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Till last week I used to have an average of 400-450mb RAM free on the phone. Now I have a max of 250-260mb free. All that I can remember doing different to the phone is installing a few games and other apps, which of course are not used 24/7.
I'm using Advanced Task Killer (free version) and I have set it on "Crazy" app killing every 30 mins. Still I'm stuck with around 200mb. I can feel the lag when scrolling through the homepages.
What did I do and more importantly what can I do?
did you try rebooting the phone..heheh
if you have CF-root .. boot into cwm..clear cache..clear dalvik cache and reboot..
You shouldn't have lag on the homescreen regardless of whether you have 200mb or 400mb of RAM left..
Are you using many widgets or a live wallpaper (or apps like 3g watchdog or anything that keeps a presence in the notification bar like SetCPU?), sounds like you have a memory hog somewhere
And forget using a task killer.. the apps will just start up again anyway which will waste more RAM, find AutoStarts from the market and stop useless junk starting up
Thanks guys for the quick response. I actually restarted for some other reason and found that the RAM was back upto 590-595mb, but thats probably just coz of system files not starting yet. Right now, say 30 min after restart its around 475mb.
I'm running the stock KE7 ROM, so I'll try clearing the cache in that and see what happens.
There is no point in having "free" ram on android. Uninstall ATK and just use your phone. The constant restarting of killed applications does more harm than good and might even cause your lag.
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I suspect there is a memory leak somewhere in the Sense UI or or in Android. When I boot my phone and kill all the apps I don't want running, I see 96MB of free ram. But after a day, with the same apps running, I am down to 46MB. This has the result (or so I assume) of making my phone feel more sluggish even though I'm running the same apps. Rebooting fixes all the sluggishness, and the Hero flies. Is anyone seeing the same thing?
I've been using it since launch and haven't had much lag.
You can always try a hard reset if its that bad.
Test it while using regular home and kill sense UI, see if there's a difference.
Well, I only get a lag from time to time. It's just that I noticed this increase in memory usage for no particular reason. I'll try to track down the offending apps if I can. I might try a hard reset though. Can't hurt.
I notice that the browser and my exchange "mail" process freeing up the most memory when I use Advanced Task Killer to "Auto-End" all non-excluded apps every hour.
Once, the mail app was taking up 30mb of RAM. It's not uncommon for the browser to take up 20 or more either. After a while, I also see what you mean, in that when I first start my phone with the same 6-9 system processes I have anywhere from 90-100MB free, and after a while when killing them, I can only get to 75-80 free.
Since I had the Mogul a while back, I tend to watch RAM closely since that phone only had a measly 20 free after boot.
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I'm seeing the same thing as well. I use TaskPanel X to track memory usage and apps. Likewise the memory seems to slowly decline over time. Additionally even if I kill all the non-critical apps so it is like it was when it booted, I'm still about 30-40MB less than after a fresh boot.
Hello all I have a rooted Aria with FR008.
Had it running smoothly for about a week until the last couple days.
Had a little over 100MB of space left on the phone, then legit 45 mins later( the phone standing idle) I randomly got the "Low On Space" message at the same time Android system usage went up to 80% + for about an hour or so and drained the battery to below 10% then the system usage went down to about 20%.
Any ideas on what causes this? It happened two days ago and I just started from scratch, and then it happened again today...getting kind of frustrating wiping the phone every other day.
I've used all the cache cleaners, task killers, and moved everything to the SD than can be.
I just find it strange that I saw that the phone had 133 MB left of space...legit hit the power button, then turned it on 45 mins later to find that warning...and having less then 8MB left on the phone.
Are there any programs that update automatically that dont go to the SD card?
Any help is appreciated...thank you!
Which programs do you have installed and do they run in the background?
Gmail, Dropbox, ebay, twitter, facebook, barcode, astro, apps2sd, wifi analyzer...plus the task killers and cache cleaners....
Had them installed for a few days running fine, and then like I said, in a matter of 45 mins, before I knew it, the go from 100+ MB to 9 MB internal storage.
This happened today, and the only program new I installed today was the Wifi Analyzer
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dmoneypros said:
Gmail, Dropbox, ebay, twitter, facebook, barcode, astro, apps2sd, wifi analyzer...plus the task killers and cache cleaners....
Had them installed for a few days running fine, and then like I said, in a matter of 45 mins, before I knew it, the go from 100+ MB to 9 MB internal storage.
This happened today, and the only program new I installed today was the Wifi Analyzer
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Which task killer are you using? Is the cache cleaner something that runs automatically, too? What purpose does the Wifi Analyzer do and does it do any logging?
Using the Advanced Task Killer...I tried setting the cache cleaner both to manual and auto clean...no difference. The Wifi Analyzer doesnt do any logging, just detects the wifi signal stregnth. Either way this is the second time its happened, and the first time I didnt have the wifi analyzer.
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dmoneypros said:
Using the Advanced Task Killer...I tried setting the cache cleaner both to manual and auto clean...no difference. The Wifi Analyzer doesnt do any logging, just detects the wifi signal stregnth. Either way this is the second time its happened, and the first time I didnt have the wifi analyzer.
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Is this your first Android phone? Why are you running Advanced Task Killer? What was your reasoning for deciding you needed to run it? With the FR008 ROM and Froyo 2.2 using a task killer actually has a negative impact on the Aria. Android does a great job at managing the memory just fine. So try removing Advanced Task Killer and the cache cleaner and see if that solves your issue.
Ive uninstalled both of what you asked, restarted the phone a couple times and still have the message on the notification bar at the top
"Low on space"
"Phone storage space is getting low"
dmoneypros said:
Ive uninstalled both of what you asked, restarted the phone a couple times and still have the message on the notification bar at the top
"Low on space"
"Phone storage space is getting low"
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What else did you do to clean up the phone storage space? How much storage was available when you started?
Try going into clockwork and clearing cache. Also clear cache on market and browser.
Thanks for all the suggestions...I just ended up starting fresh again...tried all your suggestions and still had the low storage space warning...I'll just have to take it day by day and hope it doesnt happen for the third time!
I had the same problem until I enabled a2sd. You might want to check if it is enabled; it was not on my FR008 - i think you have to do it after the fact.
You can change the text message limit to automatically delete a thread after a certain amount is reached. You can also use Titanium Backup to uninstall stock apps that you don't use, or even freeze apps that you don't want running all the time.
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when you are starting fresh all of these times, are you doing a complete wipe?
i ran into an issue with low phone storage while running cm6 from all of my back and forth flashings. when i decided to start using cm7 nightlies, i wiped data/cache, formatted system partition, and upon installing the rom had plenty of space and haven't had any issues.
i'd try a complete and utter wipe of all your phones data/cache.
Little late, but its better to have this info here for others, found the issue...It was the Twitter application. It was syncing the contacts and with my 10K plus followers, it was chewing up my space
Hey...not sure if this has been answered before or not but im trying to figure out battery draining issues and one of things ive always used is ram optimizers...I have Android Booster and Android Assisant ....and then i also use the built in task manager to clear memory...shouldbi be using these apps or are they draining the battery by running in the background? They seem to clean up a nice amount of memory....and keep my phone running fast....just dont know much about them...
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I do not think that by cleaning your RAM, you can reduce power consumption by RAM.
Actually, you do increase it. Android itself closes unnecessary applications when needed to clear memory. But, when you clean memory, either by task manager, or some custom tools, you are basically forcing applications to close and restart unnecessarily. I would say, it is additional load on CPU, and thus on battery.
For most applications, exactly startup and finish times are most expensive in terms of CPU load and battery. And most well-designed applications will not drain your battery when paused.
Reminds me of RAM cleaner programs for Windows machines, that would simply trigger excessive page faults.
while i agree with most of what you posted, there are 2 major flaws in your logic:
1. you talk about closing apps that restart on their own, but not many apps actually do that. sure, widgets, services, your launcher, communication apps and syncing apps need to run in the background, but certainly there are other apps eating away the battery, that need to be fully closed, when not needed. kies air or wifi file explorer come to mind. some of those apps don't fully close through the back button and must be killed from a task manager to save battery.
2. you say apps are paused. that is not necessarily true. many apps are capable of fully running in the background, after all, we are talking android and not iOS. we have full multitasking and apps are not generally suspended. say, you want to play a game for the first time and it needs to download more data. you can do whatever you want with your phone, open a dozen other apps, browse and listen to music, that download will continue in the background. this might fill up the ram over time, if you never close an app or apps do not allow direct closing.
there is a reason why samsung supplied the phone with a built-in task manager.
some apps are not well made and don't quit properly and need to be killed that way and killing off unnecessary apps (that won't restart) makes sense.
and let's not forget apps that get stuck but don't force close. they need to be killed as well. what else are you gonna do? restart the phone? certainly that wastes way more power than a restart of a few services.
every time you have a look at the samsung task manager or the "running" panel of "manage applications" and you use 500 something MB of ram and kill all apps, it will go down to something like 200 something, then the services restart and you are back up to maybe close to 300 (all numbers vary on your rom and apps). given that situation permanently saving 40% of ram is certainly a good reason to kill apps before you put the phone in your pocket.
I guess, then, it is best practice to kill all apps from task manager, a few times a day, especially after using several different applications and closing them. Applications that are needed will be restarted automatically.
I am not sure about running so called "RAM optimizers" constantly, though. When you are using your phone, it simply introduces more lags. Otherwise, it does nothing, if you have cleared RAM after heavy usage.
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I guess, then, it is best practice to kill all apps from task manager, a few times a day, especially after using several different applications and closing them. Applications that are needed will be restarted automatically.
I am not sure about running so called "RAM optimizers" constantly, though. When you are using your phone, it simply introduces more lags. Otherwise, it does nothing, if you have cleared RAM after heavy usage.
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killing itself is not necessary in the 1st part.
the more the memory android uses the better the apps behave, thats how android is desinged.
if you people still want to release some memory just use the samsung task manager ot clear memory or "fast reboot" from market.
Thx for the posts...i deleted the 2 android apps for now to see if theres a difference...i will trybusing just the built in task manager for a few days and see how that goes. But for example i mainly use my phone for words with friends...facebook...twitter and instagram....when i run the built in task manager it frees up mabye 200mb of ram....then i would run android booster which would clean up another 200mb and would close stuff like facebook...and tweetcaster and so on....the built in task manager doesnt seem to pick up on and close everything it should...which is why i downloaded the others...my phone has 800+ mb available and i usually find that ots using 500 of those 800 at all times...i wouldbfind myself constantly closing stuff with the optimizers...but like you said...they just open up in the background again anyway. Im rooted and have got rid of all the safe stuff to get rid of and the funny thing is i still dont see much of a difference in ram consumption...i think of ram as important cause it keeps things running smooth with no lag...not sure what to do i guess...ill try it like this without the optimizers and see how things go and download them again if i get bad lag...what i really need is a actual list of my phones internal software so i can get rid of the rest of the unneeded system files...ive found similar lists..but never a list of my actual phone...theres certain stuff running on my phone that isnt in the lists ive found so i left them with the worry that i may have to reinstall the rom if i delete the wrong thing...im also a android noob...only 2 months of using it so far so ive got tons more learning to do...thx for the opinions tho...keep em coming if you got em!
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You know, I really really really want to like HC on my View. I love the full pen support. I don't even mind the weird softbuttons and statusbar design that makes little sense.
But the DEAL KILLER for me is browsing. I mean, it is just nuts. I have a super fast wifi connection and I'm getting excellent signal but pages take FOREVER to load. I mean, like 10 seconds even for the most basic HTML page.
Why Android, why? What the hell did you do to HC that completely broke the browsing experience compared to GB and why didn't you ever fix it?
HC on the View = TRIPLE FACEPALM UTTER AND COMPLETE FAIL.
Mine is fine. By the way, 10 seconds?
j510 said:
Mine is fine. By the way, 10 seconds?
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Yeah it's crazy. Ever since I flashed back to HC browsing takes for-e-ver to load.
Mine gets like that when i have to much apps open, download a task manager and kill the apps you not using, the more RAM you got free, the smoother it will be.
Gotta love it when folks post things as if every user is having the same problem when it's clear that's not the case. I think we discussed this before, but frankly if you have so much stuff active that you have to kill apps with a 3rd task killer to get your browser to work you have bigger issues.
The built-in memory management and task killer takes care of that very well unless you have badly misbehaving apps or other abnormal problems. If everything is normal in HC or even the older GB, there should always be approx 80% of RAM used. That's normal and if you kill things, android will just fill RAM to 80% again, over and over because that's how it's memory manager works and for good reasons.
And the browser in HC works just fine if you or bad apps don't screw the system up. Do makes sure you have some free space in flash for the browser cache and clear the cache occasionally.
Try rebooting your tab
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Gotta love it when folks post things as if every user is having the same problem when it's clear that's not the case. I think we discussed this before, but frankly if you have so much stuff active that you have to kill apps with a 3rd task killer to get your browser to work you have bigger issues.
The built-in memory management and task killer takes care of that very well unless you have badly misbehaving apps or other abnormal problems. If everything is normal in HC or even the older GB, there should always be approx 80% of RAM used. That's normal and if you kill things, android will just fill RAM to 80% again, over and over because that's how it's memory manager works and for good reasons.
And the browser in HC works just fine if you or bad apps don't screw the system up. Do makes sure you have some free space in flash for the browser cache and clear the cache occasionally.
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Its true that there are always certain apps open, however if you open other apps and exit, they stay open. For instance my news app takes about 100 - 200 MB of ram when its open, if i exit, it stays open and occupies that amount, kill it. its EXTRA apps that you kill.
Just because you have a certain experience, doesn't mean it applies to everyone else.
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Its true that there are always certain apps open, however if you open other apps and exit, they stay open. For instance my news app takes about 100 - 200 MB of ram when its open, if i exit, it stays open and occupies that amount, kill it. its EXTRA apps that you kill.
Just because you have a certain experience, doesn't mean it applies to everyone else.
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I understand where you are coming from but the Theory behind DigitalMD's post is SPOT ON, the taskiller and builtin memory management within linux should not cause you any problems, also if a single app is taking up 100 - 200 mb of RAM there is something seriously wrong. What ROM are you using and if you can, please post a link to the ROM. I will try and help you out, i do not have a view but hopefully i can fix this
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Now what is the key to having a fast, smooth running device? Well its probably a lil different than most people think. Over time our phones become slow and lag which gets very annoying, and if u install 10,000 apps this is coming to happen. It is also going to ruin your battery life too. Sadly people get fooled by apps like cleanmaster and du battery saver into thinking they are magically gonna fix things, but it wount fix. These kinds apps actually make the problem worse and jus give the illusion of better performance and battery.
Ok these apps don't actually do anything but burn ram and cpu cycles in the background draining more battery. When u hit that boost, it wipes apps from ram and Android immediately starts reloading them so u get a quick boost then even more lag cuz everything is trying to run again. You have to understand how android operates. Apps run a steady service and all apps have to use the same ram and that ram is finite. Now once it becomes overloaded, android (the garbage collector) will start to kill apps it thinks u are less likely to use. This is great, but if you have too many apps they all try to reload at once overwhelming android. So it goes into a cycle of killing and reloading causing all kinds of problems. So using a task killer jus makes things worse.
CPU IS WHAT CAUSES LAG.... Yes, it's your cpu maxed out that causes your phone to slow down. When an app is cached into ram it is using cpu cycles,and when an app is loading it really uses alot. So killing an app with a task killer causes tons of cpu burn and thus burning battery. You're better off leaving it running it uses less. So my point is... DON'T USE SO MARY APPS! Only keep what u need installed because 95% of apps will run a service when installed.
WAKELOCKS.. VERY BIG IMPACT!!......A wakelocks is when an app wakes up your cpu while the phone is in deep sleep, which is necessary for stuff like syncing and notifications. But alot of apps do it for no reason really and it burns tons of cpu killing more battery. Unfortunately there's not much u can do about them without root.
HIBERNATION IS THE REAL KEY!!
There's two apps that actually will save you battery and give you better performance.... Greenify and ShutApp.. These apps don't jus kill apps but put them into hibernation where they do not run and burn cpu cycles and use ram. You need to hibernate any app u don't rely on for messages, notifications, weather updates, etc.. because it will be completely shut down , works greatly try it?
AN ALMOST FULL RAM IS A GOOD THING!! Cleaning your ram is bad it jus cause the whole restart process of apps... You want your ram almost full of the apps you're using so they don't have to be reloaded burning cpu and ram bad.
STOP CLEANING CACHE CONSTANTLY!! Cache is how android operates and is not junk! When u wipe cache android immediately has to rebuild it and that does what? Burns more cpu and battery, slowing ur phone down. The only time it's necessary is when an app needs refreshing or is misbehaving. Maybe clean cache, android needs that cache to run fast and smooth.
DON'T BE LAZY!! Learn your files and take a few extra minutes to go through ur file Explorer and delete useless files. Es File Explorer will automatically clean residual files upon app uninstalls and runs a very light service. Then there's SD maid pro, which cleans all kinds of ---, cleanmaster won't like ghost files, duplicate files and apks, etc.. and runs no background service at all.
DONT USE A BATTERY SAVER!!
They are all jus gimmicks and don't actually do anything but run another heavy background service. All about "trickle charging" and other stuff is ridiculous and total waste.... You are the real battery saver. Keeping less apps on ur phone, hibernation, going to data usage and turning off background data for apps that don't need it, smart display use, etc.... These are the real battery savers.
BE SMART, THINK!! Install "Process Widget" by It-Dan software and look for any app running that has no reason to be. Use GREENIFY OR SHUTAPP!! These will have a real impact. If u actually got better battery using another battery gimmick app I promise it was something you were doing lol..
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