Is the Flyer plagued with the movie playback woes of the Tegra2 chipset that all the current flock of Android tablets seem to have?
Anyone played a 720/1080p MKV video on this tablet?
MKV 1080p videos play like ****, Vplayer, jerky and artifacting. Samsung Galaxy S2 plays much much better, like, perfect.
True the SGS2 does, but so does my old Vibrant. I am more concerned about the tablets and if I should be waiting for the HTC 10" tablet or get one available now. The video playback capability will seal the deal for me.
caysman said:
MKV 1080p videos play like ****, Vplayer, jerky and artifacting. Samsung Galaxy S2 plays much much better, like, perfect.
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first of all they have to put the ntfs compatibility to let us upload files over 4gbyte.
I can't imagine that using a capable processor like this one I can't play at lease 720p movies !
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I'm looking for advice on media players for the evo 3D - since I originally hoped it'd be a portable player to match the format compatibility of my HTPC. It looks like I was a little optimistic in that regard, primarily because I knew the chip was 1080P capable. My primary issue with blu-ray rips is that when using MoboPlayer and mVideoPlayer - I can usually get my 720P rips to play back video, but I lose the audio. I'm fairly certain that I'm using the unconverted blu-ray audio - and neither of these apps can handle the codec. Is there another app that can do this without having to convert?
I know how to convert the audio easily - but I was hoping for a drag and drop solution. I don't want to end up with large files for my HTPC and different ones for on-the-go use.
Besides that, 1080P videos would be hampered by Android's (or should I say FAT32's) inability to handle files above 4GB. I'd previously heard rumors that in the future Android would be able to able to access XFAT partitions and that might eliminate the file limitation - but I've heard nothing concrete. Anybody have any useful info on this topic?
I know that a certain amount of readers will ask why this is necessary in a portable device, but a lot of us look at these phones as a digital swiss army knife. To me, there's definitely the allure of potentially bringing just the phone and an HDMI cable to my girlfriend's house in order to share a bluray as opposed to bringing the bluray player, disc, cables, etc.
Well - the only partial solution I've found is the arcMedia media player. It supports a52 (AC3) audio, but unfortunately - the 720P video I threw at it played remarkably choppy. Totally unwatchable.
Doh - I guess I'm talking to myself. But in case someone else is reading this in hopes of a solution, I think I've figured out that MoboPlayer and one other media player I just found - can play the audio if I switch to software decoding. Unfortunately, if I do so - 720P video becomes unwatchable. HTC didn't give us surround sound codecs, which is disappointing.
The only possible solution or workaround would be if the video decoding could be handled separately from audio in one of these media players. But I'm not going to get my hopes up.
In the meantime, I guess I better get used to converting AC3 audio in my MKV's - and making sure none of my portable files are above 4 gigs.
Diceplayer!!!!!!!!!! Try it!!!!
DDiaz007 said:
Diceplayer!!!!!!!!!! Try it!!!!
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OK - I tried IMPlayer+ and Vitalplayer based on recommendations I found elsewhere and neither worked as I'd hoped. Diceplayer however, appears to have done the trick! It's a $5 app, but I'm going to try it for 3 days and test it out first. Thank you very much for the recommendation.
The dev who wrote that software claims the Galaxy S2 is capable of 1080P MKV playback with AC3 audio. I'm going to see if I can track down a similar sample under 4 gigs to test on the Evo 3D. As of now - 720P is working beautifully.
Now there's just two more things that I'm hoping will happen to make this the perfect mobile HD video player:
1) Android somehow allowing a format that accepts files above 4gigs.
2) Actually being able to output 1080P to an external screen via HDMI. I'm sure we'll be able to HDMI mirror the screen, but the file's resolution will be lost in that case. Hopefully Diceplayer or another app will enable HD out.
I'm not holding my breath for either, but I can hope.
Just a couple thoughts. I encode all my videos to .mp4, at their native resolution (1080p for bd, or eve res for dvds). Using a bitrate between 1500-2000 will get u under 2GB for an entire movie and maintain video quality to near original.
As much as I'd like 5.1 surround sound, that really only matters if u can output it via hdmi. In ur case I understand the desire bc u have other media players.
I agree, HTC/android should include support for 5.1 audio, and additionally I feel .Mkv support
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Thanks for the comments! I just figured I'd chime in because I tried a Conan the Barbarian Trailer that was a 1080P MKV with AC3 audio.
Unfortunately, it didn't play smooth even with Diceplayer. Every 3 seconds, there was a little stutter. Which was disappointing, but understandable. I wonder if the Galaxy S2 can really play it better?
Otherwise, the E3D might get to that capability by a little overclocking and/or improved software in the future.
P0ll0L0c0 said:
Thanks for the comments! I just figured I'd chime in because I tried a Conan the Barbarian Trailer that was a 1080P MKV with AC3 audio.
Unfortunately, it didn't play smooth even with Diceplayer. Every 3 seconds, there was a little stutter. Which was disappointing, but understandable. I wonder if the Galaxy S2 can really play it better?
Otherwise, the E3D might get to that capability by a little overclocking and/or improved software in the future.
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update your diceplayer 1.4.2
Try QQ Player..
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QQ player doesn't play the file well at all - it appears not to use any hardware acceleration.
Unfortunately - the Diceplayer Trial Update (1.4.2) doesn't appear to improve things.
Someone who'd overclocked his E3D to 1.5ghz tested this file and STILL found it lagging on Diceplayer. Which is very disappointing. If anyone's curious, this is the sample I'm talking about:
http://www.movie-list.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27232
I was just hoping to get 1080P AC3 MKV playback.
I was just told on another thread that this 1080P file may not play well - only because of the speed of my card. This user claims that his phone with a class 10 microsdhc plays the Conan clip without lag. Apparently my phone (with the stock class 4) must not be able to create enough of a buffer to make up for the memory card's speed. I've got a class 10 memory card arriving tomorrow - and I'll report back then.
This is potentially great news.
I'm not sure if the new memory card played a role - but the latest version of Diceplayer 1.4.4 plays that 1080P MKV with AC3 audio with NO lag on the Evo 3D. I'm pretty happy right now. The only thing I'm hoping for in the future is that somehow we can play files over 4gb so we can actually take advantage of the 1080P capability of this phone.
Hi there,
Please some one can help me how i can Play 720p and 1080p .MKV movies smoothly with my Gtab 10.1???
Because with a simple samsung galaxy S 1GHZ CPU is possible to play a 720p MKV movies smoothly no problem, but the Galaxy Tab have Dual Core 1GHZ TEGRA 2 with 1GB ram, and not have to possibility to play it, i don't see this normal
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- 720p: h.264 [email protected]
- 1080p: h.264 baseline
Best Player for 720p Video:
Dice Player
* Honeycomb tables(TF101,GT10.1,Iconia500,Xoom) : 720p [email protected] ( no weighted prediction )
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Ok thank you very much for your help, Dice Player Work great for the 720p
The tab chokes with 1080p smh.
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DoubleTwist works pretty decent with mkv's. 1080p though is a no go. Who needs it though on a ten inch screen?
Agree.. 1080p is overkill for 10" screen .. you wont notice any different compare to 720p .. plus its such a waste storage
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Agree.. 1080p is overkill for 10" screen .. you wont notice any different compare to 720p .. plus its such a waste storage
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Yep. I am all new to this but I noticed 1080p is overkill as well. I am running at 720p or BDrip x264 in 2gb to 4gb and detail is perfect. I converted most of my favorite movies to 720p and running with latest dice player. No issues whatsoever.
Cool,thank you.i will also try the dice Player when i am at home.
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To anyone saying 1080p is a waste... of course it is on this device.
But people store their videos generally with 1 copy in the best quality. So I need to be able to watch my 1080p videos, even though it's overkill, because I'm not going to re-encode another 720p copy and store that somewhere. I'm going to store one 1080p copy.
What puzzle me is that I can play 1080p mkv using the built-in player on my SGS II without any problem.
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gjoe77 said:
What puzzle me is that I can play 1080p mkv using the built-in player on my SGS II without any problem.
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in short, Tegra 2 is a disappointment.
Tegra2 does dissappoint . Im ready to upgrade to kal-el, like now.
Just curious, what programs are people using to convert/make/etc 720p movies?
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What puzzle me is that I can play 1080p mkv using the built-in player on my SGS II without any problem.
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MKV is container not codec. MKV can hold virtually anything...
Some 1080p can be played, some NOT, it depends what inside is.
Look at #2 post
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Just curious, what programs are people using to convert/make/etc 720p movies?
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I use handbrake. Depending on the source, but for the most part, I make sure the width is 1280px. I set the quality to 21, baseline profile, and then convert. My friends say the videos I've converted look great.
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I use handbrake. Depending on the source, but for the most part, I make sure the width is 1280px. I set the quality to 21, baseline profile, and then convert. My friends say the videos I've converted look great.
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Handbrake is the shizzle.
so, is video the only reason you bought a tablet? I don't watch movies on little screens when I have an HDTV at home. I typically have a drink in one hand so holding my tab in the other would get old. Tab runs great for everything except 720 and 1080 movies apparently. If you want to watch movies on the go, by a portable blu-ray player, not a tab. Tegra 2 runs great! Tab runs great on task's roms BTW!
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Handbrake is the shizzle.
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Yeah, handbreak is the best converter even if you use mac!
Been using MX Video Player with the codec pack for Tegra2. Switch it to the SW decoder, and it's not perfect but pretty good.
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so, is video the only reason you bought a tablet? I don't watch movies on little screens when I have an HDTV at home. I typically have a drink in one hand so holding my tab in the other would get old. Tab runs great for everything except 720 and 1080 movies apparently. If you want to watch movies on the go, by a portable blu-ray player, not a tab. Tegra 2 runs great! Tab runs great on task's roms BTW!
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Its not really fair to say "buy a portable blu ray player". Samsungs site says it can play 1080p, which in some cases it can and cant. Most of the time it cant.
http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxytab/10.1/spec.html
I got the tablet today and assumed it would play mkv files like my epic touch but I see it does not. What is a good free encoder people are using and what are the best settings for decent video. I got this for the video so this is a bit disappointing. Are there any tablets that play mkv without encoding?
I am trying to decide between the International Note or the Att note (both being equal in price). My biggest concern is the video playback in browser (HD 1080p flash video) and 720/1080p mkv videos (using stock or 3rd party players). I found that there are some reports of choppiness with the ATT note in the "Att note vs International Note review" thread. How true is this? And is it still true after overclocking?
LTE is not very impt, but definitely a plus since my area is LTE ready. Biggest thing is video playback and web browsing experience(especially in flash heavy websites). I actually find my Tegra 3 Asus Prime to be less smooth than my current galaxy s2 smartphone (can be a resolution thing..).
I had the HP Touchpad before with the same snapdragon processor as the att note and it was pretty terrible at playing the type of files I wanted smoothly (ESPECIALLY IN BROSWER). That was using Webos, so it can be a different story here.
720p mkv play perfectly - no re-encoding required - but you are apparently still constrained by the 4GB limit, so full length movies are not possible in many cases.
TV shows average about 1.2 gig so its most useful for those.
If we ever get ICS, I assume the 4gb limit will no longer apply, only you will have to transfer files via wifi or use a card reader and transfer directly to the SD card - the retarded samsung/MS USB file transfer protocols still fail at 4gb even if the device can store larger files.
I have this problem with my galaxy tab 10.1 I can play re-encoded mp4 much larger than 4gb but they have to be transferred by wifi. I assume the same problem will exist with the note under ICS.
Edit: Apparently NTFS formatting of the SD card has been attempted, don't know if it is an effective solution to 4gb limit, haven't tried it myself: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/galaxy-note-can-now-format-sd-card-to-ntfs-file-system/
Thanks, what about 1080p flash in browser? My Galaxy s2 can do this on youtube without a problem (and on engadget), but I'm wondering if it's possible with the galaxy note att. I am sure the international version will fair fine.
Yes, works with stock browser.
Tried Dark Knight 1080p trailer - plays fine.
NVIDA Pure Video 1080p test - plays fine.
Sharp Aquous Full HD 1080p test - plays fine.
1080p 30 fps 17Mbps HD Test Footage by DizzyDougTV - Plays fine
All were tested using LTE not wifi
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My biggest concern is the video playback in browser (HD 1080p flash video) and 720/1080p mkv videos (using stock or 3rd party players).
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Since the Note's screen is 800x1200, and one typically watches videos on the phone "sideways", there's no real benefit of watching video above 720p; the phone can only go up to 800p "sideways". Not only that, but because the screen is so small you likely won't be able to tell the difference in videos at resolutions higher than DVD-quality (i.e. 480p) anyway.
As for poor playback performance, I've watched a couple of YouTube videos in HQ and I find that there is the odd minor stutter here and there, but nothing to serious. I'm not sure how much of that is the result of network latency, though.
I've played DVD-quality videos (480p) -- copied onto the device memory; not streamed online -- with absolutely no issues whatsoever.
I've also played 720p and 1080p videos which were copied directly on to the device. There is occasionally a frame dropped here and there (most people wouldn't notice, but I'm pretty sensitive to that after years of messing around with video on computers) but I would say they play perfectly fine, also.
From my understanding, the newer I717 has more CPU horsepower and a GPU that is a little more than twice as fast. I would imagine this would make it better at playing videos than the older N7000 (i.e. international version).
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Since the Note's screen is 800x1200, and one typically watches videos on the phone "sideways", there's no real benefit of watching video above 720p; the phone can only go up to 800p "sideways". Not only that, but because the screen is so small you likely won't be able to tell the difference in videos at resolutions higher than DVD-quality (i.e. 480p) anyway.
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True, but he might want to output the video to a higher resolution display - I assume this thing has some sort of HDMI adapter.
Just my opinion, but 720p looks sharper than DVD quality to me even on a 5.3 inch display, though, granted, the difference is small.
Tried several MKV movies in 1080p (had to chop them up into smaller MKV size)..
Smooth as butter with Dice Player
I should also mention that you would want a player that will leverage Hardware Decoding..
Tried turning this feature off in Dice Player for 1080p playback, and sure enough, it was choppy.
Hi , for a long time i have had serious quality issues with movie playback on my nook tablet.
I tried a lot of different media player apps to play my downloaded movies and all of them pretty much sucked.
The Issue was these apps i tried used a software video decoder. I finally found a media player that uses the native hardware decoder in the tablet and now my video is smooth beautiful. I found the mx player app and at first it had the same issues as the other apps I have used, but I found a setting to use the hardware decoder and bingo I had great video. I am posting this because I struggled a long time to get video to play nice on my nook and thought the info might help other folks.
If you have been around this device for 2 years like I have you would have learned this a long time ago LOL
To bad the tablet can not handle streaming my 10+gb 1080p files over dlna from my PC. The Nook Tablet can barely handle high profile 720p let alone any 1080p. I will hopefully be upgrading tablets by the end of the year to something that can.
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If you have been around this device for 2 years like I have you would have learned this a long time ago LOL
To bad the tablet can not handle streaming my 10+gb 1080p files over dlna from my PC. The Nook Tablet can barely handle high profile 720p let alone any 1080p. I will hopefully be upgrading tablets by the end of the year to something that can.
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i have the nook tablet and an nook hd+ (cm10.1 on the tablet 10.2 on the hd+)
i stream hd files- 720p tv stuff and 1080p movies i ripped and have nary an issue with the hd+ decoder in mxvideo.
i have had problems with improperly encoded videos, but that is it.