no longer be achievable once you have a number of programs that interact and keep the CPU from staying into deep sleep.
Currently I am seeing at most 1-2% with my configuration - but that involves closing the 4 above before going to bed.(and to get to that point I had to drop a number of programs that were bad in this regard).
Do your own tests with that - look around after BetterBatteryStats.apk or something like that!
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Can I ask what your current configuration is?
I am currently running Omega v32.1 with the stock kernel.
I hardly use my phone during the day as I am at work for 12 hours, maybe send a few texts. 3g and sync are always on
I take it off charge at 5.30AM and when I get home at like 8PM it is down to less than 10%... and thats not even heavy use.
I have calibrated the battery using that batterycalibrate app for root users..