Wow I can't believe that either Android or HTC took such a serious step backwards with this new applications screen. I mean this stinks of way back in my Windows 6.x days. My EVO 4G applications drawer would just scroll and scroll so quickly and smoothly from top to bottom, relative to how fast and hard the finger gesture was. Now here we are again with this lame stepped scrolling app screen environment. You flick down and the screen moves exactly one set of five rows and slams to a stop, like you have reached the end. So you have to flick it again to get another whole five rows. In fact if you move the screen manually and slowly you can even see a thin white break across the screen where the stops are forced to happen. This sucks so much compaired to the beautiful, smooth, fluid animation we had before. Pleeeeease tell me there is a way to change this.
open app tray-hit menu-tap list=problem solved
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Wow I can't believe that either Android or HTC took such a serious step backwards with this new applications screen. I mean this stinks of way back in my Windows 6.x days. My EVO 4G applications drawer would just scroll and scroll so quickly and smoothly from top to bottom, relative to how fast and hard the finger gesture was. Now here we are again with this lame stepped scrolling app screen environment. You flick down and the screen moves exactly one set of five rows and slams to a stop, like you have reached the end. So you have to flick it again to get another whole five rows. In fact if you move the screen manually and slowly you can even see a thin white break across the screen where the stops are forced to happen. This sucks so much compaired to the beautiful, smooth, fluid animation we had before. Pleeeeease tell me there is a way to change this.
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Install Launcher Pro, ADWex, Launcher7, GoLauncher....I'm sure I'm missing dozens of them....Launcher Pro is the smoothest and most AOSP experience, though ADW is free with no nag and OSS, ADWex is the pay version, Launcher 7 is a Wp7 copycat, very smooth...not too feature rich...Go Launcher I've never used, but, seen good things from....
But you lose your sense widgets....
Screw rosie, I'll throw everything away to do away with that hideous beast
I agree with the OP. Converting it to.list is dooky too. I guess this new app drawer is HTCs was of eliminating the scrolling lag..
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I thought this was a question...
I happen to like how it is now but to each his own..List mode is the best your gonna get until we get some cracked boot loaders and roms
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I agree with the OP. Converting it to.list is dooky too. I guess this new app drawer is HTCs was of eliminating the scrolling lag..
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My thoughts exactly, lol. I was like, hmm, that was an easy way for them to fix the scrolling lag thru the app drawer, haha. I don't mind it, but look forward to the day I can get a custom rom on this bad boy and run some AOSP.
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open app tray-hit menu-tap list=problem solved
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Yeah I was aware of that option but really don't think that is a good trade off.
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I agree with the OP. Converting it to.list is dooky too. I guess this new app drawer is HTCs was of eliminating the scrolling lag..
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I guess my lag wasn't that bad, but i would have thought that a dual core proc and 1gig of ram would have been enough to fix that.
Of all the things to complain about. I only knew it was a matter of time before people started acting like it was the end of the world because of something as minor as an app drawer. It was the same with the EVO.
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I guess my lag wasn't that bad, but i would have thought that a dual core proc and 1gig of ram would have been enough to fix that.
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bad coding is bad coding. we weren't dropping frames, they just weren't there to begin with.
ADWex and LP are always liquid smooth to me, on my Moment, Evo4G, Nook Color and everyones phone I put it on who asks to 'make it faster'.....in fact, as much as I hate sense I could deal with it or even--gasp--like it (those are some sexy widgets) if that god damned app drawer wasn't so god damn ugly-laggy-slow .... stock launcher on my moment was smoother....and, well...nuff said
The app drawer has been like that sense the thunderbolt released, I guess u never had a sense 2.1 rom
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I guess my lag wasn't that bad, but i would have thought that a dual core proc and 1gig of ram would have been enough to fix that.
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I think they might be fixing it for "less equipped" phones. I can imagine that several "low end" devices will have Sense 3.0 at some point.
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The app drawer has been like that sense the thunderbolt released, I guess u never had a sense 2.1 rom
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Nope I went straight from my EVO 4G to this and my ROM of choice was always the trusty Sprint Lover's rom, which was the original sense.
Launcher Pro Plus (the $3 is worth it) works very smoothly (I can scroll the whole app list in 1 swipe, no lag). I got Fancy Widgets free from the Amazon Apps store awhile back, and it makes up for the lost Sense widgets. I got addicted to having the scrolling lower launcher bar - there's no way I can go back to just 3 buttons that I can't assign
I actually like the vertical paginated style in the Sense 3.0 drawer. It reminds me of the horizontal paginated in ADW, which is what I always used. I wouldn't go so far to say it's a major step backwards, though. It's not really the end of the world.
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Launcher Pro Plus (the $3 is worth it) works very smoothly (I can scroll the whole app list in 1 swipe, no lag). I got Fancy Widgets free from the Amazon Apps store awhile back, and it makes up for the lost Sense widgets. I got addicted to having the scrolling lower launcher bar - there's no way I can go back to just 3 buttons that I can't assign
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Fancy Widgets doesn't look anywhere even close to as nice as the new Sense 3 widgets man.
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Of all the things to complain about. I only knew it was a matter of time before people started acting like it was the end of the world because of something as minor as an app drawer. It was the same with the EVO.
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yup, people complains for everything this days, remember the 30 days return policy mi gente!!
I remember seeing a review that you're able to pinch the app draw to see all the apps at the same time, then select the screen with the app you want. Just like the home screen on the regular Evo.
Is this how it works? Cause that would eliminate a reason to fast scroll for me & also explain why there's a line every 5 rows
lol @ some of you guys getting upset at people who don't like the app drawer.... calm down little fellas... we aren't insulting you.
I love the phone so far, hate the app drawer... using anything other than sense 3.0 on this phone right now would be silly IMO.
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when i had my diamond sense used to have a side swiping animation which was removed due to speed issues. now the hd2 is here is there a way of getting this back or is it in the code anymore?
If you mean swiping to the side to change tabs instead of using the slider then Yeah its there....... it is on mine anyway....
Theres no animation though, it just switches to the next tab........
same here...
if you mean something different, describe it better pls
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yea you can swipe, but when.sense first came out it used to animate like side swiping in sense for android does now quite hard to explain really..
it would move to the next screen not go to the next.screen
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yea you can swipe, but when.sense first came out it used to animate like side swiping in sense for android does now quite hard to explain really..
it would move to the next screen not go to the next.screen
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personally I can live without that, sense is a memory hog as it is without any extra animation..... I only leave the weather animation on because it looks so pretty lol
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its not that bad, i couldn't live without it. this phone i reckon could cope with it. i think i was removed years ago though. wishful thinking on my part
your right, the hd2 should be able to handle it......
My $670 Atrix turns into a $200 G1 when I decide to run a live wallpaper. Scrolling becomes nightmare-ish (especially on the Starlight live wallpaper), and the 3D App screen comes up with 1-2 frames per second, or something to that effect.
I'm using Launcher Pro Plus. Unrooted, undeodexed. This isn't why I bought the "world's most powerful phone". Any solutions?
EDIT: This is exactly what I'm talking about:
See how choppy the transitions and "apps fly in" transition is when you bring up the app drawer on a live wallpaper?
I would say something is maybe wrong with the phone itself. I can run any live wallpaper perfectly whether on stock or modded roms. Can you exchange it for another one still?
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I would say something is maybe wrong with the phone itself. I can run any live wallpaper perfectly whether on stock or modded roms. Can you exchange it for another one still?
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I "can" run it, but the homescreen-to-App-drawer animations become choppy, and scrolling down the apps become noticeably choppy as well.
What have you done with your phone so far?
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I "can" run it, but the homescreen-to-App-drawer animations become choppy, and scrolling down the apps become noticeably choppy as well.
What have you done with your phone so far?
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Well I would say the best thing you could do is root it and install gingerblur.Gingerblur can remove all that att bloat slowing it down and plus it gives you options of having hulu, webtop hack, sideloading etc. Also what firmware are you on 4.1.57 or 4.1.26 if your on the latter I would definetly update. Even if you dont wanna root and mod then an update will definetly improve your situation over crappy 4.1.26 its known to be more laggy.
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Well I would say the best thing you could do is root it and install gingerblur.Gingerblur can remove all that att bloat slowing it down and plus it gives you options of having hulu, webtop hack, sideloading etc. Also what firmware are you on 4.1.57 or 4.1.26 if your on the latter I would definetly update. Even if you dont wanna root and mod then an update will definetly improve your situation over crappy 4.1.26 its known to be more laggy.
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Well I have the Bell Atrix (the one with no development at all)... not sure Gingerblur would work, but thanks.
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Well I have the Bell Atrix (the one with no development at all)... not sure Gingerblur would work, but thanks.
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Well actually you can now deodex by using this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1013093 and you can also have webtop using this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12250126&postcount=459 and you probably could update it. go into your about phone settings and check and see if there is one available. Also you could root it using this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016060 which should also let you enable sideloading and tethering. Thats not a bad choice of stuff to have. It's not gingerblur but still all worthy things to do and have.
Same thing here, my atria slows down soo much with a live wallpaper, kinda sad
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Same thing here, my atria slows down soo much with a live wallpaper, kinda sad
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I really, really hate Motorola now. I should have gone for the Nexus S, but no 720p recording is just unforgivable.... but then again it costs $100 less.
Oh, and the Tegrazone games are NOT worth getting an Atrix. At all. Screen is not big enough to notice the difference anyway, and there are way too many good "non-Tegra" Android games.
I really like my Atrix, but now might take it back to Best Buy. Data speed is to slow and I use my mobile hotspot connection daily for work. I went back to my white iPhone 4 for now, because sending documents back to the office was taking to long on the Atrix.
Again, I really like the Atrix phone but going to return it and pre-order the BlackBerry PlayBook. I know 2 wrongs don't make a right.
Guys mine runs fine with live wallpaper, stock 1.5.7.
I think a new rom for a system slowdown is a little extreme.
Try searching this forum for solutions before attempting a rom fix.
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I'm running a stock Bell one and no slow down with live wallpapers.
The only lag I ever see is the first few seconds when it loads up.
Is this doing it for all live wallpapers?
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I'm running a stock Bell one and no slow down with live wallpapers.
The only lag I ever see is the first few seconds when it loads up.
Is this doing it for all live wallpapers?
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With all live wallpapers:
- Phone takes about 4 seconds to respond to a wake up power button push.
- App drawer icons fly in animation is choppy.
- App vertical scrolling is choppy.
With some live wallpapers (e.g. Starlight):
- Choppy homescreen swiping.
When I go back to a non-Live wallpaper, everything's smooth and fast again. Mine is a Bell ATRIX so I don't have 1.5.7
Im in the same boat as you. As soon I run a live wallpaper the phone turns crap. Using the free launcher pro on gingerblur and version 1.57 so deodexed and no bloatware doesn't help. Living in aus makes this difficult to return too
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I think there is something wrong with starlight due to our screen's resolution.
Other live wall paper seen to work fine on my phone but starlight lags the home screen swiping.
I've noticed that with stralight, when you swipe to the next screen, the background swipes past the next screen's background just a little bit and jumps back (no matter how slowly or fast you swipe to the next screen)
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I think there is something wrong with starlight due to our screen's resolution.
Other live wall paper seen to work fine on my phone but starlight lags the home screen swiping.
I've noticed that with stralight, when you swipe to the next screen, the background swipes past the next screen's background just a little bit and jumps back (no matter how slowly or fast you swipe to the next screen)
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True. That only happens with Starlight. But what about the others? The Apps drawer flies in with a very choppy animation, and the same can be said about the vertical scrolling.
When using the nexus S wallpaper that comes with gingerblur, the lag is not as bad as when using paper forest but its still annoying and simply appalling for the worlds most powerful smart phone
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When using the nexus S wallpaper that comes with gingerblur, the lag is not as bad as when using paper forest but its still annoying and simply appalling for the worlds most powerful smart phone
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Good, I'm starting to think this isn't something unique to my Atrix -that it's not defective.
I just cannot believe a Tegra 2 phone would STRUGGLE so badly with live wallpapers. Unbelievable. I will sell this POS once the new HTC EVO 3D arrives (provided it has good battery life).
All i know is.. I'm running anipet aquarium with a whole ****load of fish with them swimming at various speeds and it runs perfect and causes no lag at all. Maybe it is a starlight problem cause I'm on gladiatrix with all possible mods(webtop,hdmi,hulu,multitouch keyboard etc.) and I have no problems on launcherpro or stock motoblur. You bell customers probably need an update. Theres a difference between 4.1.26 and 4.1.57 for those of us on att. Bell just gotta get there asses in gear!
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All i know is.. I'm running anipet aquarium with a whole ****load of fish with them swimming at various speeds and it runs perfect and causes no lag at all. Maybe it is a starlight problem cause I'm on gladiatrix with all possible mods(webtop,hdmi,hulu,multitouch keyboard etc.) and I have no problems on launcherpro or stock motoblur. You bell customers probably need an update. Theres a difference between 4.1.26 and 4.1.57 for those of us on att. Bell just gotta get there asses in gear!
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I just tried out anipet aquarium. Made the homescreen swiping noticeably less smooth, and of course hitting the app drawer button brought a choppy fly in animation.
So are you saying it was laggy on 4.1.26 with live wallpapers and became smooth after the update? Coz DarkRyoushii has the update and is reporting an eually poor performance.
all wallpapers made by the same guy, starlight, nightfall, eastern glow makes the phone laggy because i think they dont support high res screens...
Other ones like jumpgate, or twisted colors, my phone is super smooth
My Atrix runs nice and smoothly for the most part. Apps are smooth as butter. My only issue is lag whenever I return to the homescreen. If I wake up the device after a while, or I return to the homescreen after using an app for a while, and I try to swipe to another homescreen, there's always a 1 second delay. It's not the biggest deal in the world, but it gets annoying seeing it all the time. The same thing happens with any launcher I try to use. Live wallpapers don't really make it lag more. I do use lots of Widgets, so maybe that's causing it. I don't know. Does anyone else have any insight on this?
I have the same issue. Using Lpro. I thought if I put into memory it won't happen but it doesn't help. A bit irritating.
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yes, im experiencing this too, though I do not have a solution. Is what you're experiencing like right when you unlock the phone, and you try and swipe between homescreens, it's kind of like slow motion until like 2 seconds later, then it becomes full speed and buttery smooth?
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yes, im experiencing this too, though I do not have a solution. Is what you're experiencing like right when you unlock the phone, and you try and swipe between homescreens, it's kind of like slow motion until like 2 seconds later, then it becomes full speed and buttery smooth?
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Exactly. Does it happen to you when you exit an app as well?
I wonder whether this is a result of the way Tegra 2 handles processes. Maybe it slows down ADW (or other launcher) when not in use, but doesn't speed up quickly enough.
Hopefully future Gingerbread updates help fix this.
So...
I guess this is just an unfortunate side effect of Froyo not being optimized for dual-core processors? That sucks, especially considering that I haven't seen this happening with any other Android phone, dual-core or not.
I had a homescreen lag on my N1 with stock froyo, on my Nexus S with gingerbread. My MT4g hat no lag with froyo and sense. Attic has a lag occasionally. Ithink it is bad programming in android or the graphic overlay.
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Hmm. That makes me think the upcoming Gingerbread update won't fix this.
I wonder whether there's anything I can freeze. I've already frozen the stock launcher (I use ADW) but it hasn't helped.
MdX MaxX said:
Hmm. That makes me think the upcoming Gingerbread update won't fix this.
I wonder whether there's anything I can freeze. I've already frozen the stock launcher (I use ADW) but it hasn't helped.
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I can't speak for newer gingerbread versions. I returned my Nexus S after 3 weeks and it shipped with the original, too early released version of gingerbread that was horrible buggy. Hopefully, they fixed that in later versions. Let's see what version we get for the Atrix.
Is it just a select few people having this issue? As I browse the forums, most people say that the Atrix is perfect and has no lag.
Am I going to have to remove widgets to get rid of this homescreen stutter?
Grrr. This issue is like a grape juice stain on your white carpet. It's little, but it's there.
I'll stop bumping this, I guess not enough people are having this problem.
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Is it just a select few people having this issue? As I browse the forums, most people say that the Atrix is perfect and has no lag.
Am I going to have to remove widgets to get rid of this homescreen stutter?
Grrr. This issue is like a grape juice stain on your white carpet. It's little, but it's there.
I'll stop bumping this, I guess not enough people are having this problem.
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I have a notification bar lag that only a few people have. If I get an email and my phone is locked and I unlock it and try to swipe the notification bar down I need always 2 attempts to be successful...I have absolutely no idea what triggers this...
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Will someone develop a Sense-like ROM, once development gets underway for the Photon? I really liked Sense, but did not like the 3vo's sound/speaker quality. I would love a sense ROM on the Photon.
Is it possible to strip the sense interface from 3vo and stick it on the Photon? Will this only be possible if bootloader is cracked or would it be possible with root only?
Sorry if the question is redundant or too simplistic for this forum.
Thanks.
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noob question...
Will someone develop a Sense-like ROM, once development gets underway for the Photon? I really liked Sense, but did not like the 3vo's sound/speaker quality. I would love a sense ROM on the Photon.
Is it possible to strip the sense interface from 3vo and stick it on the Photon? Will this only be possible if bootloader is cracked or would it be possible with root only?
Sorry if the question is redundant or too simplistic for this forum.
Thanks.
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it can be done but why? it's like a beautiful woman with a snaggletooth she's perfect till she smiles and ruins everything...
I honestly don't understand why everyone raves about sense. Yeah, its pretty, but never really added any functionality for me. I had an evo, and had a Evo Shift and the first chance I had to dump sense, I did.
I loved touchwiz on my epic, because it was basically just stock, tweaked a little.
To me HTC Sense is bloated and unnecessary. When you can't do certain things in sense that you can in stock android, it seems pointless.
Also, I don't know why everyone hates on blur. I know the old blur sucked, but whatever Ninja or Ghost blur the photon is running I absolutely LOVE.
@randomrobbi - "When you can't do certain things in sense that you can in stock android, it seems pointless"...maybe I missed something...what can't you do with sense that you can with stock?
The thing I miss most about sense is the widgets, especially the email one. It would show unread push email from several accounts including an exchange account and gmail. I liked that it would show the unread count immediately like photon does for voicemail.
I also liked the unlock screen where you could drag the slider circle to one of 4 apps that you want to use immediately.
And, yes, it was pretty. Couldn't a sense ROM have the bloatware stripped from it so that wouldn't be an issue?
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@randomrobbi - "When you can't do certain things in sense that you can in stock android, it seems pointless"...maybe I missed something...what can't you do with sense that you can with stock?
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I guess I misspoke about that. It's just harder to carry out some actions in sense, as compared to stock android. Like hitting dialer, and being able to easily access your starred contacts. I just felt like Sense added alot of extra steps to simple actions. I guess i'm just biased, but the first android I owned was an HTC Hero, which I never rooted or put a rom on. I didnt keep it long and went back to my blackberry. I've just always been more a fan of AOSP Android.
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I also liked the unlock screen where you could drag the slider circle to one of 4 apps that you want to use immediately.
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kimmie...try out THIS lockscreen. Same as the Sense one Agile Lock Screen
Also...I miss the Sense 3.0 Notification bar. Effin amazing. Has tons of toggles, quick access to apps, etc. Was so convenient & slick.
I'm sure I'm also in the minority but I happen to really like Sense, both visually and from an ease of use standpoint when setting up new devices. That said, I often turn a lot of those things off, or flip back and forth between various launchers but I still miss it sometimes. DEFINITELY agree about the Notifications, those are just the way I'd like them to be.
I'd love to see an installable Sense but it seems pretty deeply entangled in the rest of the system, just like Blur, so I dont know how well it'd work as a standalone.
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I'm sure I'm also in the minority but I happen to really like Sense, both visually and from an ease of use standpoint when setting up new devices. That said, I often turn a lot of those things off, or flip back and forth between various launchers but I still miss it sometimes. DEFINITELY agree about the Notifications, those are just the way I'd like them to be.
I'd love to see an installable Sense but it seems pretty deeply entangled in the rest of the system, just like Blur, so I dont know how well it'd work as a standalone.
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Im coming out of the closet too. I love the build and accessories of the Photon but im so damn used to Sense. Its like driving home from work, sure there are many ways but after awhile you find and get used to the fastest and easiest way home. Vogue, TP, TP2, Evo 4G and Evo 3D...currently Photon. Some days I forget how to get home.
Oh how about a touchwiz 4.0 like rom I really do miss my quick panel in the notification bar it was really handy :/
With the HTC Sense api recently available, i am sure that someone will start creating widgets and icons etc for other non-sense devices.
hmmm that didn't sound right, oh well, hope you guys know what I mean. lol
TS out
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Im coming out of the closet too. I love the build and accessories of the Photon but im so damn used to Sense. Its like driving home from work, sure there are many ways but after awhile you find and get used to the fastest and easiest way home. Vogue, TP, TP2, Evo 4G and Evo 3D...currently Photon. Some days I forget how to get home.
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Ifeel the same, I love the Motorola Photon... better speaker, better signal strength, call quality is better also... It just seems to be a little stronger over all.... But I miss the Sense 3.0. Sense is fluid with no lag.
The Motorola Blur has a slight delay when switching back and forth between home screens. I used to miss the graphical HTC widgets, but i have beautiful widgets for that so i am not realy missing anything. I just miss the speed and fluidness of Sense technology.
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Ifeel the same, I love the Motorola Photon... better speaker, better signal strength, call quality is better also... It just seems to be a little stronger over all.... But I miss the Sense 3.0. Sense is fluid with no lag.
The Motorola Blur has a slight delay when switching back and forth between home screens. I used to miss the graphical HTC widgets, but i have beautiful widgets for that so i am not realy missing anything. I just miss the speed and fluidness of Sense technology.
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The Delay can be removed with the super charger script, my buddy's Photon is now just about as smooth/quick as my Syngery Evo
The delay can be removed by adding launcher pro, turning off screen animations and putting all speed at 10... fastest phone out there then, faster and smoother than evo 3d.. i know because ive owned both lol
Edit: i know a lot of people prefer adw or GO but i dig LauncherPro.. also dont care about the updates as much because cool thing about blur is that you can use the widgets still once the overlay is installed, unlike sense.
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The delay can be removed by adding launcher pro, turning off screen animations and putting all speed at 10... fastest phone out there then, faster and smoother than evo 3d.. i know because ive owned both lol
Edit: i know a lot of people prefer adw or GO but i dig LauncherPro.. also dont care about the updates as much because cool thing about blur is that you can use the widgets still once the overlay is installed, unlike sense.
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What the hell are you doing back here? According to your thread in the 3d forums, this phone is a piece of ****. However your info about launcher pro and the settings is correct.
I don't understand the hate for the M.A.P. launcher I actually dig it
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Try Launcher Pro as the launcher, register it for the senselike social widget, and get Weather & Toggle Widgets and tbe weather widget forecast addon for your flip clock. This makes for a NICE senselike alternative.
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Oh how about a touchwiz 4.0 like rom I really do miss my quick panel in the notification bar it was really handy :/
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I think any phone with ClockworkMod Recovery can flash TW 4.0. It said that on the homepage awhile ago. Go to the Galaxy S i9000 forums in the Themes and Apps section and one of them is flashable I think and works on any device.
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I think any phone with ClockworkMod Recovery can flash TW 4.0. It said that on the homepage awhile ago. Go to the Galaxy S i9000 forums in the Themes and Apps section and one of them is flashable I think and works on any device.
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Dude remember how unstable it was on our EPICS? I wonder if it has gotten any better though
randomrobbi said:
I honestly don't understand why everyone raves about sense. Yeah, its pretty, but never really added any functionality for me. I had an evo, and had a Evo Shift and the first chance I had to dump sense, I did.
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I used to be a sense guy too.. I mean.. compared to stock android... it blows it out of the water... After getting the Evo I got my wife a Samsung Moment... I upgraded it to 2.2 but I never saw stock android before... I thought it was still 1.5 or something because I couldn't believe stock android looked that bad...
Stock android is ugly as sin.. and the widgets are less than ****.
But then I found Launcher Pro and its "almost-like-sense" widgets for calendar and facebook and I've never looked back. I loved Evo Deck on my Evo and Evo Shift Deck on my wifes phone because it is CM7 with ADW Craplauncher removed and LP added... a much better choice I must say.
LP's widgets are the only thing close to Sense's widgets so until another launcher starts pushing good widgets... I'll never leave.
So to answer the OP... Launcher Pro is the only Sense-like option you have... combined with Fancy Widgets for the flip clock (its the only one that does auto-update of weather based on GPS.)
Me and some other guys kinda highjacked another thread so I decided to open a new one here for people to share their opinions, thought and general arguments and if there are easy solutions to the matters that the DNA makes you sad, I did look through the first 10 pages of this section and didn't find anything similar so people, bash away, and bear in mind that what you say will shape my (and others) opinion and whether I should or shouldn't buy this damn amazing piece of equipment
This seems like a good idea, and I can definitely see this helping a lot of people. I'm extremely happy with my DNA thus far; stellar battery life and performance, and the build quality is superb (especially the literal edge-to-edge glass that feels like it flows off the front of the screen). It's also quite resilient - I had it sitting in the passenger seat of my car, got into a pretty serious accident, and the phone doesn't have a single scratch on it. Obviously I got very lucky, but yeah..
On another note, my only gripe is that I can't seem to delete 3 of the stock bookmarks (Google, VZW Home Page, and Your Guide Mobile). I've tried clearing the app data, but that didn't help. I'm not rooted, but I'd think there should be some sort of workaround.. any tips would be appreciated
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On another note, my only gripe is that I can't seem to delete 3 of the stock bookmarks (Google, VZW Home Page, and Your Guide Mobile). I've tried clearing the app data, but that didn't help. I'm not rooted, but I'd think there should be some sort of workaround.. any tips would be appreciated
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I don't think that without root you'll be able to delete them, not sure though and I'm not suggesting you should root cause apart from the warranty being void there's always a risk of bricking, small but is there... I guess for now you gotta live with it.
One thing that annoyed me about the DNA is that they chose to put Back, Menu, and Multitasking as the buttons. So you still have to have the 3-dot menu on screen. Luckily, if you root the device, you can change the multitasking button to Settings (which is exactly what I wanted), so I'm thrilled to have that. The bloatware remover is great as well.
If you aren't afraid to root it, there is awesome stuff out there for it. I won't be using a rom without Sense because I actually like Sense a lot. The lock screen and camera software are the best that I've seen.
The USB flap is annoying, but I will definitely be getting a wireless charger.
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I don't think that without root you'll be able to delete them, not sure though and I'm not suggesting you should root cause apart from the warranty being void there's always a risk of bricking, small but is there... I guess for now you gotta live with it.
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Ah, alright. I'm planning on rooting it eventually.. at some point.. but as you said, there's always that risk lol. Plus, beyond that small issue with the 3 bookmarks, everything else about the phone is perfect even without root, so I can live with it Thanks for your input though!
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This seems like a good idea, and I can definitely see this helping a lot of people. I'm extremely happy with my DNA thus far; stellar battery life and performance, and the build quality is superb (especially the literal edge-to-edge glass that feels like it flows off the front of the screen). It's also quite resilient - I had it sitting in the passenger seat of my car, got into a pretty serious accident, and the phone doesn't have a single scratch on it. Obviously I got very lucky, but yeah..
On another note, my only gripe is that I can't seem to delete 3 of the stock bookmarks (Google, VZW Home Page, and Your Guide Mobile). I've tried clearing the app data, but that didn't help. I'm not rooted, but I'd think there should be some sort of workaround.. any tips would be appreciated
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I don't know if you can do it with the apps you mentioned, but you can disable a lot of apps through settings without root.
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I don't know if you can do it with the apps you mentioned, but you can disable a lot of apps through settings without root.
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Yeah, I've disabled a good amount of apps through settings, but I was talking about the preset bookmarks that show up in my browser and in my bookmark widget.. it let me delete the other 7 or so, but these 3 refuse to be deleted
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One thing that annoyed me about the DNA is that they chose to put Back, Menu, and Multitasking as the buttons. So you still have to have the 3-dot menu on screen.
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on the one X you could change it through settings where you choose what the multitasking button does, if I remember correct when you put the button to show the settings menu in single touch and multitask on long press it dissappears, not sure if it works on the dna but give it a try and report back
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Yeah, I've disabled a good amount of apps through settings, but I was talking about the preset bookmarks that show up in my browser and in my bookmark widget.. it let me delete the other 7 or so, but these 3 refuse to be deleted
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I see what you mean. I just tried it myself and couldn't delete those 3 bookmarks either. Guess root is needed to delete them. Unfortunately, currently you cannot write to the system while booted in android on the DNA. You would have to do it through recovery somehow.
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Yeah, I've disabled a good amount of apps through settings, but I was talking about the preset bookmarks that show up in my browser and in my bookmark widget.. it let me delete the other 7 or so, but these 3 refuse to be deleted
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Why not try opera or chrome for browser as a default? I personally prefer opera mobile but try a few first, like maxton and skyfire
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Why not try opera or chrome for browser as a default? I personally prefer opera mobile but try a few first, like maxton and skyfire
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That's a good idea too. I almost never use the stock browser anyway. Boat browser has been pretty good to me as well although any of these would work. What I like about 3rd party browsers probably the most (aside from features) is the fact that I can exit the browser. With the stock one it will just keep running even if you back out of it.
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That's a good idea too. I almost never use the stock browser anyway. Boat browser has been pretty good to me as well although any of these would work. What I like about 3rd party browsers probably the most (aside from features) is the fact that I can exit the browser. With the stock one it will just keep running even if you back out of it.
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true, whenever I flash a new rom and reinstall opera I always activate the exit button on options.
phones been surprisingly awsome on stock.
I rooted the phone so i could run wifi tether. No issues with disconnects and I can actually tether my phone and not have to plug it in for 6-8 hours.
Love the screen, not just how good it looks but the waterfall effect the glass has feels amazing to me. Overall, very pleased with my purchase.
the european version was just announced so I think I'm gonna be going for that cause it states a sd card slot in contrast to the dna,
all the other specs remain the same
so I guess I'll be attending another forum soon, hope you find help on this thread and pm me if I can help with anything
http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-butterfly/#specs
My biggest gripe (besides the 3 dot menu button) is the damn messaging app. Every single time I go into it, it 'refreshes.' So many times the app takes a few seconds to load and it shows everyone's phone numbers instead of the names. I just don't understand why.
I'm hesitant to switch to another messaging app because 1) I think they're ugly/love the look of the Sense app and 2) I love how I can see a new message on the Sense lock screen and swipe directly into it.
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My biggest gripe (besides the 3 dot menu button) is the damn messaging app. Every single time I go into it, it 'refreshes.' So many times the app takes a few seconds to load and it shows everyone's phone numbers instead of the names. I just don't understand why.
I'm hesitant to switch to another messaging app because 1) I think they're ugly/love the look of the Sense app and 2) I love how I can see a new message on the Sense lock screen and swipe directly into it.
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It sounds kinda weird, how many contacts and messages do you have? if it's not thousands I guess there might be something wrong
try another messaging app to see if it's persistant or just the sense messaging
I don't have that many contacts, and I definitely don't have that many messages. I limit it to 200 per thread (only a few people reach this), and I even go through and delete it down to like 10 threads that are the most important. Regardless, this shouldn't happen on a phone with 2GB of RAM. Frustrates me to no end.
I posted a thread about this in this section maybe a week or two ago, and a few users chimed in saying they were seeing similar behavior. I don't think it's just me.
Mine does the refresh on sms too. Its like 1 second though so not a big deal.
Had the phone for a week. Battery life has been excellent. This is the first time in 2 years I havent had to charge my phone at work at all. Consistently get well over 4 hours screen on time. Although I've noticed using non-sense launcher its not quite as good but still excellent.
The screen is amazing and even at 5 inches it fits comfortably in the hand. Even pushing this many pixels I have yet to notice anything id call lag.
The 3-dot menu can be annoying if you notice it. Hoping for an update somewhere to deal with that at some point. I've also had issues with Netflix not loading properly but I blame the app. Also, I've noticed when I change lockscreen style, like to productivity or something it doesn't work too smoothly. Not being able to change wallpaper on a screen longpress kinda baffles me as well.
The phone definitely has some quirks and some areas where HTC could have made the operation of things more efficient instead of adding unnecessary steps. But I would definitely recommend this phone to anyone it is really a pleasure to use.
Btw, being left handed, am I the only one that wishes the back button was on the right instead of the left?
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on the one X you could change it through settings where you choose what the multitasking button does, if I remember correct when you put the button to show the settings menu in single touch and multitask on long press it dissappears, not sure if it works on the dna but give it a try and report back
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Nah, for some reason, they took that out of the DNA. Can't change it in the stock options.
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Btw, being left handed, am I the only one that wishes the back button was on the right instead of the left?
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I'm right handed and wish it was on the right because my thumb isn't long enough to reach it on the left.
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