A Place For Thanks - HTC EVO 3D

I know that this may not be the best place for thanking the TeamWin developers....
But I guessed that most people would like a place to thank everyone, without doing it on the actual threads! lol
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1149998
And looking for something like this in the "General" section is well - who wants the general section now!
Anyway, tons of thanks! Really amazing stuff!
Lets leave the dev threads open for the stuff we want - root on our phones! SWEET!

This belongs in General, moving to general.

Threads like these are why "nobody wants the general". You are a tool
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Stericson said:
This belongs in General, moving to general.
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Stericson you are quickly becoming my favorite moderator (and thats not sarcasm)..

This is a repost anyway.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1150097

Stephanie this isn't the first time you've done this. Haven't you learned by now where to post? Or do you just like to stir **** up?
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Vdubtx said:
This is a repost anyway.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1150097
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Probably people dont see all the great posts like that ("anyway."), because they're in the general section...
If there was one "spot" at the top of the page in the developer section, for all the great thanks and gratitude people have, then all the threads wouldn't be clogged up with "THANKS"...
Stericson, removed about 3 pages of "usless thanks in the thread. TY
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1149998
There is a place for thanks... I never saw the other thread... others like me, prolly just rush in to see the latest news and skip the "GENERAL" section...
And dump and port their latest thanks updates!
Thats all I was doing - Keeping it close to free up the "Informative" threads...
Have a good one!
Cheers!
Now back to "F5"

chefdave12118 said:
Stephanie this isn't the first time you've done this. Haven't you learned by now where to post? Or do you just like to stir **** up?
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Probably the latter.

The Other Time I was Suggesting A Method Outside The Box?
chefdave12118 said:
Stephanie this isn't the first time you've done this. Haven't you learned by now where to post? Or do you just like to stir **** up?
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I put in some good ideas about brainstorming that were outside the box- if all you do is look back and criticise, that's odd.
All I wanted to do was inspire alternate methods, if the ones that don't work at the moment, aren't working!
Therefore, it is better to inspire people to get to the moon, than to wallow in your negativity...
Keep it real and let's get the people who know what they're doing, on track to look at "All the posibilities".
"Never give up, never give in, never surrender"
lol

Stiring things up?
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Probably the latter.
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Well when everyone is talking about quitting before everything is tried - it's better to stir things up in a good way...
It's amazing that XDA found a way to root the 3vo! congrats!
WOOT WOOT!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1149998
I'm glad it's been done without any OTA updates unlocking anything...
SWEET!

Stephanie is a woo, hands down. nvm the rules, I gotta inspire. No matter the reason for the rules or the fact that it is preventing actual work to be done....or that you can't see the work being done due to the clutter I'm inspiring dammit, leave me a lone.

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Stephanie is a woo, hands down. nvm the rules, I gotta inspire. No matter the reason for the rules or the fact that it is preventing actual work to be done....or that you can't see the work being done due to the clutter I'm inspiring dammit, leave me a lone.
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Wait.... What?

SolsticeZero said:
Wait.... What?
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my thoughts exactly

Jdogg I don't follow.
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Keep this thread on track please... For Thanks!
jdogg836 said:
Stephanie is a woo, hands down. nvm the rules, I gotta inspire. No matter the reason for the rules or the fact that it is preventing actual work to be done....or that you can't see the work being done due to the clutter I'm inspiring dammit, leave me a lone.
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HaHa how do I delete your negativity?
When everyone was giving up on unlocking our awesome 3vo's, I said, "if HTC or Sprint can change the operating system anytime they want, why can't we?"
I was thinking that there might be a way to enclose the hack within the HTC code... So that no root would be required, if the new code was included within the normal HTC signature. I don't know what I'm doing except I don't like to give up...
This Thread is for Thanking The Developers!
I love XDA!

How about you use the thanks button. That is why they have it.
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Good god. Start a freeking love blog if you want. The name of this website, for the record, is WWW.XDA-DEVELOPERS.COM. smh. There's a cool thing they implemented here, a thanks button, so you can thank people for their work or help, WITHOUT clogging threads, or starting new ones.
BANG! from my shooter...

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Good god. Start a freeking love blog if you want. The name of this website, for the record, is WWW.XDA-DEVELOPERS.COM. smh. There's a cool thing they implemented here, a thanks button, so you can thank people for their work or help, WITHOUT clogging threads, or starting new ones.
BANG! from my shooter...
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good to see you over here buddy.. and totally agree..

So many smiley's, reminds me of someone from the HeroC forums that shall remain unnamed, ugg

YOU'RE Missing the Point! Stay on topic- Write stuff to those you love -lol
il Duce said:
Good god. Start a freeking love blog if you want. The name of this website, for the record, is WWW.XDA-DEVELOPERS.COM. smh. There's a cool thing they implemented here, a thanks button, so you can thank people for their work or help, WITHOUT clogging threads, or starting new ones.
BANG! from my shooter...
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I totally agree!
BUT the actual thread ---->
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1149998
Was getting so bogged down with thanks... it was rediculous!
About 3 pages were deleated then it was closed!
DER
So if there was another outlet for people to post "Thanks"--- that they would see --- when they come running in all a "googoo" eyes into the thread, to find all the latest updates... and then clog it up "with thanks"...
maybe they would use that...!
So when they come running into the forums and see a "Place For Thanks" staring them in the face(in the developers section)- maybe they would use that instead of the dev threads... I hate reading 160 + pages to see repeated stuff too!
I see the "Thanks Button" I guess everyone else didn't...

Related

Anyone know when the next update is coming out/

Its gone quiet here ...
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OMG!
I seriously can't believe you've posted in the Dev section
YOU'RE NOT EVEN NEW!!
SO Dumb!
lol
No ones knows. That the policy of Motorola.
right about the time you learn the difference between the Dev forum and the general forum.
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Its gone quiet here ...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA
READY THE CLOWN SIGNAL
tjjensen23 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA
READY THE CLOWN SIGNAL
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That's awesome!
& it totally applies to 'ekerbuddyeker'
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Its gone quiet here ...
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come on buddy... really?
I don't want to "flame" you or anything, but if you had some common sense.... don't post useless threads in a developer forum... unless mayyybe if you got here by accident? Maybe you clicked around and got on dev forum.. idk...
OR maybe you were looking for people to be mean to you... I really wish i could help you (and I do not mean by responding to your statement with information)..
~_~
Reported
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cegna09 said:
right about the time you learn the difference between the Dev forum and the general forum.
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This is fitting
such a disaster dude lol. cant refrain from posting this hahaha. god its hilarious. like unbelievable, hahaha so mayn threads in the general and q&a about this and than he goes and makes a new thread in the dev section. godlike! its vintage like the duke nukem forever demo. anyhow the word is end of june or most probably mid to late july.
Man...i use to think the Vibrant section was bad about staying in the right forum...but obviously I was wrong :/
We need a second moderator, or XDA needs to add a vote kick/vote ban button. Get enough votes, and gtfo.
Refreshing too see something new in this section even as dumb as this is thanks
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right about the time you learn the difference between the Dev forum and the general forum.
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what kind of idiot posts this in the wrong section??
OMG its me!!
genuine mistake made on the loo on the android app. I assume apologies are acepted here...?
Mods can close this / move this etc.
Also, you should all relax a bit. its just a forum after all.
ekerbuddyeker said:
what kind of idiot posts this in the wrong section??
OMG its me!!
genuine mistake made on the loo on the android app. I assume apologies are acepted here...?
Mods can close this / move this etc.
Also, you should all relax a bit. its just a forum after all.
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Yeah I don't really know why people act like that. I mean gah, how can humans possibly make mistakes?!
ekerbuddyeker said:
what kind of idiot posts this in the wrong section??
OMG its me!!
genuine mistake made on the loo on the android app. I assume apologies are acepted here...?
Mods can close this / move this etc.
Also, you should all relax a bit. its just a forum after all.
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Aw gross, I can't believe you use your phone on the can. That's disgusting!
Posted from my toilet via turds.
some of my best 'foruming' is from there....
I guess the irony didn't come across like I intended it to.
You know when your legs fall asleep you've been in there too long lol.
...Senior Members should give an example.
Thread closed.

New HTC Sense 3.5??

Is anyone planning on porting this to our Evo3D or at least some elements from it into current roms?
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Joelz nd vinz are working on it bro
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Wrong spot broski
But yeah, for the weirdos that want it, people are developing it
I personally think its ugly.. to put it nicely
get out while you still can
>.<
Fail
E3D
Fail......
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Just echoing the other posts... but again??!! This has been asked many times the past week...
MRFERRARI23 said:
Is anyone planning on porting this to our Evo3D or at least some elements from it into current roms?
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Leave it to the Vizz to begin begging for the latest and greatest.
Jesus Christ.
FIVE years here, and still don't get forum structure?? I don't even need to give my usual speech. You just failed really hard. Did you bother to search? This has been asked so many times, and even more so, it's been asked wrongly in this section as well.
Just a thought, but all you thread nazi do realize that if you DONT reply to a post it will fall down the pages?
Im sure Liquid does since he has been here 3 years. Right?
kilik64 said:
Just a thought, but all you thread nazi do realize that if you DONT reply to a post it will fall down the pages?
Im sure Liquid does since he has been here 3 years. Right?
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Ahhh, Professor Irony demonstrates his expertise.
The idea is not to bump the post, dear friend. It's to make it clear to the OP (as well as lurkers and new users who read the thread) that this isn't how we do it at XDA.
And pot meet kettle...
kilik64 said:
And pot meet kettle...
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Indeed, glad we got that out of the way.
I'm sorry, can you hear me from all the way up there on your pedestal?
lol you are my favorite. Any time I need a laugh I look for a thread where I know you will have posted and get a few laughs.
You have not failed to amuse again, thanks!
kilik64 said:
lol you are my favorite. Any time I need a laugh I look for a thread where I know you will have posted and get a few laughs.
You have not failed to amuse again, thanks!
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Awww. It's good to know you have a crush on me. PM me sometime, you stud you.
You're so awesome I just might...
fastamx79 said:
Just echoing the other posts... but again??!! This has been asked many times the past week...
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Yes but not in development, we may a different answer here.
Jesus will yall just let it fall already? (yes I understand the irony in my post, no need to point it out and bump again)
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Questions or Problems Should Not Be Posted in the Development Forum
Please Post in the Correct Forums
Moving to Q&A
To everyone who had to go out of their ways to write stupid shyt and get there post count up I have a few choice things I could say but I'm better then that so I won't! All you had to say was I posted it in the wrong spot and that would've been more then sufficient but no, but I guess that's xda for you...its a shame smh and to those who were kind enough to not be jerks thanks!!
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JayKay for unnamed 2.0 exist?

Anyone know by chance? Thanks!!
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no and this thread is pointless because its been brought up a few times in the unnamed thread
Nick281051 said:
no and this thread is pointless because its been brought up a few times in the unnamed thread
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youre pointless for responding to it then
mmtrago said:
youre pointless for responding to it then
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I answered the question didn't I? I also gave some advice so no it wasn't pointless.
mmtrago said:
youre pointless for responding to it then
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No, his response has a point cause it will inform people who don't know( like yourself).
theres only three people i like around here..gtg..jivy and entropy..the rest of you just answer questions like jerks cause you think you contribute so much but you really dont and you just **** on the new people...this includes the people that run this site as well
I have a dream...... That we'll all get along. Approved by Martin Luther King.
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I see and impending closing of this thread. XD.
Let's keep it alive by spreading more hate (Now that was a pointless post)
I don't try to make it seem like I contribute a lot. I just answer questions to the best of my ability because I don't know how to theme/dev I'm not ****ting on new guys
This explains why I said what I said in my first statement: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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mmtrago said:
theres only three people i like around here..gtg..jivy and entropy..the rest of you just answer questions like jerks cause you think you contribute so much but you really dont and you just **** on the new people...this includes the people that run this site as well
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this meaningless derp supposed to be a "contribution????" if all that is "contributed is peace of mind for a few, than its far more than any of your posts good sir. this is not a bashing / flaming board. please check your disposition towards our fellow members
what? the only people you like here are ROM devs? you make me laugh at you
You all sound like a bunch of nagging women.... Just saying
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what? the only people you like here are ROM devs? you make me laugh at you
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I've always known Entropy more for his Kernel.
Gotta thank Zedomax too, he contributed quite a bit with his root walk-through.
I don't understand how this thread is still open.
My understanding was it was [Q] "Does JKay mod work on UnNamed 2.0.0?" [A] "No, its been answered, search before asking"
Based on that layout this belongs in Q/A anyway
How did it all turn into a **** storm??
AntwanL said:
I've always known Entropy more for his Kernel.
Gotta thank Zedomax too, he contributed quite a bit with his root walk-through.
I don't understand how this thread is still open.
My understanding was it was [Q] "Does JKay mod work on UnNamed 2.0.0?" [A] "No, its been answered, search before asking"
Based on that layout this belongs in Q/A anyway
How did it all turn into a **** storm??
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People get offended when you tell them to look before creating threads
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mmtrago said:
theres only three people i like around here..gtg..jivy and entropy..the rest of you just answer questions like jerks cause you think you contribute so much but you really dont and you just **** on the new people...this includes the people that run this site as well
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Says the master of all contributors on this site, with your 59 posts. Get a life and go back to reading instead of posting. Obviously you have no clue what goes on here.
What is jaykay?
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mmtrago said:
theres only three people i like around here..gtg..jivy and entropy..the rest of you just answer questions like jerks cause you think you contribute so much but you really dont and you just **** on the new people...this includes the people that run this site as well
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Cool, infraction given for flaming.
Thread also closed due to... well a number of things, but most importantly we dont need another one of these threads since this topic has been brought up several times in the UnNamed thread in the Development forum.

How do I go back to stock?

Hey guys! Long story short, I unlocked, rooted and installed Clockwork as my recovery and it kept hanging when I was trying to do a backup.
I got frustrated and impatient so I just flashed CleanRom without doing a backup first. I love CleanRom and all, but if I wanted, can I go back to stock now that I don't have a backup?
Any info would be appreciated, thanks!
What is your definition of stock? Unrooted? Relocked? Untouched rom? Somemore information would be helpful to guide you in the right direction.
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If you want to go back to stock. Relock your phone and grab the RUU. It will put you back from whence you came.
Uber :facepalm
First and foremost read THIS from beginning to end. Stop posting questions in the Dev section...despite how special you think you are...you're not. Post in general or maybe searching is a great idea.
If you want a stock ROM here. To go back to complete stock you need to relock the phone and flash the latest RUU IIRC...
What smart azz he must think owns xda
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blkhwk5177 said:
What smart azz he must think owns xda
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May I ask who you are referring to?
flexor224 said:
What is your definition of stock? Unrooted? Relocked? Untouched rom? Somemore information would be helpful to guide you in the right direction.
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I just mean rooted but without a rom. Basically all of the same bloat, files, etc that the phone came with.
Marcismo55 said:
May I ask who you are referring to?
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I would say you
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Marcismo55 said:
First and foremost read THIS from beginning to end. Stop posting questions in the Dev section...despite how special you think you are...you're not. Post in general or maybe searching is a great idea.
If you want a stock ROM here. To go back to complete stock you need to relock the phone and flash the latest RUU IIRC...
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Damn man, how about you relax for a minute? I never said I was special, so I don't know where you got that from.
I'm sorry that I posted this in the wrong forum. A mod can move it if they would like.
Oh, and thanks for the info.
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I would say you
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I would say you're the dumb ass here buddy. Development forum is for exactly that: DEVELOPMENT. How many times does it need to be said? Apparently quite a few for it to get through the thick heads of people like you.
Someone is having a bad case of the mondays,, or just a plain jerk..
Guys, can we stop the fighting? I've already apologized for posting in the wrong forum. That's my bad.
Can a mod please move this? Or even close it will be fine since I got the info that I needed.
Thanks!
Evo4gLI said:
I would say you're the dumb ass here buddy. Development forum is for exactly that: DEVELOPMENT. How many times does it need to be said? Apparently quite a few for it to get through the thick heads of people like you.
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Are you a mod? Don't you have anything better to do than hide behind a computer and act tough. People like you are the reason XDA fell apart. Grow up act like an adult, if you can't help someone than keep your mouth shut. Let the mods do their job
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Where's the development?
My post wasn't all that bad and we all provided the info the OP needed.
/thread
Most of the ROMs available are basically stock with minor, stable modifications. I feel pretty stock on ineffabilis and it feels true to the phone.
And the early (negative) respondent reminds me of Nick Burns, Your Company's Computer Guy
YouTube it
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My post wasn't all that bad and we all provided the info the OP needed.
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Yes it was.
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People posting in wrong sections and asking questions that have been asked about a million times get's very annoying. Have at it if that is what YOU want...if the OP would've used the search function, he/she would've found what they were looking for.
If you guys want to continue to baby people and spoon feed information to them then knock yourself out. If you post a new thread non-development thread in a development thread be prepared.
Jesus H. Christ on a pogostick, people. A "Development" forum isn't just for the Devs. It's also for people using the fruits of the devs' labors. Sometimes, they have questions. If they didn't, they'd probably be developing on their own, and XDA wouldn't need to exist. Sure, using search is advisable, dare I say it, recommended. But there is no reason to get nasty.
I've been a part of XDA since WinMo 5, and I left for a long time due to nastiness like this. I'm no developer. I just use what gets made, and I'm damn grateful for it. But there a reason XDA is slowly seeing a mass exodus to RootzWiki: Less (but still existent) dickery. Yes, what the devs do is a courtesy to the community. No, they shouldn't have to answer the sane questions repeatedly. The search doesn't always cut it, and it isn't always used. Wouldn't it just be easier to either quickly answer and encourage search usage politely or to quote and respond with a link to the relevant post? Even better yet, those of us that aren't devs but are at least semi-knowledgeable could give our service to the board and aid the devs by politely answering in their stead. Novel frickin idea.
/rant
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Jesus H. Christ on a pogostick, people. A "Development" forum isn't just for the Devs. It's also for people using the fruits of the devs' labors. Sometimes, they have questions. If they didn't, they'd probably be developing on their own, and XDA wouldn't need to exist. Sure, using search is advisable, dare I say it, recommended. But there is no reason to get nasty.
I've been a part of XDA since WinMo 5, and I left for a long time due to nastiness like this. I'm no developer. I just use what gets made, and I'm damn grateful for it. But there a reason XDA is slowly seeing a mass exodus to RootzWiki: Less (but still existent) dickery. Yes, what the devs do is a courtesy to the community. No, they shouldn't have to answer the sane questions repeatedly. The search doesn't always cut it, and it isn't always used. Wouldn't it just be easier to either quickly answer and encourage search usage politely or to quote and respond with a link to the relevant post? Even better yet, those of us that aren't devs but are at least semi-knowledgeable could give our service to the board and aid the devs by politely answering in their stead. Novel frickin idea.
/rant
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If you took one peep at my first post in this thread I provided the OP exactly what he was looking for and more. I didn't just be a **** and exit the thread as I have seen quite a bit on this particular forum. Do you realize more than half the time the Devs aren't the ones answering the repeated questions?
Anyway..you guys can continue to cuddle each others nuts and babysit one another and provide no help to the OP.
I'll exit this thread by quoting one of the Rezound forum Moderaters:
pstevep said:
Stuck
As is stated, do not post your questions in development forum. Before you start a new thread ask yourself this: "is what I'm posting a rom or a kernel?" or "is this a guide for development?"
If it is none of those, then post it in another forum.
Thanks..
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Have an awesome day
Sweet Odin's raven.. Why does everyone get their panties in a bunch around here.. (hypothetical)
Questions go in general forum until there is a q&a forum. OP got his information, and no one was a douche about telling him where to post. Education isn't bad.
Watch the attitudes with each other, thanks and good morning..
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Skype Developement

Has anyone heard anything regarding the development of Swype? I wanted to give it a shot again but I couldn't find it on xda and I wanted to see if anyone has heard of an ETA for the official release.
Edit: Just realized I named the thread Skype instead of Swype, I also put it in the wrong section. Sorry about that, I really wasn't paying attention. I'm doing too many things at the same time.
valdesr11 said:
Has anyone heard anything regarding the development of Swype? I wanted to give it a shot again but I couldn't find it on xda and I wanted to see if anyone has heard of an ETA for the official release.
Edit: Just realized I named the thread Skype instead of Swype, I also put it in the wrong section. Sorry about that, I really wasn't paying attention. I'm doing too many things at the same time.
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Just use Swype Beta!
and it's cool everybody posts in the wrong section eventually
alainater said:
Just use Swype Beta!
and it's cool everybody posts in the wrong section eventually
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!!!! +1000
First non sarcastic post to another's mistake. Thank you, seriously.
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You can change the name of the thread by changing the subject line in your first post by using the "advanced edit" option.
And you can just request a mod to move it, or they will see it eventually.
And about the question I have not seen any updates for swype beta recently. I can't use it as a standalone keyboard though.
When I had the EVO Shift 4G with a hardware keyboard it was perfect though
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!!!! +1000
First non sarcastic post to another's mistake. Thank you, seriously.
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Hah I try, I mean what's the point of flaming people?
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Hah I try, I mean what's the point of flaming people?
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Well, their are some idiots who need to be flamed to learn unfortunately.
but the OP honestly just made a sincere mistake that he caught before any of us said anything, because he knows the rules. There's no point in yelling at him

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