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I have a Gtab that was being used by the head of the IT department of the place that i work. He has lost BOTH the charger and the usb connector. I was going to just go to radio shack and pick up a charger for it but they need to know what the power requirements are for it and i cant seem to find them anywhere. anyone know what the charger out put is stock on one of these? also is there an easy source for the small port that semi looks like micro usb to standard usb cable?
Thanks in advance
Chad
The stock charger puts out 12 V and 2 amps.
Here's a few
chuddly said:
I have a Gtab that was being used by the head of the IT department of the place that i work. He has lost BOTH the charger and the usb connector. I was going to just go to radio shack and pick up a charger for it but they need to know what the power requirements are for it and i cant seem to find them anywhere. anyone know what the charger out put is stock on one of these? also is there an easy source for the small port that semi looks like micro usb to standard usb cable?
Thanks in advance
Chad
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There are several other vendors that use the same power adapter with different markings on it. Kodak uses them in their digital photo frames and there are several vendors on eBay if you don't mind it coming from China and waiting a month to get it.
This vendor on Amazon has a few in stock (just the adapter). I bet you can get it overnighted.
Link to Amazon seller
If you do want to search for it on the Internet or in eBay use "MPA-630" in the search criteria.
Also, that's a mini-usb port on the side of the gTab, not a micro-usb port.
It also uses the same charger as the Kodak Photo Frame...
Search the web for "MPA-630 power supply" and you will find a replacement.
Rev
P. S. -- Oh, also, the PC to G-Tab cable is just a standard USB to mini-USB cable like is often used on
cameras, mp3 players, etc. USB on the PC side and mini on the G-Tab side.
I just bought a Universal external charger for my Gtab, but I need to know what the polarity should be, can anyone help me with that?
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That's what's on mine if that helps
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That's what's on mine if that helps
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it does, thank you.
sjmoreno said:
There are several other vendors that use the same power adapter with different markings on it. Kodak uses them in their digital photo frames and there are several vendors on eBay if you don't mind it coming from China and waiting a month to get it.
This vendor on Amazon has a few in stock (just the adapter). I bet you can get it overnighted.
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If you do want to search for it on the Internet or in eBay use "MPA-630" in the search criteria.
Also, that's a mini-usb port on the side of the gTab, not a micro-usb port.
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FYI, the PSAD24 (link above) is NOT a compatible substitute for the MPA-630. Please do not make the same mistake I did by purchasing the item linked above for your gTab, as it has a different connector.
Ecrap website has the charger for $23.95
Forum member itsteve's website electroniccrap dot com is selling the oem power supply and as of yesterday had some in stock. Get on it quick because they sell out quick
I don't know if either will actually work with the Transformer as the word 'standard' is used in the description, just thought I'd post the info for others. No .... it's not me that's selling the bits.
http://shop.ebay.co.uk/i.html?_from...sus+transformer+usb&_sacat=See-All-Categories
Just looks like a standard 5V 1000mA charger like all the other USB chargers available on eBay and not a 15V USB 3.0 compatible one that is required.
That's what I was wondering too. I've sent a message to the seller and have also included the url to this thread, hopefully we'll get a reply.
UKseagull said:
I don't know if either will actually work with the Transformer as the word 'standard' is used in the description, just thought I'd post the info for others. No .... it's not me that's selling the bits.
http://shop.ebay.co.uk/i.html?_from...sus+transformer+usb&_sacat=See-All-Categories
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I've got a DIY on how to put together a Wall and car charger for the TF, check link in my signature.
Not one to relax and enjoy the spoils of war after conquering the Wall/Car charger mystery I have decided to move on to the subject of USB host without the dock. Sorry if I am duplicating other similar threads but starting a new thread helps me through the process of testing. I'm hoping the asus USB host adapter will be out soon so I can gut it like tuna but till then it is back to the rig I used for the charger probing.
Update 10/16/2011
So what we actually now know.
1. USB host mode requires a board found in the USB Host adapter from Asus
2. Some users are having issues with the adapter staying connected. Bad design IMO, too big of a device to be hanging off the tablet connected to thumb drives and other devices.
3. 5V is being supplied to usb devices, I have not personally verified this but will soon.
Some options
1. Build USB Host "Dongle" with connector and USB adapter.
Sounds like people are having disconnection issues, a dongle might be a better solution for that taking the pressure off the connector on the TF and move it down a wire to dongle connector. This will be my first build since it shouldn't be to difficult.
2. Machine a small attachable dock that sits at the bottom of the TF which contains the host adapter, memory cart reader slots and USB ports.
I love this idea but will take time and money I don't have at the moment. BUT drawings are already done and I'm having my machinist put it on his to do list at the bottom. Prototype in 45 days but no promises.
3. Modding a TF to contain the host adapter internally.
This requires you to open up your TF and install the board and a connector. A daunting task for anyone with even good circuit board and fabrication skills. Best person for this job is Bob, but is there space in the case?
Additional Thread and Web resource links
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18474358#post18474358
First Mod, Host Adapter dongle.
While building this on I'll looking in to the capability of charging the TF while using the host adapter.
USB adapter shows up tomorrow and I hit the ground running. Pics and updates to come. Stay tuned!
Hey,
Any updates on this? I would love to see a solution to connect USB devices without needing a dock.
Waiting for the official adaptor might take a while: Asus Australia confirmed that the adaptor is not coming any time soon (and maybe never to AUS at all), Asus Germany can't give a specific date.
DevCake said:
Not one to relax and enjoy the spoils of war after conquering the Wall/Car charger mystery I have decided to move on to the subject of USB host without the dock. Sorry if I am duplicating other similar threads but starting a new thread helps me through the process of testing. I'm hoping the asus USB host adapter will be out soon so I can gut it like tuna but till then it is back to the rig I used for the charger probing.
So what do we know
1. Connecting a USB 2.0 female to female coupler using the factor sync/charge cable from the Table to other USB devices does not work.
2. Asus will be releasing an adapter that allows for USB host features and this tells us it can be done.
3. Asus used some of the usb 3.0 pins to show termination from the tablet to start charging at 15V so this method might be in practice for the usb host function.
I've done a little monitoring of data pins on the factory cable but see no difference between when a device is and is not connected. I have a feeling we are dealing with 2 things, 5v power from the tablet to power the usb device and a pin termination to trigger the host function.
~DC
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you can use USB3.0 female to female coupler
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you can use USB3.0 female to female coupler
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Have you tried with this adaptor? Do es it works?
Anyone with a USB 3.0 female to female adapter yet?
gordec said:
Anyone with a USB 3.0 female to female adapter yet?
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Following the OP's logic..
I do not believe that a Female to Female USB3 would be enough. I suspect and trying to locate one is a pain that you will need not only a USB3 AF to AF but also a USB3 Powered Hub (or USB 3 Powered Device) as the TF cable does not supply power..
I tried the USB 2 AF to AF path with my powered hub and can confirm it does not work, TF will mount fine on PC via the HUB so it is not a connection problem so I suspect like the OP that we need all the magic pins of a USB3 connection which logically would also mean we all the magic of a USB3 hub (or device) as well..
I cannot find a USB3 AF to Micro AF cable anyplace (They are all male) so even if I can get my hands on a USB3 powered hub (which are also rare) I could not complete this experiment..
I suspect the lack of the OP's postings would also indicate they are having the same trouble as well..
So in summary, I strongly believe we need USB3 Powered Hub + USB 3 Cable from the Hub to the TF Cable
Anyone got those?
Well I done some searching and found these two that should provide all the right specifications for the TF but I am starting to have some significant doubts that this is all worth it considering this is only a theoretical solution based on USB3 pins logic vs just pay the $149 price tag and get the keyboard dock that we know will work..
USB 3.0 Adapter (A Female to Micro B male)
http://www.usbfever.com/index_eproduct_view.php?products_id=1882
ICY BOX 4 Port USB 3.0 Hub
http://www.icybox.com.tw/page/product_accessories/product_accessories-ib-ac610.htm
*sighs*
As I posted in the other usb host thread, the USB adaptor is listed in a German online shop: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103784
I just want to know when that damn Asus USB dongle is releasing. I don't need the keyboard dock. Already have a 13.3 laptop.
the same site has also in stock the sd adapter (nice for my photo machine, avail at 19€ as well), and the minidock (2 usb + stand) at 29€.
The sleeve is avail at 34.90€, the vga cable at 29€, and a travel kit at 39€.
Everithing is said being available in 2-4 days...
Last week was baja 500 prep for my but i'm back and moving forward with testing.
Don't waste your time with the female 3.0 adapter. The tablet is using one of the 40 pins on the proprietary adapter to look for termination from the keyboard dock to activate the USB host function. This is my theory but I still will test all 9 of the 3.0 pins.
The only way I will be able to test all 40 pins on the tablet connector is to either find a bare connector or wait for the asus usb adapter and open it. I'll start lookng for a bare connector next Week
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~DC
So no new solutions for hosting on the TF? No new information about the adapter?
Hello guys,
Does anyone try this:
http://www.aliexpress.com/product-g...on-cable-Micro-SD-card-cable-wholesalers.html
maxmen123 said:
So no new solutions for hosting on the TF? No new information about the adapter?
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Nothing yet on either. The adapter from Asus has not shown up anywhere and I'm still in testing mode for a DIY solution.
vaystikh said:
Hello guys,
Does anyone try this:
http://www.aliexpress.com/product-g...on-cable-Micro-SD-card-cable-wholesalers.html
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I don't see a reason why that won't work but my focus is to activate the host function so that USB devices will be recognized and accessible.
DevCake said:
Last week was baja 500 prep for my but i'm back and moving forward with testing.
Don't waste your time with the female 3.0 adapter. The tablet is using one of the 40 pins on the proprietary adapter to look for termination from the keyboard dock to activate the USB host function. This is my theory but I still will test all 9 of the 3.0 pins.
~DC
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Thanks DevCake looking forward to seeing some more results.. I would not be surprised if your theory is correct.. I not gone down the Female adapter path yet until we can verify exactly why USB Host is not being enabled..
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Nothing yet on either. The adapter from Asus has not shown up anywhere and I'm still in testing mode for a DIY solution.
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The adapter has shown up in a German online shop (cyberport.de, search for "usb extension kit" or "sd extension kit") and is listed as in Stock. I wrote them an email to get confirmation that they really have it in Stock and shippable. Maybe somebody in Germany can make a teardown and show us the internals!
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The adapter has shown up in a German online shop (cyberport.de, search for "usb extension kit" or "sd extension kit") and is listed as in Stock. I wrote them an email to get confirmation that they really have it in Stock and shippable. Maybe somebody in Germany can make a teardown and show us the internals!
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If you google "1D09-36X" it comes up with other EU sites that carry it. Hopefully it won't be long till we get it in the US.
Does anyone happen to know the type/model/name of the connector is.
Maybe we can find something that is the same pin config and cut it open and splice in a usb 3.0 female cable.
I've spliced many a cable together for similar purposes, just need the connector end.
We as reseller have direct contact with asus. I called today Asus Netherlands about the usb host adapter.
Atm this moment there only 2 accessoires on the market, which are as follow:
- Asus Sleeve
- Asus Dock
The Sales Manager at Asus Netherlands told me that several other people asked for the USB Host adapter also. They said it wont be on the market until 3th quarter of the year (Aug/Sept/Oct).
Asus Taiwain puts these items on the market. Asus Taiwan understands that there is some demand for this USB Adapter.
So, we have to wait until 3th qaurter 2011 or try to fabricate something ourselfs or wait for some crazy chinese which puts something similiar on the market.
it seems that some people on the forum say they have a standard micro USB connector on the Flyer??? and most of the ebay sellers list standard micro usb products for the HTC Flyer
MY connection is a proprietary one - it looks like a micro usb but has a 'step' in it
like this one...zoom in on the picture
http://www.expansys.com.au/htc-flyer-data-cable-dc-t500-extmicro-usb-12pin-white-209995/
wtf is going on?
Try it, you will like it, except for charging.............
try what? what will i like? what about the charging?
off the shelf micro usb works fine.
The proprietary style is only for charging
If u have a micro usb cable then u have to put it in the opposite way. Like this
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It's a generic micro USB connection. The extra's is just that, extra. And not mandatory. I read somewhere (could be here, could be somewhere else) that they made the different connector so you wouldn't use the charger on a device that can't handle the power. But you can use any micro USB cable to connect the device to your PC. And you can even use any micro USB charger, but you'll need a lot of patience as it'll take a long, long time!
While you can use a standard micro USB cable, I have heard it would be better to use the HTC one because it will stay in better. I have used a standard one just fine, but the HTC one does hold in better IMO.
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If u have a micro usb cable then u have to put it in the opposite way. Like this
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Its both proprietary AND standard. As vj092887 said, you insert the micro-USB male plug "upside-down" from how you would on most HTC devices. And it plugs into the "bottom half" of the jack. All this is in respect to the tablet laying flat, with the screen facing up.
If you use the included charger or sync cable, it takes up the "whole" jack. Sync doesn't really make a difference. But the included charger is much faster than standard HTC Micro-USB chargers.
jeebus on a swizzle stick, only after reading this did i actually shove a standard micro usb into it and i'll be damned.....
thanks guys
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jeebus on a swizzle stick, only after reading this did i actually shove a standard micro usb into it and i'll be damned.....
thanks guys
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Shortly after I got my Flyer, I was at work and wanted to connect it to my laptop. And realized I had left my (HTC) cable at home, sticking in my PC there. I was also kind of disappointed as I had bought the flyer specifically because you could use a micro USB cable!
So, I thought, well, why not try it and see if it fits. And as I generally always first try to stick a cable in upside down (don't ask me why, even if I think about it, I'll try it upside down first ), I got lucky this time and found it fitted
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Shortly after I got my Flyer, I was at work and wanted to connect it to my laptop. And realized I had left my (HTC) cable at home, sticking in my PC there. I was also kind of disappointed as I had bought the flyer specifically because you could use a micro USB cable!
So, I thought, well, why not try it and see if it fits. And as I generally always first try to stick a cable in upside down (don't ask me why, even if I think about it, I'll try it upside down first ), I got lucky this time and found it fitted
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USB cables tend to go in the right way on the third try!
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And as I generally always first try to stick a cable in upside down (don't ask me why, even if I think about it, I'll try it upside down first ),
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i NEVER put in cables upside down (because i always put a little dot on the top side of the connector using nail polish...you can use liquid paper for a more 'manly' experience)
Is there a source for an innexpensive extra cable? I've been using a standard micro USB and it works but feels very loose compared to the official HTC cable that came with my flyer.
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If you mean with a HTC style power connector, no, that's for charging only. For data cables Ebay or Amazon has them for about $1 each.
DigitalMD said:
If you mean with a HTC style power connector, no, that's for charging only. For data cables Ebay or Amazon has them for about $1 each.
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I wouldnt buy those generic cables from ebay/amazon etc they are poorly made and can either break off in your device, break off the connector on the device, or short out.. I highly recommend getting either Motorola or HTC OEM cables. They cost $2 - $5 but its worth it.
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-SKN5...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1323629211&sr=1-1
Does this mean that the MHL adapter with 5 pins will work (standard Micro USB), and I don't need the 12 pin MHL version (extMicro USB)?
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Does this mean that the MHL adapter with 5 pins will work (standard Micro USB), and I don't need the 12 pin MHL version (extMicro USB)?
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yes! but apparently it charges really slowly so microUSB is best left to data transfer only
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I wouldnt buy those generic cables from ebay/amazon etc they are poorly made and can either break off in your device, break off the connector on the device, or short out.. I highly recommend getting either Motorola or HTC OEM cables. They cost $2 - $5 but its worth it.
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-SKN5...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1323629211&sr=1-1
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Perhaps I wasn't clear enough. Although a standard micro USB connector works for me when transferring data I don't like how loose it seems in the Flyer's socket. So I want another cable just like the one that came with my Flyer, a micro ExtUSB cable. I've only found mini ExtUSB cables not micro ones, hence my request for an inexpensive cable source.
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bsoplinger said:
Perhaps I wasn't clear enough. Although a standard micro USB connector works for me when transferring data I don't like how loose it seems in the Flyer's socket. So I want another cable just like the one that came with my Flyer, a micro ExtUSB cable. I've only found mini ExtUSB cables not micro ones, hence my request for an inexpensive cable source.
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there are no inexpensive extUSB cables...i don't know where you are but try expansys or amazon in your country...they're all upwards of $20
There is no 3rd party source for the non-standard HTC proprietary connector.
HTC manufactured Windows Mobile and Android-based devices have a proprietary connector called HTC Micro ExtUSB (Extended USB). ExtUSB combines Micro-USB (with which it is backwards-compatible) with audio input as well as audio and video output in an 11-pin connector. The extra pins also allow for higher charging currents.
If you really want to spend on a high quality cable, here you go, the best, most expensive per foot USB micro cable in the world . For ~$25 this should keep your Flyer and small pets from bursting into flame............
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4256657&CatId=77
By the way, all the generic or other brand MHL adapters work fine with the HTC for connection to HDMI.
I recently saw that Dealextreme is stocking two wall chargers for the Asus Transformer series of tablets
One with the proprietary connector built in
http://dx.com/p/ac-power-adapter-ch...101-tf201-sl101-black-2-round-pin-plug-137392
and one with a 15v USB port
http://dx.com/p/ac-power-adapter-ch...mer-tf101-tf201-black-2-round-pin-plug-126492
has anyone tried them? I think I'll order the one with the proprietary connector, and so if it fails, I'll still have the connector to tinker. Also, if it works, I'll get to keep the cable at home, protected, instead of in my messenger bag.
I have tried the one with the 15v USB port - and it works just fine.
The best value for money (as always from DX).
i could buy those charger on ebay.. but what is the review about those chargers
I use second and i dont have any problems.:good:
Bought the one with the proprietary connector built in from them - works just fine.
I bought one from ebay here. It works great and you don't have to worry about that stupid asus brick crapping out on you.
Anyway, it's good to have one functioning properly with charger connected.
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Anyway, it's good to have one functioning properly with charger connected.
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You mean the one from the ebay?
ordered one and it worked. Shipping to germany was free
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Vyrlokar said:
I recently saw that Dealextreme is stocking two wall chargers for the Asus Transformer series of tablets
One with the proprietary connector built in
http://dx.com/p/ac-power-adapter-ch...101-tf201-sl101-black-2-round-pin-plug-137392
and one with a 15v USB port
http://dx.com/p/ac-power-adapter-ch...mer-tf101-tf201-black-2-round-pin-plug-126492
has anyone tried them? I think I'll order the one with the proprietary connector, and so if it fails, I'll still have the connector to tinker. Also, if it works, I'll get to keep the cable at home, protected, instead of in my messenger bag.
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How to use this in the US? Is the round-pin connector removable?
TIA;
Pat
This one is half the price of the asus, available with amazon prime, and got REALLY good reviews. Just ordered one today, will provide feedback when received.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007Q4VP9I/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00
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How to use this in the US? Is the round-pin connector removable?
TIA;
Pat
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USA version of the non USB one can also be found for that seller (Flat pin plugs). Search tf101 charger. I'd give you the link but I dont have rights yet.