So Ive been with a samsung epic on and off since its launch and have gotten very used to a GREAT camera (for a phone). It takes exceptional stills in all light conditions AND probably the best hd video ive seen on a phone. It seems all the droids and htc phones i see videos of on youtube, even brand new ones, that have literally just come out ,still some how dont compare to samsungs cameras on there devices. Ive been patiently waiting for an evo3d because of all of the specs and awesomeness , and my epic is broken and been around the block being fixed too many times anyways so now i am literally waiting on the evo 3d lol, BUT i feel like even on the evo3d , htc just cant compete with samsungs cameras and im going to miss samsung just for that. I dont know how to explain every time i youtube a sample camera video on every other phone it just seems sub par to the epic and or a few few other samsung phones, esepcially when in motion , wich was flawless on the epic, even in the dark.
People always come back with o well if you want quality video and pics then buy a real camera but i came to rely on the phone as a good cary around camera so theres no reason to have to do otherwise when buying a more advanced phone than the last........anybody got any opinions on the evo3ds camera or expectations ?
Can't really compare to the Evo3d yet, though there are some pics on the Evo3d forums, though they don't bode well for the new Evo.
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Can't really compare to the Evo3d yet, though there are some pics on the Evo3d forums, though they don't bode well for the new Evo.
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yeah im not holding my breath for a good low light camera on the e3d. You would think that since one of the main marketing features is its camera. I really hope HTC went with better camera hardware, A bigger CMOS/CCD sensor would greatly help in low light settings. I would also like to see more manual settings, A bulb mode would be nice, or timed exposures. Even if they had to buy hardware from samsung. HTC please give us a good camera for once.
I thought the photos and videos on the wirefly video review looked very nice..granted they werent in low light
I really had no complaints about my Evo after I bought Vignette. Video still sucked, but stills were great. 3d looks better on both fronts... And I am one who is pumped about 3d photos.
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I thought the photos and videos on the wirefly video review looked very nice..granted they werent in low light
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I thought they looked like ****, my evo takes better pictures than what he showed.
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I thought they looked like ****, my evo takes better pictures than what he showed.
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I guess we will agree to disagree..he took a fee up close macro shots that I know my evo would have a hard time handling..and the video outside looked great..I dunno what you expect..and I live my evo but tje video is pretty ****ty most times
I'd say hold out for the Samsun Within (will have an even better camera than the epic). It's rumored to be coming out July 24th.
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Ehh..good photos with touch **** and samsungs stellar history of support..they are hoping cyanogen can keep the phone updated..I think the camera will be improved and the original evo camera isn't stellar but isn't terrible..once root is acquired and the Roms start flowing the 3d will be the shyt..and tje gs2 ain't coming for months..def .not worth the wait for me
I think the epic has a better 1
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I guess we will agree to disagree..he took a fee up close macro shots that I know my evo would have a hard time handling..and the video outside looked great..I dunno what you expect..and I live my evo but tje video is pretty ****ty most times
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you thought the video looked good?
the thunderbolt has a better camera than the 3d.
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you thought the video looked good?
the thunderbolt has a better camera than the 3d.
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So did alot of people, including myself
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So did alot of people, including myself
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took that with my hero i think that has a better camera than the 3d.
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you thought the video looked good?
the thunderbolt has a better camera than the 3d.
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True. From my Tbolt. I don't have any landscape pics on it so I snapped this.
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took that with my hero i think that has a better camera than the 3d.
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I'm.sorry your getting a little far fetched now..I've had an hero..and the evo 4g was a great Improvement in everything including the camera..there is simply no way that the HTC hero will be superior to the 3d ...wait till you get the phone and take your own pictures ..
The EVO uses the 8mp version of the Omnivision sensor used in the iPhone 4. Only reason iPhone's is better low light is because there are less pixels so the pixels left are bigger.
The Epic has an extra processor for the camera, plus the Evo's main issue with video was the bitrate it records at.
I thought the pics and the video looked kinda meh in that wirefly review, but I think my Vibrant's camera capabilities are pretty amazing for a 5mp phonecam ... oh well, can't wait to get rid of the rest of samsuck's phone
I thought the camera looked good, He may have not adjusted the setting on the camera for different lighting which would make it appear worse. I noticed how important these setting are on my fuze which takes horrible pictures (compared to the newer phones but that's to be expected).
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I thought the camera looked good, He may have not adjusted the setting on the camera for different lighting which would make it appear worse. I noticed how important these setting are on my fuze which takes horrible pictures (compared to the newer phones but that's to be expected).
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If HTC would improve on a couple things..mainly the cameras in their phones they would be the best in the business by far in my opinion..I would hope they would realize this and not release tje 3d with a mediocre lens
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took that with my hero i think that has a better camera than the 3d.
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Also I don't mean to offend but that looks horrible. My Fuze will take a way better picture than that. The glare is just awful. I'm not trying to get into the picture wars, but I have faith in the DEVs here to make me a happy camper. Maybe android people are a lot more impatient and demanding then older members. There's no such thing as the PHONE OF PHONES (As much as we would like), we have to give and take as well plus there a lot of personal preference involved as well.
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Does anyone know if the 5MP camera on the EVO 3D is a better quality camera than other 5mp cameras. I have a hero and I really hope the 2d on the evo camera is better than my hero. I assume it will be...fingers crossed
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while i agree with you toxic, but thats a bit overboard ... and frankly the photos he shows aren't the best, it isn't bad though so one could assume it'll be decent, or slightly better than what was in the video
.. and I find it funny that tech nerds get so and frustrated at each other over something as stupid as a thread, why bother looking at anything you think is a duplicate
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while i agree with you toxic, but thats a bit overboard ... and frankly the photos he shows aren't the best, it isn't bad though so one could assume it'll be decent, or slightly better than what was in the video
.. and I find it funny that tech nerds get so and frustrated at each other over something as stupid as a thread, why bother looking at anything you think is a duplicate
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Also in the video doesnt show him taking the picture, because is a pain in the a$s in the hero trying to get it to focus.
The Sensation has an Instant capture camera AND I HOPE THAT THE EVO 3D ALSO HAS THIS!
IF not, it will be an HTC Hero dual camera in a and HTC Evo phone...
i didnt notice the insta capture on the e3d but i didnt use the normal camera i was checking out the 3d part which is ok but gave me a headache, but the 3d quality was amazing, well for the picture\, not the 3d effect
I thought tje pictures/video from tje wirefly review looked very nice..def much nicer than any hero could do..the evo 4g camera is a big improvement over the hero since I had both and I believe the e3d camera will be of good quality..one can hope..one cool thing though is the dedicated camera button..that alone will help to take much better pictures as you should be able to hold the phone still while taking a shot
Camera sensor technology has made plenty of improvements since the Hero. Its safe to say the EVO 3d will have a newer sensor that is much more capable than the Hero.
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Yeah, I think, short of actually using it, the wirefly review put the camera and video quality. issue to rest. For what its worth, the dudes wife is a professional photographer and commented they were the best on any smartphone she'd seen.
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Yeah, I think, short of actually using it, the wirefly review put the camera and video quality. issue to rest. For what its worth, the dudes wife is a professional photographer and commented they were the best on any smartphone she'd seen.
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for what its worth my wife can be anything i say she is on the internet as well, like htc's lead designer... yet she is just a nurse
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for what its worth my wife can be anything i say she is on the internet as well, like htc's lead designer... yet she is just a nurse
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Yeah didn't think of that, course...he writes for a reputable tech site, and just made up the wife thing... naive of me..
The Evo 3D is a worthy upgrade to the 4G....speedwise predominantly. No doubt this thing moves faster than any modded 4G Rom I ever used on my 4G.
My issue with the 4G was the poor indoor camera pics.
The perplexing thing to me is that HTC...knowing that it had a deficient camera on the 4G , made no improvements in the 3D camera.....in a device named after it's camera!
After 3 days of playing with various settings I can say that unfortunately the indoor pics just equal the 4G. (I'm being...kind. Many say they're worse).
HTC is dead last (compared to the major smartphone manufacturers: Sony, Apple, Microsoft and Samsung) in camera quality.
I'd communicated with HTC about this last fall. They responded positively. But unfortunately nothing materialized.
I use this feature a lot and had hopes.
Ah well...its still fun using this otherwise...as I will for at least 30 days.
(Fanboys: I know: quit trolling; get a real camera; good riddance lol; whatever).
Its my take on the 3D...based on my expectations. Most don't care about camera functionality as I do...so be it.
Yeah I'm holding off on getting the E3D and I'll probably wait for a better device. It looks like they also didn't fix build quality issues (crooked screen, jiggly camera button, no protection for the back camera).
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Yeah I'm holding off on getting the E3D and I'll probably wait for a better device. It looks like they also didn't fix build quality issues (crooked screen, jiggly camera button, no protection for the back camera).
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Ehh it really isn't that bad. My screen is straight, my camera button is fine and idk about the back camera since I just haven't looked. I know all other phones from HTC have had a plastic thing over them. And if they improve the 3vo in the future ill just drop my phone and get a new one for $100
Also someone said something about an app that took better quality pics then the pre-installed one.
I don't know if I recommend getting another device unless camera quality is a premium priority...or speaker volume maybe.
3D is way cool...and the device flies...I mean faster than girlfriends TBolt, Sensation...whatever.
You need to try a application called vignette... Pics look so much better..... Always made my 4th pics much better.
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Yeah...I've tried them all. They do decent patch jobs.
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You need to try a application called vignette... Pics look so much better..... Always made my 4th pics much better.
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Alright, let's be honest. HTC is not famous for its camera but sense 3.0 really stands out. Therefore, I am really cool to say my EVO 4G's camera really sucks even it is equipped with 8MP camera. My old nokia n95 8g with 5MP can take better pictures than evo 4g.
Now with my new phone which is EVO 3D, I am really satisfied with its ability taking good 5MP pictures. It's always focused now compared to evo 4g. However, one day I was at a bar and try to record a video of my friends playing music. My friend was using iphone 4 and I used evo 3d to shoot the video. The quality of evo 3d is not bad but somehow I see the neon sign is overexposed compared to iphone 4. I tried to change the setting but in vain. But iphone 4 doesn't seem to have this problem.
Right now I can only show my videos since I don't have the videos from my friend. Once I got it, I will post it here right away. At the top right corner, you can see overexposed budweiser sign. Iphone 4 managed to get the sign clearly.
Here's the link
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Just wondering if anybody really does the comparison of the cameras between EVO 3D and Iphone 4? I would like to see some real "AMATEUR" pictures and videos. I don't need a professional fanboys or fangirls to do a lot of adjustment before taking the pictures and videos in order to bias the review. Thanks
Don't have any pics on hand but a girlfriend of mine has the iPhone 4 & we battle all the time. But sorry to say, while the 3D has improved on the OG 4G its still not as good as the iPhone 4. There was another post on here with people doing a lil comparison. Some of them tended to think that the hardware was just as good, it was HTC's software that ruined the camera. I can't say either way and don't know how they could either, since nobody has ever run the cameras with different software, but out of the box, the iPhone 4 is still tops when it comes to pics/videos.
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Don't have any pics on hand but a girlfriend of mine has the iPhone 4 & we battle all the time. But sorry to say, while the 3D has improved on the OG 4G its still not as good as the iPhone 4. There was another post on here with people doing a lil comparison. Some of them tended to think that the hardware was just as good, it was HTC's software that ruined the camera. I can't say either way and don't know how they could either, since nobody has ever run the cameras with different software, but out of the box, the iPhone 4 is still tops when it comes to pics/videos.
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+1 got an iPhone 4 myself and the camera is really good. But the. EVO 3d is not bad tho better then that evo 4G imo
If you don't have an Evo3d well you don't have an Evo3d
Hi I've been sneaking into this forum every so often. I have a s2 and love it but also love technology so looking now at 3d i've looked at evo and lgs version but don't know if it's worth the update to 3d. I also love sense and on some reviews the evo is flawless in speed..
What do you users think?
What score does it get on quadrant
Also if you take a picture or video in 3d can it be converted back to 2d for printing and viewing on pc
Thanks in advance
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Hi I've been sneaking into this forum every so often. I have a s2 and love it but also love technology so looking now at 3d i've looked at evo and lgs version but don't know if it's worth the update to 3d. I also love sense and on some reviews the evo is flawless in speed..
What do you users think?
What score does it get on quadrant
Also if you take a picture or video in 3d can it be converted back to 2d for printing and viewing on pc
Thanks in advance
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All pictures can be viewed in 2D as well and it usually asks to convert to 2D when emailing. Not sure about the video, I do not take much video in 3D.
SGS2 scores higher in Quad but that is really nothing to go by.
Evo 3D camera shutter lag is torture and makes any moving object impossible to shoot. I am looking forward to the better camera on the SGS2.
Either way, they are both top of the line devices and you can't go wrong with either.
You also have to think, we are EVO 3D owners and are excited to try something new. It doesn't mean the SGS2 will be better for us, I think at this point we are just hoping it is. We will know for sure come next week though.
i always had good experiences with samsung phones...
until they started making "smart phones"... they aren't very smart about it.
the phone has great hardware, yes. but samsung phones lack the support that HTC has from them to us (the consumers). HTC is ALWAYS right on top of problems that arise, while samsung is a little more like sprint in the customer service department. kind of like "if somebody complains, we'll deal with it. if not, whatever."
I have owned 4 samsung phones. three of them were flawless and perfect. the most recent, however, was a samsung moment. that thing was a nightmare. and i got no help from sprint or samsung with it.
stick with google nexus phones, or HTC. that is my new mode now. and i love the hell out of my 3D by the way. nothing this thing can't handle, and it will only get better as more software is dev'd for it in the hacking community.
**edit... to the OP, it is extremely important that you remember this one thing... the software inside the phone is just as important to the performance as the hardware...
I have both I decided why do I have to choose someday I pop the sim in the evo somedays the galaxy s2, beautiful screen very then and fast, but I gotta admit I have little more fun playing with the evo 3d.
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I have both I decided why do I have to choose someday I pop the sim in the evo somedays the galaxy s2, beautiful screen very then and fast, but I gotta admit I have little more fun playing with the evo 3d.
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Can you please give more detail.....What makes the 3D more fun? How do the screens compare? Is the Evo's qhd display overshadowed by the Super Amoled Plus screen even though it has a lower res? Does the SGS2's camera have the shutter lag like the 3D?
The UI is just enjoyable on the e3d. And its very fast ..the differences in that regard is neglible..quadrant is useless except for fps and for evaluating your own phone after flashing a rom etc. The shutter lag isn't terrible it just isn't instant and I'm sure it will be improved with an update eventually ..I for one have taken nice shots with the e3d but yes fast moving objects can be hard to capture but most smartphones suffer from that ..either way you would have a super phone and def ahead of the curve ..software has a ways to go to catch up to the hardware within these devices
I actually love the SGS2. I got one in Mid June or July as the EVO 3D wasn't available here in Asia yet. I have no regret in getting the SGS2 first as it's one POWERFUL phone. But I bought the EVO 3D just last week and REALLY ENJOYING the built, solidness, and the 3D features. I love watching 3D Youtube even though it looks like it's damaging my eyes LOL! But if you were to read text alot, the EVO 3D is sharper as it has a higher resolution. Colors aren't comparable to the SGS2 due to the super amoled plus display. So you can't go wrong with either of them. Both has different features, etc. I just can't pass up the idea of not having both of them as it won't be fair to one or the other
i dont like the colors on the amoleds. yeah blacks are great but but the other colors kill me. the whites on my evo3d shine compare to my nexus.
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I'm a sense lover, so the EVO 3d fits my needs well. I'm also easily satisfied, and as long as it does what I want it to do, I'm good. I live in big city where 4G is ubiquitous and fast, tho I'm mostly on 3g to save battery. Whenever I need to download large files or watch youtube vids tho, 4G always does me good.
I have yet to mess with my phone, so everything is stock. Sense UI is pretty, but also fast. I do a lot on my phone as I'm mostly away from my computer. From online banking to watching movies, to playing games, to navigating the city, to listening to streaming music, and much more. This phone makes it all happen.
I know if I had the sgs2, I'd be doing the same things on it, and be raving about it as well. But I have this phone, so I make the best of it.
3d is awesome to me. People are always delighted to see it. And it gives the phone a special niche. At first tho, my eyes did hurt after prolong viewing, but I can honestly say after almost 3 months of having the device, my eyes don't hurt anymore. It's like evolution. My eyes have adjusted to it.
The only thing I hate abt he EVO 3d is that while charging, it slows down. I feel the difference. Its like night and day. Other than that, its an awesome Android phone, and as long as you don't have hardware or software related problems with the phone, its a very delightful and enjoyable experience.
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I have both I decided why do I have to choose someday I pop the sim in the evo somedays the galaxy s2, beautiful screen very then and fast, but I gotta admit I have little more fun playing with the evo 3d.
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I also have both. I got the S2 about 8 weeks ago and love it but I was torn between it and the sensation at the time. So when the Evo 3d was launched here in Canada I broke down last week and pick it up. Both phones are great.
Hey guys, simple question really...
since it was proved that the sensation and evo hardware are mostly similar
so whats keeping us from shooting 1080p video ?
I THINK it has to do with having two cameras. I'm not 100% sure.
BUT that's not very important. Recording 1080p on your cellphone is just foolish. File sizes would be through the roof and the difference in quality is not THAT big from what I've seen. It's just more pixels.
I think it was just a tradeoff, 3D for 1080p. I believe the Gnex can do 1080p with its 5MP shooter, so I doubt the 5MP cameras we have are to blame.
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Even when it can do 720p, it's not even that good...
Sensation's camera looks much better than ours.
I dont think its the dual sensor thingy..
cuz all camera applications work with no problems so far..
Yeah lots of phones are able to do that with a 5mp cam.. thats what made me wonder in the first place
and I know its 1080p is too much
as for me I dont even use 720p
but I just want to know why we cant ...
It could be done EVO 3d camera takes better pics then Samsung epic can. All about the lighting and clean lens.
Just need a kernel and code for it..
i dont want to be the debbie downer(wommpppp woooooommpp) here but I have never understood shooting 1080p with such a small/crap sensor anyway. The quality would still suck. I believe this applies to all phones. Maybe when new sensor tech comes out but now, its just a marketing number.
camera driverers are kernel related. you would need to write a new driver, new app, pretty much rebuild the camera functions from scratch. it is possible, but an ass load of work and like somebody else mentioned, its a phone, and few phones, including this one, have the hardware quality (because it is much more than just size of sensors) to make it worth while. not like it will have gopro quality ever...
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It could be done EVO 3d camera takes better pics then Samsung epic can. All about the lighting and clean lens.
Just need a kernel and code for it..
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Having owned both, I have to strongly disagree with that statement.
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Having owned both, I have to strongly disagree with that statement.
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Oh just playing with the epic 4g in sprint I could see the camera absolutely raped my evo 3d
just hate the fact they lied about it at first ya know . Just saw 720p on a friends et4g WOW!!!
I would settle for that 720p any day lol
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Having owned both, I have to strongly disagree with that statement.
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again having owned both. epic touch camera did in fact rape my Evo 3D. owned them both side by side. shot the same scene with each phone and viewed the results on my laptop.
that bring said. that was about the only thing I liked over the e3d. the et4g still wreaked of Samsung and their lack of overall build quality. the earpiece was terrible, the screen was not as responsive, the screen was low resolution, just utterly **** overall.
only other thing I thought was decent was the battery life. I got a solid day out of it.
The video quality is limited by how fast the memory card can save data. To save 1080p on a low end memory card would require a huge amount of data to be compressed in real time, which would both be difficult to do resource wise and also significantly lower the video quality.
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The video quality is limited by how fast the memory card can save data. To save 1080p on a low end memory card would require a huge amount of data to be compressed in real time, which would both be difficult to do resource wise and also significantly lower the video quality.
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yes, and to ad to what Haus is saying, and he knows this already, so it's for the OP, the disk write speed is only one factor out of the several that go into making this possible.
There are image processing limits that are hardware related to the EVO 3D, and let's be serious just about anything that is a cell phone, that would make shooting in true HD simply a waste of space and dev time. that fact of it is that you cannot make the light sensors, image sensors, and glass, in the camera any better. Sure, like i said you could built new drivers, basically engineer/re-engineer the firmware to make 1080p happen, but just would do you any good. you are still limited by the device's hardware.
it would still look like **** compared to a go pro or REAL camera. lol
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it would still look like **** compared to a go pro or REAL camera. lol
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WHAT!? My EVO 3D pwns the GO PRO _any day_ !!!!