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My installed application list:
http://www.appbrain.com/user/samjuan
I have exchange, yahoo and hotmail, of which only exchange is set to push from 8 to 5 and then everything else is set to manual.
Gmail and all other services (whatsapp, tango, viber... etc) are set to push all the time.
Brightness is set to auto and I have a jawbone era Bluetooth headset that is connected all the time.
I am running on official i9100JPKF3 with I9100XXKF1 as the modem.
I just want your advice and opinion and to share my application list and experience.
I would be very thankful and appreciative if you turn around and walk away if you think I shouldn't have opened a new battery thread and/or my post wasnt up to your standards.
Thank you in advance.
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1 hour 12 min screen time and so little battery left is a bit less than normal. I get around 4 hours of screen time before my battery dies.
There seems to be a huge amount of time where the screen is not on but the phone is wide awake, which means high battery consumption. If you're talking on the phone or listening to music at these times when the screen is on, then it's normal. If not, then there is some app or widget keeping the device awake.
try freezing "wifi sharing" as well. Not sure if that helps but i see alot of wifi battery use.
Thank you for your reply.
In the case of calls, it is only 30 min as indicated by the pic above.
I do not listen to music on my phone at all, neither I have many widgets, the only widgets I have are: Modern Clock, Google Search, Accuweather.com widget set to refresh every 3 hours, Month widget.
also I have the windy weather live wallpaper and it is set to refresh every 1 hour.
So you mean that is not normal for stock configuration?
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try freezing "wifi sharing" as well. Not sure if that helps but i see alot of wifi battery use.
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I am not rooted and do not wish to TBH.
however, I try to be connected to wifi for data as much as possible, as I have read somewhere that it does have better effect on battery than cellular data connection, that is why you see a lot of wifi.
One question please. How do you get the first screenshot ?
I can see wifi activity that suppose you have wifi enable all the time, is that right? As you can read, wifi sharing and other stuff around are battery consumers. You can read litening thread about this.
Other question, did you disable fast dormancy *#*#9900#*#* ?
And samsung apps disable notification even in wifi mode...
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One question please. How do you get the first screenshot ?
I can see wifi activity that suppose you have wifi enable all the time, is that right? As you can read, wifi sharing and other stuff around are battery consumers. You can read litening thread about this.
Other question, did you disable fast dormancy *#*#9900#*#* ?
And samsung apps disable notification even in wifi mode...
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Screenshot: Settings --> Applications --> Battery usage --> Click on the upper graph, to take the screenshot (in case this is what you are asking about) hold home then immediately click the power button.
I have read about process freeze and other root activities, which I am not interested in.
I have also read that fast dormancy has no real effect on battery life, have you tried it yourself and did it work effectively? what was the difference in your case?
Thank you for the samsung apps thing, I will try that and see.
Just to clarify, I am not complaining about battery life or anything, I am just sharing my experience to make sure that whether this is normal or I am missing out on anything.
Regarding the fast dormancy stuff, I have read this thread and got contradicting results that confused me (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1111581&page=4) I did have the "data network stuck" problem, but after factory format and with a little over 44 hours of uptime, I still didn't face it. I am afraid it is going to pop up again if I alter this setting. besides, fast dormancy is a network feature, I will check with my provider to see if they support it or not, although I get H+ in most of the locations I have been in while using data.
Has anybody confirmed that wifi sharing is the culprit, or even Ms exchange emails?
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I think everyone was seeing wifi sharing showing up quite a bit under battery usage stats. It was using a good amount of battery on mine.
Wifi sharing, is there a way to disable it without root?
On another note, charging from 5% to full charge takes almost 3 hours and 45 minutes, is this normal?
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@OP- If you haven't already done then calibrate your battery with Battery Calibration app by Nema from Market.
For me it worked pretty well.
Regards.
I am using litening ROM since v1.1
When version 1.5 was delivered, litepro rollbacked the delivery during one day or two days. Because, I was using v1.4, modem ke7 was the version I used and I tried to flash only the modem version to upgrade to the latest one (kf2). The benefit was important not only with data up but also when I put my phone in plane mode. But, I saw also a great improvement when I flashed the version 1.5 of litening with wifi sharing removed.
I don't really use data all day but for me with many samsung apps freezed with titanium backup (social, game, ... Hub). I have a great improvement with this rom. I will try to activate data and wifi all day tomorrow to see the battery impact.
without any custom roms, root related activities or any other warranty voiding stuff, do you guys still think that my battery utilization is abnormal with the amount of usage I have?
I have been experimenting with battery life and different scenarios, uninstalled Facebook, Twitter, Skype, fring and nimbuzz... However battery life didn't increase.
So decided to switch off data completely, and only work on wireless whenever available.
Looking at the screenshots below, i still see awake times with screen off, especially in the last periods...
My question is, how can I check what is keeping the phone "awake" while screen is off?
Thank you in advance.
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You can check it with Watchdog but it will also drain some battery. So use ATK, you won't have a non-synchronized Awake and Screen On bar.
Regards.
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Has anybody confirmed that wifi sharing is the culprit, or even Ms exchange emails?
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Ms-exchange is the one for me... I then switched to "Enhanced email" and it had fixed battery life quite good..
download CPU SPY from the market and see if your phone is going into deep sleep.
reset the timers, then one by one, change variables until you find the culprit.
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With .6, my battery is draining very fast. For example at night, I go into airplane mode and in 7 hours the battery goes from 100% to 65%. This used to be from 100% to 95% in 7 hours.
Needless to say that the phone now don't holds a day on normal usage, even when I don't use 3G. Before the update the phone used to last 3 days on a full charge!
What is up with the phone? I've checked active services and all, but could not find something unusable.
Odd, I thought mine had actually got better under .6.
I would loose approx 1% of battery per hour overnight, same after .6, although I doin't use airplane mode.
I unplugged my mini off charge around 9pm Wednesday, it's been used for calls, browsing, music playback and a few photos, as of now, 8am on Friday, the battery is at 50%
Admitedly it had a extra few minute on charge inbetween while I pulled a few photos off via usb, but no more than 5 minutes at the most.
Well, i don`t know if it is because of .6 update or launcher pro home screen, but my battery drains also very fast. It loses almost 35% overnight (3g, wifi off and phone in silent mode).
I don't use LP myself, Zeam all the way for me, but other than that, set up sounds similar, 3g/wifi off and in silent(not airplane) mode.
In the hour or so since my last post, the phone has been in my pocket on the way to work and it's only this second dropped to 49%
Simply get some system info app, I recommend Advanced Task Manager, tho not for killing processes at start, but for showing winch ones runs in background (all apps tab). Why? Some processes, like Gmail Disc Space, or other (3) google apps can be killed with no consequences, and not only that, but Quick Search Window / Download Manager / Checking Service / Preferences etc. When You start some system app, like Market, they get back running. So You can easily save battery at night, or wherever You want.
For more advanced users I recommend getting autostarts app, and turn off processes that are loading when phone is in standby, or screen is turned off - most of them are totally useless... No kidding. Quick tip: ppirate said that he switch the airplane mode on for the night, but thats only one thing. The clue is to switch off any updates on widgets, or apps (autostarts). Sometimes they trying to update even if theres no connection, and that consumes battery.
Last recommendation - turn back to .24, or .504. I really don't understand why people updated...
I run my mini @ 600-600mhz all the time, deleted all non essential apps, switch off autostarts for 3rd party apps, and some system apps, and I'm doing stuff that I mentioned above - battery is in excelent shape, and stands for two days of intensive use, or four days standby + calls/sms.
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Can you explain, wich system apps are safe to kill at startup?
I downloaded advanced task manager, and in idle it shows only three apps running:
go weather, juice defender (IMO doesn`t do anything, what it supposed to do), battery solo widget. All my updates are done manually.
I guess that apps that are safe for me to kill at start are: Google talk, since i`m not using it, SE Sync, timescape (might as well uninstall it, don`t use also).
And apps that i`m not sure of are: download manager, diagnostics tools and update service.
Finally, how can i downgrade to .24. Does it mean that i have wipe my phone and install custom rom or generic SE .24 rom?
For info, my phone is rooted and JIT enabled.
EDIT: So far I took my phone from wall charger approx 9am and for now (6pm) i have made few phone calls, wifi for about 1 hour and played abduction for like 15 min and my battery shows 57%, so i think by tomorrow morning my battery is dead:S
tpratka said:
Can you explain, wich system apps are safe to kill at startup?
I downloaded advanced task manager, and in idle it shows only three apps running:
go weather, juice defender (IMO doesn`t do anything, what it supposed to do), battery solo widget. All my updates are done manually.
I guess that apps that are safe for me to kill at start are: Google talk, since i`m not using it, SE Sync, timescape (might as well uninstall it, don`t use also).
And apps that i`m not sure of are: download manager, diagnostics tools and update service.
Finally, how can i downgrade to .24. Does it mean that i have wipe my phone and install custom rom or generic SE .24 rom?
For info, my phone is rooted and JIT enabled.
EDIT: So far I took my phone from wall charger approx 9am and for now (6pm) i have made few phone calls, wifi for about 1 hour and played abduction for like 15 min and my battery shows 57%, so i think by tomorrow morning my battery is dead:S
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Even my phone lasts a day max... After initial 2.1 update it was 2-3 days... After that 1 day max.. With 3g,Wifi,Data off... I think its due to low signal strength in area....
Exactly, before update my phone reached even 4 days if not used often, but since the update, max is 1,5 days if i leave it on the table and don`t use it
EDIT: I think i finally solved my battery issue. I downloaded Watchdog Lite from the market to see wich widget or app takes a lot of resources at the background. For my surprise, my weather app (GO weather) took about 25% of cpu resources when running in background. Uninstalled it, installed another weather app and by now i fully charged my phone and since then (about three hours ago) it has gone from 100% to 98%. Before it was about 15% of loss.
So my suggestion is to download Watchdog and see if you have some programs that for some reasons take a lot of resources with the new update.
I really could not find the problem? Last weekend I took the trouble of doing a complete reinstall. Lo and behold! Still on the same charge after three days!
Since a few days I have a very interesting problem. I have my SGS3 for a few weeks now and I was very impressed with its battery life. Until a few days ago.
Then I installed PhotoEditor (from Samsung itself, using Samsung Apps). When opening Samsung Apps it installed an update. This also included the Push Service and some adservice. After that my battery drained really fast. After uninstalling all three apps (PhotoEditor, Push Service and Adservice) this high battery drain went on.
I then performed a hard reset. And even then, without even installing any apps it drains the battery too fast.
However, it only happens when I'm connected to a wifi network. 3G is always off. When wifi just stays on, but is not connected to a network, battery life is very good and nothing strange happens.
When wifi is connected, and when looking in the battery settings menu I can see a very high Keep Awake time in Android OS. However, it doesn't show which process actually is causing this high Keep Awake time. So I installed BBS, but this doesn't really give me a clue either.
Anybody having an idea what could be causing this battery drain? Even after a hard reset?
I'm not rooted, just using the stock firmware. All help is really appreciated!
Edit: I'll post some relevant screenshots soon.
ZunRob said:
Since a few days I have a very interesting problem. I have my SGS3 for a few weeks now and I was very impressed with its battery life. Until a few days ago.
Then I installed PhotoEditor (from Samsung itself, using Samsung Apps). When opening Samsung Apps it installed an update. This also included the Push Service and some adservice. After that my battery drained really fast. After uninstalling all three apps (PhotoEditor, Push Service and Adservice) this high battery drain went on.
I then performed a hard reset. And even then, without even installing any apps it drains the battery too fast.
However, it only happens when I'm connected to a wifi network. 3G is always off. When wifi just stays on, but is not connected to a network, battery life is very good and nothing strange happens.
When wifi is connected, and when looking in the battery settings menu I can see a very high Keep Awake time in Android OS. However, it doesn't show which process actually is causing this high Keep Awake time. So I installed BBS, but this doesn't really give me a clue either.
Anybody having an idea what could be causing this battery drain? Even after a hard reset?
I'm not rooted, just using the stock firmware. All help is really appreciated!
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Try flashing the latest firmware via Odin..and see what you install next time..also you can try changing WIFI sleep policy from the advanced options in WIFI..
I have the exact same problem!! Very frustrating. It started when I did and ota update so I decided to flash a custom rom. I have since then done numerous hard resets and re flashes to try to fix it. No luck.
I am now on omega v11.1 with the stock kernel and it still drains. I've installed better battery stats and this is what it shows:
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I can see the biggest problem is Google talk. But what are the others? My wifi is set to never stay awake when sleeping.
Very annoying as I was having great battery life for the first month of use but then suddenly this starts happening.
This needs to be solved as I see I'm not the only one.
Edit: I don't even have gtalk installed because it was part of the bloatware removed by omegas rom.
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Android OS draining battery, ONLY when connected to WIFI
Please find my screenshots attached. I discovered that my battery is only being drained when my phone is connected to WIFI. WIFI is on all the time, but when it's not connected to a network, nothing strange happens.
In the battery history details the first 9 hours are "recorded" when WIFI was on, but wasn't connected to any network (I was traveling). Then you can see a steep decrease when I got home again, and got connected to my WIFI network. This decrease continued than for the night.
In the BBS stats you can see that something from Google talk is listed quite high, and it is a large wake time.
However, it must be noted that although the phone has a huge awake time according to BBS, this can't be seen in the battery history of the phone itself. It seems like the phone is almost only awake when the screen is turned on, as it is supposed to be...
So it looks like when WIFI is connected something is happening, and that is draining my battery...
Any help in interpreting the above results is really appreciated!
Edit: I'm not logged in to Google Talk...
I'm only syncing WhatsApp, and Gmail (contacts, calendar and mail)
Last, but not least: The orange download arrow is on continuously. So it's downloading non-stop?! How can I find out what it is?
http://forums.androidcentral.com/verizon-galaxy-s-iii/188929-your-wifi-constantly-downloading.html
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=22878
Seems to be the same problem.
No drain on other WIFI
Back home, at my own WIFI network I don't experience this battery drain, and everything is normal. However, on my friends WIFI and my work WIFI network battery drains much and much faster. I didn't change anything in the settings meanwhile...
Any thoughts on this?
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Sorry wrong thread
Nobody any idea why WIFI drains my battery when it's connected to certain networks? While on other WIFI networks battery usage is normal? And more important: why it suddenly drains the battery on these first networks, even after a factory reset while a few weeks ago this didn't happen and battery drain was normal even on these networks?
Same problem here, battery drain is enormous when phone is connected to my home wi-fi - 20% in 7 hours. Download arrow is always flashing, android constantly d/l's something at 4-10 kb/s. Of course, I've checked anything - from mail client to android os - nothing. Tcpdump shows broadcast packets, some ARP packets, 25 out of 273 packets are directed to me - 6 from my mediaserver, others are from Google's servers - nothing that can explain constant download. Any advice?
UP1:
Frozen/deleted all google and samsung apps - maps, gmail, gtalk, google+, samsung push, firmware update, etc. No changes. Disabling google backup and autosync did nothing,
Get a data usage app from play(onavo is good) and that should tell you what is using the data
I've now been on my home network for almost two days, and without changing any settings this is the result. (see the attachment).
As you can see the phone has been connected to WIFI all night, and no such drain can be seen as in my first post. In other words; without changing any settings on the phone battery drain is normal on my own WIFI network. However, on two other WIFI networks there is a huge battery drain when connected while the phone has exactly the same settings.
So, that probably means it isn't due to some kind of app, but due to the WIFI network, or more specific to the combination of phone and WIFI-network. Looks like the WIFI network is always pushing data to the phone, to the system Android OS (as far as I could trace using Data Monitor). I know there have been some issues with WIFI on the SGS3, but they were mostly about disconnecting, and therefore different than this one.
What is most annoying is the fact that a few days ago battery drain was normal on all WIFI networks. Only after updating Samsung Apps (which included AdService and Samsung Push Service) and the PhotoEditor it started draining fast. However, after deinstalling these apps and a factory reset the problem persist. Even when disabling almost all apps no improvement.
Edit: An explanation maybe, but only for "open networks". But not a real satisfactory solution.
http://androidforums.com/android-lo...heavy-android-os-usage-use-wifi-lot-read.html
Do a hard reset, install 3g watch dog pro (not just mobile network.. it can also check wifi data traffic) and install all of your regular apps. Follow wifi data traffic apps by apps from watchdog..
Or second answer: install android firewall app, and choose apps which are really need internet access... dont allow the otherones.
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Do a hard reset, install 3g watch dog pro (not just mobile network.. it can also check wifi data traffic) and install all of your regular apps. Follow wifi data traffic apps by apps from watchdog..
Or second answer: install android firewall app, and choose apps which are really need internet access... dont allow the otherones.
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Doesn't help. Even after a factory reset, without adding my gmail account or installing any apps it drains the battery when WIFI is connected. The orange arrow is almost always lit, like it's downloading something. The strange thing is that this doesn't happen on another WIFI network, it only happens on some.
These apps tell me that it is the Android System itself which is downloading/receiving the data.
Identical report:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/t-galaxy-s-iii/189153-wifi-problem-battery-drain.html
And:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1824227
Multi-band Wi-Fi?
I don't know this for a fact, but I've read some things that lead me to believe the issue may (again, not confirmed), MAY be related to the recent ~LG8 OTA push. The root (no pun intended) cause is related to how the SG3 interacts in 802.11n band Wi-Fi networks that utilize multi-band (i.e. 2.4Ghz combined and 5Ghz running simultaneously).
One of the "features" of ~LG8 was to remove Advanced options for Wi-Fi networks, switching the connectivity logic to "automatic." If a GS3 is in a multi-band 'n' Wi-Fi network, it MAY be switching back and forth between bands, thus chewing up battery without actually pulling any data.
This is unconfirmed, so don't shoot the messenger. Can any of you validate whether or not the Wi-Fi networks where you see excessive drain is indeed a multi-band 'n' network?
No, im facing drain issues with 2.4 GHz network.
im also have this issue.
flash the new modem, should fix it.
xxlh1
djbijo said:
flash the new modem, should fix it.
xxlh1
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I agree. Try modem. I'm using the h1 and I got 16 hrs on one charge. but Im not sure whIch modem Is for you. Try the lInk below.
And I constantly have my phone on. Would post bat stats pic but I am a New user...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1740061
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djbijo said:
flash the new modem, should fix it.
xxlh1
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Modem doesn't change Wi-Fi. Drivers are in kernel.
Because you're facing issues on only some of your Wi-Fi networks I suspect it's the infamous broadcast/multicast issue. Try a custom kernel. Siyah have patched it I think. Had similar problems on my redundant network before patch.
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Already on latest Siyah, no changes.
What is the infamous broadcast issue? There are a lot of broadcast packets in my network...
On open networks it is really bad. When I connect to such a network it asks for me to log in/accept the terms. After accepting the terms my (standard) internet browser redirects me to my own homepage. However, the orange download-arrow keeps lit up. After a few minutes the phone gives this notification that I should accept the terms again. However, when I'm redirected to the browser there is nothing to accept, and my internet is still working properly.
So it looks like this "acceptation of terms" is a major issue, like the phone doesn't remember I already accepted the terms. Is it caused by the browser? Or something else?
NOTE: The issue is not with the Android Dropbox app, it's with Dropbox on your Mac or PC on the same network as your phone.
I was having a bad battery drain on my phone while connected to my home Wifi - as much as 3-6% per hour while the screen was off. This happened both on the stock ROM as well as CM9 and CM10. I finally figured out the cause - the dropbox program on my regular computer had an option called "enable lan sync" turned on. Apparently this makes your computer constantly send out broadcast traffic across your wifi network to all devices on your network. Some phone modems will see that broadcast traffic and wake up, meaning very little deep sleep, meaning poor battery life. I disabled lan sync on the computer and now the battery life on my phone is insanely better! It drains maybe 1% per hour. Note this doesn't affect all phones, just certain chipsets/modems. The Galaxy Note seems to be one of the ones affected.
I've been monitoring wakelocks with BetterBatteryState for awhile, and always say a wlan_rx_wake under kernel wakelocks. I Googled periodically for a cause and couldn't find anything. Tonight I got lucky and found what I needed to narrow down the issue.
It hasn't completely stopped the wlan_rx_wake wakelocks (I suspect the ones I'm still seeing are for real wifi use like background synching), but it has made it drastically better.
No issues here with dropbox and Google drive on my phone.
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No issues here with dropbox and Google drive on my phone.
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Did you even read the post? The issue is when you have Dropbox installed on a PC (or a Mac) on the same network and the Dropbox program has the "enable LAN sync" option checked. This has nothing to do with an app on your phone.
This worked for me. I was at 3-5 percent drain per hour on my Note and since I turned that setting off on my pc, I still had 100% battery at 1 hour 52 minutes on battery. A definate improvement thanks!
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I was having a bad battery drain on my phone while connected to my home Wifi - as much as 3-6% per hour while the screen was off. This happened both on the stock ROM as well as CM9 and CM10. I finally figured out the cause - the dropbox program on my regular computer had an option called "enable lan sync" turned on. Apparently this makes your computer constantly send out broadcast traffic across your wifi network to all devices on your network. Some phone modems will see that broadcast traffic and wake up, meaning very little deep sleep, meaning poor battery life. I disabled lan sync on the computer and now the battery life on my phone is insanely better! It drains maybe 1% per hour. Note this doesn't affect all phones, just certain chipsets/modems. The Galaxy Note seems to be one of the ones affected.
I've been monitoring wakelocks with BetterBatteryState for awhile, and always say a wlan_rx_wake under kernel wakelocks. I Googled periodically for a cause and couldn't find anything. Tonight I got lucky and found what I needed to narrow down the issue.
It hasn't completely stopped the wlan_rx_wake wakelocks (I suspect the ones I'm still seeing are for real wifi use like background synching), but it has made it drastically better.
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Great Find !!
Thank you Sir !....g
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Nice find
EvoXOhio said:
I was having a bad battery drain on my phone while connected to my home Wifi - as much as 3-6% per hour while the screen was off. This happened both on the stock ROM as well as CM9 and CM10. I finally figured out the cause - the dropbox program on my regular computer had an option called "enable lan sync" turned on. Apparently this makes your computer constantly send out broadcast traffic across your wifi network to all devices on your network. Some phone modems will see that broadcast traffic and wake up, meaning very little deep sleep, meaning poor battery life. I disabled lan sync on the computer and now the battery life on my phone is insanely better! It drains maybe 1% per hour. Note this doesn't affect all phones, just certain chipsets/modems. The Galaxy Note seems to be one of the ones affected.
I've been monitoring wakelocks with BetterBatteryState for awhile, and always say a wlan_rx_wake under kernel wakelocks. I Googled periodically for a cause and couldn't find anything. Tonight I got lucky and found what I needed to narrow down the issue.
It hasn't completely stopped the wlan_rx_wake wakelocks (I suspect the ones I'm still seeing are for real wifi use like background synching), but it has made it drastically better.
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Added to the Super Thread, under the tips and tricks section....great work.....g
as a matter of policy, I keep dropbox sync turned off on my phone and sync it manually when I need something.
Radimus said:
as a matter of policy, I keep dropbox sync turned off on my phone and sync it manually when I need something.
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Re-read the OP, that has nothing to do with what we're discussing here. The issue is not with the Android Dropbox app, it's with Dropbox on your Mac or PC on the same network as your phone.
I did read that, but I'd you understood my point then you'd see that by keeping the sync of, then the issue of locks or subnets, wouldn't matter
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I did read that, but I'd you understood my point then you'd see that by keeping the sync of, then the issue of locks or subnets, wouldn't matter
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You're missing the point. The dropbox program on your machine is constantly sending out broadcast packets to all IPs on the network. Certain cell phone modems (it doesnt seem to affect all android phones but ours is one of the affected ones) see those and wake up the phone. It doesn't matter if you have the dropbox app on your phone. The PC is waking up the Android OS via the modem.
Found this through the super thread. Nice info. However, I had a hard time finding out how to turn off lan sync. I opened my drop box and couldn't find the options.... Then for the heck of it I right clicked on the tiny icon on the bottom bar of my windows 8 PC. found the cog wheel, preferences> and then the settings opened. And lan sync was indeed checked. I don't know if it will make a difference, but I unchecked it. Thanks OP.
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You're missing the point. The dropbox program on your machine is constantly sending out broadcast packets to all IPs on the network. Certain cell phone modems (it doesnt seem to affect all android phones but ours is one of the affected ones) see those and wake up the phone. It doesn't matter if you have the dropbox app on your phone. The PC is waking up the Android OS via the modem.
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Actually if DropBox app has the Sync setting turned off, then it doesnt matter if the PC is broadcasting or not. It shouldnt affect the device in anyway. If the app is made properly for the device, it wouldnt receive the signal since Sync is disabled. It wouldnt matter if the desktop sync was on or off, if the app sync was off. Cant have a sync if 1 of the 2 devices has it disabled.
So if your still getting battery drain and you can prove it is from this app, then you should contact DropBox and notify them that they have indeed messed up. I can prove my side of this simply. I have never disabled the Desktop App Sync. But I have yet to have any effect from my device.
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Cant tell me that after 20 Hours on WiFi with the Desktop App Sync being on that I wouldnt show at least some life from DropBox on my battery usage. I can see usage from the Live Wallpaper, the game I played, Nova and others. But nothing to backup DropBox Desktop App Sync being on. So that tells me that DropBox has either updated their App since this was posted to prevent this issue, like it should do to begin with, or you open DropBox and forget to close it out. Cause I dont see anything to support DropBox using battery when not in use, even with Desktop Sync on.
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I have dropbox 50.2.2 (Android 7.0, galaxy S8) and the phone started telling me yesterday that dropbox was using too much power (3-4%) and would I like to shut it down?. I had two computers with dropbox on my local network (onw linux, one windows 10) and both had lan sync on. I've turned lan sync off and dropbox has gone back to 0.09%/hr.
When connected to my home Wifi my battery drains MUCH faster than when on 4G, 3G, Airplane mode, etc.
I've been noticing it the last two weeks or so, I have an updated Verizon LG 3 Stock + root. I tried factory reset, and reinstalling only a handful of apps (xposed+greenify+amplify and ones I use regularly), still happens. I've noticed "Android OS" and "Android System" take a large increase in battery used when connected to my home wifi vs mobile data. It doesn't seem to be downloading or syncing differently, but of course it could be transparent to me. I've tried looking at the wakelocks, alarms, services etc, but nothing in particular sticks out and I've tried limiting the ones that do in amplify, but the problem persists.
With my wifi turned on and connected, then wifi off (both just sitting in my house.)
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EDIT: See my post below for usage stats.
Any ideas as to what might be causing it? I've tried BetterBatteryStats, Amplify, Greenify, OS monitor, none of them show a clear culprit.
I have the same issue with my work Wi-Fi, however at home I get fantastic battery life. For me, when at work even if I rarely use my phone all day, I'm talking less than 30 minutes of screen on time, the battery could be down to 60% after 8 hours of just being idle. I believe this is specific to the wireless network we have setup, as it only happens here and not when at home on my personal Asus router. When looking at the battery stats the phone says it was awake for 4-6 out of those 8 hours, and that Android OS and system are the culprit. Compare this to home, where similar use will yield my phone being at 95%+ after 6-8 hours of just being idle with light use.
This isn't just the G3 though, I've tested a Moto X 2013, Droid Turbo, G2, and I've heard from many other users that they get horrible battery life at work.
Since my phone use at work is very minimal, I used the Xposed module Smart Network, which I have set to turn off Wi-Fi and mobile data after 1 minute of the screen being off, with mobile data enabling every 30 minutes (I only get 1x at work), and Wi-Fi every 60 minutes for 1 minute. What do you have for a wireless router at home?
hmm, could be, but it hasn't always done this when I'm at home and I haven't changed any of my network settings. I have a Linksys E-3000 running Tomato.
P.S. I don't trust those battery usage stats, after a full charge overnight with the screen off and no usage for 1 hour, it was still reporting screen usage as ~45%. I'll update with GSam battery stats and ampily when I get home. I'm going to try a full day wifi on but NOT connected to wifi, then a full day of wifi on and connected at home.
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When connected to my home Wifi my battery drains MUCH faster than when on 4G, 3G, Airplane mode, etc.
I've been noticing it the last two weeks or so, I have an updated Verizon LG 3 Stock + root. I tried factory reset, and reinstalling only a handful of apps (xposed+greenify+amplify and ones I use regularly), still happens. I've noticed "Android OS" and "Android System" take a large increase in battery used when connected to my home wifi vs mobile data. It doesn't seem to be downloading or syncing differently, but of course it could be transparent to me. I've tried looking at the wakelocks, alarms, services etc, but nothing in particular sticks out and I've tried limiting the ones that do in amplify, but the problem persists.
With my wifi turned on and connected, then wifi off (both just sitting in my house.)
Usage during the day at work (wifi on, but not connected to a network), Android System still seems a little high.
And after an hour and a half connected to my wifi, battery starts to drain. "Android System" and "Android OS" will keep rising as the night goes on.
Any ideas as to what might be causing it? I've tried BetterBatteryStats, Amplify, Greenify, OS monitor, none of them show a clear culprit.
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Do you get a good mobile signal at your house or wherever you are wifi?, just a thought, but your 3G/4G radios do not turn off when connected to wi-fi, it dosnt use mobile data but the radio is still on, if you have a weak signal it will use more battery searching for a better signal, try turning mobile data off while your connected to wi-fi and see if that makes a difference...
Alright, did some testing today. Here are the results.
I fully recharged it and left it alone for 4 hours (except for a little google music), collected the screen shots, then connected to my wifi, and waited 5 more hours. Only touched the phone for maybe 10 minutes either time.
I get good 4G in my house so that's not an issue. "Android System" and "Android OS" are just kicking into high gear why connected to my wifi.
The battery life looks impressive even with the issue, @40 hours, but i was not using the phone at all AND is about HALF of what the non wifi is using.
Wifi on but not connected on the left. ---------------- Wifi connected at home on the right.
The non wifi on the left even has more Wakelocks, but much less battery used.
Screenshots of the services & alarms are here... http://imgur.com/a/wHf1F but they are pretty much identical both times.
Alright, who else has an idea why Android OS and System are using so much?
I'm having the same issue and just as stumped as you. I'm currently running BeanTowns 11c stock ROM and the Skydragon 2.7.3 kernel. Was going to move to the skydragon 12B ROM and see if there was any improvement as there is no evidence of any offending apps causing this.
One change I've made but haven't had time to test the results is I've killed the Verizon Caller ID name and visual voicemail apps. I hear they try to maintain active 4G connections even on Wi-Fi which may cause excessive drain. I suspect this may be reported as part of Android system and not the apps themselves.
Came across this is advanced wifi settings, is yours ON? no idea what it does or if it has anything to do with it.
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Came across this is advanced wifi settings, is yours ON? no idea what it does or if it has anything to do with it.
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I keep those options off:
-Allow wifi scanning will kill battery
- Battery savings for WiFi causes notification delays for me. I don't notice significant savings with it enabled on any other device I have.
I can confirm I have fixed my issue by disabling Caller Name ID, Visual Voicemail, and LG Health (I think it was responsible for kernel wake locks).
So far today, I've been off the charger for 8 hours with minimal use. ~6 hours on WiFi and 2 hours on 4G with 15min of screen time....and I'm currently at 93% battery.
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I keep those options off:
-Allow wifi scanning will kill battery
- Battery savings for WiFi causes notification delays for me. I don't notice significant savings with it enabled on any other device I have.
I can confirm I have fixed my issue by disabling Caller Name ID, Visual Voicemail, and LG Health (I think it was responsible for kernel wake locks).
So far today, I've been off the charger for 8 hours with minimal use. ~6 hours on WiFi and 2 hours on 4G with 15min of screen time....and I'm currently at 93% battery.
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I disabled all that verizon crap the day I brought the phone home and rooted, so I cant compare stock to the setup I have now, but I can say I am impressed on the battery life of the phone compared to my previous phones and the screen it has....
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I disabled all that verizon crap the day I brought the phone home and rooted, so I cant compare stock to the setup I have now, but I can say I am impressed on the battery life of the phone compared to my previous phones and the screen it has....
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Agreed! Battery life is pretty good once you eliminate all the bloat.
Oh, another thing I forgot to mention was I had location disabled all day. One thing to check which definitely contributes to this issue is to make sure that if you need location use "Device sensors only (GPS only)". If you use "High accuracy" or "Battery savings" then a lot of google services go crazy over a wifi network by constantly polling for location. There are aspects of google services that can be disabled through the "Disable Service" app in the play store to help fix this....
My phone has been showing extreme wifi power usage since day one.
It has the same percentage as the screen most of the time. 10-15% drain at most.
It seems to level off and not extreme-drain after a while.
No clue as to why.
And here's the kicker; it's not turned on!
I know location services can be set to enable wifi in the background, this is disabled.
And the high power usage remains even when location is forced to "device only"
The Wifi is set to sleep when screen is off, although I don't see how that would change anything as it's turned off.
It has no correlation with signal strength, as some have suggested on other phones.
Resetting WiFi settings fixed it for a day, until I logged on to a WiFi again.
There's no strange activity when I enable "overlay cpu usage"
So I'm stumped. Restarting it works sometimes, but this isn't Windows XP...
Hello I have the same probleme with my moto z ....Even without using the wifi I use a higher screen
I hope that an update will correct this
mine is turned on and it drains the same as you describe.
I read several blogs and the problem is that the OS is taking a bad reading about the wifi battery consumption, meaning that this is a "bug", not that the wifi is really draining your battery. I made a few test by myself; first, the Wifi is the second place on battery stats, just below screen time, so I decided to charge the phone to 100% and use it as normal with wifi turn-off all day long, using only 4G/LTE signal and the battery was worse than using wifi signals, and surprise, the Wifi was second place again, not even using once on a that day. The second day I charged the phone 100% again and leave it unplugged over the night (12am to 6 am) with all connections on, and the battery drain was only 2%, pretty good in my opinion, and for the first time that day the wifi was the number one on the battery stats, using like 50maH at that time, if you make the math is not even possible, if the baterry is 2500ma and was 2% stand-by meaning that the 50mah consumption were only the wifi??? what about stand by, or sleeping???.
Today, my battery is 40% left and the wifi is number 1 again and STO is second, with 2 hours and 15 minutes and the wifi 10 hours on. As I said, I read several blogs and I am pretty sure is a bug, because I dont see that the wifi is really draining my battery.
The thing is my phone is running hot in my pocket, and no other application is using power according to the list.
BUT, I actually found a solution.
It's the Smart Lock, I had it set to use my location as a "never lock" area.
This setting apparently started the wifi continuously.
I entered Smart lock settings, deleted all entries and boom; WiFi doesn't even make the battery list any more. It's sub 1%.
And my phone is no longer scalding hot in my pocket either.
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The thing is my phone is running hot in my pocket, and no other application is using power according to the list.
BUT, I actually found a solution.
It's the Smart Lock, I had it set to use my location as a "never lock" area.
This setting apparently started the wifi continuously.
I entered Smart lock settings, deleted all entries and boom; WiFi doesn't even make the battery list any more. It's sub 1%.
And my phone is no longer scalding hot in my pocket either.
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Ok, you are right, the wi-fi is indeed draining to much battery, but after serveral configurations I found the right one, even you can use the "Smart lock" with out problem at all
You can check it here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/help/extreme-wifi-battery-drain-solution-t3476579
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That's settings I run most of the time, but for me it disappeared entirely with the smart lock location..
However, now there's a weird ghost drain, the phone will drop 20-25% in 4-5 hours with an absolute minimum of active use.
The phone is room temperature, so nothing appears to use any exorbitant amount of CPU like before.
And there's no obvious power hog in statistics either. :S
There's got to be some kind of bug with the CPU power down mode or something.. Not sure how I'm going to track it down.
Com.android.systemui is the only process in CPU stats.
But it shows 9.0 usage in all three rows.
Is that process using 90% CPU?
@Shadowdancer123 install Wakelock Detector Lite from the Play Store. Then follow the instructions in the Play Store app description on how to use it with a non rooted phone. When you are done running it you should know what the drain is from.
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So I finally received my USB type C cable so I could connect to my computer and install wakelock lite.
Found several guilty apps, two games which I'd installed but forgot about, that ran a lot in the background.
But biggest hog was an app called e-control for my broadcom wireless gadget, it had woken the CPU 4000 times in 3 ½ hours.
There's obviously a bug with battery stats, as none of these were visible there.
Or it only counts apps in foreground which is kind of pointless, as I already know my games eat battery...
Now when I leave the phone unplugged at night, after a full charge, expected battery life is 3-4 days in the morning.
Which is still terrible, but realistic.
Turn off location permission on google chrome Settings > Apps > google chrome... change permissions.. that is what fixed it for me.
Went from 20-27% wifi battery drain down to 5%.
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Turn off location permission on google chrome Settings > Apps > google chrome... change permissions.. that is what fixed it for me.
Went from 20-27% wifi battery drain down to 5%.
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did it report at chrome or did it report as WiFi?
May wifi is always on but no WIFI usage in battery..? plenty of bugs. I just bought this last week.
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did it report at chrome or did it report as WiFi?
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It reported the battery usage as Wi-Fi in both the system battery UI and GSAM Battery monitor.
Hi all, I'm still on the old firmware with July Android security patch update. I still get the false wifi reading after trying all the methods suggested here.
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Hi all, I'm still on the old firmware with July Android security patch update. I still get the false wifi reading after trying all the methods suggested here.
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Here is the solution. So far so good
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3476579
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It reported the battery usage as Wi-Fi in both the system battery UI and GSAM Battery monitor.
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orbitz52 said:
May wifi is always on but no WIFI usage in battery..? plenty of bugs. I just bought this last week.
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