[Q] archos detects my canon powershot camera but doesn't show the pictures - Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
When I plug my canon powershot camera into the archos 101 usb, it recognises my camera (message "external camera connected" or something like that) but when I look into the folder, it's empty... it doesn't show my pictures stored on the camera's sd card
anybody any ideas?
external hd drives, mouse, usb sticks etc all work fine
Cheers
B

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berre said:
When I plug my canon powershot camera into the archos 101 usb, it recognises my camera (message "external camera connected" or something like that) but when I look into the folder, it's empty... it doesn't show my pictures stored on the camera's sd card
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Most camera's have a setting to change the usb mode from PTP to USB STORAGE. Have you tried to change that?

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I've went through the menu's of my camera but doesn't look like it has this setting...
cheers
B

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berre said:
I've went through the menu's of my camera but doesn't look like it has this setting...
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When You connect your camera to a computer what OS is the computer running?
How is the SD card in your camera formatted?

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Are the photos take in RAW format and not JPG??? Your archos won't be able to view RAW, which is a shame...

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OS is XP, pictures are jpeg format.
I'll see if I can find out how the SD is formatted tonight.
cheers
b

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file system of the SD card is FAT
I've tried connecting a USB card reader to read the SD card but I get the same behaviour as when I try to connect my phone
see topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1123491
so I'm kinda stuck on getting the images on my archos 101... a person in the other topic suggested installing urukdroid, would this help?
cheers
B

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I have the same problem. It worked fine before, then one day I connected it and it wasn't working. Didn't change anything on the camera.

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It is sadly a known problem with the 101 that the USB breaks.
The only chance you have is to RMA the device

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fzelle said:
It is sadly a known problem with the 101 that the USB breaks.
The only chance you have is to RMA the device
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There's nothing in this thread that says hardware failure. Why would you say the only choice is to RMA it?
berre: You should do some testing mate. Install OSMonitor and use it to watch the dmesg output when you plug in the usb devices. Test a few USB Flash Drives, wireless mice, etc. As I've said, I certainly have trouble with some USB devices, but it's not an RMA situation.
As for getting the pictures on your 101, copy them to your PC, then copy over wifi, or connect the A101 to your PC, or use a microSD card in your camera with a microsd adapter, then you can just put it straight into the 101. Or move them to a usb flash drive if you can find a working one.

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this is my alogcat
seems like it's discovering my camera (detects that it's a canon) but there's an error message "Parameter 'INTERFACE' not found"
anybody any idea what this means?
D/dalvikvm(12735): GC_FOR_MALLOC freed 3809 objects / 173920 bytes in 115ms
W/InputManagerService( 1319): Window already focused, ignoring focus gain of: [email protected]
D/WifiService( 1319): ACTION_BATTERY_CHANGED pluggedType: 0
D/SiMiClock( 1717): onUpdate
I/cat ( 1174): <7>usb usb2: usb resume
I/cat ( 1174): <7>hub 2-0:1.0: hub_resume
I/cat ( 1174): <7>hub 2-0:1.0: port 1: status 0101 change 0001
I/cat ( 1174): <7>hub 2-0:1.0: state 7 ports 1 chg 0002 evt 0000
I/cat ( 1174): <7>hub 2-0:1.0: port 1, status 0101, change 0000, 12 Mb/s
I/cat ( 1174): <6>usb 2-1: new high speed USB device using musb_hdrc and address 4
I/cat ( 1174): <7>usb 2-1: default language 0x0409
I/cat ( 1174): <6>usb 2-1: New USB device found, idVendor=04a9, idProduct=30fc
I/cat ( 1174): <6>usb 2-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
I/cat ( 1174): <6>usb 2-1: Product: Canon Digital Camera
I/cat ( 1174): <6>usb 2-1: Manufacturer: Canon Inc.
E/NetlinkEvent( 1223): NetlinkEvent::FindParam(): Parameter 'INTERFACE' not found
I/Vold ( 1223): handleUsbEvent(): Missing property, ignoring event
I/cat ( 1174): <7>usb 2-1: uevent
I/cat ( 1174): <7>usb 2-1: usb_probe_device
I/cat ( 1174): <6>usb 2-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
I/cat ( 1174): <7>usb 2-1: adding 2-1:1.0 (config #1, interface 0)
I/cat ( 1174): <7>usb 2-1:1.0: uevent
I/Vold ( 1223): Starting gphotofs
I/StorageNotification( 1319): Media {/mnt/storage/extcamera} state changed from {unmounted} -> {mounted}
W/StorageNotification( 1319): setMediaStorageNotification type=4 icon=17302220 visible=true
D/MediaScannerReceiver( 4966): Just got intent Intent { act=android.intent.action.MEDIA_MOUNTED dat=file:///mnt/storage/extcamera cmp=com.android.providers.media/.MediaScannerReceiver (has extras) }
I/BootReceiver( 6648): Got intent with action android.intent.action.MEDIA_MOUNTED
I/cat ( 1174): <7>/mnt/flash/releases/G8A/v2.3.25-r85838/arcbuild/linux/drivers/usb/core/inode.c: creating file '004'
I/cat ( 1174): <7>hub 2-0:1.0: state 7 ports 1 chg 0000 evt 0002
I/cat ( 1174): <7>hub 2-0:1.0: port 1 enable change, status 00000503
D/AosUpdate:MediaMountReceiver(12628): android.intent.action.MEDIA_MOUNTED / file:///mnt/storage/extcamera
D/dalvikvm(28664): GC_EXPLICIT freed 17329 objects / 1063424 bytes in 77ms
D/WifiService( 1319): ACTION_BATTERY_CHANGED pluggedType: 0
D/SiMiClock( 1717): onUpdate
I/ActivityManager( 1319): Starting activity: Intent { act=archos.intent.action.FILE_MANAGER dat=file:///mnt/storage/extcamera flg=0x10000000 cmp=com.archos.fm/.FileManager bnds=[0,58][980,122] }
V/alogcat (12735): save instance
V/alogcat (12735): paused
D/FileManager(12638): onResume: register the ActivityBackgroundResizer
D/ActivityBackgroundResizer(12638): onGlobalLayout
D/ActivityBackgroundResizer(12638): onGLobalLayout: 980x600
D/ActivityBackgroundResizer(12638): onGlobalLayout: no resizing required (980x600)
I/ActivityManager( 1319): Displayed activity com.archos.fm/.FileManager: 533 ms (total 533 ms)
D/alogcat (12735): stopping ...
D/alogcat (12735): stopped
W/KeyCharacterMap(12638): No keyboard for id -1
W/KeyCharacterMap(12638): Using default keymap: /system/usr/keychars/qwerty.kcm.bin
D/dalvikvm(12638): GC_EXTERNAL_ALLOC freed 3643 objects / 184896 bytes in 74ms
D/dalvikvm(12638): GC_EXTERNAL_ALLOC freed 678 objects / 38768 bytes in 55ms
D/dalvikvm(12638): GC_EXTERNAL_ALLOC freed 7 objects / 232 bytes in 27ms
D/dalvikvm(12638): GC_EXTERNAL_ALLOC freed 7 objects / 216 bytes in 27ms
D/dalvikvm(12638): GC_EXTERNAL_ALLOC freed 8 objects / 264 bytes in 27ms
D/dalvikvm(12638): GC_EXTERNAL_ALLOC freed 196 objects / 7064 bytes in 27ms
W/KeyCharacterMap(12638): No keyboard for id -1
W/KeyCharacterMap(12638): Using default keymap: /system/usr/keychars/qwerty.kcm.bin
D/alogcat (12735): stopping ...
D/alogcat (12735): canceling periodic saves
V/alogcat (12735): started
V/alogcat (12735): resumed
D/alogcat (12735): starting ...
W/IInputConnectionWrapper(12638): showStatusIcon on inactive InputConnection
D/dalvikvm(31530): GC_FOR_MALLOC freed 310 objects / 443984 bytes in 124ms
D/dalvikvm(31530): GC_FOR_MALLOC freed 222 objects / 439856 bytes in 75ms
D/SiMiClock( 1717): onUpdate
D/dalvikvm(31530): GC_FOR_MALLOC freed 167 objects / 435048 bytes in 38ms
D/dalvikvm(31530): GC_FOR_MALLOC freed 73 objects / 430536 bytes in 76ms
D/dalvikvm(31530): GC_FOR_MALLOC freed 70 objects / 430424 bytes in 77ms
I/cat ( 1174): <7>hub 2-0:1.0: state 7 ports 1 chg 0000 evt 0002
I/cat ( 1174): <7>hub 2-0:1.0: port 1, status 0100, change 0001, 12 Mb/s
I/cat ( 1174): <6>usb 2-1: USB disconnect, address 4
I/cat ( 1174): <7>usb 2-1: unregistering device
I/cat ( 1174): <7>usb 2-1: usb_disable_device nuking all URBs
I/cat ( 1174): <7>usb 2-1: unregistering interface 2-1:1.0
I/Vold ( 1223): Stopping gphotofs
I/cat ( 1174): <7>usb 2-1:1.0: uevent
I/StorageNotification( 1319): Media {/mnt/storage/extcamera} state changed from {mounted} -> {unmounted}
D/VoldCmdListener( 1223): volume shared /mnt/storage ums
W/StorageNotification( 1319): setMediaStorageNotification type=4 icon=0 visible=false
D/MediaScannerReceiver( 4966): Just got intent Intent { act=android.intent.action.MEDIA_EJECT dat=file:///mnt/storage/extcamera cmp=com.android.providers.media/.MediaScannerReceiver }
E/NetlinkEvent( 1223): NetlinkEvent::FindParam(): Parameter 'INTERFACE' not found
I/Vold ( 1223): handleUsbEvent(): Missing property, ignoring event
I/cat ( 1174): <7>usb 2-1: uevent
I/BootReceiver( 6648): Got intent with action android.intent.action.MEDIA_EJECT
I/logwrapper(12750): /usr/bin/gphotofs terminated by exit(1)
I/cat ( 1174): <7>hub 2-0:1.0: debounce: port 1: total 100ms stable 100ms status 0x100
I/cat ( 1174): <3>init: untracked pid 12770 exited
I/cat ( 1174): <7>hub 2-0:1.0: hub_suspend
I/cat ( 1174): <7>usb usb2: bus auto-suspend
D/dalvikvm( 4966): GC_EXPLICIT freed 1213 objects / 61504 bytes in 91ms
D/dalvikvm( 6648): GC_EXPLICIT freed 201 objects / 11520 bytes in 73ms
W/KeyCharacterMap(12735): No keyboard for id -1
W/KeyCharacterMap(12735): Using default keymap: /system/usr/keychars/qwerty.kcm.bin

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The (1223) shows that message is actually a different process, so I don't think that's related. Look at this line though:
/StorageNotification( 1319): Media {/mnt/storage/extcamera} state changed from {unmounted} -> {mounted}
Notice it says /mnt/storage/extcamera? And "state changed from unmounted to mounted"? Have you looked in that directory? I bet your pics are there.

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nope, I think I checked that yesterday and folder was empty... I'll double-check tonight but unless there's a second extcamera folder, it was empty
cheers
b

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confirmed, that directory is empty as well.
brgds
b

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Maybe i'm wrong, but i think that this isn't the pictures folder, but the access to the camera, maybe Android want to use your camera as a camera (and not as a storage)
I don't really know, but, with my little linux knowledge i think that it's possible.
(In Linux everything is a file, even the hardware)

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eagleofdeath13 said:
Maybe i'm wrong, but i think that this isn't the pictures folder, but the access to the camera, maybe Android want to use your camera as a camera (and not as a storage)
I don't really know, but, with my little linux knowledge i think that it's possible.
(In Linux everything is a file, even the hardware)
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Everything is possible in Linux, but in this case, the mount is being handled by gphotofs, which is a PTP camera storage driver. It's supposed to mount PTP cameras as R/W filesystems, allowing you to access the stored photos. It's independently developed though, so I'm not sure where it got built in.
Gphotofs does not fully support Canon cameras, supposedly Canon locked their PTP to read only, and it's looks like development stopped in 2008, but it seems like it should still show the files though.
I know it's a big step, but I'd try Urukdroid. I don't have a Canon around to test with, but I'd be interested to see what happens. The 1.0 easy install can be done and set up in less than 10 minutes, with no linux or even windows knowledge needed.
One question though. In the log it shows the camera being disconnected and then gphotofs unmounts it. Does this happen immediately after mounting, or did you unplug the usb? If the log shows "/StorageNotification( 1319): Media {/mnt/storage/extcamera} state changed from {mounted} -> {unmounted}" before you actually disconnect the camera, then at least I know why the extcamera directory is empty. That would just leave overamping and canon PTP incompatibilty as the prime suspects.

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msticninja said:
One question though. In the log it shows the camera being disconnected and then gphotofs unmounts it. Does this happen immediately after mounting, or did you unplug the usb? If the log shows "/StorageNotification( 1319): Media {/mnt/storage/extcamera} state changed from {mounted} -> {unmounted}" before you actually disconnect the camera, then at least I know why the extcamera directory is empty. That would just leave overamping and canon PTP incompatibilty as the prime suspects.
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I unplugged the usb so that's normal... first I'm gonna try another usb sd card reader as workaround
I'm not scared of urukdroid but a bit reluctant to void my warranty, especially seen the USB issue which seems to be quite common. I also want to see what the new firmware is all about (next week?)
But I think I might be going for urukdroid anyways as my storage for apps is running out
cheers
B

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berre said:
I unplugged the usb so that's normal... first I'm gonna try another usb sd card reader as workaround
I'm not scared of urukdroid but a bit reluctant to void my warranty, especially seen the USB issue which seems to be quite common. I also want to see what the new firmware is all about (next week?)
But I think I might be going for urukdroid anyways as my storage for apps is running out
cheers
B
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Hmm, I wonder about gphotofs then. If I get some time I'll research it. As far as Uruk, Archos trolls the forums. They've seen our firmware, and they can't really make a case for it doing any real damage. If you have to send it back for replacement, just reflash the original firmware. They don't bother asking, and so far everybody I know with the "SDE Watermark" has gotten a replacement without issue.