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So a couple days ago we found out that the HTC thunderbolt had a locked bootloader which was surprising since HTC has always been very largely supported by the community, a lot of people said it was Verizons douchbaggery. Now it appears the HTC Incredible S, the unlocked handset from HTC released in Europe also has a locked bootloader. This is extremely dissapointing.( like the droidx and atrix from moto, which still have not been cracked). The chances that this new Evo 3ds bootloader are locked, is high and frankly the only thing keeping me with HTC is the community and their support but this is a slap to the face. There hardware cpu,gpu,displays,cameras etc suck compared to Samsung or Motorola only their build quality is great. But if this new Evo is locked down I'm done with HTC!
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I think this was discussed in another thread.
Yea:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1006160
Also word on the street was the G2 was supposed to be unrootable also, that didn't last too long.
This really means nothing, because as it has been in the past, so shall it be in the future. Bootloaders are just a door that many dev's are waiting to just kick in, so saying its locked means jack. They are just waiting to break it so their legend can live on.....If this keeps you from buying it, oh well. I know for a fact there will be thousands of others who will buy it, starting with me.
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So a couple days ago we found out that the HTC thunderbolt had a locked bootloader which was surprising since HTC has always been very largely supported by the community, a lot of people said it was Verizons douchbaggery. Now it appears the HTC Incredible S, the unlocked handset from HTC released in Europe also has a locked bootloader. This is extremely dissapointing.( like the droidx and atrix from moto, which still have not been cracked). The chances that this new Evo 3ds bootloader are locked, is high and frankly the only thing keeping me with HTC is the community and their support but this is a slap to the face. There hardware cpu,gpu,displays,cameras etc suck compared to Samsung or Motorola only their build quality is great. But if this new Evo is locked down I'm done with HTC!
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Did the Evo Shift have a locked bootloader?
nope.....not at all
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Did the Evo Shift have a locked bootloader?
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tbolt aquired full s-off and perma root and can now flash unsigned...yada yada...i dont see the 3d being a problem
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Did the Evo Shift have a locked bootloader?
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Yup, the shift has the same locked bootloader and signed update images that the Evo, Incredible and every other HTC phone has. On top of that the sd card was locked out from the hboot as well.
LoveisPeace2012 said:
So a couple days ago we found out that the HTC thunderbolt had a locked bootloader which was surprising since HTC has always been very largely supported by the community, a lot of people said it was Verizons douchbaggery. Now it appears the HTC Incredible S, the unlocked handset from HTC released in Europe also has a locked bootloader. This is extremely dissapointing.( like the droidx and atrix from moto, which still have not been cracked). The chances that this new Evo 3ds bootloader are locked, is high and frankly the only thing keeping me with HTC is the community and their support but this is a slap to the face. There hardware cpu,gpu,displays,cameras etc suck compared to Samsung or Motorola only their build quality is great. But if this new Evo is locked down I'm done with HTC!
http://tinyurl.com/4apdc9j
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CPU gpu? Scorpion chip set over clocks easily to 2.0ghz. Screen? Qhd. Camera? HTC just went with new software programing and new optics for much better pictures. The evo 3d will be far from locked down and its a solid phone. Get the one year old nexus s then lol
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Honestly, I don't think it will come as locked down as the TBolt and Inc S...but even if it does, I'm still going to buy it. The TBolt fell to perma root in, what, 4 or 5 days, if that long?
With the devs we have here, even if it does come locked down, it'll be open within a week or so. I hate to see HTC doing the Moto thing, but I'm not concerned about the future of custom ROMs/Kernels on the E3D.
If you are concerned with the current state of bootloaders locked devices, check this out:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dGxKZE14VWNvd0RBbUtNMXpJbzFUZUE6MQ
Hopefully this gains steam here at XDA.
On one hand I can understand why they might do this. I mean people are still riding with their G1s despite the fact that it is beyond outdated tech. But the dev community keeps it alive and well.
Also these companies do have a responsibility to their shareholders to say well we do lock our devices down as best we can to protect the bottom dollar (basically saying we want to force people who keep up with tech to upgrade as much as possible.
On the flipside of it all, you can clearly see how the dev community has helped HTC since their WinMo days. I know we are but a small subset of their user base, but our dollars count nonetheless. And when we let what the devs are doing influence our phone purchasing power
(which I know I do because I chose an Evo over an Epic because I felt what was going on over here was just more multi faceted (sense, AOSP, blur, and other options) than what was going on with the Epic)
But these companies KNOW what we are doing to their phones just as much as these carriers know. They don't want us to remove their bloatware because that is money. But we strive to remove it anyway and they still might not care because we still pay our monthly fees.
So I take locked bootloaders with a grain of salt. Android will ALWAYS be open and there is nothing that these companies can do to stop that. Once these companies notice the miss sales and such, then they will take a less noticable stance to it all. But in the meanwhile, I expect the Evo 3D to be cracked possibly hours after it is released.
It never takes long
(sorry for the long windness, I hardly post much)
im pretty sure the evo 3d will get cracked but my friend has a droid2 and it still hasnt been cracked after this long. its his first android phone and because i cant change the kernel for him, his out of box experience with the droid2 and his first android is a horrible experience and now he wants an iphone instead.
being a tech guy, most of my friends come to me for recommendations and never will i recommend a phone to anyone with a locked bootloader. (unless its been cracked) motorola just lost alot of business, with the release of the atrix, i tell people not to get it either.
just a few days ago, my friend from at&t was going to upgrade his phone. he had the option to choose the atrix or the htc inspire. despite the atrix having much better specs, i had to tell him to go with the inspire simply because the bootloader is not locked.
JTAG
There, now it's unlocked. Are you happy? It ain't that hard.
Just a little more work from the point and click.
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JTAG
There, now it's unlocked. Are you happy? It ain't that hard.
Just a little more work from the point and click.
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You're assuming that a JTAG footprint would be available. And sure, in most cases it is. However it's easily possible to make the non-factory CPU's just ignore it.
Besides, you're talking about permanently wiring something akin to a console modchip to the phone, which would be very impractical given how small these phones are.
And even then, they can throw down updates that would cause your phone to shut down or go into some limited use mode if the jtag port is being played with.
The xbox 360 and ps3 were suppose to be un-hackable. Everything is hackable as long as it is popular long enough. I am sure 6 months after it is released it will be rooted.
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You guys are whack. When is the last time a phone came out without a locked bootloader? Even the Nexus has a locked bootloader for crying out loud.
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sand1303 said:
The xbox 360 and ps3 were suppose to be un-hackable. Everything is hackable as long as it is popular long enough. I am sure 6 months after it is released it will be rooted.
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6 months is a long time for an Android phone. So if something comes along with similar specs that's easy to unlock, you might lose dev support. Also, there's nothing that says it might get unlocked. Look at the Moto phones...
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6 months is a long time for an Android phone. So if something comes along with similar specs that's easy to unlock, you might lose dev support. Also, there's nothing that says it might get unlocked. Look at the Moto phones...
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Those motor phones were not locked... they were encrypted. That's the problem there.
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The evo 4g bootloader was unlocked?.......no sounds like some bloggers are trying drive up clicks with way over sensational observations
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unknown1205 said:
im pretty sure the evo 3d will get cracked but my friend has a droid2 and it still hasnt been cracked after this long. its his first android phone and because i cant change the kernel for him, his out of box experience with the droid2 and his first android is a horrible experience and now he wants an iphone instead.
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I was just about to buy an Evo until I read about the Evo 3D, and so I have to suffer with my Touch Slow 2 for a little while longer...
Anyway, I don't own a Droid 2, but I found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=782556
So, even the Droid 2 has fallen to the root. Hopefully, Sprint and HTC won't make it quite so hard and will continue to turn mostly a blind eye a la the Evo, but either way, the Evo 3D just looks too cool to not get.
This is an excerpt from an email conversation with HTC:
"I thank you for sending an email about unlocking the boot loader mode on the new HTC EVO 3D. I understand you would like to unlock the boot loader mode on your Android device but there has been no decision about which devices will be unlocked. I would suggest that you keep an eye on the HTC regional website at www.htc.com/US under the Home tab."
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This is an excerpt from an email conversation with HTC:
"I thank you for sending an email about unlocking the boot loader mode on the new HTC EVO 3D. I understand you would like to unlock the boot loader mode on your Android device but there has been no decision about which devices will be unlocked. I would suggest that you keep an eye on the HTC regional website at www.htc.com/US under the Home tab."
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Figures. I emailed them as well, no response back yet. When I do hear from them it will probably be a generic response like the one you received.
their ceo sent out an email saying they would unlock it. if they renig on this they are in for some trouble
lbhocky19 said:
their ceo sent out an email saying they would unlock it. if they renig on this they are in for some trouble
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Yes and i think it was posted on the HTC facebook page.
Just figured I would post to help make more noise about it. Noise seems to help make things happen sometimes. Other times it is just noise though.....
I had actually emailed asking for the SMART_IO.CRD file to help with some development work I didn't mention boot loaders or unlocking or rooting. Somewhat surprised at the response for their general support desk. lol
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their ceo sent out an email saying they would unlock it. if they renig on this they are in for some trouble
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Yep.
They have about 28 days to figure it out for me. Keep lighting up their Facebook. E-mail is good, but public exposure on places like Facebook and Twitter is the best.
They are going to F everybody over with these corporate stall tactics... I'm holding off until this ***** is unlocked.
sfasu77 said:
They are going to F everybody over with these corporate stall tactics... I'm holding off until this ***** is unlocked.
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Ditto.
And in reality, I'm leaning heavily towards the Photon or SGS2 now. The SGS2 is already unlocked, and with today's news that the Atrix was unlocked via a leaked 2.3.3 upgrade and that the official 2.3.3 upgrade will be unlocked, it sounds like the Photon will probably ship unlocked as well.
I've loved HTC, but I'm not interested in dealing with a company that's openly deceptive.
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Ditto.
And in reality, I'm leaning heavily towards the Photon or SGS2 now. The SGS2 is already unlocked, and with today's news that the Atrix was unlocked via a leaked 2.3.3 upgrade and that the official 2.3.3 upgrade will be unlocked, it sounds like the Photon will probably ship unlocked as well.
I've loved HTC, but I'm not interested in dealing with a company that's openly deceptive.
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Motorola has already said that it will not unlock the Photon.
sparhawk6 said:
Motorola has already said that it will not unlock the Photon.
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When? Moto said a while back that they were going to stop locking all future phones to my knowledge.
Edit: NM, just found it. However, that just says it won't ship unlocked, and it's a month old. If the Atrix will be unlocked with their GB update, I would be surprised if the Photon doesn't follow suit very quickly... unless it's sprint who's actually pulling the strings here.
Is it a carrier branded device. ? It'll be locked.
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Motorola has already said that it will not unlock the Photon.
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all they stated was that it wasnt unlockable/relockable, could have a xoom style bootloader for all we know.
what moto said is that they will release software that will unlock devices later in the year. As to which specific devices will get the unlock functionality, that will be the decision of the carriers.
This was one of the major reasons I said I wasn't picking up this phone on launch day. There is no guarantee this thing will ever be unlocked, regardless of what HTC said a few weeks ago. From what I gather, they never specifically stated the Evo 3D would be unlocked, just future phones. Considering the phone was already in production when they made that statement, they might not think it's worth putting the effort to unlock it at this point.
Also, I checked out the phone at my local Sprint store and wasn't impressed at all. I'll see what the SGSII or the Photon has to offer when those are released.
Keep on the assault on facebook! The second we slow down is when they decide that eventually we will forget about it and not do anything about it.
Someone with more free time than myself should make a countdown timer to 29 days after launch and feature it in a petition to return evo 3d's if htc keeps playing the waiting game.
nebenezer said:
Someone with more free time than myself should make a countdown timer to 29 days after launch and feature it in a petition to return evo 3d's if htc keeps playing the waiting game.
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i totally agree with this..
and also i agree everyone needs to keep the Assault on the facebook page.. maybe if enough ppl sit there and ***** they will do something about it.. cause this is some serious bull****.. the CEO wasnt the only one who said something about the unlocking of the bootloaders.. but there was a post from a HTC DEV that the EVO 3D would SHIP UNLOCKED!! so this bull**** with them saying "FUTURE DEVICES" is exactly that BULL****...
I WILL BE DOING A COUNTDOWN ON THEIR FACEBOOK PAGE.. SEEMS LIKE A GOOD WAY TO DO IT.. EVERYONE GETS ON FB ATLEAST ONCE A DAY SO THAT WOULD BE A GOOD WAY OF DOING IT..
hit their twitter page also.. @HTC.. i am.. looks like they more actively watch their twitter page.. been following them for days now and who ever is watching it replys to almost everyone!!. just a thought..
nebenezer said:
Someone with more free time than myself should make a countdown timer to 29 days after launch and feature it in a petition to return evo 3d's if htc keeps playing the waiting game.
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Ask and Ye shall receive.
bit.ly/HTC-UnlockOrWeWalk
As much as I want to believe that HTC is going to come though, I am cautious through past experience. Companies move SLOW. Right hands don't talk to the Left Hands, and before you know it, we're in the same club as some of the Motto people. I don't want to be in that club!
I want a device where I am FREE to choose what I may do with it, warranty or not. Free to utilize the device to its FULL capability and NOT be bogged down by bulky code or bloatware.
For the clock, I've set some parameters.
Date: Set for the earliest of the 30 Day period starting June 21st, the day users were able to start ordering the phone. You may argue that it shouldn't start till the 22nd, but I've worked retail, I've seen some of the BS Reps try to pull with 30 day technicalities. The clock goes till 9pm, the bleeding edge of the return policy for brick and mortar stores.
Time Zone: Set for Eastern as this would be the time zone in the United States to be affected first.
people need to tweet and post on the facebook page..
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people need to tweet and post on the facebook page..
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done and done.
Straight from HTC's Facebook page we have a general time line now looks like August September
How do you guys feel about it ?
HTC
Devs, we’re making lots of progress on unlocking bootloaders: Today we can confirm the HTC Sensation and HTC EVO 3D will be supported! See out note for more info:
Update on Bootloaders
Thanks so much for providing feedback, we hear your concerns. Your satisfaction is a top priority for us and we're working hard to ensure you have great experiences with our phones. We're reviewing the issue and our policy around bootloaders and will provide more information soon. Thank you for your interest, support and willingness to share your feedback. **UPDATE** We’ve listened. Check out the statement from our CEO, Peter Chou on HTC bootloaders. Click the link for more info. http://on.fb.me/iZXgkR **UPDATE 7/10** <!-- p.p1 {margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 48.0px; font: 15.0px Calibri} --> We wanted to provide an update on HTC’s progress with bringing bootloader unlocking to our newest phones. We know how excited some of you are for this capability, and we’ve put significant resources behind making this change as soon as possible. While we wish we could flip a simple switch and unlock all bootloaders across our device portfolio, this is actually a complex challenge that requires a new software build and extensive testing to deliver the best possible customer experience. We’re thrilled to announce today that software updates to support bootloader unlocking will begin rolling out in August for the global HTC Sensation, followed by the HTC Sensation 4G on T-Mobile USA and the HTC EVO 3D on Sprint. We’re in the testing phase for the unlocking capability now, and we expect it to be fully operational by early September for devices that have received the software updates. We'll continue rolling out the unlocking capability over time to other devices as part of maintenance releases and new shipments. HTC continues its commitment to unlocking bootloaders and supporting the developer community. Because of the importance of this community to us, please expect an update on this about every few weeks as we make progress toward launch. Thank you for your patience and continued support!
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NICE! People are still *****ing. How funny.
I JUST saw the post and bout sh!t
I think I will keep *****ing. Not soon enough...
They are taking time before releasing the bootloader to patch the known exploits.
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They are taking time before releasing the bootloader to patch the known exploits.
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Which makes sense, does it not? I think it does.
I'm more than happy with the phone, it is a very nice piece of hardware without without root capabilities.... Sprint's network on the other hand..............
I can play around with sense for 2 more months.
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IThe 3D is a pretty awesome phone as-is. So 2 months wont kill me. I had hoped it would be a lot sooner tho. I will still be checking here daily to see if anyone beats them to it.
At least they are actually doing it, I'm sure Sprint isn't the most excited. Props 2 them usually huge corporations could care less about stuff like this.
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IThe 3D is a pretty awesome phone as-is. So 2 months wont kill me. I had hoped it would be a lot sooner tho. I will still be checking here daily to see if anyone beats them to it.
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it will be alot sooner and it WON'T be fron HTC, I have faith in the greatness here with the devs hard at work on this.
That's great news!
Wow I really like that. However I just wanted to say this one thing. Thanks to all the DEV's working hard at the unlock. They have my respect. Plus well see with HTC. I hope the devs can steal the glory.
Yeah Forget HTC the idiots already know how to unlock it because they are the fools that locked it, Power to the DEVS!
Guy!! Finally they have released the unlocker officially...http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader/..but Flyer is not yet supported I guess..
They're never gonna unlock the Flyer.. it was for Sensation and Evo 3D only.
ikingblack said:
They're never gonna unlock the Flyer.. it was for Sensation and Evo 3D only.
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Do you enjoy spreading misinformation? How can you say something so matter of fact, when clearly you just don't know.
This unlocker is currently for Sensation and Evo 3D, however HTC has said this will become available for every device in the future, and I believe devices that were released recently.
The thing is this voids your warranty. I'd rather use unrevoked and not void my warranty.
tErbo b00st said:
Do you enjoy spreading misinformation? How can you say something so matter of fact, when clearly you just don't know.
This unlocker is currently for Sensation and Evo 3D, however HTC has said this will become available for every device in the future, and I believe devices that were released recently.
The thing is this voids your warranty. I'd rather use unrevoked and not void my warranty.
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Yeah it really is in HTC's best interest to unlock bootloaders for the devices that have been successfully rooted. If they do more people will probably try and use their method and then they will have a running tab on who unlocked. Plus with the naive people using HTC unlock they will have an out on fixing devices you messed up yourself.
tErbo b00st said:
Do you enjoy spreading misinformation? How can you say something so matter of fact, when clearly you just don't know.
This unlocker is currently for Sensation and Evo 3D, however HTC has said this will become available for every device in the future, and I believe devices that were released recently.
The thing is this voids your warranty. I'd rather use unrevoked and not void my warranty.
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My mistake. I don't know for sure, but they never announced they were going to unlock the Flyer. And how is it spreading mis information? Both of us don't know.
@ikingblack
Are you HTC? I see you post answers to that which you don't know. Fail
Hopefully this trickles out to more devices soon, although I prefer that they not know that the bootloader is unlocked as it is possible to go back to s-on and retain your warranty.
Im really on the verge of jumping ship to another phone say sensation or the sensation xe ,the reason is not that I don't like this evo 3d gsm,but there hasn't been an s-off or as much roms as the cdma version....I must admit I love this phone ,but without root and yes I ain't gonna do a HTC method (not willing to loose warrenty.),I can't enjoy to It's full potential.... So please fellow xda members,tell me what are the chances of the gsm evo 3d gonna get s- off ? If so will the gsm have as much roms as the cdma? Please give me Ur input whether I should jump ship or pray and wait ? But I really need cold hard facts or probability if i were to stay as the same ...
Thx in advance for your inputs...
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Im really on the verge of jumping ship to another phone say sensation or the sensation xe ,the reason is not that I don't like this evo 3d gsm,but there hasn't been an s-off or as much roms as the cdma version....I must admit I love this phone ,but without root and yes I ain't gonna do a HTC method (not willing to loose warrenty.),I can't enjoy to It's full potential.... So please fellow xda members,tell me what are the chances of the gsm evo 3d gonna get s- off ? If so will the gsm have as much roms as the cdma? Please give me Ur input whether I should jump ship or pray and wait ? But I really need cold hard facts or probability if i were to stay as the same ...
Thx in advance for your inputs...
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Wouldn't hold your breathe on alpharevex/unrevoked releasing s-off in place of the htc unlock method. I do associate with alpharevx/unrevoked on occasion and they are all very skilled and knowledgable.
Reasons why I don't see them releasing an s-off method to overwrite htc's unlock method:
1) HTC patched previously used exploits in their latest software version rending previously used exploits, at least for initial root access, useless
2) Requires a great deal of time and energy to exploit, reverse engineer, package together and release a new method of unlocking the device.
3) The differences between s-off and htc unlock s-on are minor. No kernel write access in standard recovery mode.
Alpharevx/unrevoked also collect your serial number and do have the ability to send this information to HTC, if they so chose. Never heard anything about them actually doing this, I'm just pointing out the obvious, both groups collect serial numbers.
4) Unrevoked was passionate their main goal was for all devices to grant the user root access if the user so wants. HTC has essentially accomplished this for this device, EVO 3D. Sure, the method is not 100% perfect, but is is incredibly better than their previously held position against.
Regarding the unlocking methods, how does the sensation differ? I'm not as familar with this device. Although the user base does seem to be quite large and their development community is not burdended with the extra 3D closed source proprietary software which has plagued the 3D community.
Hope that helps provide some information.
joeykrim said:
Wouldn't hold your breathe on alpharevex/unrevoked releasing s-off in place of the htc unlock method. I do associate with alpharevx/unrevoked on occasion and they are all very skilled and knowledgable.
Reasons why I don't see them releasing an s-off method to overwrite htc's unlock method:
1) HTC patched previously used exploits in their latest software version rending previously used exploits, at least for initial root access, useless
2) Requires a great deal of time and energy to exploit, reverse engineer, package together and release a new method of unlocking the device.
3) The differences between s-off and htc unlock s-on are minor. No kernel write access in standard recovery mode.
Alpharevx/unrevoked also collect your serial number and do have the ability to send this information to HTC, if they so chose. Never heard anything about them actually doing this, I'm just pointing out the obvious, both groups collect serial numbers.
4) Unrevoked was passionate their main goal was for all devices to grant the user root access if the user so wants. HTC has essentially accomplished this for this device, EVO 3D. Sure, the method is not 100% perfect, but is is incredibly better than their previously held position against.
Regarding the unlocking methods, how does the sensation differ? I'm not as familar with this device. Although the user base does seem to be quite large and their development community is not burdended with the extra 3D closed source proprietary software which has plagued the 3D community.
Hope that helps provide some information.
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Hey ,those facts you stated really has given me a lot of information ...
As to your last question ,the reason I rather go with the sensation is that it has s-off and likewise u said ,a large community thus more Rom development..
Now I need to decide whether to stay as a gsm evo 3s owner or jump ships ...
So if i were to stay ,is it better to wait for the ICS update by HTC then unlock the bootloader or ..might as well do it Asap??as far as i know ,HTC method voids the warrenty..
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kaysen said:
Hey ,those facts you stated really has given me a lot of information ...
As to your last question ,the reason I rather go with the sensation is that it has s-off and likewise u said ,a large community thus more Rom development..
Now I need to decide whether to stay as a gsm evo 3s owner or jump ships ...
So if i were to stay ,is it better to wait for the ICS update by HTC then unlock the bootloader or ..might as well do it Asap??as far as i know ,HTC method voids the warrenty..
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Technically all methods void the warranty, but only the HTC method is trackable by HTC and leaves either *UNLOCKED* or *RELOCKED* at the top of the bootloader.
Not sure whether or not carriers are able to track the HTC method or how informed/update to date they are. Decision for warranty work with the carrier at their service center is probably left up to the carrier.
Personally speaking, I've never had any hardware issues where I've had to have the device repaired. Returning the device to the carrier or manufacturer has never been an issue for me, although I do try and take extra care of my devices.
HTC announced official ICS updates for the EVO 3D in early 2012 according to the tweet which linked to a fb post on their fb page a week or so ago.
Hope that helps!
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Technically all methods void the warranty, but only the HTC method is trackable by HTC and leaves either *UNLOCKED* or *RELOCKED* at the top of the bootloader.
Not sure whether or not carriers are able to track the HTC method or how informed/update to date they are. Decision for warranty work with the carrier at their service center is probably left up to the carrier.
Personally speaking, I've never had any hardware issues where I've had to have the device repaired. Returning the device to the carrier or manufacturer has never been an issue for me, although I do try and take extra care of my devices.
HTC announced official ICS updates for the EVO 3D in early 2012 according to the tweet which linked to a fb post on their fb page a week or so ago.
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As far as I can remember,when I was using a HTC incredible s I got it hanged on the HTC logo ,tried every way to unbrick it ..So I decided to send to HTC for repair ,(note :I had it rooted and with revolutionary s-off),the HTC staff said it was still on warrenty...so after 3days or so ,I received my Inc s with a report saying ,"Engineer replaced the main board " Free of charge because of warrenty...and I believe that changing a main board will cost a lot $$? Am I right ?..the point is I was pretty much surprised by the fact that the device was repaired for free even though is s-off ...
So now Im in a dillema ,not sure to wait for s-off for the evo 3d gsm...I am worried if i were to brick it unintentionally,maybe I might get it repaired FOC...on another hand,going the HTC method will definatly void the warrenty cause there is a record...So ...I really don't know ...
Thx for your tips...
I hope this thread might help others in the same situation as me ..
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