Maybe I posted this in the wrong section,so sorry,asking to Zecanilis . Do anyone have an iPhone here? If so,anyone can tell why Android/iOS is better? I don't wanna know it,wanna know your opinions only
So,I prefer Android because it's opensource p) and because it's more "customizable" ha
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Wow, why do we need a topic like this ? Sorry, but if you write this on Google you can find thousands of them. This will only end with flames and fights. Nothing useful.
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Wow, why do we need a topic like this ? Sorry, but if you write this on Google you can find thousands of them. This will only end with flames and fights. Nothing useful.
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Yeah,infact I firstly posted and already-existing thread and I had to change thread theme. I apologize for this but what could I do?
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Actually, I like such threads, because they remind macfa...uh....macfans D) to keep quiet when it comes to comparisons to Android. Android is superior from almost any point of view.
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Actually, I like such threads, because they remind macfa...uh....macfans D) to keep quiet when it comes to comparisons to Android. Android is superior from almost any point of view.
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Yeah. But... I have to admit,for me AppStore games are better
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adobe ceo has said that apple can only dream of flash coming to ios because they are simply not going to make adobe flash of ios...
this is BIG + for android...
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Yeah. But... I have to admit,for me AppStore games are better
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Care to explain why? 'Cause both AppStore and Android Market contain their fair share of crap.
@ccdreadcc: True, although with the advent of HTML5 I'm not sure how long Flash support will continue to be an advantage of Android...
Android wins do to notifications the apps not games there more intgrated with the os an its changeable u can change everything an make ur phone look diffrent an i enjoy that no 2 phones look the same an iphone there identical but they do have better games an browser is better with pinching an zooming but my sgs is a little faster with apps closed but with stuff runing its laggy an ios is mostly smooth all the time but they dont have real multi tasking
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this old comic tells everything LINK
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this old comic tells everything LINK
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Exacly its ur phone u can do wat u plz tphone(therephone) 4 its not yours but u payed 1million 4 it
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You honestly can't go wrong with either and really depends on what you like. Honestly, I think why iPhone sales are so high is because people are misinformed about the product. Everyone gets it because they have been told to or think its cool since everyone has one, but at the end of the day both operating systems can do the same or maybe better(android).
I'd say both have their plus points. I've got my O1, which is my first android device. I love the ability to customise each and every part of it. We are all fans of this OS, we already know how great it is
But what I don't like about android, is the lack of quality content on the market, specially for low end devices like ours. I've got an iPhone 3GS too, and when you access the appstore on it, there's lots of great stuff out there.
Another downside is the lack of software optimisation. We got great hardware, with ****ty software: not a great combination. For e.g. my old iPod Touch 2nd gen still runs every damn single game I put on it without a drop of lagging, whereas we all know what happens on our O1. If we did not have such great developers here, we wouldn't be enjoying our O1 that much. :/
And before someone says something like, "you got a weak device, you should buy a SGS2 or whatever to feel the true power of android," I got one thing to say: each and every one of apple's products are optimised directly from manufacturers, their users dont need to depend on external developers. We can't say that much about our devices though.
Well my experience with iOS comes from an iPod Touch 3rd Gen that I've owned for 1.5 years, and my experience with Android comes from my O1 that I've owned for 2 weeks.
As others have mentioned I love my O1 and I think that Android as an "OS" it's definitely great, and I believe that if we were to compare iOS Vs. ANDROID only at the "OS" level, the Android OS it's superior essentially because it's a powerful, open source OS that allows you to go under the hood and tweak it or improve it, whereas with iOS is just a black box that you access only through APIs published by the manufacturer.
The thing is that comparing OS to OS does not makes much sense to the end user since what's more important is comparing "The Experience" of owning and using a phone with iOS Vs a phone with ANDROID, and at that level I think that iOS/iPhone definitely provides a much solid, cohesive and overall better experience to the end user (at least from my point of view):
1-) On iOS the OS and the Hardware are "One", since we have one company that manufactures the hardware and builds and optimize the OS to run only on that hardware, providing a longer life cycle for your product since the strategy of the manufacturer (Apple) is not focused on launching a new model every 3-4 months (as it is with Android phone manufacturers). Apple's focus is actually selling as much of the same model as they can over a period of at least one year.
2-) The Appstore even though is much more restrictive (than the Market) provides a much more controlled and predictable experience for App Developers, because they only have to worry about complying with the guidelines established by their development platform, and not with developing an App that will have to run as good as possible on hardware created by 8 or 10 different manufactures who have 100+ different phone models. Volume becomes an issue and so far developers have more success selling a 99 cents app on the Appstore than selling a $5 app on the Market. Take a look at this post from a renowned Game Developer talking about his experience about porting a hit game on the Appstore to the Android Market
Bottom line is that it all comes down to the Apps more than the hardware itself (we know that phones like the Samsung Galaxy S2 beats the crap out of an iPhone 4 and basically anything else), but all that powerful hardware, dual core processors and beefy GPUs can't do much if quality Apps are not there to take advantage of it, and so far Apple has done a better job in creating a suitable environment for developers at all levels: Programming, Marketing, Billing and Post-Sales Support.
When it comes to consumers (us) I definetely prefer the android cause i'm not willing to pay a sh1tload of money to buy a marketing bloat product which targets to rip off the ignorant gudget fashion victums. I want to be able to have a smartphone for 200 euros and to be able to customize it and use it the way I want and not the way they want.
And I don't want to hear a thing about better games etc etc cause if I want games i'll go and buy a psp and the total amount of money for low/mid-end android + psp will still be conciderably lower than an apple icrap
I will write my opinion, but everybody has an unique opinion so it may not matter.
As stated above, iOs and the hardware of the iPhone are one, they are designed and built as an entity. The result is the most powerful phone. Apart from the antenna problem the iphone had, the phone is perfect. And it will still be. The single-core iPhone 4 runs as smooth as dual-core android phones. Because android phones took everything that was good in linux, but also what is bad.
Android is for the guys that like customization, playing with their devices. You will never have to jailbreak an iPhone, as it's os is godlike anyway. The nasty part is that most of appstore games cost $ and some people may not be so willing to pay for every app they have.
Apart from the price, ioS is better than android, and i consider that anyone who disagrees is just sad he can't afford an iphone.That doesn't mean android is not good, because it is excellent, but still not quite at the apple's product level. Peace
Well I have also tried iOS, I own an iPod Touch 2G (MC, so it's the newer iteration). Sure, there are quality games by Gameloft & co. on the AppStore which also run alright on the iPod, but on 4.2 it gets really slow if you have any other tweaks on it, or if you activated multitasking and wallpapers.
What would definitely improve the Android experience is Gameloft getting their head out of their @ss and port their great games to lower-end devices as well. I really can't see what's the problem with minimum requirements for CPU and RAM if they really think 320x480 games would confuse customers, due to it being the most popular Android low-end resolution.
Other than that, Android is better than iOS simply because it allows you to do more stuff without hacks. First and foremost, the ability to use the phone as a mass storage device (Google should allow mass storage without additional drivers, it would be useful in certain situations, such as at school, where computers are usually blocked from installing drivers ).
@vador9: Sorry mate, but you're just as much of a d*ck as the other Apple fans. I can afford an iPhone, but that doesn't mean I WANT to spend that much money. Partly because the only reason for that price is the glass in it.
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Well I have also tried iOS, I own an iPod Touch 2G (MC, so it's the newer iteration). Sure, there are quality games by Gameloft & co. on the AppStore which also run alright on the iPod, but on 4.2 it gets really slow if you have any other tweaks on it, or if you activated multitasking and wallpapers.
What would definitely improve the Android experience is Gameloft getting their head out of their @ss and port their great games to lower-end devices as well. I really can't see what's the problem with minimum requirements for CPU and RAM if they really think 320x480 games would confuse customers, due to it being the most popular Android low-end resolution.
Other than that, Android is better than iOS simply because it allows you to do more stuff without hacks. First and foremost, the ability to use the phone as a mass storage device (Google should allow mass storage without additional drivers, it would be useful in certain situations, such as at school, where computers are usually blocked from installing drivers ).
@vador9: Sorry mate, but you're just as much of a d*ck as the other Apple fans. I can afford an iPhone, but that doesn't mean I WANT to spend that much money. Partly because the only reason for that price is the glass in it.
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You can actually do Mass Storage without the drivers.
And please, do not insult any other forum members. Whatever his opinion may be, its his, it should be respected. Its only a sharing of opinion, not a war.
Android has a great user interface, its highly customisable, it offers whatever someone may want. It's just that rare are the devices which really makes android look so good.
To explain this, I'll take the example of our fabulous O1. Forget about the pricing, let's just analyse the phone in itself: a nice phone, with great features, and a wonderful OS. The OS can do pretty much everything. Now where is the problem? LG, LG is the problem. I agree we paid for a low end phone, but that doesnt mean it should contain ****ty bugs, like the screen lag for example. Even with gingerbread out, it still has not been solved.
Its often the device which holds many a problems, not the OS. This is where iOS has an advantage, it's been used only on a couple of devices, and both the devices and the OS are manufactured by the same company. This causes a great optimisation. For example again, on any iOS device you may not be able to send a file via bluetooth properly (limited by the OS), but you have a smooth touchscreen with no lag at all and you almost never have an error popping up now and then (from the manufacturer).
Moreover, when we say "Appstore offers a larger range of quality apps than that of Android Market", its not just about games. Often basic apps are of much lower quality on the Market, e.g. compare the Facebook app on both platform, and you'll see that the Android version is weak.
Overall:
Android wins when it comes to customisation and performance (provided you have a good device), and iOS has an upper hand when it comes to best user experience and high quality apps
( ) iPhone
( ) iPad
( ) iPad 2
( ) iPod Touch
(✔) iDon't have money
(Certainly not for overpriced hype from a vendor whose customer attitude is way worse than Microsoft's )
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You can? Please enlighten me, I thought it really needed the LG Android drivers for that.
Also, he insulted us first, by implying we all are too poor to get iPhones and that's why we're jealous and say iOS is worse.
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I couldn't help but realize that Android could never get something as detailed as Infinity Blade, but is there hope? And what handset could handle such graphics?
Here is the trailer/article of Infinity Blade:
http://www.redmondpie.com/epic-game...for-iphone-4-is-mind-blowingly-awesome-video/
Well the Samsung Galaxy S has a more powerful GPU than the iPhone 4 (SGX540 vs iPhone's SGX535). So theoretically better games can be made for Android.
But with Android being so widespread the high end games won't run on all Android phones. For example, my old HTC Hero doens't have OpenGL 2.0 support and sucks at all types of gaming.
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And what handset could handle such graphics?
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The main problem isnt the hardware, android has the hardware to support most iOS games (excluding the first few models) but we're lacking the developer support. One day they might realise and then start android development, and then we'd have the definitively winning devices
Well both ID with their RAGE mobile engine have said they are using it for android development and EPIC has shown their unreal engine running on android...both on tablet and phone...its a matter of time now
the short answer... no at the moment.
Despite the fact I loathe apple, one thing I have to give to them is that their graphic engine for 3d games is much more superior than any android on the market.
Just compare playing Hero of Sparta on a SGS(which I own) as opposed to the Ipod touch. You can really feel the lag on the android.
However considering the fact that Sony annouced the PSP android phone, which is scheduled for next year, I am sure it is a issue that would be addressed by next year,
Apple has all good games, android do but not that much. I hope next year more developers will be porting games to android. I really would like to have a tap tap revenge on my vibrant.
I also think its quite difficult to develop games on the android due to the large range of resolutions and styles of each android phone. its a lot easier to develop a game if its based on a single type of phone with a single resolution - like the iphone is.
You guys are right. Perhaps is a matter of time, once they some how manage the fragmentation, like creating a gaming classification for handset manufacturers to encourage developers to make apps to that set class.
Hmmmm,
They should require a "minimum specification" phone for more advanced games (i.e >=1Ghz, >=Adreno 205/SGX535, <=512Mb ram, < 800*600 pixels screen, etc).
No one would expect a game like Crysis, etc to run on an Atom CPU? Why should it be any different on mobile phones?
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I also think its quite difficult to develop games on the android due to the large range of resolutions and styles of each android phone. its a lot easier to develop a game if its based on a single type of phone with a single resolution - like the iphone is.
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iphone DO NOT HAVE Standard resolution any more
Iphone 4: Retina Display 640X960
Iphone 1/2/3: HVGA 320X480
and almost all android games can now run on QVGA/HVGA/WVGA without problems
it's just a developer thing...
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iphone DO NOT HAVE Standard resolution
Iphone 4: Retina Display 640X960
Iphone 1/2/3: HVGA 320X480
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This is exactly 2x size of iP3. Also the screen in iP4 from the API is handled the same as iP3 (so the resolution is treated as 320x480) but on iP4 we can have half-pixels, thus we can display a small dot in the position 100.5 that has size of 0.5 pixel. So this is exactly the same screen from developer's point of view.
The problem is money. If there was infinity blade for android people will file-share instantly. Iphone there are jailbreakers , but most of iphone population doesnt mind paying for the game.
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The problem is money. If there was infinity blade for android people will file-share instantly. Iphone there are jailbreakers , but most of iphone population doesnt mind paying for the game.
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That's a really bad blanket statement. I think you missed the recent article that said the developer of Pocket Legends made more money on Android than iOS.
http://phandroid.com/2011/03/08/pocket-legends-developer-makes-more-money-on-android-than-on-ios/
RE the trailer:
The video was 98% renders from the PC and the other 3 seconds was from a phone, and it looked just as good as the best Android games.
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The problem is money. If there was infinity blade for android people will file-share instantly. Iphone there are jailbreakers , but most of iphone population doesnt mind paying for the game.
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Um... you never heard of Installous??? It's the one and only best iPhone black market app that provides the most convenient way of downloading pirated apps, where as for Android you need to rely on warez sites, then transferring them onto your device and then browse for it to install.
So technically the ratio of piracy on iOS is much much greater than Android. I haven't met a single person where I live that doesn't have Installous.
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Um... you never heard of Installous??? It's the one and only best iPhone black market app that provides the most convenient way of downloading pirated apps, where as for Android you need to rely on warez sites, then transferring them onto your device and then browse for it to install.
So technically the ratio of piracy on iOS is much much greater than Android. I haven't met a single person where I live that doesn't have Installous.
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I have a few friends with iPhones that pirate apps, and none of my friends with androids do. Also when it comes down to it iOS or Android, the majority of users aren't pirating apps.
You need to Jailbreak to use installous. You don't need root to install warez. Might affect your ratios...
Before i Jailbroke all my friends iDevices and showed them installous I didn't know anyone apart from myself that used installous. Cant really judge this just by the ppl around you.
All I can be sure of is what i know, and i know my inexperienced mind was much happier to install warez on my unrooted hero than it was to jailbreak my iPod touch.
It's really not safe to pirate apps on android. I remember one guy here reported that his phone got a virus because of installing pirated apps. That's why I don't think about pirating apps, and all the apps I need are free. :-D
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Its most definetly possible, infinity blade only looks good because they use normal mapping and other tricks to give a "hi-res" model look, the problem was there wasnt really any android game engines that easily support those features, and its only supported on open gls 2.0.
Unity3d for android has come out afew months ago for the public and it supports all the fancey extras to get that graphically edge, same with unreal 3 engine, dungeon defenders was done in that and it looks pretty damn good, but i dont know when the android version of U3 will be released.
Im currently developing a game in unity3d and im blown away with current tests to how powerful these devices actually are.
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Keep in mind infinity blade is a pretty crap game, swipe swipe swipe, repeat,
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That's a really bad blanket statement. I think you missed the recent article that said the developer of Pocket Legends made more money on Android than iOS.
http://phandroid.com/2011/03/08/pocket-legends-developer-makes-more-money-on-android-than-on-ios/
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The video was 98% renders from the PC and the other 3 seconds was from a phone, and it looked just as good as the best Android games.
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Did you read the whole articule before saying thats a bad statement. The articule tells you its an exception rather than the rule.
Look its very simple to understand. Developers will go where they will make the most money. Sure iphone has jailbreakers which I stated in my 1st post. But Android has easy file-sharing access. No developer will bust his a$$ just to make $100 off a game that takes him 6 months to make.
File-sharing is easy on android just like windows mobile 6,6.1, and 6.5 . Unless developers can make money the way they do in the iphone market , they will not make the games for Android. This is not opinion but plain real life facts.
https://plus.google.com/10083827609...aJRGS#100838276097451809262/posts/VDkV9XaJRGS
Any dev's or knowledgeable people want to take a crack at this? Is it based in fact, fiction, or irrelevant?
IDK, some things made since and some didnt. The whole writup seemed to be based on iOs vs. Android on scrolling. If you break down what iOs is, its an app launcher. Android is a home screen with live widgets and information. A true comparison would be Androids app page vs. iOs since both would be app launchers.
I never understood why people try and compare apples to oranges... or in this case, an app launcher to a 5 page home screen with tons of live information on it.
I think the guy was pretty clear on identifying bias and also gaugeing how factual his claimes are. I believe him and am confident that the corrections have made it Accurate.
The last post is true. Apple has locked down and simplified their os in the sake of smoothness. Where android has opted to provide a mors content rich experiance.
But at the same time hardware fragmentation is huge, ik he says that no matter how powerful the phones get this is a limitatikn, there is a huge problem with the fact that... Some procs. Support neon and other optimizations while ofhers don't. More often than not, app devs write their apps for the least powerful in an attempt to capture everyone, in the end, the most powerful loose out on the true potential of their device.
Look at push for example, most apps that i see still have bruit force check every 5 min type notifications even though android now has push. this is getting fixed, but slowly.
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I think the biggest problem android faces is the carriers. Buy an iPhone and there is zero carrier crap installed. Buy android and bloaty mcfatty land.
Thanks to xda development we can purge this crap (revs you rock!), but for the vast majority this is akin to voodoo and they would never attempt it.
As such android gets a bad rap. If the carriers would just be content with having their names on the phone and nothing else I posit that there would be globally better view of android. Just my two cents.
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I think the biggest problem android faces is the carriers. Buy an iPhone and there is zero carrier crap installed. Buy android and bloaty mcfatty land.
Thanks to xda development we can purge this crap (revs you rock!), but for the vast majority this is akin to voodoo and they would never attempt it.
As such android gets a bad rap. If the carriers would just be content with having their names on the phone and nothing else I posit that there would be globally better view of android. Just my two cents.
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I thought it was just the United States carriers that did this?
But, as android is an open model it opens up possibilities for carriers to customize the devices as they wish at little to no cost, also, allowing them to install apps to earn sidestreamed revenue.
I hate the carrier branding on my phone. I really really wish there was a way to get the AT&T logo off my phone.
The only place I'd allow it is the sim card.
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I hate the carrier branding on my phone. I really really wish there was a way to get the AT&T logo off my phone.
The only place I'd allow it is the sim card.
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That's what you and I and many others in US pay for a subsidized phone.
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But my unsubsidized Galaxy Tab 10.1 wi-fi is still laggy as hell. It's not the fault of carrier bloatware. Android OS is the one to blame. My WP7 phones runing a single core 1GHz Sanpdragon is much more smoother than any Android phones I owned, including the GS2.
No lag problems with my 10.1...
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I think the biggest problem android faces is the carriers. Buy an iPhone and there is zero carrier crap installed. Buy android and bloaty mcfatty land.
Thanks to xda development we can purge this crap (revs you rock!), but for the vast majority this is akin to voodoo and they would never attempt it.
As such android gets a bad rap. If the carriers would just be content with having their names on the phone and nothing else I posit that there would be globally better view of android. Just my two cents.
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Bingo! This is exactly what I have thought for years. Buy an unlocked Nexus S if you doubt this at all and you'll see a different Android. Or, root your phone, flash a vanilla rom and install something like ADWLauncher EX and set it to "fast". Once all the crap and skin is wiped, my current GS2 switches tasks and pages so fast that sometimes I can't even see it happen. I literally burned my hand the other day on my phone.
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Bingo! This is exactly what I have thought for years. Buy an unlocked Nexus S if you doubt this at all and you'll see a different Android. Or, root your phone, flash a vanilla rom and install something like ADWLauncher EX and set it to "fast". Once all the crap and skin is wiped, my current GS2 switches tasks and pages so fast that sometimes I can't even see it happen. I literally burned my hand the other day on my phone.
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What I really can't get my head around is how AT&T can think that people want their ****ty apps. They are an embarrassment.
I'm no expert, but I think that some of the apps that are on our phones out-of-box are there so that the price of the phone can be driven shown a bit more. It makes sense that AT&T would have agreements with the app makers to get money for including their app. Maybe they use that revenue to offset the overhead of distributing the device and pass that savings along to their customers.
I'm certainly not defending what they do, but just saying that could be a reason why some of this crapware is pre-installed.
Another way to look at it would be that many of the apps cost money to use. They will enroll you in some service you don't need (AT&T Nav, Live TV, etc.). Then they can steal from us by placing these little services onto our plan to be billed monthly. I have worked in customer care for one of "the big four" carriers and they would train us to employ similar tactics to trick existing customers into buying stuff. They're really like fat leaches attached to the inside of our wallets.
I have a focus and a gs2. Yes wp7 scrolls the home screen, notice I say screen since there is only one, smooth as silk. The animations are also very smooth but way too much and slowwww. Where you see the difference is in apps. Hell rebooting my focus takes forever. The engadget app and lazy tube app on wp7 really make the phone stutter and freeze. I have iPhones, winphones and androids and in my experience the gs2 is by far the fastest phone i own by a large margin. I still love the iPhone and winphone btw. The winphone is a first Gen device so it's performance is damned impressive. The animations and how slow it scrolls webpages/long lists annoy me. In android if you flick down a list real fast it goes like lightning, on the winphone it has a governor of sorts and I find myslef constantly trying to get it to scroll faster.
I know it sounds like I'm crapping on the winphone but that's not the case. It really is a cool os handbills recommend trying it out. I got a used focus for next to nothing.
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Again, people are comparing apples to oranges... an app launcher (or in WinMo case, an app launcher with really large app links) to a multi-page homescreen with live information.
Try this, use the App launcher in Android and scroll back and fourth, up and down and now compare it to iOs or WinMo. YA, NOW THEY SCROLL THE SAME!!!
If you feel that your home screen is laggy, then either get a new launcher, or dont put any widgets/icons/shorcuts/pictures/ANYTHING on your home screen.
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But my unsubsidized Galaxy Tab 10.1 wi-fi is still laggy as hell. It's not the fault of carrier bloatware. Android OS is the one to blame. My WP7 phones runing a single core 1GHz Sanpdragon is much more smoother than any Android phones I owned, including the GS2.
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You shouldve exchanged that GS2. I guarantee it would/should kick wp7 in its ass in terms of performance.
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You shouldve exchanged that GS2. I guarantee it would/should kick wp7 in its ass in terms of performance.
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No you can't. Obviously you don't own a WP7. All Android phones I handled (BTW, my co-worker has another GS2, same deal) are no where near the smoothness of year old (with two year old single core Snapdragon) Samsung Focus in terms of home screen smoothness. When it comes to lag and stutters, I'm writing it off as the necessary evil I have to deal with if I'm going to use any Android devices. Too those who deny it, you need to go out and play with other platforms like WP7 or iPhone to understand what is lag.
I like Android. Thus I'm on my second Android Phone and even own an Android tablet. But to deny the obvious and inherent flaw in the OS is either ignorant or pure fanboyism.
Remember, I'm purely talking about home screen. When it comes to app, a lot of other factors come into play and CPU speed does make a difference. Home screen is where we spent most time and most complaint about lag is about.
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No you can't. Obviously you don't own a WP7. All Android phones I handled (BTW, my co-worker has another GS2, same deal) are no where near the smoothness of year old (with two year old single core Snapdragon) Samsung Focus in terms of home screen smoothness. When it comes to lag and stutters, I'm writing it off as the necessary evil I have to deal with if I'm going to use any Android devices. Too those who deny it, you need to go out and play with other platforms like WP7 or iPhone to understand what is lag.
I like Android. Thus I'm on my second Android Phone and even own an Android tablet. But to deny the obvious and inherent flaw in the OS is either ignorant or pure fanboyism.
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Opening apps in WP7 has a considerable delay too. The WP7 homescreen is nothing, but a start menu. The live tile functionality really isn't there yet.
Yes, app loading is slow on first version of WP7 but it has greatly improved since then. What's the point of a great home screen when it lags like hell? GS2 is much better than my Captivate as well as my GTab 10.1. But I can still feel some slight lagness. My GTab 10.1 is almost unusable until 3.2 ROM released. Android's only saving grace right now is the raw processing power increase of the new phones that hides these inherent flaws in the OS. Google, or its partners, still has a long way to go to improve the UX of Android OS.
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Android wins again
It is largely supported, customizable and fairly easy affordable compared to the two other large smart phone operating systems available
open source, lots of customization. fast. lots of variations.
Android supports powerful Handsets.
Android can run dirt3 on OnLive app on the market and other xbox games
OMG. Counter Strike On Android! http://cs-portable.net/
the best
For me android is the best software that is ever made!!! its fast nice very customizable...
I agree. But I'm surprised more people aren't afraid of android, and google especially. They have too much power, and they're getting much more with this new google market. One day, everything we do will go through them.
Nothing is free.
lots of customization rom , open source can get or create many apps , and more free apps !!
Also on android its easy to get paid apps for free (i cant tell you how to get them because there everywhere).
Download onlive if you have a fast connection and try out dirt 3 or battlefield three. I advise you have a fast handset
OMG. Counter Strike On Android! http://cs-portable.net/
I love android. I had an iPhone and its so boring.. and I feel like I'm watched
Android:
Very powerful
Open source
Highly customizable
Custom Roms, OS's
Overclocking
and it's just awesome
Customizations, open source, and like the way it's set up.
On a side note, I find it fascinating that most people that are touting the open source aspects of android are using windows or mac on their home pc. Android is afterall linux based.
Wider selection of hardware, and better bang for your buck.
Greater customizability.
Compared to iOS, user interface always ahead of the curve.
But the tradeoffs are significant too, let's not forget:
Too little product control on Google's part results in often bad or worse stock ROMs.
Too little standardization of hardware means bugs, glitches, and app compatibility issues galore.
Because of the above issue, app developers often only stick with iOS and never make Android ports of their products. (Probably most significant with games.)
ROM switching is not nearly as easy as it could be, and this is of most practical importance for the new user for whom it may be an intimidating and laborious process.
Because of the above issues, I do not begrudge iPhone users of their choice, despite the jacked up price, the fad-ness of the device, and the degree to which it's locked down.
For many people, the capabilities of stock iOS straight out of the sleek, stylish box provide basically all they need, and for these people dealing with the headaches of Android may not be worth it.
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On a side note, I find it fascinating that most people that are touting the open source aspects of android are using windows or mac on their home pc. Android is afterall linux based.
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I use my PC as my primary gaming platform. I could use a virtual machine, though plenty of games probably just would never work, in which case I'd have to use a dual boot and thus be using Windows anyway.
I would guess that's a common and reasonable excuse on here.
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I love android. I had an iPhone and its so boring.. and I feel like I'm watched
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Now THAT is irony.
Agreed.. it keeps getting better.. lol
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Very bored for IP, Lov Android
DPMAce said:
I agree. But I'm surprised more people aren't afraid of android, and google especially. They have too much power, and they're getting much more with this new google market. One day, everything we do will go through them.
Nothing is free.
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LOL. Colorado government is switching from hundreds of outlook servers to google servers for emails and cloud storage/services. The takeover continues...
Anyhoo, I like Android for its general functionality of the OS and ease of access to toggles, running apps, and true multitasking. I recently purchased an iPhone 4S and while its a great device and very very customizable, I have come to the conclusion that navigating through Android just makes more sense. In addition, the lack of true multitasking on the iPhone is ridiculous. If I want to upload pictures to SugarSync, it will only do so while the app is in the foreground; thus, to upload 150 ~2.5 mb pics, I have to simply start the process and leave the phone alone til it finishes. Kinda silly.
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I think the drawbacks outweigh the benefits.
Android is #1
My main reason is because all of the emulators! i love having NES SNES GBC GBA N64 PS1 ATARTI SEGA GG, MASTER SYSTEM AND GENESIS. i have all of my favorite games, mario sonic zelda spyro dragon ballz z... its amazing you never get bored
Simple Android it's a future because it's open source
Dear Everyone,
I've just wondered that why people are getting an iPhone, when there is the best of all Android? For example, I've adviced someone to get themselves a Samsung Galaxy S2. But ended up getting an iPhone 4S! I know that Android is way better than iOS, because of;
Here are some reasons;
1) I have a Sony Ericsson Xperia X8 and an Apple iPhone 3G S
2) My cousin said that the iPhone is a disease (he has a Samsung Galaxy S2 and an iPhone 3G (not the 3G S))
3) T3 Awarded Phones (from 2009) are all Android.
P.S: you can share your opinions and ideas and etc.
If someone buys an iPhone, it doesn't necessarily mean that they hate Android. Maybe they just prefer the looks of the iPhone.
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If someone buys an iPhone, it doesn't necessarily mean that they hate Android. Maybe they just prefer the looks of the iPhone.
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The only thing because i like ios is that there are a lot more social media apps and the interfaces of the apps are better.
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Several People buy an iPhone because
-It has that User Friendly UI (User friendliness make me angry LoL)
-Apple got known first in the smart phone industry. Android was second (I think?)
-Some People like the iPhone's look )
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It's the same thing as asking why people prefer apple computers over pc. People are different, what suits for other is not necessary good for everyone.
I think the whole industry needs competition so that we, as consumers, can always get better and better products. That's why it's good thing to see people buying both android and iOS phones.
I think not everybody wants a phone, which is compicated, because you can change everything.
Many people choose a phone, because of the looks and the fact, that there is only one way, to do a specific task (it doesn't even have to be the best way - but one way)
And the iphone has great hardware.
I personally wanted a phone, where I am in control, so I chose Android
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It's the same thing as asking why people prefer apple computers over pc. People are different, what suits for other is not necessary good for everyone.
I think the whole industry needs competition so that we, as consumers, can always get better and better products. That's why it's good thing to see people buying both android and iOS phones.
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The funny thing is, in the late 80s and 90s and even into the 2000s Apple advertised themselves as the alternative to the mainstream boring beige cased PC. Nowadays the iPhone is likely the most recognizable smartphone and about as mainstream as you get. The vast selection of Android phones is the alternative.
Android needs Apple and Apple needs Android, competition provides a better and less expensive product for the consumer. Now if only Apple would play along instead of suing everyone that poses a threat.
Hello, i have used both, and i bear no grudge to either Android or Apple. I generally laugh everytime i read forums sections on articles regarding phone-tests on Android or iPhone. The flaming that Fanbois and Android lovers give eachother.. LOL they have no clue.
iPhone and Android both have their pro and cons. Neither is perfect.
Why i pick Android:
- OPEN SOURCE
- The fun of flashing Roms.
- Good selection of ROMS and phones.
- Utilities on Market are better than Appstore on Apple
Why i wouldn´t choose Android:
- Performance issues and bugs.
- Touch screen is not the best.
- Malware in market apps.
- Some apps sucks on Android that is way better on IOS
- Typing is not the best. Inaccurate at times.
- Flimsy build on many models.
Why i would choose iPhone:
- Lovely and solid built. The glass material on iPhone pisses over Corning Gorilla Glass in my opinion.
- IOS is very flawless in action. little bugs and demands less CPU to run.
- Great selection of games, iPhone runs them better than Android.
- Jailbreaking (opens up a better world on a otherwise very boring OS)
- Simplicity in use.
- Typing on iPhone is much more accurate on IOS than Android, that is because screen on iPhone is closer to your thumb than most Androids.
- Drag & Drop to phone
- Many smarter and well thought features in IOS.
Why i won´t choose iPhone / IOS:
- The build is just solid.
- Closed source (hooray Jailbreaking)
- Very very dull phone when not Jailbroken
- Utilities apps kinda sucks
- Outdated size, 3.5" screen is way to small today (bring on iPhone 5)
- iTunes and Syncing pretty much sucks.
- Everybody owns an iPhone..
First of all, I believe people choose the iphone over android because of brand name. More people are more familiar with Apple's iphone brand than Google's Android devices. Because of that, they choose to go with the brand they're most familiar with. Sort of like those preppy people whp always wear clothes from differing brands like Hollister, Aeropostle, American Eagle, etc.
Second is because Apple supports their older devices more frequently than Google and the other device manufacturers.
Third is because many people are technologically challenged and don't know what to do on their phone. For that, Apple's iphone definitely takes the cake in ease of use. Plus little kids can learn how to use the iphone quickly compared to using an android.
Fourth is apps because Apple has a LOT of apps (more than Android).
Fifth is probably due to looks because the iphone looks premium and most android devices usually don't look premium despite the price.
Finally, to end this IMO explanation, Apple generally has a fluid UI, which rarely lags and even games feel EXTREMELY fluid (in my experience with a friend's iphone). Android may be getting better, but it still lags behind a little more noticeably.
That's pretty much how I would see why people go for the iphone over Android.
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Iphone is a popular trend..
And the mass majority of people don't enjoy tinkering with things to make them perfect. They want something easy to use and won't stop being supported by apple. Apple's entire concept is easy to use if the consumer is willing to give up control.
There are so many different versions of android and the main android will be old in two months. It is impossible to have the latest thing in the Android Market.
I am using a two years old Samsung but it runs like a champ on the rom and kernel. Stock would have killed me by now how slow it is. Not everyone wants to spend the time figuring things out.
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In my experience with numerous tablets, and phones, my iPhone JUST WORKS. I like the itunes syncing concept, and the phone can always be relied on. My androids though....poor battery life with custom ROM's and kernels. Sometimes there isn't a root. (like the vizio vtab1008). With iPhone, you know that there are millions like you, and who are being taken care of by the few and the proud devs that always bring on the jailbreaks. Sure, android gives me so much more power. Like a strong russian woman! A very smart russian woman...and iPhone is like the all american babe. She looks good, but isn't as strong. When it comes to apps, iPhone has it DOWN. If you want a long lasting phone with amzing build quality, that JUST WORKS, and nothing more, then get an iPhone. If you want more power, and customization, then GO ANDROID!!!!!
I prefer android tweaks/mods/roms way more than IOS tweaks. Let me say this....the day that iPhone get sd card and an onboard recovery image, with open source IOS....then good bye Android lol.
Personally, I enjoy Android much more. +1 for android.
I've seen people who believe ios is the best, and the rest is nothing, and I was like, what?
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Sindroid said:
Why i won´t choose iPhone / IOS:
- The build is just solid.
- Closed source (hooray Jailbreaking)
- Very very dull phone when not Jailbroken
- Utilities apps kinda sucks
- Outdated size, 3.5" screen is way to small today (bring on iPhone 5)
- iTunes and Syncing pretty much sucks.
- Everybody owns an iPhone..
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You can also add that iPhone is easily smashable.
Check this link: iPhone 4S vs. Samsung Galaxy S2 Drop Test
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elKxgsrJFhw
This is like asking why do vegetarians eat veggies when there is good meat????
Dumb question
and clutters thread..
Mods should close
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This is like asking why do vegetarians eat veggies when there is good meat????
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That does pretty much sum this thread up.
It's had a few days to gain some opinions, and now it's time to end it.
Thread closed.
Why is it more apps are being developed for iOS and not android?? I personally think this sucks considering phones with android are dominating the smartphone market e.g android currently runs on Samsung phones, HTC phones, LG phones, Motorola phones, ZTE phones, Huawei phones as well as tablets such as Acer, Nexus 7, Galaxy Tab, HP Touchpad etc. I just get the feeling android is being left out. IOS runs on the iPhone and iPad and that's it....doesn't make sense to me.
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Agreed. Fortunately I have all the apps that I need
Its because if you make a app on iOS it only has to really work on 2 or 3 devices which makes testing and making bug free much easier.
With android there are so many devices it can be hard to debug across all device and screen sizes etc etc.
For 'simpler' apps its not a issue but with bigger more complexed apps it can be a bigger issue and thus far more work for the dev
Apparently over 40% of IOS Apps have never even been downloaded once so I think the word Shovelware certainly applies.
Its still the largest single device out there, one phone and one tablet. I imagine it makes dev work easier, sort of like building a complex website that only has to work in one browser. Plus the way the media talks about the iPhone all the time, many probably think it has a huge majority of the market share.
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Plus the way the media talks about the iPhone all the time, many probably think it has a huge majority of the market share.
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Yeah, that's right. In fact, I never seen an Google commercial on TV, and many people don't know about Android. However, if you ask them "Do you know the iPhone/iPad?" surely the answer will be "yes... it's cool"
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Yeah, that's right. In fact, I never seen an Google commercial on TV, and many people don't know about Android. However, if you ask them "Do you know the iPhone/iPad?" surely the answer will be "yes... it's cool"
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There are some Nexus 7 commercials on these days, and back before Verizon got the iPhone they ran quite a few commercials with the OG Droid and Droid X. The iPhone is in nearly every new movie when a cell phone is shown. Its ironic because for years Apple embraced being different than the mainstream majority of whatever product they were trying to sell. Now the iPad/iPhone is about as mainstream as you can get since its everywhere.
What about the android shop in California....that must be the only store dedicated to an OS lol
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Once Google opens a nexus store in every big city in the world and has more commercials, sues the heck out of everybody and mocks Apple then they will be more popular. Oh yea there are ups and down on both platforms. Apple charges 99 bucks a year to develop apps and publish them while android only charges 25 bucks. But like said above there are too many androids from 3.5 inch 800 megahertz processors to giant 4.8 inch phones with a quad core cpu. The galaxy note is 5.3" GEEZUS
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apple smooth and no laggy
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apple smooth and no laggy
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And JellyBean isn't?
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Iphones and iPads are just overpriced ****e imo! They all look and feel the same, layout has been the same since day 1, their not very attractive, specs are a joke (4s is EXACTLY the same as the 4 just added a dual core 800mhz CPU and a joke piece of software called siri, which doesn't work half the time) and they have a cheek to charge £599 for a beefed up version of the iPhone 4!!! You must be kidding right??
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I just picked up a Galaxy S3 and it cost roughly the same as a new iphone. Apple appeals to a broad consumer base as any idiot can figure it out, and most people only use their phones to talk, text, facebook, angry birds, etc anyway. They're usually stable, and just work. Android, however, claims the cake because it doesn't lock you into any single hardware manufacturer, and has the open-source backing. It just so happens that since the tv is lovestruck by apple products, most people clamor to apple cause they saw it on tv, and since apple has the outspoken user base it does (aka fanboys), it popularly perceived that ios is the most popular platform. And with that, most entrepreneurs are going to go with the platform they feel their products will get the most exposure on, which leads to higher revenue. Econ 101
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I just picked up a Galaxy S3 and it cost roughly the same as a new iphone. Apple appeals to a broad consumer base as any idiot can figure it out, and most people only use their phones to talk, text, facebook, angry birds, etc anyway. They're usually stable, and just work. Android, however, claims the cake because it doesn't lock you into any single hardware manufacturer, and has the open-source backing. It just so happens that since the tv is lovestruck by apple products, most people clamor to apple cause they saw it on tv, and since apple has the outspoken user base it does (aka fanboys), it popularly perceived that ios is the most popular platform. And with that, most entrepreneurs are going to go with the platform they feel their products will get the most exposure on, which leads to higher revenue. Econ 101
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I think you pretty much nailed it. Android being based on linux, and an 'open' system, alot of linux users/hackers use it, and there for do not want to pay for software, as with their computer operating systems. Now dont get me wrong, some people do pay for software, but if you can find a free alternative, or even better just create your own, why would you pay for it ?
With Apple products, basicly morons are buying it because they are told to, they think it is cool, all thier dumb ass friends have them, and so any software that is needed for it, they will pay through the nose for, just like their devices they have to upgrade before they have finished paying off the last one.
Forgive my extreme dis-like for Apple products. I just really do not like them.
It was long before the iPhone that I stayed away from Apple products. Their computers were and still are way overpriced when compared to the same specs on a Windows PC. Or you can build your own and save even more money. iPods are overpriced and you are forced to use iTunes. I've used Creative and Sandisk players that don't require any software as they were USB mass storage devices. I can write a simple batch file to sync two directories, I don't need a big program like iTunes. I remember one of my friends showing off their cool new iPod shuffle years ago, the model without a screen. Meanwhile I had a Sandisk player (forget the model) that had a screen and more storage space plus it costs less. I also had (still have) my Dell Axim x50 which still is a better MP3/video player than any iPod today since it has CF and SD slots and can play nearly every format with TCPMP.
Android was the next move for me after Microsoft discontinued Windows Mobile. Its the only popular mobile OS for power users left. Its a lot more stable than WM ever was, not responding apps will force close where as on WM you would often have to restart the device.
Unless Apple does something innovative with the iPhone, I predict it is on a sinking ship. Its an outdated device/UI after 5 years with little changes. After ICS, anytime I see an iOS device it just looks so outdated. There have been hardware upgrades but today's iPhone doesn't look much different from the 2007 model. The mobile market moves fast and those who don't keep up die off, look at what happened to Windows Mobile which didn't change for years.
One Topmost reason why Apps are more developed for iOS than Android:
The high-rated, most popular and mostly downloaded apps in Android suffers PIRACY ISSUE which is not acceptable to the developers as it incurs the developers a huge loss. Although it also happens with iOS apps, but their piracy rate is not that high as Android.
Also we must be thankful to the developers that in spite of these issues, they still develop good apps for us and make Android a better OS.
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I think you pretty much nailed it. Android being based on linux, and an 'open' system, alot of linux users/hackers use it, and there for do not want to pay for software, as with their computer operating systems. Now dont get me wrong, some people do pay for software, but if you can find a free alternative, or even better just create your own, why would you pay for it ?
With Apple products, basicly morons are buying it because they are told to, they think it is cool, all thier dumb ass friends have them, and so any software that is needed for it, they will pay through the nose for, just like their devices they have to upgrade before they have finished paying off the last one.
Forgive my extreme dis-like for Apple products. I just really do not like them.
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Nah dude I feel ya. You get the same (for the most part) applications for less to nothing, and if it doesn't have the exact functionality you're looking for, you can change it yourself. Apple doesn't even give the option to sideload whereas Android allows it even for a stock unrooted user. But where we see these drawbacks, it does make iOS much more stable because it's extremely difficult for iphone users to screw it up. But you have to remember, different clientele. The one thing Apple has going for them is their brilliant (if you wanna call it that) marketing. That's the only reason they've done so well, is because they've managed to make a cult of it and exploit that fact that people are half the time so pathetic they need some product/brand to represent who they are, and Apple has provided that branding for millions of people. I do some home automation/networking projects as a hobby, and I hate my buddy's macbook cause that thing leaves crap all over my servers, even if the shares are on major lockdown. And getting them to play nicely with media, forget about it.
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It was long before the iPhone that I stayed away from Apple products. Their computers were and still are way overpriced when compared to the same specs on a Windows PC. Or you can build your own and save even more money. iPods are overpriced and you are forced to use iTunes. I've used Creative and Sandisk players that don't require any software as they were USB mass storage devices. I can write a simple batch file to sync two directories, I don't need a big program like iTunes. I remember one of my friends showing off their cool new iPod shuffle years ago, the model without a screen. Meanwhile I had a Sandisk player (forget the model) that had a screen and more storage space plus it costs less. I also had (still have) my Dell Axim x50 which still is a better MP3/video player than any iPod today since it has CF and SD slots and can play nearly every format with TCPMP.
Android was the next move for me after Microsoft discontinued Windows Mobile. Its the only popular mobile OS for power users left. Its a lot more stable than WM ever was, not responding apps will force close where as on WM you would often have to restart the device.
Unless Apple does something innovative with the iPhone, I predict it is on a sinking ship. Its an outdated device/UI after 5 years with little changes. After ICS, anytime I see an iOS device it just looks so outdated. There have been hardware upgrades but today's iPhone doesn't look much different from the 2007 model. The mobile market moves fast and those who don't keep up die off, look at what happened to Windows Mobile which didn't change for years.
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Actually you can use an ipod with rhythm box, an itunes-like media player for Linux . I don't have one, so I can't say anything on its functionality. I had a windows phone on, if I remember correctly, a motorola que or something. WORST PHONE EVER. I got from a friend, but I was rebooting a good 10 times a day cause it would lock up or something wacko. In terms of iOS's gui, all they'd have to do is keep adding gooey nonsense and if the play it off as an upgrade, the apple kids will eat it up for the next 30 years without any need for advancing the base functionality. Honestly, I'm sure karma will catch up with Apple (as it did for Microsoft) and they'll bury themselves in crap. Don't know what, I'm just being hopefull
Really because the iOS users are the dumbest and will buy pretty much any app that is developed.
I joke I joke.
But really the reason is because a lot of developers feel that all android users do is pirate apps so they can't make a profit.
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There are so many factors why apple appstore has more apps,
Firstly it has a quality control, so when your apple appstore app is approved, then its a thing to be proud of next, the payment schemes offered my apple is easier than android, and also, you just need to test on 2 or maximum three devices unlike android where you gotta test on so many devices to with so many different API versions and screen sizes.
Next , visibility of new apps is much much more on apple store compared to Play store.
And lastly, the play store's global reach is less!
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There are so many factors why apple appstore has more apps,
Firstly it has a quality control, so when your apple appstore app is approved, then its a thing to be proud of next, the payment schemes offered my apple is easier than android, and also, you just need to test on 2 or maximum three devices unlike android where you gotta test on so many devices to with so many different API versions and screen sizes.
Next , visibility of new apps is much much more on apple store compared to Play store.
And lastly, the play store's global reach is less!
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Bingo. They simplify everything for quality control that they feel provides a better user experience, and to some extent it does. While it is extremely restrictive, it still provides the masses with simplicity, of whom don't know a motherboard from a graphics card half the time. Android is more of a Wild West of sorts, allowing the users to have more control of their environment. Then again, Apple proponents are more likely to pay stupid amounts of money for close to anything so they can be one of the cool kids whereas Android folk either couldn't/didn't want to afford an iphone, or are Linux people who aren't gonna be keen on paying for software in the first place.